Re: Bluetooth: unable to pair Apple Wireless Keyboard Mod. A1016

[solitone]

On Monday, January 30, 2017 9:10:59 PM CET Leandro Noferini wrote:
> I have a bluetooth keyboard different model (the model without numeric
> keys) and to pair in a debian stable I needed to install also the
> bluez-firmware package: after this I paired with standard gnome tools.

I also believe you could give bluez-firmware a try. I had a pairing issue with 
a different device (a speaker), and I could only solved it with that package.

Not sure where to report this issue...

[Robin Cook]

I am running debian sid and currently all video players the video freezes when 
I try to play a video.   Also the KDE desktop will freeze until I change to one 
of the virtual terminals with CTRL-ALT-F? and then back to KDE desktop with 
ALT-F7.  It will then work for a bit then freeze again.

mpv - freezes, both audio and video stop.
mplayer - freezes, video stops, audio continues.
xine - freezes, video stops, audio continues.

I have to use the kill command on them to close them.

On mpv if I use -vo= xv or x11 it will work all others (vdpau, opengl, sdl, 
vaapi) freeze except for drm which gets the below error

[vo/drm] VT_GETMODE failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[vo/drm] Failed to set up VT switcher. Terminal switching will be unavailable.
[vo/drm] Cannot set CRTC: Permission denied
Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (--vo) device.

---

lspci -nn | grep VGA
08:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 
[AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4870] [1002:9440]

---

xrandr --listproviders
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x54 cap: 0xf, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload, Sink 
Offload crtcs: 2 outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:ATI Radeon 4800 Series 
@ pci::08:00.0

---

xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink radeon Intel
Could not find provider with name radeon

---

DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770 (DRM 2.48.0 / 4.9.0-1-amd64, 
LLVM 3.9.1)

---

From /var/log/dmesg

[   12.804277] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[   12.859566] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x9440 
0x1043:0x0388).
[   12.859595] [drm] register mmio base: 0xFE9E
[   12.859600] [drm] register mmio size: 65536
[   12.860436] ATOM BIOS: 9440.11.17.0.18.AS01
[   12.860492] radeon :08:00.0: VRAM: 1024M 0x - 
0x3FFF (1024M used)
[   12.860499] radeon :08:00.0: GTT: 1024M 0x4000 - 
0x7FFF
[   12.860503] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M
[   12.860507] [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR
[   12.860688] [TTM] Zone  kernel: Available graphics memory: 4097956 kiB
[   12.860692] [TTM] Zone   dma32: Available graphics memory: 2097152 kiB
[   12.860695] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator
[   12.860707] [TTM] Initializing DMA pool allocator
[   12.860748] [drm] radeon: 1024M of VRAM memory ready
[   12.860752] [drm] radeon: 1024M of GTT memory ready.
[   12.860775] [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode
[   12.951699] radeon :08:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
radeon/RV770_pfp.bin
[   12.986773] radeon :08:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
radeon/RV770_me.bin
[   13.003314] radeon :08:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
radeon/R700_rlc.bin
[   13.080896] radeon :08:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
radeon/RV770_smc.bin
[   13.080912] [drm] Internal thermal controller with fan control
[   13.081034] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[   13.081047] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 262144, num gpu pages 262144
[   13.084763] [drm] enabling PCIE gen 2 link speeds, disable with 
radeon.pcie_gen2=0
[   13.088409] [drm] PCIE GART of 1024M enabled (table at 0x0004).
[   13.088434] radeon :08:00.0: WB enabled
[   13.088436] radeon :08:00.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 
0x4c00 and cpu addr 0x88022bd43c00
[   13.088438] radeon :08:00.0: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 
0x4c0c and cpu addr 0x88022bd43c0c
[   13.088440] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
[   13.088440] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[   13.088459] radeon :08:00.0: irq 90 for MSI/MSI-X
[   13.088467] radeon :08:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[   13.088487] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[   13.134370] [drm] ring test on 0 succeeded in 1 usecs
[   13.134436] [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 1 usecs
[   13.134763] [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecs
[   13.134786] [drm] ib test on ring 3 succeeded in 0 usecs
[   13.135401] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[   13.135405] [drm] Connector 0:
[   13.135409] [drm]   VGA-1
[   13.135412] [drm]   DDC: no ddc bus - possible BIOS bug - please report to 
xorg-driver-...@lists.x.org
[   13.135414] [drm]   Encoders:
[   13.135417] [drm] CRT2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[   13.135420] [drm] Connector 1:
[   13.135423] [drm]   HDMI-A-1
[   13.135426] [drm]   HPD1
[   13.135431] [drm]   DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c 
0x7e6c
[   13.135433] [drm]   Encoders:
[   13.135436] [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[   13.135439] [drm] Connector 2:
[   13.135441] [drm]   DVI-I-1
[   13.135444] [drm]   HPD2
[   13.135449] [drm]   DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c 
0x7e2c
[   13.135451] [drm]   Encoders:
[   13.135454] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[   13.135457] [drm] DFP2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
[   13.182521] [drm] fb mappable at 0xD0241000
[   13.182529] [drm] 

Re: Early boot became slower

[David Wright]

On Mon 30 Jan 2017 at 22:31:28 (+), Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> Felix Miata:
> 
> >At what point exactly within either of those videos does 80 by 25
> >appear? All I saw anywhere appeared to be in the vicinity of 240
> >by 67.
> 
> I think that I have put my finger on the source of your perplexity.
> Remember where M. Oss said the following?
> 
> Mattia Oss:
> 
> >This can be seen in the 3rd video.
> 
> There's a third video, and it appears in the third video. It's
> definitely 80*25 VGA text mode in that third video.

Yes, there were three videos originally, viz.

16199062 goo-1-line-7-boot-4.8.0-1-amd64.mkv
15994161 goo-2-line-1-boot-4.9.0-1-amd64.mkv
10878351 goo-3-line-1-boot-text-4.9.0-1-amd64.mkv

(though I guess the precise lengths my depend on the software used to
download them?)

