Re: Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

2017-01-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge
I'm no expert, but I wonder if the book is resuming from hibernate in the
state it was at hibernate. If so, the system thinks the screen is off.


On the issue of power saving,  my battery lasts about 15 minutes when
working. In suspend it sits there for several days.  I don't know how much
more power you are saving with hibernate.

Keith Bainbridge

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keithrbaugro...@gmail.com

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On 6 Jan 2017 16:55, "solitone"  wrote:

> On Friday, January 6, 2017 11:11:45 AM CET Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > Ummm, why turn the monitor off first?
>
> I use KDE's power management tool to e.g. dim the screen after 5 minutes,
> switch the screen off after 10 mins, suspend to RAM after 20 mins, and
> hibernate to disk when I close the lid.
>
> If I leave the computer inactive for more than 10 minutes and then I close
> the
> lid, the system will hibernate. When I resume it, the monitor will be
> switched
> off at the end of the resume process.
>
> > I use suspend rather than hibernate, on a macbook 4,1 and just close the
> > lid.
>
> Yes, but I'd rather take advantage of all the energy saving options that
> are
> available. Booting up is so quick on a MacBookPro 12,1 that you may well
> use
> hibernate rather than suspend, and resume the system in few seconds.
>
>


Re: Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

2017-01-05 Thread solitone
On Friday, January 6, 2017 11:11:45 AM CET Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> Ummm, why turn the monitor off first?

I use KDE's power management tool to e.g. dim the screen after 5 minutes, 
switch the screen off after 10 mins, suspend to RAM after 20 mins, and 
hibernate to disk when I close the lid.

If I leave the computer inactive for more than 10 minutes and then I close the 
lid, the system will hibernate. When I resume it, the monitor will be switched 
off at the end of the resume process.

> I use suspend rather than hibernate, on a macbook 4,1 and just close the
> lid. 

Yes, but I'd rather take advantage of all the energy saving options that are 
available. Booting up is so quick on a MacBookPro 12,1 that you may well use 
hibernate rather than suspend, and resume the system in few seconds.



Re: Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

2017-01-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Please see below

Keith Bainbridge

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On 6 Jan 2017 12:58, "David Wright"  wrote:

On Fri 06 Jan 2017 at 11:11:45 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> Ummm, why turn the monitor off first?

Perhaps because Davide doesn't want to wait 30 mins¹ before
closing the lid and finding out if the problem still recurs.



Not my case.  The book simply suspends when the lid is closed.


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Re: Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

2017-01-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 06 Jan 2017 at 11:11:45 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> Ummm, why turn the monitor off first?

Perhaps because Davide doesn't want to wait 30 mins¹ before
closing the lid and finding out if the problem still recurs.

> I use suspend rather than hibernate, on a macbook 4,1 and just close the
> lid.  I get a password screen as soon as I open up.

So would that be using more power both when the lid is closed,
and also when the lid is left open for prolonged periods?

¹ I used to specify 10/20/30 minutes for stand-by/suspend/off
when I ran real CRT monitors.

> On 6 Jan 2017 08:04, "solitone"  wrote:
> 
> > I'm on debian stretch, and my computer is a MacBookPro 12,1. I've recently
> > noticed an issue that affect my system when it hibernates.
> >
> > When the screen is already switched off and then the system hibernates, it
> > won't resume correctly later on. Specifically, the monitor will be
> > switched off
> > again at the end of the resume process.
> >
> > E.g. I give the following command in order to switch off the monitor:
> >
> > $ sleep 1 && xset dpms force off
> >
> > then I close the lid so that my system hibernates. Then I resume the
> > system.
> > The monitors turns on, as I see the boot loader screen and some boot
> > messages.
> > But then, when the resume is complete, the screen is switched off again,
> > and
> > there is no way to turn it on. The only solution is press the power button
> > to
> > turn off the entire computer.
> >
> > I get the same issue even when, instead of using the xset command, I wait
> > several minutes so that the screen is switched off automatically by KDE's
> > power management, and then I hibernate the system.
> >
> > By contrast, I have no issue if I hibernate when the screen is still on.
> > The
> > resume works perfectly well. Besides, suspend (to RAM) has no issue either,
> > both when the screen is on and when it is off.
> >
> > I've already reported a bug to the mainteiners of debian kernel. But in the
> > meanwhile, as a workaround I'm thinking of using a systemd script that
> > forces
> > the monitor on just before the system starts hibernating. I've tried with
> > "xset dpms force on", however it won't in fact turn on the monitor. Is
> > there a
> > way to do this?

Do you perhaps need

xset -display  dpms force on

in the systemd script?

Cheers,
David.



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Biebl  wrote:

>> [2] Once, for a customer: inserting the right storage medium (with
>>the right UUID) triggered a system backup.

> Please don't do that. udev is a not a service manager and starting (long
> running) tasks from a udev rule is bad.

I wish someone would clue in Dell into that.

> See also the udev man page:

> Starting daemons or other long-running processes is not appropriate
> for udev; the forked processes, detached or not, will be
> unconditionally killed after the event handling has finished.

Dell includes a udev-rule in its ISM-Packages for iDRAC like this:

,
| # Dell USBNIC Device
| SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="413c", ATTR{idProduct}=="a102", 
ATTR{manufacturer}=="Dell(TM)", ACTION=="add", RUN+="/etc/init.d/dcismeng start 
&"
`

The idea is to start the iSM-Daemon once the idrac-usb-network device is
detected. But because of the problem you mention this fails horribly and
causes a 30 second delay during boot if used with systemd.

Urgh.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> But, it all changes if you replace conventional bridge with
> openvswitch, which *can* add new interfaces (ports as they call it) to
> its own bridges dynamically *and* it can be configured via interfaces(5).

Interesting.  Would it work if the IP address of the bridge is acquired
dynamically via DHCP?

E.g. at boot, the bridge contains only eth0, but it can't get an IP
address because there's no DHCP server on that network (or maybe eth0
is not even connected to anything yet).

Later, someone connects an ethernet dongle that appears as usb0 and that
one should be added to br0 and since it is connected to a network that
has a DHCP server, I'd want the br0 to acquire an IP at that moment.


Stefan



Re: Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

2017-01-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Ummm, why turn the monitor off first?

I use suspend rather than hibernate, on a macbook 4,1 and just close the
lid.  I get a password screen as soon as I open up.

