Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Guillermo
Hola

On 16-06-02 19:32:34, Alparkom wrote:

> No es primera vez que instalo de esta forma.
>
> Probé varias veces y con distintos sistemas operativos...
>
> - Debian 8.4 netinstall (3 veces)
> - Debian 8.4 freeware netinstall (2 veces)
> - Kali 2016.1 (3 veces)
> - Deepin 15.1.1 (3 veces)
>
> Aunque acepto que no me expliqué bien... la verdad es que eso del "grub"
> aparecía aveces y cuando volvía a cambiar la imagen se solucionaba
> (ingresaba al instalador).
>

Si te pasa tantas veces y con distintas distribuciones igual el problema
no está en la ISO. Probaste a instalar las ISOs en distintos
dispositivos USB o siempre usas el mismo?? Has comprobado si la memoria
RAM está bien??


Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread Cyrille
complément
numéro de version de l'iphone 7.1.2 (11D257)

Le Fri, 3 Jun 2016 00:37:18 +0200,
Dominique Asselineau  a écrit :

> Cyrille wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 05:04:17PM +0200
> > 
> > Sur ton iphone REGLAGES / partage de connexion ===> A Activer
> > Il te donne un mot de passe
> > Tu scannes ton wifi
> > Puis tu te connectes comme d'hab ;-)
> 
> Merci de la procédure, je la connaissais pour l'avoir utilisée avec
> succès du temps d'iOS6 mais en USB, moins de complication qu'avec le
> wifi.  Ça marchait en effet très bien pour le partage de connexion
> avec Linux.  Avec iOS7, pas de mot de passe à taper, juste une demande
> de confirmation pour établir la connexion jugée douteuse par ce même
> iOS7.
> 
> Peut-être que sur une version plus récente d'iOS la politique d'Apple
> est-elle redevenue plus coopérative ?  J'essaierai d'obtenir
> confirmation avant d'upgrader.
> 
> dom



Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

2016-06-02 Thread Felix Miata
Mostafa Shahverdy composed on 2016-05-30 17:53 (UTC+0430):

> I have an ultra wide monitor that supports 2560x1080.
> While I have a Radeon 5450 graphic card, running Debian Sid, I only can get 
> 1920x1080.
...

I suggest you try purging xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon.
I couldn't get Stretch's radeon to do 2560x1080 with HD5450 either, but
2560x1080 WFM with the built-in/native Xorg modeset driver, the recommended
FOSS driver for non-ancient gfxchips in xserver versions >1.16.x:

http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/d9tde-desktop-2560x1080.jpg
-- 
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: enable telnetd?

2016-06-02 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/03/2016 05:20 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
[snip]
> When I wrote, I hadn't yet learned that the problem that made me want to
> use Telnet was known, and a patch already submitted, but not yet
> included in an update available on the mirrors:
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/3339
[snip]

> Dan Purgert composed on 2016-06-02 19:57 (UTC): 
>> Would a serial console (i.e. /dev/ttyS0) suit your needs?
> 
> Probably not well, something yet else to configure that I haven't needed
> to do in more than two decades, another cable to locate and connect, and
> likely for a one time only use. Or can serial connection be shared over
> existing ethernet?

If the machines have two serial ports, they can be grouped pairs such
that the serial console of one is connected to the second port of the
other.  Then you can do just about everything except turn the power on
again (unless you have Wake-on-LAN set up too) from the other machine
using cu, tip, or minicom or screen.  But anything you can do from the
console itself you can then do from the other machine in the pair.

If it was just a matter of having a different daemon available to the
outside world (or other machines on the LAN) then maybe you could have
had the dropbear SSH daemon running on another port.  If some of the
system is not working maybe the shell could be busybox, but I don't know
if that would work for you in this situation.

Regards,
Lars



Re: enable telnetd?

2016-06-02 Thread Felix Miata

Dan Purgert composed on 2016-06-02 19:57 (UTC):


Felix Miata wrote:



I have no interest in answers explaining ssh and security risk. These are
understood. All I'm interested in is capturing dmesg and logs from a test
installation while normal logins are busy with segfaulting or otherwise
inaccessible.



well, if /dev/tty# is shot because segfaulting (or otherwise
inaccessible), I wouldn't expect telnetd to help there any (unless
telnet uses a different pool of ttys).


Actually I would expect it to use a different "pool", but this is not a 
subject I know more than a trifle about.


When I wrote, I hadn't yet learned that the problem that made me want to use 
Telnet was known, and a patch already submitted, but not yet included in an 
update available on the mirrors:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/3339

IOW, current need is past, but I'd still like to know what's wrong and get it 
fixed for a possible next time.



Would a serial console (i.e. /dev/ttyS0) suit your needs?


Probably not well, something yet else to configure that I haven't needed to 
do in more than two decades, another cable to locate and connect, and likely 
for a one time only use. Or can serial connection be shared over existing 
ethernet?

--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



Re: make ping executable by normal users?

2016-06-02 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 at 06:56, Britton Kerin  wrote:

> On my old debian system I could ping as a normal user.  The ping
> binary had the suid bit set.  Now I get:
>
> $ ping www.google.com
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
> 2 $
>
> presumably because the bit isn't set.
>
> What's the right fix?  I could setuid it but then if I understand
> correctly it might get changed back by an upgrade.  Does it use
> capabilites or something?
>
> Thanks,
> Britton
>
> Operation not permitted doesn't, contrary to appearances, automatically
mean a permissions problem. I recently built a Linux From Scratch machine
and at one point was getting that error when running ping as root. I'm now
wracking my brains to remember what the cause was.

Could you have a local firewall eg iptables that has accidentally blocked
ALL outgoing traffic? I think you can get this error if ping cannot connect
OUT of the box.

Does it happen if you run ping as root?

I've also seen this when the kernel didn't have all the right stuff
compiled in, but that's not likely to be it if you are using a Debian
kernel. Running strace on a ping attempt could diagnose that.

So check if it happens when you are root. If it does, check your internal
firewall (not your network's). If that is ok or switched off, try strace.

Mark


Re: enable telnetd?

2016-06-02 Thread Felix Miata

Sven Arvidsson composed on 2016-06-02 20:59 (UTC+0200):


On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 00:48 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:



Google cannot provide an answer to configuring telnetd WRT Debian, only WRT
every other distro on the planet. When I try to login after installing
telnetd and seeing xinetd enabled, login name is always greeted with "Login
incorrect". Telnet login works in openSUSE and Fedora via /etc/pam.d/remote,
but that file is missing in Stretch, and copying one from openSUSE doesn't
have any apparent effect.



I have no interest in answers explaining ssh and security risk. These are
understood. All I'm interested in is capturing dmesg and logs from a test
installation while normal logins are busy with segfaulting or otherwise
inaccessible.



Does logging in through telnet not work at all, or just not as root?


Failure differs. With login root, password entry is not offered. With other 
user, password entry is offered, but is "incorrect".

--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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Fwd: Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Uzziel Contreras Portilla

Reenvío a la lista

Exacto!!!

 * También puedes intentar con el disco Live de Debian en mi caso
   particular no me ha dado ningún problema: https://www.debian.org/CD/live

¿Alguien más que pueda ayudar al amigo?


 Mensaje reenviado 
Asunto: Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.
Fecha:  Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:01:49 -0400
De: alparkom . 
Para:   Uzziel Contreras Portilla 



Intentaré eso.

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.es

Sería así, cierto?

El día 2 de junio de 2016, 19:51, Uzziel Contreras Portilla
 escribió:

Buenas tardes Amigos;

Has intentado lo siguiente:

Iniciar tu máquina con Debian Jessie Live
Crear a mano las particiones que necesitas
Instalar solo el modo consola
Y por último instalar el pequete del escritorio que necesites

Saludos...


El 02/06/16 a las 18:47, alparkom . escribió:

El día 2 de junio de 2016, 19:41, Fausto Disla  escribió:

Hola,

Por que no intentas hacer un backup de la particion buena y luego borrar las
particiones y formatear el disco y crear las particiones nueva vez.

Espero te funcione.

Un saludo.

De hecho esa partición es un backup y fue creada especialmente para
eso.. tener que hacer un backup del backup seria jodedor (mas que nada
porque son 150GB y no tengo disco duro externo).

Porque me dice que no se detectan módulos del kernel? Es que tengo que
instalar el kernel antes que el SO? Pero como puedo hacer esto si no
tengo partición con las carpetas de Linux?






Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Uzziel Contreras Portilla

Buenas tardes Amigos;

Has intentado lo siguiente:

 * Iniciar tu máquina con Debian Jessie Live
 * Crear a mano las particiones que necesitas
 * Instalar solo el modo consola
 * Y por último instalar el pequete del escritorio que necesites

Saludos...


El 02/06/16 a las 18:47, alparkom . escribió:

El día 2 de junio de 2016, 19:41, Fausto Disla  escribió:

Hola,

Por que no intentas hacer un backup de la particion buena y luego borrar las
particiones y formatear el disco y crear las particiones nueva vez.

Espero te funcione.