But that only translated to two youtube videos, viz.

4587493 you-1-line-7-linux-image-4.8.0-1-amd64.bootvideo-NLWB7FyV7jU.mp4
5927576 you-2-line-4-linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64.bootvideo-Nc1lgpdgaxQ.mp4

I don't see a low-res period in either of the latter. I suspect the
OP didn't bother with the third video, notwithstanding the discussion
about it. Should I take it that the "HUGE" characters are just a
result of a period at 640x480 resolution?

> And just as M.
> Oss said, the text in the third video scrolls fairly briskly and the
> characters are ...
> 
> Mattia Oss:
> 
> >HUGE characters.
> >
> ... as one would expect with 80 columns by 25 rows on a widescreen
> display of that size.
> 
> Now M. Oss and all of you get to play with the different ways that
> the VESA driver can do scrolling. (-:

But if the OP intended people to attend only to the rate at which
lines appear on the screen, then posting videos at 1920x1080 was
a waste of time for many, because the rate at which the video runs
is a function of the power of the recipient's computer. None of mine
are able to run these videos at all smoothly.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Oddity noticed installing caja-gksu, Bug?

[David Wright]

On Mon 30 Jan 2017 at 14:47:41 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/30/2017 11:49 AM, David Wright wrote:
> >On Sun 29 Jan 2017 at 08:58:17 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>I using Debian 8.6.0 [with *NO* updates] from set of purchased DVDs.
> >>I use the Mate desktop.
> >>
> >>When I installed caja-gksu, it did not apparently have any effect
> >>until after a reboot. Is this expected?
> >
> >Installation should affect new instances of caja.
> 
> The last time I did any low level coding the 8085 was state of the
> art ;/ The key question is likely just what defines "a new
> instance". IIRC there were no open caja "windows". Could be
> mistaken.

A process. I don't know what a caja window represents as I've never
used it. But a newly started process will see new links to the
libraries, including the one you just installed, libcaja-gksu.

>  It won't affect any
> >caja instances already running at the time you installed caja-gksu.
> >Next time you install Debian, you could test examples of each type
> >of instance, before and after, to establish the presence of any bug.
> 
> Your timing is exquisite. I just solved a problem whose
> repercussions added much cuff to my install before I got it right. I
> was planning an install from scratch by the weekend. Due to previous
> install experiments, I've a customized preseed.cfg that makes test
> installs trivial.

Well, guessing that you will reinstall soon is a bit of a no-brainer;
how many times have you installed Debian over the last five years?
(Of course, one could just uninstall the library and then reinstall
it to perform the tests.)

> >>I found no indication either way in a web search.
> >
> >I don't think one would expect to, unless you searched for "ldconfig".
> >Caja is just one program among thousands that would be expected to
> >behave in the same way. Try:
> >
> >http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html
> 
> Looks like I'm out of mischief for the weekend.
> Thanks

Cheers,
David.

[Solved??] Re: Synaptic broke

[Michael Milliman]

On 01/30/2017 08:32 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:


I just ran across a problem with synaptic.  When I start this program, 
I get a dialog box saying:


The value 'jessie-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release
as such a release is not available in the sources

Synaptic then exits with no opportunity to make any changes.
I have tried to find where this setting is to fix it, but have had no 
luck.  I have purged and re-installed synaptic with no luck.

I am running a fully updated jessie (8.7) system.
Anyone have any ideas how to repair this??
I ran apt-get update (which noted a hash sum mismatch on 
jessie-backports repositories) and apt-get upgrade.  I then tried 
synaptic again, and it seems the problem has cleared itself.  Very strange.

--
73's de Mike, WB5VQX


--
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Synaptic broke

[Michael Milliman]

I just ran across a problem with synaptic.  When I start this program, I 
get a dialog box saying:


   The value 'jessie-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as
   such a release is not available in the sources

Synaptic then exits with no opportunity to make any changes.
I have tried to find where this setting is to fix it, but have had no 
luck.  I have purged and re-installed synaptic with no luck.

I am running a fully updated jessie (8.7) system.
Anyone have any ideas how to repair this??

--
73's de Mike, WB5VQX

Re: Early boot became slower

[Felix Miata]

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard composed on 2017-01-30 22:31 (UTC):


Felix Miata composed:



At what point exactly within either of those videos does 80 by 25
appear? All I saw anywhere appeared to be in the vicinity of 240 by 67.



I think that I have put my finger on the source of your perplexity.
Remember where M. Oss said the following?



Mattia Oss:



This can be seen in the 3rd video.



There's a third video, and it appears in the third video. It's
definitely 80*25 VGA text mode in that third video. And just as M. Oss
said, the text in the third video scrolls fairly briskly and the
characters are ...



Mattia Oss:



HUGE characters.



... as one would expect with 80 columns by 25 rows on a widescreen
display of that size.


Now that I've seen that...


Now M. Oss and all of you get to play with the different ways that the
VESA driver can do scrolling. (-:


...I reread OP's thread posts and see he has yet to provide us a look at 
/proc/cmdline from a boot that produces (huge text) 80x25 mode. I would like to 
see that before I consider whether to respond further.

--
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: CUPS in stretch Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

[roba]

On 2017-01-30 22:47, r...@openmailbox.org wrote:

And this is for trying to plug a ppd that was hacked from an other
Ricoh printer to fit an SP112 SP112-su
I figured what did not work for jessie may work for stretch
I had gotten the same printer to work on an other machine with
jessie somewhere around 8.5 but not on this one.

Any suggestions on how to reach the blocked :631 link?