Keith Bainbridge

0447667468

keithrbaugro...@gmail.com

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On 6 Jan 2017 08:04, "solitone"  wrote:

> I'm on debian stretch, and my computer is a MacBookPro 12,1. I've recently
> noticed an issue that affect my system when it hibernates.
>
> When the screen is already switched off and then the system hibernates, it
> won't resume correctly later on. Specifically, the monitor will be
> switched off
> again at the end of the resume process.
>
> E.g. I give the following command in order to switch off the monitor:
>
> $ sleep 1 && xset dpms force off
>
> then I close the lid so that my system hibernates. Then I resume the
> system.
> The monitors turns on, as I see the boot loader screen and some boot
> messages.
> But then, when the resume is complete, the screen is switched off again,
> and
> there is no way to turn it on. The only solution is press the power button
> to
> turn off the entire computer.
>
> I get the same issue even when, instead of using the xset command, I wait
> several minutes so that the screen is switched off automatically by KDE's
> power management, and then I hibernate the system.
>
> By contrast, I have no issue if I hibernate when the screen is still on.
> The
> resume works perfectly well. Besides, suspend (to RAM) has no issue either,
> both when the screen is on and when it is off.
>
> I've already reported a bug to the mainteiners of debian kernel. But in the
> meanwhile, as a workaround I'm thinking of using a systemd script that
> forces
> the monitor on just before the system starts hibernating. I've tried with
> "xset dpms force on", however it won't in fact turn on the monitor. Is
> there a
> way to do this?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>   Davide
>
>


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Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:17:23 +0100
Pascal Hambourg  wrote:

> > Bridged interfaces retain their MACs, so they would get different IPv6
> > ULAs, which are provided by radvd from the different host.
> 
> Not if they are bridged before they are brought UP 

I'm not that familiar with openvswitch to make claims about the order
in which an interface brought up and bridged.

If you have such knowledge then feel free to share it with the list
please.

> or accept_ra/autoconf is disabled.

Disabling it is the whole point.


> > And get myself all kinds of unneeded trouble, or I can do:
> >
> > allow-br0 eth0
> > iface eth0 inet6 auto
> > autoconf 0
> > accept_ra 0
> > ovs_type OVSPort
> > ovs_bridge br0
> 
> Ok, THIS, provides the missing info from your previous post : disable 
> autoconf and accept_ra.
> 
> But according to man interfaces(5), the inet6 "auto" method ignores the 
> "autoconf" option. This option is specific to the "static" method.

Indeed. Thanks for the correction.

Reco



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 05/01/2017 à 22:17, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :


But according to man interfaces(5), the inet6 "auto" method ignores the
"autoconf" option. This option is specific to the "static" method.


And "dhcp".



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 05/01/2017 à 17:32, Reco a écrit :


Joshua Schaeffer  wrote:


A sample configuration would be:

allow-ovs br0
iface br0 inet4 static
address …
netmask …
ovs_type OVSBridge

allow-br0 eth0
iface eth0 inet6 auto
ovs_type OVSPort
ovs_bridge br0

allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet6 auto
ovs_type OVSPort
ovs_bridge br0


Pardon my ignorance, can you explain why you set an IPv4 address on your
bridge and an IPv6 address on your bridge interfaces?


I wondered the same.


It's simple, although isn't obvious from this abridged example.


No it's not.


I need a single IPv4 for both interfaces, so I set it on a bridge.
I don't need distinct IPv4 on ports, so I don't set it there.


This has nothing to do with IPv6 config.


Bridged interfaces retain their MACs, so they would get different IPv6
ULAs, which are provided by radvd from the different host.


Not if they are bridged before they are brought UP or accept_ra/autoconf 
is disabled.



And get myself all kinds of unneeded trouble, or I can do:

allow-br0 eth0
iface eth0 inet6 auto
autoconf 0
accept_ra 0
ovs_type OVSPort
ovs_bridge br0


Ok, THIS, provides the missing info from your previous post : disable 
autoconf and accept_ra.


But according to man interfaces(5), the inet6 "auto" method ignores the 
"autoconf" option. This option is specific to the "static" method.




Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

2017-01-05 Thread solitone
I'm on debian stretch, and my computer is a MacBookPro 12,1. I've recently 
noticed an issue that affect my system when it hibernates. 

When the screen is already switched off and then the system hibernates, it 
won't resume correctly later on. Specifically, the monitor will be switched off 
again at the end of the resume process.

E.g. I give the following command in order to switch off the monitor:

$ sleep 1 && xset dpms force off

then I close the lid so that my system hibernates. Then I resume the system. 
The monitors turns on, as I see the boot loader screen and some boot messages. 
But then, when the resume is complete, the screen is switched off again, and 
there is no way to turn it on. The only solution is press the power button to 
turn off the entire computer.

I get the same issue even when, instead of using the xset command, I wait 
several minutes so that the screen is switched off automatically by KDE's 
power management, and then I hibernate the system.

By contrast, I have no issue if I hibernate when the screen is still on. The 
resume works perfectly well. Besides, suspend (to RAM) has no issue either, 
both when the screen is on and when it is off. 

I've already reported a bug to the mainteiners of debian kernel. But in the 
meanwhile, as a workaround I'm thinking of using a systemd script that forces 
the monitor on just before the system starts hibernating. I've tried with 
"xset dpms force on", however it won't in fact turn on the monitor. Is there a 
way to do this?

Thanks & Regards,
  Davide



Re: OT: Pelo Fim da Carta de Contribuição Assistencial aos não associados

2017-01-05 Thread Fred Maranhão
2017-01-05 11:08 GMT-03:00 Paulo Correia :
>
> Thiago,
>
>
> OT, normalmente significa Off Topic.
>

este é o significado. mas espera-se que...

quer saber... foda-se. vou ficar argumentando com spammer não.

vou só entrar aqui
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/2017/01/msg2.html
clicar em 'report as spam' e pronto.

>
> A ligação seria que como o Debian tem relação a informática, e normalmente 
> quem trabalha com informática está ligado a algum sindicato e este sindicato 
> na maioria das vezes é o SINDPD.
>



