Re: Need mentorship and support

2016-02-25 Thread Jochen Spieker
Himanshu Shekhar: > > Also, I would love to know about good sources to learn and practice Bash. I > followed "The Linux Command Line by William E. Shotts". ABS is my go-to reference for bash: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ And to get your program into Debian: http://mentors.debian.net/ J. --

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2016-02-25 22:46, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/02/2016, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 2/25/2016 7:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Thursday 25 February 2016 12:59:29 Siard wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:08:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > I searched

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread mudongliang
On 02/26/2016 10:53 AM, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:01:43 +1100 > "Daniel" wrote: > > > While not relevant to Debian, Pale Moon for Windows is neat. > > > > > From: H Kyu [mailto:henry.s@gmail.com] > > Sent: 26 February, 2016 7:40 AM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org;

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Adam Wilson
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 12:39:59 -0800 H Kyu wrote: > ​Hello - > > Recently, Mozilla's Firefox browser introduced a few new features > that got me to remove Firefox on my Windows PC altogether. The > features were Hello, Camera Access (Android), and screen-sharing. > Every single one of those featu

Re: KDE 5 in Debian

2016-02-25 Thread Adam Wilson
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:14:03 +0530 Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Has anyone tried installing KDE plasma desktop (KDE 5) on Debian > Stable. Yeah, it's not in stable, but is there any way to install it > without losing the benefits of Debian stable. The whole point of Debian stable is that it is supp

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Gary Dale
On 25/02/16 06:38 PM, arian wrote: Debian's Gnome uses Iceweasel much like Windows uses IE. I'm not really sure what you mean. It's Debians default browser in the way I think IE is currently Windows' default browser, but it's not used outside of being used as a browser. Many programs use som

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello Charlie: On 26/02/16 03:53, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > if Iceweasel incorporates those Firefox features, I would have to also switch > away from Debian. Is it not an extreme attitude ? There are plenty of web browser around: https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers Be aware that the list is

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:01:43 +1100 "Daniel" wrote: >While not relevant to Debian, Pale Moon for Windows is neat. > > > >From: H Kyu [mailto:henry.s@gmail.com] >Sent: 26 February, 2016 7:40 AM >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; secur...@debian.o

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread John Hasler
H Kyu writes: > Would Iceweasel also be incorporating those bothersome features in the > near future? If so, would it be possible to use Debian without > Iceweasel or any Mozilla product? GNOME does not require Iceweasel and Debian requires neither GNOME nor Iceweasel. There are many desktop envi

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 February 2016 21:01:43 Daniel wrote: > While not relevant to Debian, Pale Moon for Windows is neat. Pale Moon can be used in Debian too. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Pale+Moon+debian&oq=Pale+Moon+debian&aqs=chrome..69i57.3921j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 Lisi > From

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 February 2016 20:39:59 H Kyu wrote: > But if Iceweasel incorporates those Firefox features, I would have > to also switch away from Debian. You are confusing Debian with Gnome. Debian is the distro. Gnome is the Desktop environment. I believe that Gnome uses Iceweasel by default

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016, H Kyu wrote: > ​Hello - > > Recently, Mozilla's Firefox browser introduced a few new features > that got me to remove Firefox on my Windows PC altogether. The > features were Hello, Camera Access (Android), and screen-sharing. > Every single one of those features did not sit

Re: Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread arian
> Debian's Gnome uses Iceweasel much like Windows uses IE. I'm not really sure what you mean. It's Debians default browser in the way I think IE is currently Windows' default browser, but it's not used outside of being used as a browser. Many programs use some flavor of webkit for the like of

KDE 5 in Debian

2016-02-25 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
Has anyone tried installing KDE plasma desktop (KDE 5) on Debian Stable. Yeah, it's not in stable, but is there any way to install it without losing the benefits of Debian stable. Also, I have Gnome already installed alongside Xfce. Would that trouble?

Debian and Firefox/Iceweasel

2016-02-25 Thread H Kyu
​Hello - Recently, Mozilla's Firefox browser introduced a few new features that got me to remove Firefox on my Windows PC altogether. The features were Hello, Camera Access (Android), and screen-sharing. Every single one of those features did not sit well with me from a security perspective. On

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Sven Hartge
Bret Busby wrote: > On 26/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: >> That is more than risky. >> 1) Iceape is EOL since 2013: https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819 > Now that has me puzzled. > Given that iceape was (I believe) part of Debian 6, I am surprised > that the LTS that is due to exp

Re: Warning Linux Mint Website Hacked and ISOs replaced with Backdoored Operating System

2016-02-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > MD5 alone can be somewhat dangerous even in benevolent environments: if the > data sets are large enough or you are just unlucky, The size of the data set does not matter much. As already stated, there is the Pidgeon Hole Principle, which tells us that a 1