Same printer, not very different AMD64, and based on the hacked ppd 
available on github it worked flawlessly ... I started on 8.6 on this 
one when it was fresh and never got it to work following the same 
procedure.  But localhost:631 worked and the browser hasn't changed much 
(from what I do to it).  I suspect it is running as you say but how do I 
reach it or what is blocking access to it?  Or what do I put in 
host.allow hosts.deny to unblock it if that is the culprit.  And WHY did 
debian change such a thing?  Security security security?  Basic early 
upgrade from stable to testing is the only change that I am responsible 
for.


C:\ ps -ef | grep cups
roots 361 1  0 Jan30 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l
roots 467 1  0 Jan30 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cups-browsed
rock 6128  6115  0 01:20 pts/200:00:00 grep cups
lp  15797   361  0 Jan30 ?00:00:00 
/usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://


C:\:)

Re: CUPS in stretch Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

[Brian]

On Tue 31 Jan 2017 at 07:54:11 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:47:24PM +0100, r...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> > I used to try and set up a printer through localhost:631 in Jessie but now
> > in stretch it is impossible.  I foung some link about /etc/hosts.allow and
> > deny and tried a few things but still no luck.  Maybe I am not using the
> > correct statement and tried localhost and 127.0.0.1 but still no luck.
> > And this is for trying to plug a ppd that was hacked from an other Ricoh
> > printer to fit an SP112 SP112-su
> > I figured what did not work for jessie may work for stretch
> > I had gotten the same printer to work on an other machine with jessie
> > somewhere around 8.5 but not on this one.
> > 
> > Any suggestions on how to reach the blocked :631 link?
> > 
> 
> Potentially stupid question -- are you sure the URL is blocked and it's 
> not simply that CUPS is not running?

It doesn't really matter. Ricoh has the SP 112 down as using the DDST
(whatever that stands for) language to communicate with the device. It
needs a host-based driver on the computer. It is very doubtful there is
a free one in Debian.

-- 
Brian.

Re: CUPS in stretch Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

[Mark Fletcher]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:47:24PM +0100, r...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> I used to try and set up a printer through localhost:631 in Jessie but now
> in stretch it is impossible.  I foung some link about /etc/hosts.allow and
> deny and tried a few things but still no luck.  Maybe I am not using the
> correct statement and tried localhost and 127.0.0.1 but still no luck.
> And this is for trying to plug a ppd that was hacked from an other Ricoh
> printer to fit an SP112 SP112-su
> I figured what did not work for jessie may work for stretch
> I had gotten the same printer to work on an other machine with jessie
> somewhere around 8.5 but not on this one.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to reach the blocked :631 link?
> 

Potentially stupid question -- are you sure the URL is blocked and it's 
not simply that CUPS is not running?

$ ps -ef | grep cups

on my system I get:

root   907 1  0 Jan15 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cups-browsed
root 31985 1  0 07:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f

That is the first possibility to eliminate.

Mark

Re: Impossible to install debian-8.7.1-i386-netinst.iso

[Mark Fletcher]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:53:56PM +0100, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> On an old computer, with an USB keyboard, the install stops on the first
> screen.
> 
> The keyboard is not active (but it works fine in the bios !).
> 
> A similar problem is described in
> http://www.kasploosh.com/weblog/14000/14016-debian_jessie_usb_keyboard.html
> 
> Is there a workaround ?
> 

I have a feeling someone else faced a similar problem somehwat recently 
(say in the last 6-12 months) and there was a boot parameter that sorted 
it for them. I'm afraid I don't remember details. The closest I have 
personally come to this is finding a Bluetooth keyboard not working at 
that stage, but a wired USB keyboard did work. That was a release or two 
of Jessie ago.

I'd suggest that Google will make short work of searching the archives 
of this list to find the answer.

Mark

Early boot became slower

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

Felix Miata:

At what point exactly within either of those videos does 80 by 25 
appear? All I saw anywhere appeared to be in the vicinity of 240 by 67.




I think that I have put my finger on the source of your perplexity.  
Remember where M. Oss said the following?


Mattia Oss:


This can be seen in the 3rd video.



There's a third video, and it appears in the third video. It's 
definitely 80*25 VGA text mode in that third video. And just as M. Oss 
said, the text in the third video scrolls fairly briskly and the 
characters are ...



Mattia Oss:


HUGE characters.

... as one would expect with 80 columns by 25 rows on a widescreen 
display of that size.


Now M. Oss and all of you get to play with the different ways that the 
VESA driver can do scrolling. (-:

Re: How to reply a list message using Gmail with Evolution?

[Mark Fletcher]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 03:32:12PM +, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 00:13:56 +0900
> Mark Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark and River,
> 
> >seem to recall Google insist you connect to them using TLS or SSL -- no 
> >insecure connections. Beyond that I recall it being straightforward.
> 
> From what I've read online over the past year or so they (google) now
> also require that you allow 'insecure' software to connect to their
> systems in your user preferences.  By the term insecure they mean 'not
> written by google'.  Where the setting resides within their prefs pages,
> I have no idea.
> 
Yes, you are not the first person to say this -- but I didn't have to do 
anything like this to get Evolution to work. I suspect the need for this 
is less widespread than is being put about on the 'net.

Mark

CUPS in stretch Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

[roba]

I used to try and set up a printer through localhost:631 in Jessie but 
now in stretch it is impossible.  I foung some link about 
/etc/hosts.allow and deny and tried a few things but still no luck.  
Maybe I am not using the correct statement and tried localhost and 
127.0.0.1 but still no luck.
And this is for trying to plug a ppd that was hacked from an other Ricoh 
printer to fit an SP112 SP112-su

I figured what did not work for jessie may work for stretch
I had gotten the same printer to work on an other machine with jessie 
somewhere around 8.5 but not on this one.


Any suggestions on how to reach the blocked :631 link?

Re: Oddity noticed installing caja-gksu, Bug?

[Richard Owlett]

On 01/30/2017 11:49 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 29 Jan 2017 at 08:58:17 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:

I using Debian 8.6.0 [with *NO* updates] from set of purchased DVDs.
I use the Mate desktop.