>
> Mas outros sindicatos também pedem esta carta absurda (Ex: Comerciários).
>
>
> Seria um aviso a todos, para brigarem com seus respectivos sindicatos pelo 
> fim desta carta absurda, ou que entrem em contato com o Ministério Público 
> para que o mesmo estipule uma multa ao sindicato por exigir esta carta aos 
> não filiados.
>
>
> Att,
>
> Paulo Correia
>
>
>
> 
> De: Thiago Canuto Ferreira 
> Enviado: quinta-feira, 5 de janeiro de 2017 10:51
> Para: Paulo Correia
> Cc: Debian-User
> Assunto: Re: OT: Pelo Fim da Carta de Contribuição Assistencial aos não 
> associados
>
> Bom dia Paulo
>
> Qual a ligação deste assunto ao Debian?
>
>
> Thiago C. F.
>
> Em Qui, 2017-01-05 às 12:10 +, Paulo Correia escreveu:
> > Não é de hoje que o SINDPD SP vem pedindo que faça uma carta e
> > enfrente uma fila absurda para fazer uma carta aos não filiados para
> > que os mesmos não sejam cobrados da contribuição assistencial.
> >
> > Isto não existe e é uma inversão de valores, segundo os links abaixo:
> > http://www.trtsp.jus.br/indice-de-noticias-ultimas-noticias/2989-12-turma-indevido-desconto-de-contribuicao-assistencial-de-trabalhador-nao-sindicalizado
> 12ª Turma: indevido desconto de contribuição assistencial ...
> www.trtsp.jus.br
> Em acórdão da 12ª Turma do Tribunal Regional do Trabalho da 2ª Região (SP), o 
> desembargador Benedito Valentini entendeu que fere direito à liberdade de ...
>
> >
> > https://www.totvs.com/mktfiles/tdiportais/helponlineprotheus/portuguese/sigagpe_bra_contribuicao_assistencial.htm
> Contribuição Assistencial - TOTVS
> www.totvs.com
> Contribuição Assistencial. A contribuição assistencial é prevista na alínea 
> e, do art. 513, da CLT - Consolidação das Leis do Trabalho. É aprovada pela 
> ...
>
> >
> > http://www.conjur.com.br/2014-jul-01/apenas-filiados-sindicato-pagar-contribuicao-assistencial
> ConJur - Apenas filiados a sindicato devem pagar ...
> www.conjur.com.br
> Consultor Jurídico - Notícias, 1/7/2014 - Apenas filiados a sindicato devem 
> pagar contribuição assistencial [Trabalhista]
>
> >
> > http://www.tst.jus.br/noticias/-/asset_publisher/89Dk/content/empregados-nao-filiados-a-sindicato-nao-terao-de-pagar-contribuicao-assistencial
> Empregados não filiados a sindicato não terão de pagar ...
> www.tst.jus.br
> Segundo a relatora, a previsão em norma coletiva de contribuição que obrigue 
> indistintamente associados e não associados viola garantias constitucionais.
>
> >
> > http://www.guiatrabalhista.com.br/guia/contr_assistencial.htm
> Contribuições Confederativa, Assistencial e Assemelhadas ...
> www.guiatrabalhista.com.br
> CONTRIBUIÇÕES CONFEDERATIVA, ASSISTENCIAL E ASSEMELHADAS . EMPREGADOS NÃO 
> SINDICALIZADOS. A contribuição confederativa, cujo objetivo é o custeio do 
> sistema ...
>
> >
> > http://www.reclameaqui.com.br/_L9u_0XOqztRd3tW/sindpd-sp/pelo-fim-da-carta-de-contribuicao-assistencial-aos-nao-associados/
> {{page.OGtitle}}
> www.reclameaqui.com.br
> {{page.OGdescription}}
>
> >
> > Façam o mesmo aos outros Sindicatos que exigem esta carta absurda!!!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: PROGRESS [Re: New to iptables]

2017-01-05 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 01:25:10PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 1/4/2017 10:54 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> [snipping my original ;]
> One doesn't understand things without understood background.
> This thread triggered some understanding of things I'd been told in
> past.

That's great to hear (should I say "read"). It's what we all are here
for, right?

All the best for your plans :)

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Re: [OT] get all devices from a vendor from pci.ids

2017-01-05 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 05 Jan 2017 21:07:10 +0100 schreef Nicolas George  
:



Le sextidi 16 nivôse, an CCXXV, Floris a écrit :
Thanks! But I prefer a solution with "essential" Debian software/  
packages


~ $ dpkg -S =perl
perl-base: /usr/bin/perl
~ $ dpkg -s perl-base | head -n 2
Package: perl-base
Essential: yes


Sorry, I only looked at the perl package
dpkg -s perl
Package: perl
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: perl

So every Debian user has the perl command?

Floris



Re: [OT] get all devices from a vendor from pci.ids

2017-01-05 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 05 Jan 2017 18:13:41 +0100 schreef Javier Barroso  
:



Hello,


On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Floris  wrote:

Op Wed, 04 Jan 2017 17:27:55 +0100 schreef Floris :


(Not really a Debian question, but I know there are smart people on  
this

list.)

I want to search the pci.ids file (from the pciutils package) for all
Compaq devices.
Pci ID's 0e11: , 1032: and 10da: matches Compaq.
Unfortunately, only at a beginning of a list the id of the vendor is  
printed
in column 1. The id of the devices are printed in column 2, with an  
empty

first column.

(part of pci.ids)
...
0e11  Compaq Computer Corporation
0001  PCI to EISA Bridge
0002  PCI to ISA Bridge
0046  Smart Array 64xx
0e11 4091  Smart Array 6i
0e11 409a  Smart Array 641
0e11 409b  Smart Array 642
0e11 409c  Smart Array 6400
0e11 409d  Smart Array 6400 EM
0049  NC7132 Gigabit Upgrade Module
004a  NC6136 Gigabit Server Adapter
...
c000  Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition
f130  NetFlex-3/P ThunderLAN 1.0
f150  NetFlex-3/P ThunderLAN 2.3
0e55  HaSoTec GmbH
...

Is there an awk, grep and or sed solution?

Floris



an other solution would be something like:

# cat pci.ids | {magic-command} 0e11:004a
NC6136 Gigabit Server Adapter

what is the magic command?


Using perl:

perl -ne 'print if (/^0e11/.../^\S/) and (/^\s/) or (/^0e11/);'
/usr/share/misc/pci.ids



Thanks! But I prefer a solution with "essential" Debian software/ packages

Floris



Re: [OT] get all devices from a vendor from pci.ids

2017-01-05 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 16 nivôse, an CCXXV, Floris a écrit :
> Thanks! But I prefer a solution with "essential" Debian software/ packages

~ $ dpkg -S =perl
perl-base: /usr/bin/perl
~ $ dpkg -s perl-base | head -n 2
Package: perl-base
Essential: yes


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PROGRESS [Re: New to iptables]

2017-01-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 1/4/2017 10:54 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
[snipping my original ;]
One doesn't understand things without understood background.
This thread triggered some understanding of things I'd been told 
in past.


I'm using http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/ as a reading guide.
A shorewall or netfilter page pointed me to ufw (I'll use gufw 
for now).
Browsing the the feature list of privoxy suggests it may be of 
interest.
I won't be using a VM, but will install very minimal Debian with 
a browser on a flash drive and use it for banking.






Re: Modificar velocidad placa de red (LAN)