Un saludo.


De hecho esa partición es un backup y fue creada especialmente para
eso.. tener que hacer un backup del backup seria jodedor (mas que nada
porque son 150GB y no tengo disco duro externo).

Porque me dice que no se detectan módulos del kernel? Es que tengo que
instalar el kernel antes que el SO? Pero como puedo hacer esto si no
tengo partición con las carpetas de Linux?





Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread alparkom .
El día 2 de junio de 2016, 19:41, Fausto Disla  escribió:
> Hola,
>
> Por que no intentas hacer un backup de la particion buena y luego borrar las
> particiones y formatear el disco y crear las particiones nueva vez.
>
> Espero te funcione.
>
> Un saludo.
>

De hecho esa partición es un backup y fue creada especialmente para
eso.. tener que hacer un backup del backup seria jodedor (mas que nada
porque son 150GB y no tengo disco duro externo).

Porque me dice que no se detectan módulos del kernel? Es que tengo que
instalar el kernel antes que el SO? Pero como puedo hacer esto si no
tengo partición con las carpetas de Linux?



Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Fausto Disla
Hola,

Por que no intentas hacer un backup de la particion buena y luego borrar
las particiones y formatear el disco y crear las particiones nueva vez.

Espero te funcione.

Un saludo.
On Jun 2, 2016 7:32 PM, "Alparkom"  wrote:

> No es primera vez que instalo de esta forma.
>
> Probé varias veces y con distintos sistemas operativos...
>
> - Debian 8.4 netinstall (3 veces)
> - Debian 8.4 freeware netinstall (2 veces)
> - Kali 2016.1 (3 veces)
> - Deepin 15.1.1 (3 veces)
>
> Aunque acepto que no me expliqué bien... la verdad es que eso del "grub"
> aparecía aveces y cuando volvía a cambiar la imagen se solucionaba
> (ingresaba al instalador).
>
> Aveces me aparecían los errores:
> Error: addres is out of range you need to load the kernel first
> Error: you need to load the kernel first
>
> Si llegaba al instalador, en la zona de discos duros me aparecía:
> el nucleo actual no parece incluir soporte para dispositivos raid software
> (md) debian
>
> Y no me dejaba particionar el disco (una vez hecho todo, no podía escribir
> los cambios en disco). Además, ni siquiera podía seleccionar una particion
> para la raiz. Osea, al seleccionarla no me aparecía la opción "EXT4" (de
> hecho casi ni una... aunque tengo una partición EXT4 y esta funcionando) ni
> tampoco que carpeta estaba dentro de dicha partición (no habian opciones)...
>
> Otra cosa es que no detectaba (Debian 8.4 netinstall ni freeware) mis
> tarjetas de red mientras que Kali si lo hacia en el instalador (venga, pero
> tampoco se instalaba, aparecía error desconocido).
>
> Gracias!
>
> El 02/06/16 a las 14:32, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
>
>> El jue, 02-06-2016 a las 14:00 -0400, Alparkom escribió:
>>
>>> Buenas.
>>>
>>> Estoy intentando instalar Debian 8.4 (versión "netinstal") desde un
>>> USB
>>> en un disco duro con 2 particiones. La primera antes tenía W10 pero
>>> fue
>>> formateada, la segunda tiene archivos y su formato es EXT4.
>>>
>>> Al tratar de instalar Debian inicia desde el "grub". Mas que eso, es
>>> como una consola que comienza con el "grub> " y al presionar
>>> tabulador
>>> entrega todos los comandos disponibles.
>>>
>>> volver a descargar la imagen y hacer el usb de nuevo, que instrucciones
>> seguiste para armarlo?
>>
>>
>


Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Alparkom

No es primera vez que instalo de esta forma.

Probé varias veces y con distintos sistemas operativos...

- Debian 8.4 netinstall (3 veces)
- Debian 8.4 freeware netinstall (2 veces)
- Kali 2016.1 (3 veces)
- Deepin 15.1.1 (3 veces)

Aunque acepto que no me expliqué bien... la verdad es que eso del "grub" 
aparecía aveces y cuando volvía a cambiar la imagen se solucionaba 
(ingresaba al instalador).


Aveces me aparecían los errores:
Error: addres is out of range you need to load the kernel first
Error: you need to load the kernel first

Si llegaba al instalador, en la zona de discos duros me aparecía:
el nucleo actual no parece incluir soporte para dispositivos raid 
software (md) debian


Y no me dejaba particionar el disco (una vez hecho todo, no podía 
escribir los cambios en disco). Además, ni siquiera podía seleccionar 
una particion para la raiz. Osea, al seleccionarla no me aparecía la 
opción "EXT4" (de hecho casi ni una... aunque tengo una partición EXT4 y 
esta funcionando) ni tampoco que carpeta estaba dentro de dicha 
partición (no habian opciones)...


Otra cosa es que no detectaba (Debian 8.4 netinstall ni freeware) mis 
tarjetas de red mientras que Kali si lo hacia en el instalador (venga, 
pero tampoco se instalaba, aparecía error desconocido).


Gracias!

El 02/06/16 a las 14:32, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

El jue, 02-06-2016 a las 14:00 -0400, Alparkom escribió:

Buenas.

Estoy intentando instalar Debian 8.4 (versión "netinstal") desde un
USB
en un disco duro con 2 particiones. La primera antes tenía W10 pero
fue
formateada, la segunda tiene archivos y su formato es EXT4.

Al tratar de instalar Debian inicia desde el "grub". Mas que eso, es
como una consola que comienza con el "grub> " y al presionar
tabulador
entrega todos los comandos disponibles.


volver a descargar la imagen y hacer el usb de nuevo, que instrucciones
seguiste para armarlo?





Re: make ping executable by normal users?

2016-06-02 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 11:28:40PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> So far as I can see, ping IS executable by normal users.  But then I have 
> only 
> got Wheezy and Jessie.  Are you using Stretch or Sid??

This is not really new in stretch. You can experiment this funny
effect in jessie as well. Try this on a jessie system:

cd /bin
mv ping ping.old
cp ping.old ping

Then ping will no longer work for an ordinary user because it lost its
"capability", that you can see with getcap this way:

getcap ping.old
getcap ping

It's a funny effect because you will never see the difference by just
doing "ls -l".

This capability may be lost, for example, if you use rsync to copy the root
filesystem to another partition with rsync and forget to use -X option.



Re: make ping executable by normal users?

2016-06-02 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 01:56:08PM -0800, Britton Kerin wrote:
> On my old debian system I could ping as a normal user.  The ping
> binary had the suid bit set.  Now I get:
> 
> $ ping www.google.com
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
> 2 $
> 
> presumably because the bit isn't set.
> 
> What's the right fix?  I could setuid it but then if I understand
> correctly it might get changed back by an upgrade.  Does it use
> capabilites or something?

Yes, it uses capabilities. The simple fix is to do this:

dpkg-reconfigure iputils-ping



Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread Dominique Asselineau
Cyrille wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 05:04:17PM +0200
> 
> Sur ton iphone REGLAGES / partage de connexion ===> A Activer
> Il te donne un mot de passe
> Tu scannes ton wifi
> Puis tu te connectes comme d'hab ;-)

Merci de la procédure, je la connaissais pour l'avoir utilisée avec
succès du temps d'iOS6 mais en USB, moins de complication qu'avec le
wifi.  Ça marchait en effet très bien pour le partage de connexion
avec Linux.  Avec iOS7, pas de mot de passe à taper, juste une demande
de confirmation pour établir la connexion jugée douteuse par ce même
iOS7.

Peut-être que sur une version plus récente d'iOS la politique d'Apple
est-elle redevenue plus coopérative ?  J'essaierai d'obtenir
confirmation avant d'upgrader.

dom
-- 



Re: make ping executable by normal users?

2016-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 02 June 2016 22:56:08 Britton Kerin wrote:
> On my old debian system I could ping as a normal user.  The ping
> binary had the suid bit set.  Now I get:
>
> $ ping www.google.com
> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
> 2 $
>
> presumably because the bit isn't set.
>
> What's the right fix?  I could setuid it but then if I understand
> correctly it might get changed back by an upgrade.  Does it use
> capabilites or something?

So far as I can see, ping IS executable by normal users.  But then I have only 
got Wheezy and Jessie.  Are you using Stretch or Sid??

Lisi



Re: Portable Debian?

2016-06-02 Thread Glenn English

> On 2016-05-11, emetib  wrote:
>> I know this is a little off topic, yet I wrote this a while back
>> because of script kiddies messing with ssh on my server at the time.

Use ssh key logins and a packet filter to allow only certain IP(s)/user(s) to 
access your server(s)?

-- 
Glenn English





make ping executable by normal users?

2016-06-02 Thread Britton Kerin
On my old debian system I could ping as a normal user.  The ping
binary had the suid bit set.  Now I get:

$ ping www.google.com
ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
2 $

presumably because the bit isn't set.

What's the right fix?  I could setuid it but then if I understand
correctly it might get changed back by an upgrade.  Does it use
capabilites or something?