When I installed caja-gksu, it did not apparently have any effect
until after a reboot. Is this expected?


Installation should affect new instances of caja.


The last time I did any low level coding the 8085 was state of 
the art ;/ The key question is likely just what defines "a new 
instance". IIRC there were no open caja "windows". Could be mistaken.


 It won't affect any

caja instances already running at the time you installed caja-gksu.
Next time you install Debian, you could test examples of each type
of instance, before and after, to establish the presence of any bug.


Your timing is exquisite. I just solved a problem whose 
repercussions added much cuff to my install before I got it 
right. I was planning an install from scratch by the weekend. Due 
to previous install experiments, I've a customized preseed.cfg 
that makes test installs trivial.





I found no indication either way in a web search.


I don't think one would expect to, unless you searched for "ldconfig".
Caja is just one program among thousands that would be expected to
behave in the same way. Try:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html


Looks like I'm out of mischief for the weekend.
Thanks



Cheers,
David.

Re: Bluetooth: unable to pair Apple Wireless Keyboard Mod. A1016

[Leandro Noferini]

Ennio-Sr  writes:

> Has any of you benn able to pair the subject keyboard with bluetooth
> under linux debian/jessie or stretch?

[...]

I have a bluetooth keyboard different model (the model without numeric
keys) and to pair in a debian stable I needed to install also the
bluez-firmware package: after this I paired with standard gnome tools.

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Re: Wife traducir a español

[Luis Enrique Araneda]

jajajaja Divan, enseñame a hacer eso pliss!!! ajajjaja

El 26 de enero de 2017, 11:19, Dixan Rivas  escribió:

> http://bfy.tw/9i4c
>
> Opino lo mismo que quien ha escrito antes: "Saca la mano del teclado!!"
>
> Gracias
>
>
> On 26/01/17 13:59, Amid Ale wrote:
>
> Sacá la mano del teclado!!
>
> 2017-01-26 0:42 GMT-03:00 YOLANDA PUENTE :
>
>>
>> Dddn
>> Kkkk
>> Enviado desde mi iPad
>>
>>
>
>


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Ingeniero en sistemas

Re: is /etc/rc.local nog steeds de plaats voor hardware (start) instellingen ?

[Geert Stappers]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 03:06:24PM +0100, Gijs Hillenius wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2017, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > Op 30-01-17 om 09:46 schreef Gijs Hillenius:
> >>
> >> Vroeger schreef ik wel eens wat dingen uit powertop naar
> >> /etc/rc.local
> >>
> >> Is dat nog steeds /de/ plek voor het aanpassen van hardware
> >> instellingen? Zoeken op google levert onder meer op dat ik nu iets in
> >> een eigen  /etc/init.d/bestandje zou moeten schrijven?
> >>
> >>
> >> Anders gevraagd -  waar stel ik instellingen voor mijn trackpoint in?
> >>
> >> echo 150  > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
> >> echo 180 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity
> >>

Zo juist het goede verhaal over 'libinput' gelezen van Sjoerd Hiemstra
wat nu op https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-dutch/2017/01/msg00019.html staat
 (ja, dat is een compliment aan Sjoerd )

> >>
> >
> > rc.local doet het nog steeds, in elk geval op Debian stable. Maar er
> > is vast een alternatief voor systemd.
> >
> > Een eigen /etc/init.d/bestandje kan ook, maar dan moet je ook iets als
> > "insserv bestandje" doen. Verder is het de ouderwetse manier, dus niet
> > de systemd manier.
> 
> vond inmiddels ook een verwijzing naar iets als
> 
> systemd-tmpfiles --prefix=/sys --create
> 
> waarbij je dan de instellingen in 
> /etc/tmpfiles.d/trackpoint.conf
> 
> zet.
> 
> Eerder deze ochtend ff snel geprobeerd, maar dat deed niets.
> 

Mijn websearch op '/etc/rc.local systemd' bracht me
bij https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28=132473
waar een /lib/systemd/system/myscript.service wordt aangemaakt
die dan weer bash en script aanroept.

Doe er jullie voordeel mee


Groeten
Geert Stappers
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Re: Recreating a second boot kernel in LILO

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 01/14/2017 05:38 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 10:05, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 1/14/2017 8:45 AM, Miroslav Skoric wrote:

Hello all,

Intro: I have been using LILO for ages. Now running Wheezy 7.11
LTS. As usual and for test purposes on older machines I have two
kernel flavours: 486 and 686-rt. In LILO boot menu they appear as
Linux486 and Linux686 (before renaming they were Linux and
LinuxOLD). Both work nice on two desktops of different age.

Anyway, few years ago I had a repetitive problem with the 686-rt
kernel slowing down the touch pad on a laptop, so I decided to
remove it completely. So in the LILO menu was left just one boot
option. Recently I decided to install 686-rt again, and during
the installation it added new config*, init.rd*, and vmlinuz*
into /boot, but it did not add any new init.rd* and vmlinuz*
links into /. And without that LILO still keeps one entry. Any
idea how to produce new links in / in order to recreate the
second boot entry? (In lilo.conf everything is the same as in
desktops, however /sbin/lilo complains about missing links in /)

M.S.


You may find Steve Powell's LILO Page useful -
http://www.stevesdebianstuff.org/lilo.htm
Also http://www.stevesdebianstuff.org/index.htm may be of interest.
HTH




The default installation of lilo assumes that the user is only interested
in booting the two most recently-installed kernels.  By Debian convention,
symbolic links are assigned to these kernels in / if "do_symlinks = yes"
is specified in /etc/kernel-img.conf.  The most recent kernel
is assigned the symbolic link name "vmlinuz", and the next-most-recent kernel
is assigned the symbolic link name "vmlinuz.old".  The same pattern is
followed with the initial RAM file system images that correspond to these
kernel images.  The most recent initial RAM file system image is given the
symbolic link name "initrd.img", and the next-most-recent initial RAM file
system image is given the symbolic link name "initrd.img.old".  If
"link_in_boot = yes" is present in /etc/kernel-img.conf, then these symbolic
links are maintained in /boot instead of in /.  However, these symbolic links
are maintained only for stock Debian kernels.  For custom kernels created
with make-kpkg or "make deb-pkg", "do_symlinks = yes" in /etc/kernel-img.conf
has no effect.  In my web page, referred to above by Richard Owlett, I provide
a reference to my kernel building web page where there are execs called
zy-symlinks which will provide equivalent function for custom kernels.