2017-01-05 Thread Matias Mucciolo


On Thursday 05 January 2017 14:59:01 Rivera Valdez wrote:
> 2017-01-05 10:06 GMT-03:00 Jorge A. Secreto :
> > Hola
> >
> > El 4 de enero de 2017, 22:16, Rivera Valdez 
> > escribió:
> >>
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Rivera Valdez" 
> >> > To: "debian-user-spanish" 
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:30:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Modificar velocidad placa de red (LAN)
> >> >
> >> > Qué tal,
> >> >
> >> > tengo una notebook conectada por cable de red a un router que a su vez
> >> > está conectado también por cable de red a una máquina de escritorio
> >> > (es decir, una LAN hogareña, bah, que consiste sólo en esto que
> >> > mencioné). Ambas máquinas tienen distros basadas en Debian.
> >> >
> >> > Las máquinas se ven y comunican entre sí sin problemas, salvo que -por
> >> > algún motivo que no consigo elucidar- la velocidad de transmisión de
> >> > archivos entre ellas (sea mediante gestores gráficos o mediante sftp
> >> > por terminal) ha bajado y está clavada en 1.1MB/s. Antes, durante un
> >> > par de años y normalmente, la velocidad era mucho mayor.
> >> >
> >> > ¿Desde dónde puedo controlar y modificar esto?, la velocidad a la cual
> >> > se comunican/transmiten datos entre sí.
> >> >
> >> > ¡Muchas gracias!
> >> 2017-01-04 21:13 GMT-03:00 Matias Mucciolo :
> >> >
> >> > Buenas
> >> > proba con mii-tool
> >> > o ethtool
> >> >
> >>
> >  ---
> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Matias Mucciolo
> >> >
> >> > Area de Infraestructura.
> >> > Piedras 737 C.A.B.A
> >> > SUTEBA
> >> >
> >>
> >> Muchas gracias, Matias, !
> >>
> >> Por lo que estoy viendo ethtool tiene una manpage bastante poblada,
> >> ahora me voy a poner a leerla en detalle.
> >>
> >> Mientras, por si alguno detecta rápidamente cuál puede ser el
> >> problema, pego la salida que me da:
> >>
> >> $ ethtool eth0
> >> Settings for eth0:
> >> Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
> >> Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> >>100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> >>1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
> >> Supported pause frame use: No
> >> Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
> >> Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> >>100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> >>1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
> >> Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
> >> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
> >> Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> >> 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> >> Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
> >> Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
> >> Speed: 100Mb/s
> >> Duplex: Full
> >> Port: MII
> >> PHYAD: 0
> >> Transceiver: internal
> >> Auto-negotiation: on
> >> Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted
> >> Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
> >>   drv probe ifdown ifup
> >> Link detected: yes
> >>
> >> Reitero que, de momento, con ese resultado, la velocidad de
> >> transmisión real en la práctica es de 1.1MB/s, ¿alguna pista?
> >>
> >> Gracias de nuevo, !
> >>
> 
> Qué tal, Jorge, muchas gracias por la ayuda:
> 
> > Lo primero que pensé fué en probar los cables.
> > Aunque si fueran un desastre, la negociación debería haber elegido 10 y no
> > 100
> > Por las dudas los chequearía igual.
> 
> En principio los cables no sufrieron ningún "acto de violencia", pero
> en cuanto pueda voy a buscar otro cable y hacer la prueba.
> 
> > Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que no estén pasando cerca de una fuente de
> > ruido.
> > O paralelos a un cable de alimentación. Salvo que estés usando cables
> > blindados.
> 
> No son blindados, pero están en el lugar de siempre, sin
> modificaciones en ese sentido, ni nuevos equipos que se hayan
> instalado cerca.
> 
> > Como decís que originalmente funcionaban bien, buscaría algún cambio de ese
> > estilo.
> 
> En ese sentido no hubo cambios.
> 
> > O que hayan pisado el cable con una silla. ese tipo de cosas.
> 
> Cabe la posibilidad. Cuando testée con otro par de cables (si puedo
> esta noche) te confirmo.
> 
> > ¿Probaste de desconectar todo lo demás del router? Que funcione solamente
> > como switch.
> 
> Ídem. Esta noche hago la prueba.
> 
> > ¿Puede ser que alguien haya habilitado alguna regla de calidad de servicio
> > en el router?
> 
> En principio, no. Ese router lo administro sólo yo, y no modifiqué
> nada en él (salvo haber pasado el protocolo de seguridad WiFi de WEP
> -que venía por defecto- a WPA2; pero entiendo que no tiene nada que
> ver con esto, y además fue posterior a esta caída en velocidad de la
> conexión por red cableada).
> 
> > Ah, y la negociación de velocidad es contra el router. ¿Las dos máquinas se
> > conectan a 100Mb al router?
> 
> Esta es la salida de la otra máquina (de escritorio) de ethtool (creo
> que no importa, pero por las 

Re: Modificar velocidad placa de red (LAN)

2017-01-05 Thread Rivera Valdez
2017-01-05 10:06 GMT-03:00 Jorge A. Secreto :
> Hola
>
> El 4 de enero de 2017, 22:16, Rivera Valdez 
> escribió:
>>
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Rivera Valdez" 
>> > To: "debian-user-spanish" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:30:27 PM
>> > Subject: Modificar velocidad placa de red (LAN)
>> >
>> > Qué tal,
>> >
>> > tengo una notebook conectada por cable de red a un router que a su vez
>> > está conectado también por cable de red a una máquina de escritorio
>> > (es decir, una LAN hogareña, bah, que consiste sólo en esto que
>> > mencioné). Ambas máquinas tienen distros basadas en Debian.
>> >
>> > Las máquinas se ven y comunican entre sí sin problemas, salvo que -por
>> > algún motivo que no consigo elucidar- la velocidad de transmisión de
>> > archivos entre ellas (sea mediante gestores gráficos o mediante sftp
>> > por terminal) ha bajado y está clavada en 1.1MB/s. Antes, durante un
>> > par de años y normalmente, la velocidad era mucho mayor.
>> >
>> > ¿Desde dónde puedo controlar y modificar esto?, la velocidad a la cual
>> > se comunican/transmiten datos entre sí.
>> >
>> > ¡Muchas gracias!
>> 2017-01-04 21:13 GMT-03:00 Matias Mucciolo :
>> >
>> > Buenas
>> > proba con mii-tool
>> > o ethtool
>> >
>>
>  ---
>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matias Mucciolo
>> >
>> > Area de Infraestructura.
>> > Piedras 737 C.A.B.A
>> > SUTEBA
>> >
>>
>> Muchas gracias, Matias, !
>>
>> Por lo que estoy viendo ethtool tiene una manpage bastante poblada,
>> ahora me voy a poner a leerla en detalle.
>>
>> Mientras, por si alguno detecta rápidamente cuál puede ser el
>> problema, pego la salida que me da:
>>
>> $ ethtool eth0
>> Settings for eth0:
>> Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
>> Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>>100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>>1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
>> Supported pause frame use: No
>> Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
>> Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>>100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>>1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
>> Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
>> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
>> Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>> 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>> Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
>> Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
>> Speed: 100Mb/s
>> Duplex: Full
>> Port: MII
>> PHYAD: 0
>> Transceiver: internal
>> Auto-negotiation: on
>> Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted
>> Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
>>   drv probe ifdown ifup
>> Link detected: yes
>>
>> Reitero que, de momento, con ese resultado, la velocidad de
>> transmisión real en la práctica es de 1.1MB/s, ¿alguna pista?
>>
>> Gracias de nuevo, !
>>

Qué tal, Jorge, muchas gracias por la ayuda:

> Lo primero que pensé fué en probar los cables.
> Aunque si fueran un desastre, la negociación debería haber elegido 10 y no
> 100
> Por las dudas los chequearía igual.

En principio los cables no sufrieron ningún "acto de violencia", pero
en cuanto pueda voy a buscar otro cable y hacer la prueba.

> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que no estén pasando cerca de una fuente de
> ruido.
> O paralelos a un cable de alimentación. Salvo que estés usando cables
> blindados.

No son blindados, pero están en el lugar de siempre, sin
modificaciones en ese sentido, ni nuevos equipos que se hayan
instalado cerca.

> Como decís que originalmente funcionaban bien, buscaría algún cambio de ese
> estilo.

En ese sentido no hubo cambios.