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > That is more than risky. > 1) Iceape is EOL since 2013: https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819 Now that has me puzzled. Given that iceape was (I believe) part of Debian 6, I am surprised that the LTS that is due to expire on Monday coming, apparent

Re: Need mentorship and support

2016-02-25 Thread Surya Saha
Here is a little site which is good for spotting basic mistakes in shell scripts. http://www.shellcheck.net/ -Surya On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Thanks a lot for reviewing the code. > I thank you a lot. > > On Feb 25, 2016 9:41 PM, "Jean-Baptiste Thomas" < > cau2

Re: Need mentorship and support

2016-02-25 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
Thanks a lot for reviewing the code. I thank you a lot. On Feb 25, 2016 9:41 PM, "Jean-Baptiste Thomas" wrote: > > > github.com/himanshushekharb16/ProxyMan > > Hi Himanshu. Quick look at main.sh. > > 1) Some messages are written to stdout, others to stderr. I think > that writing everything to st

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > That is more than risky. > 1) Iceape is EOL since 2013: https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819 > 2) While Ubuntu is based on Debian, there's (sometimes) a huge > difference in the software releases shipped: > * libc6: 2.11 (Debian 6) vs. 2.21 (Ubun

Re: a server question?

2016-02-25 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, Let me speak to your fine questions below, the ones I can answer I mean. On Thu, 25 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: This is Alpine complaining that it lost its connection to the server? yes. I am running Alpine when it happens. To try to help debugging the problem, it'd be useful t

x11vnc session unrecoverable after trying to switch user in xfce

2016-02-25 Thread Vyacheslav Napadovsky
Hello. I'm using debian 8 latest version of packages gdm3=3.14.1-7 task-xfce-desktop=3.31+deb8u1 x11vnc=0.9.13-1.2+b2 xfswitch-plugin=0.0.1-5 (I switched to gdm3 from lightdm with "dpkg-reconfigure gdm3") I launch x11vnc with this command line: /usr/bin/x11vnc -norc -forever -shared -bg -rfbaut

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
That is more than risky. 1) Iceape is EOL since 2013: https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819 2) While Ubuntu is based on Debian, there's (sometimes) a huge difference in the software releases shipped: * libc6: 2.11 (Debian 6) vs. 2.21 (Ubuntu 15.10) * libssl: 0.9.8o vs. 1.0.2d * libgtk

Re: a server question?

2016-02-25 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:35:07AM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi everyone, [...] > very very often I will be say in alpine reading my in box and > suddenly everything freezes. > I get an error, > "waited 15 seconds for server to respond, still wa

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/02/2016, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 2/25/2016 7:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Thursday 25 February 2016 12:59:29 Siard wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:08:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: I searched for a .deb package, for iceape, so that I could download the package for the iceape su

Re: a server question?

2016-02-25 Thread Henning Follmann
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:35:07AM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi everyone, > Our nonprofit organization has an account with dreamhost. > www.dreamhost.com > they provide a shell using Ubuntu, which I use exclusively to manage > things like email. > They provide alpine, which functions for me el

a server question?

2016-02-25 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi everyone, Our nonprofit organization has an account with dreamhost. www.dreamhost.com they provide a shell using Ubuntu, which I use exclusively to manage things like email. They provide alpine, which functions for me elsewhere fine, but has issues on the dreamhost side. My question is about

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 2/25/2016 7:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 25 February 2016 12:59:29 Siard wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:08:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: I searched for a .deb package, for iceape, so that I could download the package for the iceape suite, to try to install it. AFAIK, Iceape, being the

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > Hello, > > Yes, and no. You can run `apt-get -d install iceape`, and it will > download the package, and the missing dependencies, to > /var/cache/apt/archives/. However, if you want to install something on a > machine without internet access you might be b

Re: Warning Linux Mint Website Hacked and ISOs replaced with Backdoored Operating System

2016-02-25 Thread Christian Seiler
On 02/25/2016 03:07 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> MD5 alone can be somewhat dangerous even in benevolent environments: if the >> data sets are large enough or you are just unlucky, you are going to hit a >> colision and corrupt-or-lose-data-on-dedup sooner or later. > > [G]it doesn't seem worried a

Re: aptitude purge vlc removes approximately 116 other KDE packages

2016-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 February 2016 14:12:16 Felix Miata wrote: > Keith Christian composed on 2016-02-25 06:45 (UTC-0700): > > Running Debian Jessie on a non-critical system at home. Wanted to use > > xine-ui instead of vlc as a video player, since there appeared to be > > some sort of conflict. > > > >

Re: Warning Linux Mint Website Hacked and ISOs replaced with Backdoored Operating System