If there are special kernels that you want to be able to boot which are outside
the normal "last two", then you must manually edit /etc/lilo.conf to provide
the capability to boot this kernel, then run lilo.



Thank you all for your comments. Anyway, I think when I made the initial 
install several years ago (it was Squeeze 6.0.1a) it offered more than 
one kernel option for installation, so I probably chose two flavours to 
be installed, or something like that. So whenever a new kernel update 
appeared after that, it flawlessly updated both flavours (486 version & 
686-rt version). So I always ended with two new kernels, and I could 
test/use them interchangeably. Yes I know that was not in accord with 
best LILO practices, but it worked for me. And I also realized the risk 
of neither update to be of 100% quality, but what is a chance that both 
kernel flavours might fail in the same update cycle?


Anyway, I have managed to recreate a second boot kernel in LILO, so 
things work nice for now.


M.S.

Impossible to install debian-8.7.1-i386-netinst.iso

[Pierre Couderc]

On an old computer, with an USB keyboard, the install stops on the first 
screen.


The keyboard is not active (but it works fine in the bios !).

A similar problem is described in 
http://www.kasploosh.com/weblog/14000/14016-debian_jessie_usb_keyboard.html


Is there a workaround ?


Thanks

PC

Re: is /etc/rc.local nog steeds de plaats voor hardware (start) instellingen ?

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Gijs Hillenius:
> Anders gevraagd -  waar stel ik instellingen voor mijn trackpoint in?

Ik zie dat je Sid hebt. Sinds Stretch gaat het configureren van dit soort
input devices met iets dat 'libinput' heet.
Voor een goed begrip: als je xserver-xorg-input-libinput zou deïnstalleren,
dan zou Debian terugvallen op de oude manier, zoals die in Stable nog
steeds werkt, en die hier beschreven staat, met xset en xinput:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration

Hoe je een en ander met libinput instelt, staat hier heel aardig beschreven:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput
Je creëert dus /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-libinput.conf met de nodige
instellingen. Alle beschikbare opties vind je in de manpage van libinput.
Hier staat trouwens nog iets over pointer acceleration bij trackpoints:
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/pointer-acceleration.html

Bij mij was de muiscursorsnelheid te hoog, en die heb ik op deze manier lager
weten te zetten. Als voorbeeld hier mijn /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-libinput.conf:

Section "InputClass"
  Identifier "Logitech USB Laser Mouse"
  Driver "libinput"
  Option "AccelProfile" "flat"
  Option "AccelSpeed" "-0.5"
  Option "ButtonMapping" "1 0 3 4 5 6 7 2 9 10 11 12"
EndSection

De precieze 'Identifier' vond ik met xinput, zoals in bovengenoemde
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput beschreven.
'AccelSpeed' kan een waarde hebben tussen -1 en 1; negatief is langzamer.
Met 'ButtonMapping' heb ik wat verwisseld in de functie van de muisknoppen.
Op de oude manier ging dat met Xmodmap.
Met xbindkeys zijn aan de extra zijknoppen van een muis trouwens alle
mogelijke functies toe te wijzen.

Re: Oddity noticed installing caja-gksu, Bug?

[David Wright]

On Sun 29 Jan 2017 at 08:58:17 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I using Debian 8.6.0 [with *NO* updates] from set of purchased DVDs.
> I use the Mate desktop.
> 
> When I installed caja-gksu, it did not apparently have any effect
> until after a reboot. Is this expected?

Installation should affect new instances of caja. It won't affect any
caja instances already running at the time you installed caja-gksu.
Next time you install Debian, you could test examples of each type
of instance, before and after, to establish the presence of any bug.

> I found no indication either way in a web search.

I don't think one would expect to, unless you searched for "ldconfig".
Caja is just one program among thousands that would be expected to
behave in the same way. Try:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html

Cheers,
David.

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Re: How to reply a list message using Gmail with Evolution?

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 00:13:56 +0900
Mark Fletcher  wrote:

Hello Mark and River,

>seem to recall Google insist you connect to them using TLS or SSL -- no 
>insecure connections. Beyond that I recall it being straightforward.

From what I've read online over the past year or so they (google) now
also require that you allow 'insecure' software to connect to their
systems in your user preferences.  By the term insecure they mean 'not
written by google'.  Where the setting resides within their prefs pages,
I have no idea.

-- 
 Regards  _
 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
Early morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the make up
Strong - Robbie Williams


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Re: How to reply a list message using Gmail with Evolution?

[Mark Fletcher]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 02:40:34PM +0800, River Chiang wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> I use Firefox to read lists, when I clicked the link
> debian-user@lists.debian.org and tried to reply the message,
> Evolution's setup window showed. I tried to setup Evolution to use
> Gmail.
> Unfortunately I didn't make it.
> 
> What mail user agent you use to view/reply messages on this list?
> 
> Or how to setup Evolution to use a Gmail account?
> 

I use Gmail for this list. I have taught Inbox (Gmail) to put all 
messages for this forum into a user folder. Then I use fetchmail to 
download only that folder from Gmail and use mutt to read and/or reply 
to it on my local PC.

The one slight non-optimal element of this is I still need to mark the 
mails in that folder as "Done" occasionally in Inbox, but that is no 
great hardship.