Thanks,
Britton



Testing Dist MIPS Install Problem

2016-06-02 Thread Mike
Hello all,

I'm playing around with using QEMU to configure different install
environments. At present, I am able to successfully install and run a
Debian MIPS install using the latest table release:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-mips/current/images/malta/netboot/

However, when I attempt to do the same process with the testing branch,
upon start-up of the installer I immediately get a kernel panic:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-mips/current/images/malta/netboot/

[1.903631] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
exitcode=0x0004
[1.903631]
[1.905232] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
exitcode=0x0004

Anyone know why this would be? It works just fine in stable but panics in
testing.

Best,

Mike


Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread Cyrille

Sur ton iphone REGLAGES / partage de connexion ===> A Activer
Il te donne un mot de passe
Tu scannes ton wifi
Puis tu te connectes comme d'hab ;-)



Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-02 Thread Dan Purgert
David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 01 Jun 2016 at 14:47:11 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> [snip]
>> 
>> I came "late" to the party myself, and missed the post where I imagine
>> why Lisi is after runlevel 1.  
>> 
>> Personally, with the exception of my laptop, everything starts in
>> runlevel 3 here.
>
> IIRC Debian has always left it to the admin to make runlevels 2 and 3
> distinct from one another. (OTOH I've never thought about how to
> implement that in either sysvinit or systemd.)

>From what I can tell, runlevels 2-5 all look identical in a default
(Jessie) install.

I've always used systems that have "standard" runlevels

0 = halt
1 = single user
2 = (unused /user-defined)
3 = multi-user, X disabled
4 = (unused / user-defined)
5 = multi-user, X enabled

Though, in playing with Debian, I'm finding they set runlevel2 =
"standard runlevel5".  Haven't gotten around to "fixing" it.

-- 
Registered Linux user #585947
Github: https://github.com/dpurgert



Re: enable telnetd?

2016-06-02 Thread Dan Purgert
Felix Miata wrote:
> I have no interest in answers explaining ssh and security risk. These are 
> understood. All I'm interested in is capturing dmesg and logs from a test 
> installation while normal logins are busy with segfaulting or otherwise 
> inaccessible.

well, if /dev/tty# is shot because segfaulting (or otherwise
inaccessible), I wouldn't expect telnetd to help there any (unless
telnet uses a different pool of ttys).

Would a serial console (i.e. /dev/ttyS0) suit your needs?

-- 
Registered Linux user #585947
Github: https://github.com/dpurgert



Re: Compteur de temps d'utilisation

2016-06-02 Thread Mic Grentz
Le jeudi 2 juin 2016, 16:10:04 CEST andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> On Thursday 02 June 2016 15:34:32 Mic Grentz wrote:
> > Savez-vous s'il existe un outil sous Linux Debian/Ubuntu afin
> > de connaître le  temps d'utilisation d'un poste de travail ou
> > d'une session ?
> > Un peu comme un chronomètre qu'on stopperait dès que
> > l'utilisateur n'a plus  rien fait (souris, clavier) depuis 2 minutes
> > par exemple.
> 
> La commande :
> # who
> root pts/0 2016-06-02 10:45 (.)
> donne ces infos ci-dessus,
> 
> Il y a aussi le fichier /var/log/auth.log
> 
> mais cela répond t-il à la question ?
> 
> Après, on peut créer un script Bash pour traiter les sessions
> et leur durée, ce ne sera pas en temps réel mais instantané.

Non car l'utilisateur peut être connecté mais pas forcement devant son écran.
En gros je veux savoir combien de temps un utilisateur passe devant son écran 
(mes enfants en l'occurence et moi par la même occasion). 

Un script qui vérifie toute les minutes l'heure d'utilisation de la souris ou 
du clavier ? 

-- 
Mic



Re: Portable Debian?

2016-06-02 Thread Oliver Briscbois
On 2016-05-11, emetib  wrote:
>I know this is a little off topic, yet I wrote this a while back
>because of script kiddies messing with ssh on my server at the time.

Thanks for that.

Oliver



Re: enable telnetd?

2016-06-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 00:48 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Google cannot provide an answer to configuring telnetd WRT Debian,
> only WRT 
> every other distro on the planet. When I try to login after
> installing 
> telnetd and seeing xinetd enabled, login name is always greeted with
> "Login 
> incorrect". Telnet login works in openSUSE and Fedora via
> /etc/pam.d/remote, 
> but that file is missing in Stretch, and copying one from openSUSE
> doesn't 
> have any apparent effect.
> 
> I have no interest in answers explaining ssh and security risk. These
> are 
> understood. All I'm interested in is capturing dmesg and logs from a
> test 
> installation while normal logins are busy with segfaulting or
> otherwise 
> inaccessible.

Does logging in through telnet not work at all, or just not as root?

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5



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Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

2016-06-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 18:49 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> I use the kernel parameter "radeon.dpm=1" for saving some energy with
> my GPU.

That shouldn't be necessary with an up to date kernel. Power management
is automatic.

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Re: Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 02-06-2016 a las 14:00 -0400, Alparkom escribió:
> Buenas.
> 
> Estoy intentando instalar Debian 8.4 (versión "netinstal") desde un
> USB 
> en un disco duro con 2 particiones. La primera antes tenía W10 pero
> fue 
> formateada, la segunda tiene archivos y su formato es EXT4.
> 
> Al tratar de instalar Debian inicia desde el "grub". Mas que eso, es 
> como una consola que comienza con el "grub> " y al presionar
> tabulador 
> entrega todos los comandos disponibles.
> 

volver a descargar la imagen y hacer el usb de nuevo, que instrucciones
seguiste para armarlo?



Re: GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

2016-06-02 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Michael Biebl wrote:
[...]
> Unfortunately the synaptics package in Debian was changed to have a
> higher priority then libinput [2]. So if you have
> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed you can't configure your touchpad
> in gnome-control-center atm.

Removing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics worked. Thanks!


> This situation is unfortunate, but we are aware of it and hope to figure
> something out for stretch.

xserver-xorg-input-all depends on xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. So maybe 
the first step would be to remove that dependency since it does not seem 
to be needed anymore.

-- 
Francois Gouget   http://fgouget.free.fr/
I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on tape around here somewhere...



Instalación de Debian Jessie.

2016-06-02 Thread Alparkom

Buenas.

Estoy intentando instalar Debian 8.4 (versión "netinstal") desde un USB 
en un disco duro con 2 particiones. La primera antes tenía W10 pero fue 
formateada, la segunda tiene archivos y su formato es EXT4.


Al tratar de instalar Debian inicia desde el "grub". Mas que eso, es 
como una consola que comienza con el "grub> " y al presionar tabulador 
entrega todos los comandos disponibles.


Alguna solución? Gracias.



Re: Caracters rars a pagina web

2016-06-02 Thread Ricard Pradell
Partint de la meva ignorància, una pregunta... Pot tenir quelcom a veure la
arquitectura? Es la única maquina amb sistema de 32 bits
El 01/06/2016 22:15, "Narcis Garcia"  escribió:

> Em sembla que el problema primer a resoldre és que no veu bé els
> símbols, i si algú confirma que no són imatges, doncs les tipografies.
>
> Sobre l'altre tema llunyà a la consulta, jo sóc del parer que tot recurs
> (tipografia/font, script/JS, imatge, etc) que no està allotjat al mateix
> domini de la pàgina que hom visita, és una via d'inseguretat i en el 99%
> dels casos amb el propòsit d'espiar el visitant.
>
> Ja seria hora que els navegadors, apart de permetre restringit l'ús de
> cookies i/o scripts, també permetessin restringir els recursos remots de
> forma general, igual com es fa pel correu electrònic.
>
>
> El 01/06/16 a les 18:05, Víctor Domènech ha escrit:
> > Hola
> >
> >
> > tens alternatives "lliures"  Glyphicons, pots descarregar a local i no
> > descarregar la icona de qualsevol servidor que pugui esnifar, però em
> > sembla que aquest tema no afecta als caràcters rars, pot ser un tema de
> > codificació dels caràcters rars, si et passa a totes les pàgines ni
> > idea, ho sento.
> >
> > Víctor  Domènech
> > Linux User #432064 http://counter.li.org
> >
> >
> > El dia 1 de juny de 2016, 13:27, Eduard Selma  > > ha escrit:
> >
> > El 01/06/16 a les 12:07, Ricard Pradell ha escrit:
> >
> > Encara vaig força perdut, vist el que em passa amb les icones de
> > Font
> > Awesome, teniu alguna idea del que m'està passant?
> >
> >
> > - No sóc pas expert en el tema, però les "Font Awesome" de Google em
> > sembla senzillament un malbaratament de recursos i una manera perquè
> > a can Google puguin "esnifar" més el nostre tràfic d'Internet. Quant
> > els "desenvolupadors" que les usen, em sembla que van del bracet amb
> > els que usen el joc de caràcters Comic Sans o similars, suposant que
> > tothom tenim aquest tipus de lletra horrible. vaja, l'antítesi del
> > W3C, em sembla. Sols la meva opinió.
> >
> > Això confirma que, com en tantes coses, "una web gran" no vol dir
> > pas "una bona web".
> >
> > Perdoneu, però algú ho havia de dir.
> >
> > Eduard Selma
> >
> >
>
>


Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

2016-06-02 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Mostafa Shahverdy wrote on 06/02/16 16:34:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:40:31PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>>>
>>> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
>>> HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
>> axis) 677mm x 290mm
>>>1920x1080 60.00*   50.0059.9430.0029.97
>>>1920x1080i60.0050.0059.94
>>>1680x1050 59.88
>>>1600x900  60.00
>>>1280x1024 75.0260.02
>>>1152x864  75.00
>>>1280x720  60.0050.0059.94
>>>1024x768  75.0860.00
>>>800x600   75.0060.32
>>>720x576   50.00
>>>720x480   60.0059.94
>>>640x480   75.0060.0059.94
>>>720x400   70.08
>>> DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
>>> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, this is strange. Did you try to fiddle with the setup of the monitor 
>> using
>> the buttons at the monitor? Something like scaling options?
>> I have no idea why xrandr doesn't show the native resolution.
>> The wiki of archlinux is a good documention. See "Adding undetected 
>> resolutions" on
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
>>
>> something like
>>
>>   xrandr --newmode "2569x1080_66.7" 185.6 2560 2624 2688 2784  1080 1083 1093
>>  -hsync -vsync
>>   xrandr --addmode "2569x1080_66.7"
>>   xrandr --output HDMI-0 "2569x1080_66.7"
>>
>> using information from your Xorg.0.log
> I've already tried this. Now that I can load the proper driver, I tried
> it again, and after choosing the created mode using Gnome Display, I
> faced a black screen saying "No Signal".

Are there some relevant messages in dmesg or .xsession-errors ?

That I interpret as switching off of the GPU.
What are the specifications of the graphic card regarding maximal electric
energy consumption? On the web I found something like around 160 Watts.
Can your power supply unit in the computer deliver that?

You said in another e-mail that your computer worked with Windows but maybe the
driver is better with energy saving.

I use the kernel parameter "radeon.dpm=1" for saving some energy with my GPU.
In the file /var/log/dmesg there appears then a lot of output regarding dpm
(lines containing [drm]).

>>
 Which kernel packages ("linux-image*") are installed?
>>> linux-image-amd64
>>> linux-image-4.5.0-2-amd64
>>> linux-image-4.3.0-1-amd64
>>> linux-headers-4.5.0-2-amd64
>>> linux-headers-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64
>>
>> Which one is running?
>>   uname -a
> Linux debian 4.5.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.5.4-1 (2016-05-16) x86_64
> GNU/Linux

That is uptodate.

>>

 Is there another GPU in your computer (integrated in the CPU or chipset)?
>>> No, Just this one. But as I already mentioned in the thread, I was using a
>>> GForce gpu before this one.
>>
>> May I ask, which CPU you have?
> I hope this in not something related to my CPU. 

No, I just asked because some CPUs have builtin GPUs.

Regards,
jvp.




Re: Compteur de temps d'utilisation

2016-06-02 Thread Basile Starynkevitch

On 06/02/2016 03:34 PM, Mic Grentz wrote:

Bonjour,

Savez-vous s'il existe un outil sous Linux Debian/Ubuntu afin de connaître le
temps d'utilisation d'un poste de travail ou d'une session ?

Un peu comme un chronomètre qu'on stopperait dès que l'utilisateur n'a plus
rien fait (souris, clavier) depuis 2 minutes par exemple.



Un utilisateur averti pourrait lancer une tâche de fond par crontab, at, 
batch...


Le système Linux pourrait alors exécuter (dans 15 minutes par exemple) 
un programme pour cet

utilisateur là (qui pourrait même s'être déconnecté).

Alors je ne comprends pas bien la question.

Sinon, il y aurait acct cf 
http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/acct.2.html & 
http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/sa.8.html


Librement


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Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread Dominique Asselineau
Bernard Schoenacker wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 12:31:05PM +0200
> bonjour,
> 
> j'a   i un ami qui souhaiterai employer un "ail"-phone comme modem
> USB, est ce possible ?

ça marchait très bien jusqu'à iOS6, un modem 3G en quelque sorte (à l'époque).
Puis avec iOS7, l'iPhone demandait si on voulait vraiment établir la
connexion et après acceptation, ça bouclait.  Ça tournait en rond si
on préfère.

J'avais appelé le support d'Apple qui m'a fort bien répondu, mais
après m'avoir fiat tout réinstaller, les mêmes causes produisant les
mêmes effets, j'étais dans la même situation.

Depuis je n'ai plus osé upgrader mon iPhone de crainte que d'autres
services ne fonctionnent plus non plus.  Peut-être les choses
ont-elles changé mais comme on ne peut pas downgrader l'iOS, j'en
reste là.

L'iPhone a ses qualités mais pas celle de l'interopérabilité.  Ceci
dit, peut-être que les choses ont changé ?

Dominique


> 
> l'installation est toute fraiche avec un noyau 4.5 
> 
> quelles sont les précautions à prendre pour y arriver ?
> 
> la seule chose que j'ai trouvé c'est un courriel de pascal hambourg
> 
> et un paquet que je n'ai pas installé du fait que je ne savais pas
> qu'il possédait un "ordiphone privateur"
> 
> paquet touvé suite à une recherche :
> https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/ipheth-utils
> 
> en faut il d'autres ?
> 
> 
> slt
> bernard
> 

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Re : Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Je connais quelqu'un qui le fait, donc oui ca fonctionne. Après je sais qu'il 
avait fallu faire du backport car iOS7 avait changé des choses, mais ca marche 
normalement.

Cordialement,


Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

HYPRA, progressons ensemble

Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61

Mail: cont...@hypra.fr

Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr

- Dominique Asselineau  a écrit :
> didier gaumet wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 02:23:32PM +0200
> > Le 02/06/2016 12:31, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> > > bonjour,
> > > 
> > > j'a   i un ami qui souhaiterai employer un "ail"-phone comme modem
> > > USB, est ce possible ?
> > [...]
> > 
> > Avec network-manager et un smartphone Androïd paramétré pour partager sa
> > connexion via USB, il n'y a strictement rien à faire: network-manager te
> > connecte automatiquement. Je suppose que c'est exactement la même chose
> > avec un Iphone...
> 
> Après la supposition, peut-on avoir une confirmation ?  car j'avais
> justement subi une infirmation.
> 
> Dominique
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 



Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread Dominique Asselineau
didier gaumet wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 02:23:32PM +0200
> Le 02/06/2016 12:31, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> > bonjour,
> > 
> > j'a i un ami qui souhaiterai employer un "ail"-phone comme modem
> > USB, est ce possible ?
> [...]
> 
> Avec network-manager et un smartphone Androïd paramétré pour partager sa
> connexion via USB, il n'y a strictement rien à faire: network-manager te
> connecte automatiquement. Je suppose que c'est exactement la même chose
> avec un Iphone...

Après la supposition, peut-on avoir une confirmation ?  car j'avais
justement subi une infirmation.

Dominique

> 
> 

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Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

2016-06-02 Thread Mostafa Shahverdy
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:40:31PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> >
> > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
> > HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
> axis) 677mm x 290mm
> >1920x1080 60.00*   50.0059.9430.0029.97
> >1920x1080i60.0050.0059.94
> >1680x1050 59.88
> >1600x900  60.00
> >1280x1024 75.0260.02
> >1152x864  75.00
> >1280x720  60.0050.0059.94
> >1024x768  75.0860.00
> >800x600   75.0060.32
> >720x576   50.00
> >720x480   60.0059.94
> >640x480   75.0060.0059.94
> >720x400   70.08
> > DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> >
> 
> Yes, this is strange. Did you try to fiddle with the setup of the monitor 
> using
> the buttons at the monitor? Something like scaling options?
> I have no idea why xrandr doesn't show the native resolution.
> The wiki of archlinux is a good documention. See "Adding undetected 
> resolutions" on
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
> 
> something like
> 
>   xrandr --newmode "2569x1080_66.7" 185.6 2560 2624 2688 2784  1080 1083 1093
>  -hsync -vsync
>   xrandr --addmode "2569x1080_66.7"
>   xrandr --output HDMI-0 "2569x1080_66.7"
> 
> using information from your Xorg.0.log
I've already tried this. Now that I can load the proper driver, I tried
it again, and after choosing the created mode using Gnome Display, I
faced a black screen saying "No Signal". 
> 
> >> Which kernel packages ("linux-image*") are installed?
> > linux-image-amd64
> > linux-image-4.5.0-2-amd64
> > linux-image-4.3.0-1-amd64
> > linux-headers-4.5.0-2-amd64
> > linux-headers-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64
> 
> Which one is running?
>   uname -a
Linux debian 4.5.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.5.4-1 (2016-05-16) x86_64
GNU/Linux
> 
> >>
> >> Is there another GPU in your computer (integrated in the CPU or chipset)?
> > No, Just this one. But as I already mentioned in the thread, I was using a
> > GForce gpu before this one.
> 
> May I ask, which CPU you have?
I hope this in not something related to my CPU. 