> O que hayan pisado el cable con una silla. ese tipo de cosas.

Cabe la posibilidad. Cuando testée con otro par de cables (si puedo
esta noche) te confirmo.

> ¿Probaste de desconectar todo lo demás del router? Que funcione solamente
> como switch.

Ídem. Esta noche hago la prueba.

> ¿Puede ser que alguien haya habilitado alguna regla de calidad de servicio
> en el router?

En principio, no. Ese router lo administro sólo yo, y no modifiqué
nada en él (salvo haber pasado el protocolo de seguridad WiFi de WEP
-que venía por defecto- a WPA2; pero entiendo que no tiene nada que
ver con esto, y además fue posterior a esta caída en velocidad de la
conexión por red cableada).

> Ah, y la negociación de velocidad es contra el router. ¿Las dos máquinas se
> conectan a 100Mb al router?

Esta es la salida de la otra máquina (de escritorio) de ethtool (creo
que no importa, pero por las dudas aclaro que la estoy haciendo desde
la notebook, vía ssh):

[desktop] ~$ ethtool eth0
Settings for eth0:
Supported ports: [ MII ]
Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
   100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
   1000baseT/Full
Supported pause frame use: No
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes

Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Interesting.  Any hint how?
> It would be too long to explain here, but this page seems to cover the
> basics of what you need:
> http://packetpushers.net/udev/

I don't see any mechanism in there that will bring up an interface or
add it to a bridge, nor bring up the bridge.

As I said, I already have something working using `manual`.  It looks
like:

allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet manual
post-up brctl addif br0 $IFACE; ifconfig $IFACE up
pre-down ifconfig $IFACE down; brctl delif br0 $IFACE

and I think I can fairly easily spice it up to bring `br0` up on demand
(tho creating `br0` eagerly is fine as well.  The "ondemand" part is
mostly about the need to re-start the DHCP client when `usb0` gets added
to `br0`).

But what I'm looking for is a way to do that without writing it as
a script (IOW a more declarative way to do it).


Stefan



Re: [OT] get all devices from a vendor from pci.ids

2017-01-05 Thread Javier Barroso
Hello,


On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Floris  wrote:
> Op Wed, 04 Jan 2017 17:27:55 +0100 schreef Floris :
>
>
>> (Not really a Debian question, but I know there are smart people on this
>> list.)
>>
>> I want to search the pci.ids file (from the pciutils package) for all
>> Compaq devices.
>> Pci ID's 0e11: , 1032: and 10da: matches Compaq.
>> Unfortunately, only at a beginning of a list the id of the vendor is printed
>> in column 1. The id of the devices are printed in column 2, with an empty
>> first column.
>>
>> (part of pci.ids)
>> ...
>> 0e11  Compaq Computer Corporation
>> 0001  PCI to EISA Bridge
>> 0002  PCI to ISA Bridge
>> 0046  Smart Array 64xx
>> 0e11 4091  Smart Array 6i
>> 0e11 409a  Smart Array 641
>> 0e11 409b  Smart Array 642
>> 0e11 409c  Smart Array 6400
>> 0e11 409d  Smart Array 6400 EM
>> 0049  NC7132 Gigabit Upgrade Module
>> 004a  NC6136 Gigabit Server Adapter
>> ...
>> c000  Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition
>> f130  NetFlex-3/P ThunderLAN 1.0
>> f150  NetFlex-3/P ThunderLAN 2.3
>> 0e55  HaSoTec GmbH
>> ...
>>
>> Is there an awk, grep and or sed solution?
>>
>> Floris
>>
>
> an other solution would be something like:
>
> # cat pci.ids | {magic-command} 0e11:004a
> NC6136 Gigabit Server Adapter
>
> what is the magic command?

Using perl:

perl -ne 'print if (/^0e11/.../^\S/) and (/^\s/) or (/^0e11/);'
/usr/share/misc/pci.ids



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
Interesting, thanks for the explanation.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Reco  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 09:19:35 -0700
> Joshua Schaeffer  wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > A sample configuration would be:
> > >
> > > allow-ovs br0
> > > iface br0 inet4 static
> > > address …
> > > netmask …
> > > ovs_type OVSBridge
> > >
> > > allow-br0 eth0
> > > iface eth0 inet6 auto
> > > ovs_type OVSPort
> > > ovs_bridge br0
> > >
> > > allow-hotplug usb0
> > > iface usb0 inet6 auto
> > > ovs_type OVSPort
> > > ovs_bridge br0
> > >
> > > Reco
> > >
> > >
> > Pardon my ignorance, can you explain why you set an IPv4 address on your
> > bridge and an IPv6 address on your bridge interfaces? I've never seen
> this
> > before and would like to know what this accomplishes. Perhaps its a typo
> as
> > I thought IPv4 was just set with "inet" and IPv6 was set with "inet6".
>
> It's simple, although isn't obvious from this abridged example.
> I need a single IPv4 for both interfaces, so I set it on a bridge.
> I don't need distinct IPv4 on ports, so I don't set it there.
>
> Bridged interfaces retain their MACs, so they would get different IPv6
> ULAs, which are provided by radvd from the different host.
> And I don't need these IPv6 either.
>
> So, I can do:
>
> allow-br0 eth0
> iface eth0 inet manual
>  ovs_type OVSPort
>  ovs_bridge br0
>
> And get myself all kinds of unneeded trouble, or I can do:
>
> allow-br0 eth0
> iface eth0 inet6 auto
> autoconf 0
> accept_ra 0
> ovs_type OVSPort
> ovs_bridge br0
>
> Barring this IPv4/IPv6 difference, there should be no noticeable
> outcome between 'inet manual' and 'inet6 auto'.
>
> Reco
>
>


Re: [OT] get all devices from a vendor from pci.ids

2017-01-05 Thread Floris

Op Wed, 04 Jan 2017 17:27:55 +0100 schreef Floris :

(Not really a Debian question, but I know there are smart people on this  
list.)


I want to search the pci.ids file (from the pciutils package) for all  
Compaq devices.
Pci ID's 0e11: , 1032: and 10da: matches Compaq.  
Unfortunately, only at a beginning of a list the id of the vendor is  
printed in column 1. The id of the devices are printed in column 2, with  
an empty first column.


(part of pci.ids)
...
0e11  Compaq Computer Corporation
0001  PCI to EISA Bridge
0002  PCI to ISA Bridge
0046  Smart Array 64xx
0e11 4091  Smart Array 6i
0e11 409a  Smart Array 641
0e11 409b  Smart Array 642
0e11 409c  Smart Array 6400
0e11 409d  Smart Array 6400 EM
0049  NC7132 Gigabit Upgrade Module
004a  NC6136 Gigabit Server Adapter
...
c000  Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition
f130  NetFlex-3/P ThunderLAN 1.0
f150  NetFlex-3/P ThunderLAN 2.3
0e55  HaSoTec GmbH
...

Is there an awk, grep and or sed solution?

Floris



an other solution would be something like:

# cat pci.ids | {magic-command} 0e11:004a
NC6136 Gigabit Server Adapter

what is the magic command?