2016-02-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> MD5 alone can be somewhat dangerous even in benevolent environments: if the >> data sets are large enough or you are just unlucky, you are going to hit a >> colision and corrupt-or-lose-data-on-dedup sooner or later. > it doesn't seem worried about this. Admittedly, they use sha1 rather ^ G

Re: aptitude purge vlc removes approximately 116 other KDE packages

2016-02-25 Thread Felix Miata
Keith Christian composed on 2016-02-25 06:45 (UTC-0700): > Running Debian Jessie on a non-critical system at home. Wanted to use > xine-ui instead of vlc as a video player, since there appeared to be > some sort of conflict. > Ran aptitude -y purge vlc to do the obvious. 116 packages were > rem

Re: Warning Linux Mint Website Hacked and ISOs replaced with Backdoored Operating System

2016-02-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> MD5 alone can be somewhat dangerous even in benevolent environments: if the > data sets are large enough or you are just unlucky, you are going to hit a > colision and corrupt-or-lose-data-on-dedup sooner or later. it doesn't seem worried about this. Admittedly, they use sha1 rather than md5, s

Re: aptitude purge vlc removes approximately 116 other KDE packages

2016-02-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-02-25 at 08:45, Keith Christian wrote: > Running Debian Jessie on a non-critical system at home. Wanted to > use xine-ui instead of vlc as a video player, since there appeared to > be some sort of conflict. > > Ran aptitude -y purge vlc to do the obvious. 116 packages were > removed, m

Re: Warning Linux Mint Website Hacked and ISOs replaced with Backdoored Operating System

2016-02-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote: > 1) I do what fdupes does, ie identify files (in a benevolent >environment) using the MD5 signature to detect duplicate >contents. MD5 alone can be somewhat dangerous even in benevolent environments: if the data sets are large enough or you are jus

aptitude purge vlc removes approximately 116 other KDE packages

2016-02-25 Thread Keith Christian
Running Debian Jessie on a non-critical system at home. Wanted to use xine-ui instead of vlc as a video player, since there appeared to be some sort of conflict. Ran aptitude -y purge vlc to do the obvious. 116 packages were removed, most of the core of KDE. Why were so many other packages depe

Re: Configure my headless Debian server as "bluetooth loudspeaker"

2016-02-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> http://blog.stevenocchipinti.com/2012/10/bluetooth-audio-streaming-from-phone-to.html/ > Looks like this is relevant for you. Indeed, thank you very much! Stefan

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 February 2016 12:59:29 Siard wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:08:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > I searched for a .deb package, for iceape, so that I could download > > the package for the iceape suite, to try to install it. > > AFAIK, Iceape, being the Debian version of Seamonkey, ha

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Siard
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:08:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > I searched for a .deb package, for iceape, so that I could download > the package for the iceape suite, to try to install it. AFAIK, Iceape, being the Debian version of Seamonkey, has been discontinued for quite some time now. There is only a

Need mentorship and support

2016-02-25 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
I made some bash scripts to set proxy on a standard Debian / Ubuntu distribution about a month ago. The tool works well. However, I would love that to be included as a part of the base system because present systems lack some features as authentication and a normal user would not like to fall into

Re: aptitude program list

2016-02-25 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Richard Hector wrote on 02/25/16 00:35: > On 25/02/16 09:18, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Better generate such a list with aptitude itself which allows to >> exclude automatically installed packages >> >> aptitude -F "%p" '~i!~M' > list_of_packages_manually_installed > > Or perhaps > > aptitude

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 04:32:47PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: Hello, Searching for a single .deb & trying to install that is the way proprietary systems handle it. With Debian, and most other Linux distros, there's repositories, and tools to handle dependen

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
Hello, Yes, and no. You can run `apt-get -d install iceape`, and it will download the package, and the missing dependencies, to /var/cache/apt/archives/. However, if you want to install something on a machine without internet access you might be better off with apt-medium [1], although I never use

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:32:47 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Is there a way (a switch for the apt-get command?) to download all of > the dependencies? I have looked at man apt-get, and, that has an > option "download" (as opposed to install or find), but I could not > find, from the man entry for apt-g

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > Hello, > > Searching for a single .deb & trying to install that is the way > proprietary systems handle it. With Debian, and most other Linux > distros, there's repositories, and tools to handle dependencies. Open a > command line / terminal and enter > sud

Re: Encrypted PDF isn't

2016-02-25 Thread Richard Hector
On 25/02/16 18:23, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 Feb 2016 at 23:10:42 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Wednesday 24 February 2016 21:16:46 David Wright wrote: > encrypted.pdf >>> >>> No, sadly it is not! >>> >>> Sorry, David. ;-) > Well it turns out that the problem has affected other peop