$ lscpu 
Architecture:  x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:Little Endian
CPU(s):2
On-line CPU(s) list:   0,1
Thread(s) per core:1
Core(s) per socket:2
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s):  1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family:6
Model: 23
Model name:Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300  @ 2.66GHz
Stepping:  6
CPU MHz:   1870.000
CPU max MHz:   2670.
CPU min MHz:   1603.
BogoMIPS:  5332.64
L1d cache: 32K
L1i cache: 32K
L2 cache:  3072K
NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0,1
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm 
constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor 
ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm dtherm

>   aptitude unmarkauto xserver-xorg-video-ati
>   aptitude purge xserver-xorg-video-all
>   aptitude purge '~c'
> 
> The last command purges remains of removed packages.
Still the same.

-- 
Regards,
Mostafa Shahverdy 


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Re: [OT] Re: Consulta sobre proyecto de escaneo corporativo de documentos con software libre

2016-06-02 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:01:20 -0300, Leo Perez escribió:

(corrijo el top-posting y el formato)

> 2016-05-31 12:17 GMT-03:00 Camaleón :
> 
>> El Tue, 31 May 2016 11:39:44 -0300, Leo Perez escribió:
>>
>> > Hola Grupo
>> >
>> > Les consulto, tengo que encarar un proyecto de escaneo de documentos
>> > a nivel corporativo.
>> >
>> > Alguien conoce alguna solución de software libre al respecto?
>>
>> ¿Qué buscas, exactamente? ¿Un programaOCR, una solución de gestión
>> documental (DMS, ECM)...?
>>
>> No he trabajado con ningún sistema de gestión documental y así de oídas
>> recuerdo Alfresco pero quizá sea demasiado para lo que buscas.
>>
>> Echa un vistazo a las opciones de Wikipedia:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems

(...)

> Hola Camaleon.
> 
> No busco OCR. Sino gestionar documentos escaneados como imágenes.
> 
> Que opinas?

Que además del enlace que te puse arriba eches un vistazo a las 
soluciones específicas de gestión documental y aplicaciones 
concretas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_management_system
https://www.google.es/search?q=Document+management+system=utf-8=utf-8=firefox-b_rd=cr=MkBQV6XzFsOs8wf47b7wDA#q=document+management+system+open+source

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón



Re: SOS

2016-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 02 June 2016 09:44:51 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> [CCed, because probably not on list. Perhaps it's just a spam
> trap -- so be it]

He had already had two replies to the same question, which he is here asking 
for the second time, cc'd to his address, which he has ignored.  

 
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAFqwwS7ubTdCQmkbOOS9ATs2EH9akxayeD=fvxfroatp4la...@mail.gmail.com
and
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20160601112243.44f52...@debian7.boseck208.net

> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:21:10AM +0100, john borley wrote:
> > Hi can you help me i’am  trying with out success to get your software off
> > my computer can you please advise me  .thank you mr j borley
>
> Hi, john,
>
> there sure are people on this list willing to help you, but you
> will have to help us help you: which software are you trying to
> get off your computer? How did you get it on your computer in
> the first place?

It got there because his grandson put it there.  (He said last time.).

Lisi
> regards
> - -- tomás
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Re: Compteur de temps d'utilisation

2016-06-02 Thread andre_debian
On Thursday 02 June 2016 15:34:32 Mic Grentz wrote:
> Savez-vous s'il existe un outil sous Linux Debian/Ubuntu afin 
> de connaître le  temps d'utilisation d'un poste de travail ou 
> d'une session ? 
> Un peu comme un chronomètre qu'on stopperait dès que 
> l'utilisateur n'a plus  rien fait (souris, clavier) depuis 2 minutes 
> par exemple. 

La commande :
# who
root pts/0 2016-06-02 10:45 (.)
donne ces infos ci-dessus,

Il y a aussi le fichier /var/log/auth.log

mais cela répond t-il à la question ?

Après, on peut créer un script Bash pour traiter les sessions
et leur durée, ce ne sera pas en temps réel mais instantané.

André



Re: Compteur de temps d'utilisation

2016-06-02 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:34:32 +0200,
Mic Grentz  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Savez-vous s'il existe un outil sous Linux Debian/Ubuntu afin de
> connaître le temps d'utilisation d'un poste de travail ou d'une
> session ?
> 
> Un peu comme un chronomètre qu'on stopperait dès que l'utilisateur
> n'a plus rien fait (souris, clavier) depuis 2 minutes par exemple.
> 

bonjour,

il existe le sablier (chronomètre) avec xfce4, mais je ne sais pas si ça
répond aux exigences ...


slt
bernard



Call for testing: regression update for samba security update (DSA-3548-1)

2016-06-02 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi

The last Samba security update issued as DSA-3548-1 introduced several
upstream regressions, which are addressed in this update.

Before we release the packages we would like to call for additional
testing. The packages can be found on

  https://people.debian.org/~carnil/tmp/samba/jessie

(amd64 builds only; no apt repository available).

If you find new problems introduced by updating to these packages from
the ones which are currently on the security archive
(2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u2), please report the problem directly to
t...@security.debian.org .

Regards,
Salvatore, on behalf of the Debian security team


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Re: [OT] Re: Consulta sobre proyecto de escaneo corporativo de documentos con software libre

2016-06-02 Thread Leo Perez
Hola Camaleon.

No busco OCR. Sino gestionar documentos escaneados como imágenes.

Que opinas?

Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.


2016-05-31 12:17 GMT-03:00 Camaleón :

> El Tue, 31 May 2016 11:39:44 -0300, Leo Perez escribió:
>
> > Hola Grupo
> >
> > Les consulto, tengo que encarar un proyecto de escaneo de documentos a
> > nivel corporativo.
> >
> > Alguien conoce alguna solución de software libre al respecto?
>
> ¿Qué buscas, exactamente? ¿Un programaOCR, una solución de gestión
> documental (DMS, ECM)...?
>
> No he trabajado con ningún sistema de gestión documental y así de oídas
> recuerdo Alfresco pero quizá sea demasiado para lo que buscas.
>
> Echa un vistazo a las opciones de Wikipedia:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems
>
> > Por otro lado, recomiendan algún scanner de cama plana en especial?
>
> Hombre, mejor que tenga alimentador automático o sea específico para
> documentos, con doble cara integrada, etc.. ¿no? :-?
>
> Mucho cuidado con los escáneres en Linux, hay muy pocos soportados al
> 100% (revisa la web de XSane para ver el estado de los drivers, modleos,
> etc...)
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>


Compteur de temps d'utilisation

2016-06-02 Thread Mic Grentz
Bonjour,

Savez-vous s'il existe un outil sous Linux Debian/Ubuntu afin de connaître le 
temps d'utilisation d'un poste de travail ou d'une session ?

Un peu comme un chronomètre qu'on stopperait dès que l'utilisateur n'a plus 
rien fait (souris, clavier) depuis 2 minutes par exemple.

-- 
Mic



Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

2016-06-02 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Mostafa Shahverdy wrote on 06/02/16 14:37:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:38:20AM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>> Mostafa Shahverdy wrote on 06/01/16 21:02:
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 05:04:48PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

 But xserver-xorg-video-radeon would be the right driver to use. Now you're
using
 the much simpler vesa driver.

 The Xorg.0.log file shows that X is searching for the ati driver (package
 xserver-xorg-video-ati) which will then use the radeon driver from the
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon package.
 Try the ati package and if it fails or not, let's look into the contents 
 of the
 Xorg.0.log file of that again.

>>> Well, after some struglings I could make it load Radeon driver, and I
>>> can only get 1920x1080 though. Have a look at my xorg.log again please.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Mostafa,
>>
>> your log file shows that your card ("Chipset") is detected as Radeon HD 5450
>> (driver r600) with VRAM of 921355K and three outputs (HDMI-0, DVI-0, VGA-0).
>> It supports the "detailed timing":
>>  clock: 185.6 MHz   Image Size:  677 x 290 mm
>>  h_active: 2560  h_sync: 2624  h_sync_end 2688 h_blank_end 2784 h_border: 0
>>  v_active: 1080  v_sync: 1083  v_sync_end 1093 v_blanking:  v_border: 0
>>
>> But then it lists "probed modes for output HDMI-0"
>> with maximum "1920x1080"x60.0.
>>
>> The monitor screen resolutions via DDC is supporting "2560x1080 @ 66.7 kHz".
>>
>> Then it says "Allocate new frame buffer 1920x1080 stride 1920".
>>
>> This is somehow confusing for me.
>>
>>
>> What is the output of the command "xrandr" when X is running?
>
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
> HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 677mm x 290mm
>1920x1080 60.00*   50.0059.9430.0029.97
>1920x1080i60.0050.0059.94
>1680x1050 59.88
>1600x900  60.00
>1280x1024 75.0260.02
>1152x864  75.00
>1280x720  60.0050.0059.94
>1024x768  75.0860.00
>800x600   75.0060.32
>720x576   50.00
>720x480   60.0059.94
>640x480   75.0060.0059.94
>720x400   70.08
> DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
>

Yes, this is strange. Did you try to fiddle with the setup of the monitor using
the buttons at the monitor? Something like scaling options?
I have no idea why xrandr doesn't show the native resolution.
The wiki of archlinux is a good documention. See "Adding undetected 
resolutions" on
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions

something like

  xrandr --newmode "2569x1080_66.7" 185.6 2560 2624 2688 2784  1080 1083 1093
 -hsync -vsync
  xrandr --addmode "2569x1080_66.7"
  xrandr --output HDMI-0 "2569x1080_66.7"

using information from your Xorg.0.log

>> Which kernel packages ("linux-image*") are installed?
> linux-image-amd64
> linux-image-4.5.0-2-amd64
> linux-image-4.3.0-1-amd64
> linux-headers-4.5.0-2-amd64
> linux-headers-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64

Which one is running?
  uname -a

>>
>> Is there another GPU in your computer (integrated in the CPU or chipset)?
> No, Just this one. But as I already mentioned in the thread, I was using a
> GForce gpu before this one.