Floris



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 09:19:35 -0700
Joshua Schaeffer  wrote:

> >
> >
> > A sample configuration would be:
> >
> > allow-ovs br0
> > iface br0 inet4 static
> > address …
> > netmask …
> > ovs_type OVSBridge
> >
> > allow-br0 eth0
> > iface eth0 inet6 auto
> > ovs_type OVSPort
> > ovs_bridge br0
> >
> > allow-hotplug usb0
> > iface usb0 inet6 auto
> > ovs_type OVSPort
> > ovs_bridge br0
> >
> > Reco
> >
> >
> Pardon my ignorance, can you explain why you set an IPv4 address on your
> bridge and an IPv6 address on your bridge interfaces? I've never seen this
> before and would like to know what this accomplishes. Perhaps its a typo as
> I thought IPv4 was just set with "inet" and IPv6 was set with "inet6".

It's simple, although isn't obvious from this abridged example.
I need a single IPv4 for both interfaces, so I set it on a bridge.
I don't need distinct IPv4 on ports, so I don't set it there.

Bridged interfaces retain their MACs, so they would get different IPv6
ULAs, which are provided by radvd from the different host.
And I don't need these IPv6 either.

So, I can do:

allow-br0 eth0
iface eth0 inet manual
 ovs_type OVSPort
 ovs_bridge br0

And get myself all kinds of unneeded trouble, or I can do:

allow-br0 eth0
iface eth0 inet6 auto
autoconf 0
accept_ra 0
ovs_type OVSPort
ovs_bridge br0

Barring this IPv4/IPv6 difference, there should be no noticeable
outcome between 'inet manual' and 'inet6 auto'.

Reco



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
>
>
> A sample configuration would be:
>
> allow-ovs br0
> iface br0 inet4 static
> address …
> netmask …
> ovs_type OVSBridge
>
> allow-br0 eth0
> iface eth0 inet6 auto
> ovs_type OVSPort
> ovs_bridge br0
>
> allow-hotplug usb0
> iface usb0 inet6 auto
> ovs_type OVSPort
> ovs_bridge br0
>
> Reco
>
>
Pardon my ignorance, can you explain why you set an IPv4 address on your
bridge and an IPv6 address on your bridge interfaces? I've never seen this
before and would like to know what this accomplishes. Perhaps its a typo as
I thought IPv4 was just set with "inet" and IPv6 was set with "inet6".

Thanks,
Joshua Schaeffer


Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:34:16 -0500
Stefan Monnier  wrote:

> I have a bridge interface `br0` which usually contains jut `eth0` but
> occasionally also needs to contain `usb0`, which is an ethernet-dongle
> kind of thing.
> 
> How do I setup /etc/network/interfaces for that?
> 
> Currently, I just setup everything "manually": `br0` is setup `static`,
> and `usb0` is setup as `manual` with post-up scripts that add it to
> the bridge.
> 
> Is there something better?  Like a predefined way to just say that when
> `usb0` appears, it should be added to `br0` (and ideally, this would
> also `ifup` the `br0` interface if it's not up yet).

Conventional Linux bridge cannot do that. All those interfaces(5)
stanzas are merely a wrapper to 'brctl addbr' and 'brctl addif', which
are invoked by ifupdown.

But, it all changes if you replace conventional bridge with
openvswitch, which *can* add new interfaces (ports as they call it) to
its own bridges dynamically *and* it can be configured via interfaces(5).

A sample configuration would be:

allow-ovs br0
iface br0 inet4 static
address …
netmask …
ovs_type OVSBridge

allow-br0 eth0
iface eth0 inet6 auto
ovs_type OVSPort
ovs_bridge br0

allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet6 auto
ovs_type OVSPort
ovs_bridge br0

Reco



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.01.2017 um 10:29 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> and delegates to specialized subsystems. In a pinch you can just sneak
> a complete shell script in an udev rule (and I'm guilty of having done
> such a thing [2]), but doing this as "system architecture" might lead to
> madness :-)

> [2] Once, for a customer: inserting the right storage medium (with
>the right UUID) triggered a system backup.

Please don't do that. udev is a not a service manager and starting (long
running) tasks from a udev rule is bad.
See also the udev man page:

Starting daemons or other long-running processes is not appropriate
for udev; the forked processes, detached or not, will be
unconditionally killed after the event handling has finished.

If you want to trigger the start of a service via udev, tag the device
with "systemd" and use SYSTEMD_WANTS [1] via a custom udev rule, like

,TAG+="systemd",ENV{SYSTEMD_WANTS}="foo.service"



Regards,
Michael

[1]
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.device.html#SYSTEMD_WANTS=

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universe are pointed away from Earth?

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Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 16 nivôse, an CCXXV, Stefan Monnier a écrit :
> Interesting.  Any hint how?

It would be too long to explain here, but this page seems to cover the
basics of what you need:

http://packetpushers.net/udev/

Regards,

-- 
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Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Is there something better?  Like a predefined way to just say that when
>> `usb0` appears, it should be added to `br0` (and ideally, this would
>> also `ifup` the `br0` interface if it's not up yet).
> Not with /etc/network/interfaces and ifupdown, but udev can do all that.

Interesting.  Any hint how?


Stefan



Re: webradio et matériel

2017-01-05 Thread humbert . olivier . 1
Bonjour Bernard,

> j'ai un projet de webradio et je me rend compte qu'il faut penser à une carte 
> d'acquisition audio (rosegarden) ...
> laquelle choisir qui puisse être employée sans soucis

http://linuxmao.org/Liste+de+mat%C3%A9riel+par+marque

Tu trouveras là des tas d'informations (en français en surplus) concernant des 
retours d'expériences des utilisateurs de linuxmao.org .
N'hésite pas à poser des questions dans les forums.

En espérant que ça aide,
Olivier



Re: OT Wine en debian Jessie

2017-01-05 Thread Marcelo Giordano



y bueno, sin apt-transport-https, apt-get no puede conectarse por
https, sin poder conectarte por https no podés llegar al repositorio de
wine, sin el repositorio de wine, no hay wine.
Por cierto, ¿porqué no el paquete oficial que viene en debian?




Instalé el paquete oficial y se instaló perfectamente. Ya probaré si 
funciona bien.

Gracias por tu ayuda amigo.



Problemas con la hibernación

2017-01-05 Thread Miguel Matos
Saludos a la lista. Otro problema que se me presentó fue con la
hibernación. Cada vez que escojo la opción en la ventana de apagado,
se activa el bloqueo de pantalla, y se termina "pegado", y no realiza
la operación. Ahora me toca apagar todo, teniendo que cerrar las
ventanas que tengo abiertas. Espero me puedan apoyar con esto, si
necesitan algún dato extra, solo díganlo. Uso debian jessie con el
kernel 4.8.0

-- 

Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz



webradio et matériel

2017-01-05 Thread bernard schoenacker
bonjour,

j'ai un projet de webradio et je me rend compte qu'il faut
penser à une carte d'acquisition audio (rosegarden) ...

laquelle choisir qui puisse être employée sans soucis

rtfm de référence :

http://blog.juliendelmas.fr/?mettre-en-place-une-webradio

merci de votre aimable attention

slt
bernard

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Re: OT: Pelo Fim da Carta de Contribuição Assistencial aos não associados

2017-01-05 Thread Paulo Correia
Thiago,


OT, normalmente significa Off Topic.


A ligação seria que como o Debian tem relação a informática, e normalmente quem 
trabalha com informática está ligado a algum sindicato e este sindicato na 
maioria das vezes é o SINDPD.


Mas outros sindicatos também pedem esta carta absurda (Ex: Comerciários).


Seria um aviso a todos, para brigarem com seus respectivos sindicatos pelo fim 
desta carta absurda, ou que entrem em contato com o Ministério Público para que 
o mesmo estipule uma multa ao sindicato por exigir esta carta aos não filiados.


Att,

Paulo Correia



De: Thiago Canuto Ferreira 
Enviado: quinta-feira, 5 de janeiro de 2017 10:51
Para: Paulo Correia
Cc: Debian-User
Assunto: Re: OT: Pelo Fim da Carta de Contribuição Assistencial aos não 
associados

Bom dia Paulo

Qual a ligação deste assunto ao Debian?


Thiago C. F.

Em Qui, 2017-01-05 às 12:10 +, Paulo Correia escreveu:
> Não é de hoje que o SINDPD SP vem pedindo que faça uma carta e
> enfrente uma fila absurda para fazer uma carta aos não filiados para
> que os mesmos não sejam cobrados da contribuição assistencial.
>
> Isto não existe e é uma inversão de valores, segundo os links abaixo:
> http://www.trtsp.jus.br/indice-de-noticias-ultimas-noticias/2989-12-turma-indevido-desconto-de-contribuicao-assistencial-de-trabalhador-nao-sindicalizado
12ª Turma: indevido desconto de contribuição assistencial 
...
www.trtsp.jus.br
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Contribuição Assistencial. A contribuição assistencial é prevista na alínea e, 
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> Façam o mesmo aos outros Sindicatos que exigem esta carta absurda!!!
>
>
>





Re: Modificar velocidad placa de red (LAN)

2017-01-05 Thread Jorge A. Secreto
Hola

El 4 de enero de 2017, 22:16, Rivera Valdez 
escribió:

> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Rivera Valdez" 
> > To: "debian-user-spanish" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:30:27 PM
> > Subject: Modificar velocidad placa de red (LAN)
> >
> > Qué tal,
> >
> > tengo una notebook conectada por cable de red a un router que a su vez
> > está conectado también por cable de red a una máquina de escritorio
> > (es decir, una LAN hogareña, bah, que consiste sólo en esto que
> > mencioné). Ambas máquinas tienen distros basadas en Debian.
> >
> > Las máquinas se ven y comunican entre sí sin problemas, salvo que -por
> > algún motivo que no consigo elucidar- la velocidad de transmisión de
> > archivos entre ellas (sea mediante gestores gráficos o mediante sftp
> > por terminal) ha bajado y está clavada en 1.1MB/s. Antes, durante un
> > par de años y normalmente, la velocidad era mucho mayor.
> >
> > ¿Desde dónde puedo controlar y modificar esto?, la velocidad a la cual
> > se comunican/transmiten datos entre sí.
> >
> > ¡Muchas gracias!
> 2017-01-04 21:13 GMT-03:00 Matias Mucciolo :
> >
> > Buenas
> > proba con mii-tool
> > o ethtool
> >
>
>  ---

> >
> > --
> > Matias Mucciolo
> >
> > Area de Infraestructura.
> > Piedras 737 C.A.B.A
> > SUTEBA
> >
>
> Muchas gracias, Matias, !
>
> Por lo que estoy viendo ethtool tiene una manpage bastante poblada,
> ahora me voy a poner a leerla en detalle.
>
> Mientras, por si alguno detecta rápidamente cuál puede ser el
> problema, pego la salida que me da:
>
> $ ethtool eth0
> Settings for eth0:
> Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
> Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
> Supported pause frame use: No
> Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
> Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
> Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
> Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
> Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
> Speed: 100Mb/s
>

Lo primero que pensé fué en probar los cables.
Aunque si fueran un desastre, la negociación debería haber elegido 10 y no
100
Por las dudas los chequearía igual.


> Duplex: Full
> Port: MII
> PHYAD: 0
> Transceiver: internal
> Auto-negotiation: on
> Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted
> Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
>   drv probe ifdown ifup
> Link detected: yes
>
> Reitero que, de momento, con ese resultado, la velocidad de
> transmisión real en la práctica es de 1.1MB/s, ¿alguna pista?
>
> Gracias de nuevo, !
>
> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que no estén pasando cerca de una fuente de
ruido.
O paralelos a un cable de alimentación. Salvo que estés usando cables
blindados.
Como decís que originalmente funcionaban bien, buscaría algún cambio de ese
estilo.
O que hayan pisado el cable con una silla. ese tipo de cosas.
¿Probaste de desconectar todo lo demás del router? Que funcione solamente
como switch.
¿Puede ser que alguien haya habilitado alguna regla de calidad de servicio
en el router?
Ah, y la negociación de velocidad es contra el router. ¿Las dos máquinas se
conectan a 100Mb al router?
Saludos


-- 
Jorge A Secreto
Analista de Sistemas
MP 361


Re: OT: Pelo Fim da Carta de Contribuição Assistencial aos não associados

2017-01-05 Thread Thiago Canuto Ferreira
Bom dia Paulo

Qual a ligação deste assunto ao Debian?


Thiago C. F.

Em Qui, 2017-01-05 às 12:10 +, Paulo Correia escreveu:
> Não é de hoje que o SINDPD SP vem pedindo que faça uma carta e
> enfrente uma fila absurda para fazer uma carta aos não filiados para
> que os mesmos não sejam cobrados da contribuição assistencial.
> 
> Isto não existe e é uma inversão de valores, segundo os links abaixo:
> http://www.trtsp.jus.br/indice-de-noticias-ultimas-noticias/2989-12-turma-indevido-desconto-de-contribuicao-assistencial-de-trabalhador-nao-sindicalizado
> 
> https://www.totvs.com/mktfiles/tdiportais/helponlineprotheus/portuguese/sigagpe_bra_contribuicao_assistencial.htm
> 
> http://www.conjur.com.br/2014-jul-01/apenas-filiados-sindicato-pagar-contribuicao-assistencial
> 
> http://www.tst.jus.br/noticias/-/asset_publisher/89Dk/content/empregados-nao-filiados-a-sindicato-nao-terao-de-pagar-contribuicao-assistencial
> 
> http://www.guiatrabalhista.com.br/guia/contr_assistencial.htm
> 
> http://www.reclameaqui.com.br/_L9u_0XOqztRd3tW/sindpd-sp/pelo-fim-da-carta-de-contribuicao-assistencial-aos-nao-associados/
> 
> Façam o mesmo aos outros Sindicatos que exigem esta carta absurda!!!
> 
> 
> 





No puedo ver detalles de las últimas actualizaciones de seguridad

2017-01-05 Thread francisco dominguez
Buenas, acabo de ver que mi servidor se actualizó anoche, y cuando voy a la
página de debian a ver los detalles de dicha actualización, me aparece
"page not found", también con la penúltima actualización, dejo aquí los
enlaces de los que hablo:

https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3752

https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3751


OT: Pelo Fim da Carta de Contribuição Assistencial aos não associados

2017-01-05 Thread Paulo Correia
Não é de hoje que o SINDPD SP vem pedindo que faça uma carta e enfrente uma 
fila absurda para fazer uma carta aos não filiados para que os mesmos não sejam 
cobrados da contribuição assistencial.