May I ask, which CPU you have?

>> How did you achieve the 1920x1080 setup?
> Just Gnome settings using display option. Also arandr doesn't show a
> better resolution.
>>
>> Side notes:
>> For the moment I would remove every irrelevant xserver-xorg-video package 
>> from
>> the computer with these commands:
>>   apt-mark manual xserver-xorg-video-ati
>>   apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-all
>>
>> Do you have aptitude installed?
> I've tried to remove every possible drivers. Currently I only have
> radeon driver. I have aptitude, but I mostly use apt-get (can it cause
> problems?)

No. It's just that I#m more familiar with aptitude CLI for package management,
then I would have commanded
  aptitude unmarkauto xserver-xorg-video-ati
  aptitude purge xserver-xorg-video-all
  aptitude purge '~c'

The last command purges remains of removed packages.

Regards,
jvp.




Re: Compilar Samba4 + Bind9_DLZ

2016-06-02 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:23:28 -0400, Lic. Manuel Salgado escribió:

> Saludos nuevamente a todos:

¿Por qué abres un hilo nuevo? :-?

> Pues luego de sus acotaciones me he instalado debian 8.4. 

Ah, sí, que tenía Ubuntu...

> Luego de instalar todas los paquetes necesarios para compilar, al
> tratar de compilar Samba 4.4.2, me devuelve lo siguiente:
> /root/samba-4.4.2/source4/lib/tls/wscript:51: error: Building the AD
> DC requires GnuTLS (eg libgnutls-dev, gnutls-devel) for ldaps://
> support and for the BackupKey protocol
> 
> y resulta que al buscar este paquete no existe. Alguna sugerencia por
> favor.

Lo que te pide es el paquete de desarrollo de GnuTLS, que puede tener 
distintos nombres según la distribución linuxera que uses. Entiendo que 
debe ser "libgnutls28-dev".

Saludos,

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Re: What can AppArmor do?

2016-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett

On 5/18/2016 9:23 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/apparmor is uninformative.
[snip]
There is a link to http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Main_Page
which gives no hints!



http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/AppArmor:About has been updated.




SCL ce soir, PSL le 4, inscriptions JdL Vincennes du 11

2016-06-02 Thread S L
Bonjour !

Ces événements ont tous lieu en Île-de-France, mais n'y voyez aucun
parisiano-centrisme de ma part.

02/06 SCL 
http://www.parinux.org/content/soiree-de-contribution-au-libre-du-2-juin-2016

04/06 PSL http://premier-samedi.org/

11/06 JdL 6e Journée du Libre à l'EFM de Vincennes

http://www.parinux.org/content/6e-journee-du-libre-vincennes

http://bn.parinux.org/p/2016.06.11.VINCENNES

Si vous pouvez et voulez venir samedi 11 juin, merci de vous inscrire
sur le pad et si possible de prévenir l'Espace de Formation au
Multimédia de Vincennes (qui a investi en imprimante 3D Dagoma,
Raspberry, Arduino). Vous pourrez installer votre distro GNU/Linux
favorite pour changer de celle en U, animer un comptoir associatif,
une mini conférence, un atelier, ou donner de la doc' et des goodies
libristes. C'est un événement grand public.

Merci et à bientôt

PS : le courriel de l'EFM

Le 1 juin 2016 à 23:50, Grégoire Babiaud  a écrit :
> Bonjour Stéphane
> Je reviens vers toi concernant notre prochaine journée du Libre le 11 juin.
> Penses tu pouvoir rassembler suffisamment de bonnes volontés pour l'install 
> party?
> Merci à toi
> Bien cordialement
> Grégoire Babiaud
> Responsable informatique
> Réseau des médiathèques de Vincennes
> 0143986847
> gbabi...@vincennes.fr

---



Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

2016-06-02 Thread Mostafa Shahverdy
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:38:20AM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Mostafa Shahverdy wrote on 06/01/16 21:02:
> > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 05:04:48PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> >>
> >> But xserver-xorg-video-radeon would be the right driver to use. Now you're 
> >> using
> >> the much simpler vesa driver.
> >>
> >> The Xorg.0.log file shows that X is searching for the ati driver (package
> >> xserver-xorg-video-ati) which will then use the radeon driver from the
> >> xserver-xorg-video-radeon package.
> >> Try the ati package and if it fails or not, let's look into the contents 
> >> of the
> >> Xorg.0.log file of that again.
> >>
> > Well, after some struglings I could make it load Radeon driver, and I
> > can only get 1920x1080 though. Have a look at my xorg.log again please. 
> > 
> 
> Hi Mostafa,
> 
> your log file shows that your card ("Chipset") is detected as Radeon HD 5450
> (driver r600) with VRAM of 921355K and three outputs (HDMI-0, DVI-0, VGA-0).
> It supports the "detailed timing":
>  clock: 185.6 MHz   Image Size:  677 x 290 mm
>  h_active: 2560  h_sync: 2624  h_sync_end 2688 h_blank_end 2784 h_border: 0
>  v_active: 1080  v_sync: 1083  v_sync_end 1093 v_blanking:  v_border: 0
> 
> But then it lists "probed modes for output HDMI-0"
> with maximum "1920x1080"x60.0.
> 
> The monitor screen resolutions via DDC is supporting "2560x1080 @ 66.7 kHz".
> 
> Then it says "Allocate new frame buffer 1920x1080 stride 1920".
> 
> This is somehow confusing for me.
> 
> 
> What is the output of the command "xrandr" when X is running?

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
axis) 677mm x 290mm
   1920x1080 60.00*   50.0059.9430.0029.97  
   1920x1080i60.0050.0059.94  
   1680x1050 59.88  
   1600x900  60.00  
   1280x1024 75.0260.02  
   1152x864  75.00  
   1280x720  60.0050.0059.94  
   1024x768  75.0860.00  
   800x600   75.0060.32  
   720x576   50.00  
   720x480   60.0059.94  
   640x480   75.0060.0059.94  
   720x400   70.08  
DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

> 
> Which kernel packages ("linux-image*") are installed?
linux-image-amd64
linux-image-4.5.0-2-amd64
linux-image-4.3.0-1-amd64
linux-headers-4.5.0-2-amd64
linux-headers-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64
> 
> Is there another GPU in your computer (integrated in the CPU or chipset)?
No, Just this one. But as I already mentioned in the thread, I was using a
GForce gpu before this one.
> 
> How did you achieve the 1920x1080 setup?
Just Gnome settings using display option. Also arandr doesn't show a
better resolution.
> 
> Side notes:
> For the moment I would remove every irrelevant xserver-xorg-video package from
> the computer with these commands:
>   apt-mark manual xserver-xorg-video-ati
>   apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-all
> 
> Do you have aptitude installed?
I've tried to remove every possible drivers. Currently I only have
radeon driver. I have aptitude, but I mostly use apt-get (can it cause
problems?)
> 
> Regards,
> jvp.
> 

-- 
Regards,
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Re: Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread didier gaumet
Le 02/06/2016 12:31, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> bonjour,
> 
> j'a   i un ami qui souhaiterai employer un "ail"-phone comme modem
> USB, est ce possible ?
[...]

Avec network-manager et un smartphone Androïd paramétré pour partager sa
connexion via USB, il n'y a strictement rien à faire: network-manager te
connecte automatiquement. Je suppose que c'est exactement la même chose
avec un Iphone...




Re: bash_history_root borrado/reinicio

2016-06-02 Thread franiortiz hotmail
Hola a todos,
aportando algo sobre el tema 
con el tiempo me he dado cuenta de que casi siempre tengo una 
pestaña-consola (en lxterminal o konsole) con un 
"tail -f /var/log/messages -f /var/log/syslog -f /var/log/auth.log -f 
/var/log/dmesg -f /var/log/faillog -f /var/mail/usu -f /var/log/daemon.log -f 
/var/log/clamav/freshclam.log"
el tema es que si  cierro el tail con ctrl+c no hay problema 
pero si cierro la consola con todas las pestañas de golpe, "clicando en la x" 
al siguiente reinicio el bash_history de root esta vacio.
 mi bashrc de root:

~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.