Isto não existe e é uma inversão de valores, segundo os links abaixo:
http://www.trtsp.jus.br/indice-de-noticias-ultimas-noticias/2989-12-turma-indevido-desconto-de-contribuicao-assistencial-de-trabalhador-nao-sindicalizado

https://www.totvs.com/mktfiles/tdiportais/helponlineprotheus/portuguese/sigagpe_bra_contribuicao_assistencial.htm

http://www.conjur.com.br/2014-jul-01/apenas-filiados-sindicato-pagar-contribuicao-assistencial

http://www.tst.jus.br/noticias/-/asset_publisher/89Dk/content/empregados-nao-filiados-a-sindicato-nao-terao-de-pagar-contribuicao-assistencial

http://www.guiatrabalhista.com.br/guia/contr_assistencial.htm

http://www.reclameaqui.com.br/_L9u_0XOqztRd3tW/sindpd-sp/pelo-fim-da-carta-de-contribuicao-assistencial-aos-nao-associados/


Façam o mesmo aos outros Sindicatos que exigem esta carta absurda!!!


Re: Pas de réseau avec Atheros et RJ45

2017-01-05 Thread Jean Louis Giraud Desrondiers

> J'ai un peu peur de perdre mon réseau wifi si je fais une mauvaise
> configuration.
pour configurer ta connexion avec un câble directement depuis ta box
je te copie ce qui m'a été envoyé lorsque j'ai eu mes problèmes de
connexion wifi : 
"Je te conseille une config filaire simple en DHCP connecté à ta box 

En root

ajouter ceci dans /etc/network/interfaces : (à ajuster à ta config)

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

Puis

ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0

> J'aurais besoin de vos conseils pour en apprendre un peu plus.
> Pour compléter ce tutoriel et mes connaissances.
> 
> Merci à vous. Bonne journée.
> 


-- 
Cordialement, 

Jean Louis Giraud Desrondiers 



Re: Potential problem with aptitude search?

2017-01-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 05 January 2017 03:28:23 Sven Hartge wrote:
> Carl Fink  wrote:
> > Thoughts? I'll submit a bug report if warranted but I thought I'd get the
> > community's opinion first.
>
> aptitude search the package name and only the package name by default.
>
> If you want to search inside the description, you have to search like
> this:
>
>   aptitude search "~dsip"
>
> See here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html


And then there is apropos
https://debian-administration.org/article/614/Commands_you_might_have_missed_apropos

If apt and aptitude were identical there would be no point in having both.

Lisi



Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:07:59AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le quintidi 15 nivôse, an CCXXV, Stefan Monnier a écrit :
> > Is there something better?  Like a predefined way to just say that when
> > `usb0` appears, it should be added to `br0` (and ideally, this would
> > also `ifup` the `br0` interface if it's not up yet).
> 
> Not with /etc/network/interfaces and ifupdown, but udev can do all that.

I always thought this is a division of labor between udev (generating
a "hotplug event", like "eth0 link went just up" and ifupdown, declaring
what has to happen (cf. the "allow-hotplug" directive).

But I must admit I never looked to deeply into that to be authoritative.
The docs [1] seem to suggest that, though.

Of course, udev would be involved for other network management systems
too, like NM: ideally, udev just dispatches and normalizes kernel events
and delegates to specialized subsystems. In a pinch you can just sneak
a complete shell script in an udev rule (and I'm guilty of having done
such a thing [2]), but doing this as "system architecture" might lead to
madness :-)

[1] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html
[2] Once, for a customer: inserting the right storage medium (with
   the right UUID) triggered a system backup.

regards
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Re: hotpluggable member of a bridge

2017-01-05 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 15 nivôse, an CCXXV, Stefan Monnier a écrit :
> Is there something better?  Like a predefined way to just say that when
> `usb0` appears, it should be added to `br0` (and ideally, this would
> also `ifup` the `br0` interface if it's not up yet).

Not with /etc/network/interfaces and ifupdown, but udev can do all that.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: Pas de réseau avec Atheros et RJ45

2017-01-05 Thread Grégory Reinbold
Salut,

Tu dis

Résolution du problème

Actuellement si je branche le cable réseau en RJ45 dans la box,
j'ai un message d'erreur :

xxxyyyzzzyyyzzzyyyzzzyyyzzzyyyzzz

Je peux tout de même naviguer et lancer des recherches sur
internet. 

Quel est le message d'erreur ?

Le mercredi 04 janvier 2017 à 13:59 +0100, G2PC a écrit :
> Le 04/01/2017 à 13:49, Jean Louis Giraud Desrondiers a écrit :
> > On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:11:42 +0100
> > Jean Louis Giraud Desrondiers  wrote:
> > 
> > bon je ne sais pas ce qui s'est passé : j'ai connecté un dongle TP-
> > LINK
> > et puis, comme Network-manager ne détectait toujours pas de
> > connexion
> > wifi, je l'ai désinstallé et j'ai réinstallé wicd, j'ai débranché
> > mon
> > câble réseau et j'ai redémarré mon ordi et là, miracle, wicd a
> > détecté
> > des connexions wifi dont ma Livebox. 
> > ET donc tout est rentré dans l'ordre. 
> > Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont aidé : j'ai appris pas mal de choses sur
> > la
> > connexion wifi au passage. 
> 
> Bonjour, j'aimerais avec votre aide en comprendre d'avantage sur la
> bonne façon d'utiliser ma carte réseau RJ45.
> Actuellement, elle ne fonctionne pas si je suis branché à la BOX.
> 
> Je suis sur un Alienware 17R3 ( portable ) avec une carte réseau
> Atheros.
> 
> Voilà quelques notes pour tenter de débloquer ce problème de carte
> réseau qui ne connecte pas.
> https://www.visionduweb.eu/wiki/index.php?title=Utiliser_la_carte_rese
> au_Ethernet_Alienware_17R3_Atheros
> 
> ( Je suis sous Linux Mint Sarah XFCE. )
> Sûrement que la procédure reste fondamentalement identique que sous
> Debian pour arriver à obtenir une connexion réseau RJ45.
> 
> J'ai un peu peur de perdre mon réseau wifi si je fais une mauvaise
> configuration.
> J'aurais besoin de vos conseils pour en apprendre un peu plus.
> Pour compléter ce tutoriel et mes connaissances.
> 
> Merci à vous. Bonne journée.
> 
-- 
Grégory Reinbold