# Note: PS1 and umask are already set in /etc/profile. You should not
# need this unless you want different defaults for root.
# PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\h:\w\$ '
# umask 022

# You may uncomment the following lines if you want `ls' to be colorized:
# export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto'
# eval "`dircolors`"
# alias ls='ls $LS_OPTIONS'
# alias ll='ls $LS_OPTIONS -l'
# alias l='ls $LS_OPTIONS -lA'
#
# Some more alias to avoid making mistakes:
# alias rm='rm -i'
# alias cp='cp -i'
# alias mv='mv -i'

Quiza no tenga que ver y sea casualidad, pero yo diria que por ahi andan los 
tiros.
un saludete


De: franiortiz hotmail 
Enviado: miércoles, 3 de febrero de 2016 10:30
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: bash_history_root borrado/reinicio

No me había fijado en el mar de emails,

Exactamente eso es lo que ocurre, en un reinicio cualquiera, aparece (como 
siempre), pero vacio, 0 bytes, perdiendo todos mis comandos.
Por lo que he entendido en los links parece un problema de permisos.
Pego todos mis bashrc
bashrc para root   :   http://paste.debian.net/378286
bashrc para user :   http://paste.debian.net/378287

man bash -->wow , menuda cantidad de informacion, gracias

Para la próxima en vez de sustituir el archivo vacío, por la copia.
Como root voy a editar el vacío y rellenarlo, a ver si así,,  jajajaja.

gracias a todos

De: listascor...@msjs.co 
Enviado: martes, 2 de febrero de 2016 13:44
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: bash_history_root borrado/reinicio

El 02/02/16 a las 05:52, fernando sainz escribió:
> El día 2 de febrero de 2016, 11:18, franiortiz hotmail
>  escribió:
>> Hola
>>
>> Hace un tiempo me ocurre, aleatoriamente no siempre, que al encender la
>> maquina, el .bash_history de root esta vacio, uso jessie.
>>
>> $ uname -a
>> Linux debiamd64 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3
>> (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>>
>> Por suerte tengo un script de inicio en "/etc/cron.daily/script" , en el
>> cual una linea es:
>>
>> cp /root/.bash_history /home/bash/bash.root.txt . Pero no deja de ser
>> molesto
>>
>>
>> A alguien mas le ha pasado?
>>
>> Podría ser, de algun modo, la linea del script en cron.daily?
>>
>>
>> Por cierto con el bash_history del usuario sin problemas y tiene una linea
>> igual en el mismo script de cron.
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>
> Hola.
> No dices que terminal usas. He leído algo de problemas con el terminal de 
> gnome.
>
> En cualquier caso puedes ver en el man de bash las opciones de history
> (-a en partitular) que hace que cada comando que se ejecute se guarde
> inmediatamente en el .bash_history.
>
> Echa un vistazo a esta página a ver si es algo parecido:
>  http://superuser.com/questions/20900/bash-history-loss
>
>
> S2.
>
Copia y pega aquí http://paste.debian.net/ el contenido de su
/root/.bashrc y /home/usuario/.bashrc

Saludos;



Re: GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

2016-06-02 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 02.06.2016 um 12:20 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> > AFAIK, synaptics can do tap-to-click too. Perhaps it needs some
> 
> [snip]
> 
> You can of course still configure synaptics manually. That will continue
> to work.

...which I'm happy to do (I'm not the OP, just wanted to hint at this
possibility).

> With GNOME 3.20 support for non-libinput configurations has been dropped
> from gnome-control-center. So if you want to configure your touchpad
> (and mouse) settings, you'll need xserver-xorg-input-libinput [1].

Thanks for the information. I'm definitely not in Gnome's target
group (haven't been for long), but good to know.

regards
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Re: GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

2016-06-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.06.2016 um 12:20 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> AFAIK, synaptics can do tap-to-click too. Perhaps it needs some

[snip]

You can of course still configure synaptics manually. That will continue
to work.

With GNOME 3.20 support for non-libinput configurations has been dropped
from gnome-control-center. So if you want to configure your touchpad
(and mouse) settings, you'll need xserver-xorg-input-libinput [1].

Unfortunately the synaptics package in Debian was changed to have a
higher priority then libinput [2]. So if you have
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed you can't configure your touchpad
in gnome-control-center atm.

This situation is unfortunate, but we are aware of it and hope to figure
something out for stretch.


Regards,
Michael


[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=821354#15
[2]
https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/news/20160526T174718Z.html
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Iphone et linux

2016-06-02 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour,

j'a i un ami qui souhaiterai employer un "ail"-phone comme modem
USB, est ce possible ?

l'installation est toute fraiche avec un noyau 4.5 

quelles sont les précautions à prendre pour y arriver ?

la seule chose que j'ai trouvé c'est un courriel de pascal hambourg

et un paquet que je n'ai pas installé du fait que je ne savais pas
qu'il possédait un "ordiphone privateur"

paquet touvé suite à une recherche :
https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/ipheth-utils

en faut il d'autres ?


slt
bernard



Re: GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

2016-06-02 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 12:06:50PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 02.06.2016 um 11:43 schrieb Francois Gouget:
> > 
> > Since the upgrade to GNOME 3.20.1 I lost tap-to-click in GNOME.
> > I cannot reestablish it in gnome-control-center as that only offers to 
> > switch the left and right buttons.
> 
> 
> > Does anyone know of a workaround to that?
> > 
> > Note that:
> > * xserver-xorg-input-libinput is installed.
> 
> Do you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed? If that driver is
> available it takes precedence over libinput
> See /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
> 
> Uninstalling xserver-xorg-input-synaptics should make sure libinput is
> used and should give you tap-to-click back.

AFAIK, synaptics can do tap-to-click too. Perhaps it needs some
configuration, though. This is from my /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

  Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "the-touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.5"
Option "MaxSpeed" "2.5"
Option "CornerCoasting" "on"
Option "CoastingSpeed" "10"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "2"
Option "TapButton3" "3"
Option "TapAndDragGesture" "on"
  EndSection

(it's the configurability why I stay with synaptics: "thou shalt stay
away from the knobs" isn't a philosophy which suits me :)

regards
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Re: GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

2016-06-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.06.2016 um 11:43 schrieb Francois Gouget:
> 
> Since the upgrade to GNOME 3.20.1 I lost tap-to-click in GNOME.
> I cannot reestablish it in gnome-control-center as that only offers to 
> switch the left and right buttons.


> Does anyone know of a workaround to that?
> 
> Note that:
> * xserver-xorg-input-libinput is installed.

Do you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed? If that driver is
available it takes precedence over libinput
See /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/

Uninstalling xserver-xorg-input-synaptics should make sure libinput is
used and should give you tap-to-click back.

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Re: gathering system information

2016-06-02 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Maybe this article in the Linux Journal helps your quest:
"What's in the Box? Interrogate Your Linux Machine's Hardware"
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/whats-box-interrogate-your-linux-machines-hardware

Regards,
jvp.




Re: dphys-swapfile why don't us fallocate to create swapfile

2016-06-02 Thread Till Smejkal
On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 at 17:51, basti  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > on a low voltage cpu system I can see that the creation of an 1 GB swap
> > file can take several minutes. (The file-system is on SD-card which
> > write about 6-7 MB/s).
> >
> > As I see fallocate can do this job much faster, so why you don't use this?
> >
> > fallocate is also part of the util-linux package which essential in debian.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > basti
> >
> > Why don't we use it? We don't use it because we are a user group, not
> application developers. The clue was in the group name...



GNOME 3.20 dropped support for tap-to-click?

2016-06-02 Thread Francois Gouget

Since the upgrade to GNOME 3.20.1 I lost tap-to-click in GNOME.
I cannot reestablish it in gnome-control-center as that only offers to 
switch the left and right buttons.

Does anyone know of a workaround to that?

Note that:
* xserver-xorg-input-libinput is installed.

* Tap-to-click still works in gdm3. See bug 731439:
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731429

* However the same command I used for bug 731439 has no effect in my 
  GNOME session. That is:
  gdm gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-to-click true
  has no effect

* I also tried the following command with values 1 through 12 with no 
  result:
  xinput set-prop "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" "Synaptics Tap Action" 1
  ('ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad' is the name of my touchpad btw)

* I did not find anything related to tap-to-click in gnome-tweak-tools.


-- 
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1 + e ^ ( i * pi ) = 0



Re: dphys-swapfile why don't us fallocate to create swapfile

2016-06-02 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 at 17:51, basti  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> on a low voltage cpu system I can see that the creation of an 1 GB swap
> file can take several minutes. (The file-system is on SD-card which
> write about 6-7 MB/s).
>
> As I see fallocate can do this job much faster, so why you don't use this?
>
> fallocate is also part of the util-linux package which essential in debian.
>
> Best Regards,
> basti
>
> Why don't we use it? We don't use it because we are a user group, not
application developers. The clue was in the group name...


Hmm, XFCE won't start after upgrade

2016-06-02 Thread Anthony Papillion
I downloaded the latest stable, did an upgrade, then replaced my stake trips 
with testing and did another upgrade. After that, XFCE went back to its first 
run state:  asking me how I want the panel configured, etc. It also wiped out 
all of my configuration data (in Pidgin, for example). 

Lastly, XFCE doesn't start on its own. I have to log in via the console then 
manually start XFCE with the startx command. Any ideas what might have 
happened? I've not gone through life hey but I plan on this tomorrow but I'm 
hoping someone might have a quick answer. 

Thanks,
Anthony

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Re: gathering system information

2016-06-02 Thread Ivan Jurišić
Try get information with inxi package: 

apt-get install inxi
inxi -F 

Dana 02.06.2016 08:06, kamaraju kusumanchi je napisao(la):

> I am planning to develop a script that gathers all the _relevant_
> system information for common configuration tasks such as sound,
> graphics, wireless, network, printer etc.
> 
> Here is a proof of concept
> https://gitlab.com/d3k2mk7/rutils/blob/master/debian_user/gather_system_info.py
> which gathers information related to the sound task such as sound card
> information, kernel modules loaded, debian version, kernel version
> etc.,  Appendix shows a sample run on my system.
> 
> Similar things can be done for other tasks. For example, to address X
> related issues, the script may parse Xorg.0.log for relevant errors,
> show what graphics driver packages are installed, show information on
> the graphics adapter etc.,
> 
> The general idea is that if a user is having trouble configuring these
> tasks (ex:- sound/printer does not work), he can simply copy paste the
> output of this single script in the email to debian-user mailing list
> as opposed to gathering everything manually.
> 
> What do you think? Is it a useful/stupid idea? Any
> feedback/comments/criticism are greatly appreciated (no matter how
> small you think they are).
> 
> thanks
> raju
> 
> Appendix:
> % python3 gather_system_info.py
> lspci -nnk | grep -i audio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family)
> HD Audio Controller [8086:3a3e]
> 
> lsmod | grep snd
> snd_usb_audio 135354  1
> snd_usbmidi_lib23347  1 snd_usb_audio
> snd_rawmidi26806  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
> snd_seq_device 13132  1 snd_rawmidi
> snd_hda_codec_analog13795  1
> snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_analog
> snd_hda_intel  26327  3
> snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_codec 104500  4
> snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller,snd_hda_codec_analog
> snd_hwdep  13148  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm_oss44798  0
> snd_mixer_oss  22042  1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_pcm88662  5
> snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_timer  26627  1 snd_pcm
> snd65244  21
> snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_analog
> soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
> usbcore   195468  8
> uhci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,usb_storage,snd_usbmidi_lib,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid
> 
> # contents of  /etc/apt/sources.list
> deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
> deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib 
> non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> uname -a
> Linux hogwarts 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4
> (2016-02-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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dphys-swapfile why don't us fallocate to create swapfile

2016-06-02 Thread basti
Hello,

on a low voltage cpu system I can see that the creation of an 1 GB swap
file can take several minutes. (The file-system is on SD-card which
write about 6-7 MB/s).

As I see fallocate can do this job much faster, so why you don't use this?

fallocate is also part of the util-linux package which essential in debian.

Best Regards,
basti



Verification of (xen) netboot images

2016-06-02 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Hi all,

I'd like to use netboot images to install Debian VMs on a (Debian) Xen host.

The copies on

http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/

differ from those on

http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/

and I've not been able to find a way to verify these images. No signed
checksum files for example such as those available for ISO images.

Why would these two mirrors not have the same files?

How can I verify these images before using them?

I am mistaken to think these netboot images are part of the official
debian installer?

kind regards,
Jan




Re: SOS

2016-06-02 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:21:10AM +0100, john borley wrote:
> Hi can you help me i’am  trying with out success to get your software off
> my computer can you please advise me  .thank you mr j borley

Hi, john,

there sure are people on this list willing to help you, but you
will have to help us help you: which software are you trying to
get off your computer? How did you get it on your computer in
the first place?

regards
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Re: gathering system information

2016-06-02 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 10:30:33AM +0200, hdv@gmail wrote:
> On 2016-06-02 08:06, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> > I am planning to develop a script that gathers all the _relevant_
> > system information for common configuration tasks such as sound,
> > graphics, wireless, network, printer etc.
> > 
> > Here is a proof of concept
> > https://gitlab.com/d3k2mk7/rutils/blob/master/debian_user/gather_system_info.py
> > which gathers information related to the sound task such as sound card
> > information, kernel modules loaded, debian version, kernel version
> > etc.,  Appendix shows a sample run on my system.
> > 
> > Similar things can be done for other tasks. For example, to address X
> > related issues, the script may parse Xorg.0.log for relevant errors,
> > show what graphics driver packages are installed, show information on
> > the graphics adapter etc.,
> > 
> > The general idea is that if a user is having trouble configuring these
> > tasks (ex:- sound/printer does not work), he can simply copy paste the
> > output of this single script in the email to debian-user mailing list
> > as opposed to gathering everything manually.
> > 
> > What do you think? Is it a useful/stupid idea? Any
> > feedback/comments/criticism are greatly appreciated (no matter how
> > small you think they are).
> 
> Part of what you want was already done by Karsten M. Self. I remember using a
> shell script by him in around 2002. You might try Google if you can find a 
> copy
> of that script. I think it was called systeminfo.

Then there is Isenkram [1], by Petter Reinholdtsen. It strives for
desktop integration, thus it might have tons of dependencies, which
you might want or want not... but it sure is a source of inspiration.
There's much to learn from Petter, I think

regards

[1] 
http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Isenkram_with_PackageKit_support___new_version_0_23_available_in_Debian_unstable.html

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SOS

2016-06-02 Thread john borley
Hi can you help me i’am  trying with out success to get your software off
my computer can you please advise me  .thank you mr j borley


Re: gathering system information

2016-06-02 Thread hdv
On 2016-06-02 08:06, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> I am planning to develop a script that gathers all the _relevant_
> system information for common configuration tasks such as sound,
> graphics, wireless, network, printer etc.
> 
> Here is a proof of concept
> https://gitlab.com/d3k2mk7/rutils/blob/master/debian_user/gather_system_info.py
> which gathers information related to the sound task such as sound card
> information, kernel modules loaded, debian version, kernel version
> etc.,  Appendix shows a sample run on my system.
> 
> Similar things can be done for other tasks. For example, to address X
> related issues, the script may parse Xorg.0.log for relevant errors,
> show what graphics driver packages are installed, show information on
> the graphics adapter etc.,
> 
> The general idea is that if a user is having trouble configuring these
> tasks (ex:- sound/printer does not work), he can simply copy paste the
> output of this single script in the email to debian-user mailing list
> as opposed to gathering everything manually.
> 
> What do you think? Is it a useful/stupid idea? Any
> feedback/comments/criticism are greatly appreciated (no matter how
> small you think they are).

Part of what you want was already done by Karsten M. Self. I remember using a
shell script by him in around 2002. You might try Google if you can find a copy
of that script. I think it was called systeminfo.

Grx HdV




gathering system information

2016-06-02 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
I am planning to develop a script that gathers all the _relevant_
system information for common configuration tasks such as sound,
graphics, wireless, network, printer etc.

Here is a proof of concept
https://gitlab.com/d3k2mk7/rutils/blob/master/debian_user/gather_system_info.py
which gathers information related to the sound task such as sound card
information, kernel modules loaded, debian version, kernel version
etc.,  Appendix shows a sample run on my system.

Similar things can be done for other tasks. For example, to address X
related issues, the script may parse Xorg.0.log for relevant errors,
show what graphics driver packages are installed, show information on
the graphics adapter etc.,

The general idea is that if a user is having trouble configuring these
tasks (ex:- sound/printer does not work), he can simply copy paste the
output of this single script in the email to debian-user mailing list
as opposed to gathering everything manually.

What do you think? Is it a useful/stupid idea? Any
feedback/comments/criticism are greatly appreciated (no matter how
small you think they are).

thanks
raju

Appendix:
% python3 gather_system_info.py
lspci -nnk | grep -i audio
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family)
HD Audio Controller [8086:3a3e]

lsmod | grep snd
snd_usb_audio 135354  1
snd_usbmidi_lib23347  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi26806  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_seq_device 13132  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_hda_codec_analog13795  1
snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_analog
snd_hda_intel  26327  3
snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 104500  4
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller,snd_hda_codec_analog
snd_hwdep  13148  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss44798  0
snd_mixer_oss  22042  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm88662  5
snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26627  1 snd_pcm
snd65244  21
snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_analog
soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
usbcore   195468  8
uhci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,usb_storage,snd_usbmidi_lib,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid


# contents of  /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

uname -a
Linux hogwarts 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4
(2016-02-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux


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