I also separately have Evolution wired up to use Gmail, it was no 
particular sweat -- what in particular are you having trouble with? I do 
seem to recall Google insist you connect to them using TLS or SSL -- no 
insecure connections. Beyond that I recall it being straightforward.

Mark

Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

- Mensagem original -
> De: "Helio Loureiro" 
> Para: "Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana" 
> Cc: "DUP" 
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 30 de janeiro de 2017 12:04:38
> Assunto: Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

> Oi,
> 
> Esse "empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres" está esquisito.
> Parece algo depreciativo, como se mulheres tivessem de ter algo separado
> por serem mulheres, que tenho certeza que não é o caso, mas de inclusão e
> maior participação feminina.

Na descrição a gente explica melhor do que se trata justamente para não gerar 
essa confusão.

> Eu sugiro trocar para algo como "garotas debian - empacotamento de software
> e inclusão feminina".

hummm, gostei da proposta.
Vou alterar.

Abraços,

-- 
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
http://br2017.mini.debconf.org

Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)  
http://www.heforshe.org/pt

Re: ssd: trim/discard instellen of niet?

[Gijs Hillenius]

>> Op 22-01-17 om 13:55 schreef Bart Vliegen:
>> Hallo debian-nl,
>>
>> ik heb debian jessie geïnstalleerd op een samsung ssd 850. werkt
>> probleemloos.
>>
>> ik heb de info over ssd optimization op de debian wiki gelezen. het
>> lijkt vrij complex om discard/trim in te stellen. Ik lees echter op
>> andere plaatsen dat het niet meer echt nodig is om discard/trim te
>> gebruiken.
>>
>> hoe zien jullie dit?
>>
>> groet
>> Bart
>>
> On 30 Jan 2017, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>
> Hallo Bart,
>
> Ik doe nooit iets speciaals op het gebied van trim of discard, terwijl
> ik vele laptops verkoop. Ik heb ook klanten die hun SSD vaak helemaal
> vol hebben staan en ik hoor geen problemen.
>
> Bij versies ouder dan Jessie deed ik nog wel speciale dingen, wat weet
> ik zo uit mijn hoofd niet meer.
>
> Volgens mij staat hier wel zinvolle info:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives
>
> Groeten,
> Paul

Ben het met Paul eens, maar...uit mijn aantekeningen, dit doe ik met
mijn Debian unstable laptop


*FSTRIM*

http://blog.neutrino.es/2013/howto-properly-activate-trim-for-your-ssd-on-linux-fstrim-lvm-and-dmcrypt/

 /etc/crypttab  add ,discard (luks,discard)
 /etc/lvm/lvm.conf  issue_discards = 1
 /etc/cron.weekly/dofstrim 

,
|#! /bin/sh
| for mount in / /boot; do
|   fstrim $mount
| done
`

 update-initramfs -u 
 reboot


-- 
When you said "HEAVILY FORESTED" it reminded me of an overdue CLEANING
BILL ... Don't you SEE?  O'Grogan SWALLOWED a VALUABLE COIN COLLECTION
and HAD to murder the ONLY MAN who KNEW!!

Re: is /etc/rc.local nog steeds de plaats voor hardware (start) instellingen ?

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 30 Jan 2017, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

> Op 30-01-17 om 09:46 schreef Gijs Hillenius:
>>
>> Vroeger schreef ik wel eens wat dingen uit powertop naar
>> /etc/rc.local
>>
>> Is dat nog steeds /de/ plek voor het aanpassen van hardware
>> instellingen? Zoeken op google levert onder meer op dat ik nu iets in
>> een eigen  /etc/init.d/bestandje zou moeten schrijven?
>>
>>
>> Anders gevraagd -  waar stel ik instellingen voor mijn trackpoint in?
>>
>> echo 150  > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
>> echo 180 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity
>>
>> Dank
>>
>
> rc.local doet het nog steeds, in elk geval op Debian stable. Maar er
> is vast een alternatief voor systemd.
>
> Een eigen /etc/init.d/bestandje kan ook, maar dan moet je ook iets als
> "insserv bestandje" doen. Verder is het de ouderwetse manier, dus niet
> de systemd manier.

vond inmiddels ook een verwijzing naar iets als

systemd-tmpfiles --prefix=/sys --create

waarbij je dan de instellingen in 
/etc/tmpfiles.d/trackpoint.conf

zet.

Eerder deze ochtend ff snel geprobeerd, maar dat dee niets.

Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

[Helio Loureiro]

Oi,

Esse "empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres" está esquisito.
Parece algo depreciativo, como se mulheres tivessem de ter algo separado
por serem mulheres, que tenho certeza que não é o caso, mas de inclusão e
maior participação feminina.

Eu sugiro trocar para algo como "garotas debian - empacotamento de software
e inclusão feminina".

Abs,
Helio Loureiro
http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
https://se.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro

http://twitter.com/helioloureiro


Em 30 de janeiro de 2017 14:49, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <
p...@softwarelivre.org> escreveu:

> Oi Leonardo,
>
> Se eu disser que não, você vem pra Curitiba? :-)
>
> Ainda não temos certeza se vamos conseguir transmitir. Se houver, serão
> apenas as palestras.
> Mas queremos pelo menos filmar para disponibilizar depois.
>
> Abraços,
>
> - Mensagem original -
> > De: "leonardossr" 
> > Para: "Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana" 
> > Cc: "DUP" 
> > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 30 de janeiro de 2017 11:34:10
> > Assunto: Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível
>
> > Haverá transmissão dos eventos pela internet Paulo?
> >
> > 2017-01-30 10:04 GMT-02:00 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
> > :
> >> Olá,
> >>
> >> Já está disponível no site da MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 a programação de
> >> atividades.
> >> São palestras e oficinas de todos os níveis que ajudarão os iniciantes a
> >> conhecerem o Debian e os mais experientes a aprofundarem seus
> conhecimentos.
> >>
> >> A programação está sendo atualizada, mas já temos confirmados até agora:
> >>
> >> * Palestras e painéis:
> >> - Auditoria básica em servidores GNU/Linux com AIDE e AUDITD
> >> - Bootstrapping novas arquiteturas em Debian
> >> - Conheça o trabalho da equipe de tradução do Debian
> >> - Debate: eventos Debian Brasil em 2017
> >> - Debian: um universo em construção
> >> - Introdução Debian
> >> - Obtendo sua própria máquina Power
> >> - O sistema operacional universal e a educação
> >> - Painel: Debian Teams
> >> - Painel: perguntas e respostas sobre o desenvolvimento do Debian
> >> - ppc64el: conheça a arquitetura mais rápida de Debian hoje
> >> - Se prendendo com schroot
> >> - Teste automatizado de pacotes Debian
> >> - Ultimate Debian Database (UDD) e debian.net
> >> - Vivendo perigosamente!? Usando Debian unstable no dia-a-dia
> >>
> >> * Oficinas/Minicursos
> >> - Debian on gadgets
> >> - Empacotamento de software no Debian
> >> - Empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres
> >> - Inteligência artificial com Debian - configuração e exemplos práticos
> >> - Mantendo seu Debian SID saudável e sem coisas desnecessárias
> >>
> >> * Lightning talks
> >> - Acessando o root da sua mente com a hipnose
> >> - auto-apt-proxy: economize banda e tempo no download de pacotes
> >> - Conheça um pouco do Coletivo Riseup
> >> - Introdução ao idioma universal esperanto.
> >>
> >> * Ao longo dos três dias acontecerão ainda outras atividades
> permamentes como:
> >> - Instalação de Debian nos notebooks/computadores daqueles que
> precisarem.
> >> - Criação de chaves GPG.
> >> - BSP - Bug Squashing Party.
> >>
> >> Veja mais detalhes em:
> >> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org/programacao.shtml
> >>
> >> Abraços,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
> >> Curitiba - Brasil
> >> Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
> >> Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
> >> Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
> >> Site: http://www.phls.com.br
> >> GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450
> >>
> >> MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
> >> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org
> >>
> >> Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)
> >> http://www.heforshe.org/pt
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Atenciosamente,
> > (Best regards),
> >
> >
> > Leonardo Rocha
> > about.me/leonardo.rocha
>
> --
> Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
> Curitiba - Brasil
> Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
> Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
> Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
> Site: http://www.phls.com.br
> GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450
>
> MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org
>
> Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)
> http://www.heforshe.org/pt
>
>

Re: [hs] MySQL : utf8_general_ci ou utf8_unicode_ci ou utf8mb4_unicode_ci

[Dominique Asselineau]

Bonjour et merci de ces précisions.

Le contexte serait un peu plus large que le français mais ça resterait
parmi les langues européennes.  Dans ce cas utf8mb4_general_ci
serait-il toujours performant ?

Merci.

Dominique


Safranil wrote on Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:03:41AM +0100
> Bonjour,
> 
> En fait l'UTF-8 de MySQL ne respecte pas la norme Unicode et ne supporte
> que les caractères codés sur 3 octets (plan de base de l'Unicode), d'où
> l'ajout de l'utf8-mb4 (multibytes 4) pour supporter complétement la
> norme. À priori, cela ne vous posera pas de problème de choisir la
> version non mb4 mais je conseil tout de même d'utiliser l'utf8-mb4 par
> soucis de respect des normes.
> 
> Le fait que vous soyez sur Debian ou non ne changera en rien la gestion
> des caractères dans MySQL, le système ne fourni que le stockage des
> bases de données et non l'interprétation des caractères contenu à
> l'intérieur, rôle joué par le moteur de bases de données.
> 
> Pour la collation, j'utilise utf8mb4_bin car la comparaison des chaines
> de caractères sont effectué bit à bit (donc sensible à la casse) alors
> que les utf8mb4_xxx_ci compare les chaînes de caractères indépendamment
> de la casse (et accents il me semble) en appliquant des règles
> spécifiques à la langue. Si vous êtes dans le second cas, je vous
> conseil l'utf8mb4_general_ci qui gère parfaitement la langue française.
> 
> En espérant avoir répondu à vos questions.
> 
> Bonne soirée.
> 
> Le 29/01/2017 à 16:54, Dominique Asselineau a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Je souhaite passer mes bases de donnéeds en UTF-8 et je remarque
> > plusieurs régblages possibles.  D'après ce que je lis, il semble que le
> > réglage utf8mb4_unicode_ci soit le plus puissant et complet mais pas
> > sûr que ce soit le mieux adapté dans un environnement Debian.
> >
> > Ce serveur ne tourne qu'en localhost, pas d'accès de client extérieur
> > donc.  Il est seulement dépendant de l'environnement et locales de
> > Debian.  Toutefois des données peuvent entrer via des formuliares web.
> >
> > quelqu'un aurait-il un avis sur un réglage approprié des character set
> > et collation ?
> >
> > A+
> >
> > dom
> >
> 
> 




-- 

Re: bugs in reportbug ?

[Frank M]

On 30/01/17 12:59 AM, Andreas Ronnquist wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:37:42 -0500,
Frank M wrote:


Tried to file a bug today using reportbug but it crashed:


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2233, in 
 main()
   File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1084, in main
 if newui.initialize():
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line
1580, in initialize gi.require_version('Vte', '2.91')
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118, in
require_version raise ValueError('Namespace %s not available' %
namespace)
ValueError: Namespace Vte not available

Does this look familiar to anyone ?

I am running 64 bit stretch and reportbug is the latest version.


See #851968 [1] - you will need to install the packages gir1.2-vte-2.91
and python3-gi-cairo for the GTK+ interface to work.

1 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851968

-- Andreas Rönnquist
mailingli...@gusnan.se
gus...@openmailbox.org

  That solved it. I had python3-gi-cairo but was missing the second 
package.


  Thank you.

Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Oi Leonardo,

Se eu disser que não, você vem pra Curitiba? :-)

Ainda não temos certeza se vamos conseguir transmitir. Se houver, serão apenas 
as palestras.
Mas queremos pelo menos filmar para disponibilizar depois.

Abraços,

- Mensagem original -
> De: "leonardossr" 
> Para: "Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana" 
> Cc: "DUP" 
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 30 de janeiro de 2017 11:34:10
> Assunto: Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

> Haverá transmissão dos eventos pela internet Paulo?
> 
> 2017-01-30 10:04 GMT-02:00 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
> :
>> Olá,
>>
>> Já está disponível no site da MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 a programação de
>> atividades.
>> São palestras e oficinas de todos os níveis que ajudarão os iniciantes a
>> conhecerem o Debian e os mais experientes a aprofundarem seus conhecimentos.
>>
>> A programação está sendo atualizada, mas já temos confirmados até agora:
>>
>> * Palestras e painéis:
>> - Auditoria básica em servidores GNU/Linux com AIDE e AUDITD
>> - Bootstrapping novas arquiteturas em Debian
>> - Conheça o trabalho da equipe de tradução do Debian
>> - Debate: eventos Debian Brasil em 2017
>> - Debian: um universo em construção
>> - Introdução Debian
>> - Obtendo sua própria máquina Power
>> - O sistema operacional universal e a educação
>> - Painel: Debian Teams
>> - Painel: perguntas e respostas sobre o desenvolvimento do Debian
>> - ppc64el: conheça a arquitetura mais rápida de Debian hoje
>> - Se prendendo com schroot
>> - Teste automatizado de pacotes Debian
>> - Ultimate Debian Database (UDD) e debian.net
>> - Vivendo perigosamente!? Usando Debian unstable no dia-a-dia
>>
>> * Oficinas/Minicursos
>> - Debian on gadgets
>> - Empacotamento de software no Debian
>> - Empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres
>> - Inteligência artificial com Debian - configuração e exemplos práticos
>> - Mantendo seu Debian SID saudável e sem coisas desnecessárias
>>
>> * Lightning talks
>> - Acessando o root da sua mente com a hipnose
>> - auto-apt-proxy: economize banda e tempo no download de pacotes
>> - Conheça um pouco do Coletivo Riseup
>> - Introdução ao idioma universal esperanto.
>>
>> * Ao longo dos três dias acontecerão ainda outras atividades permamentes 
>> como:
>> - Instalação de Debian nos notebooks/computadores daqueles que precisarem.
>> - Criação de chaves GPG.
>> - BSP - Bug Squashing Party.
>>
>> Veja mais detalhes em:
>> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org/programacao.shtml
>>
>> Abraços,
>>
>> --
>> Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
>> Curitiba - Brasil
>> Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
>> Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
>> Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
>> Site: http://www.phls.com.br
>> GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450
>>
>> MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
>> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org
>>
>> Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)
>> http://www.heforshe.org/pt
>>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Atenciosamente,
> (Best regards),
> 
> 
> Leonardo Rocha
> about.me/leonardo.rocha

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Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
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Site: http://www.phls.com.br
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http://br2017.mini.debconf.org

Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)  
http://www.heforshe.org/pt

Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

[Daniel Lenharo de Souza]

Ainda não sabemos.

Estamos estudando uma maneira... mas não está 100% ainda.

Em 30-01-2017 11:34, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha escreveu:
> Haverá transmissão dos eventos pela internet Paulo?
> 
> 2017-01-30 10:04 GMT-02:00 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
> :
>> Olá,
>>
>> Já está disponível no site da MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 a programação de 
>> atividades.
>> São palestras e oficinas de todos os níveis que ajudarão os iniciantes a 
>> conhecerem o Debian e os mais experientes a aprofundarem seus conhecimentos.
>>
>> A programação está sendo atualizada, mas já temos confirmados até agora:
>>
>> * Palestras e painéis:
>> - Auditoria básica em servidores GNU/Linux com AIDE e AUDITD
>> - Bootstrapping novas arquiteturas em Debian
>> - Conheça o trabalho da equipe de tradução do Debian
>> - Debate: eventos Debian Brasil em 2017
>> - Debian: um universo em construção
>> - Introdução Debian
>> - Obtendo sua própria máquina Power
>> - O sistema operacional universal e a educação
>> - Painel: Debian Teams
>> - Painel: perguntas e respostas sobre o desenvolvimento do Debian
>> - ppc64el: conheça a arquitetura mais rápida de Debian hoje
>> - Se prendendo com schroot
>> - Teste automatizado de pacotes Debian
>> - Ultimate Debian Database (UDD) e debian.net
>> - Vivendo perigosamente!? Usando Debian unstable no dia-a-dia
>>
>> * Oficinas/Minicursos
>> - Debian on gadgets
>> - Empacotamento de software no Debian
>> - Empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres
>> - Inteligência artificial com Debian - configuração e exemplos práticos
>> - Mantendo seu Debian SID saudável e sem coisas desnecessárias
>>
>> * Lightning talks
>> - Acessando o root da sua mente com a hipnose
>> - auto-apt-proxy: economize banda e tempo no download de pacotes
>> - Conheça um pouco do Coletivo Riseup
>> - Introdução ao idioma universal esperanto.
>>
>> * Ao longo dos três dias acontecerão ainda outras atividades permamentes 
>> como:
>> - Instalação de Debian nos notebooks/computadores daqueles que precisarem.
>> - Criação de chaves GPG.
>> - BSP - Bug Squashing Party.
>>
>> Veja mais detalhes em:
>> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org/programacao.shtml
>>
>> Abraços,
>>
>> --
>> Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
>> Curitiba - Brasil
>> Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
>> Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
>> Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
>> Site: http://www.phls.com.br
>> GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450
>>
>> MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
>> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org
>>
>> Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)
>> http://www.heforshe.org/pt
>>
> 
> 
> 


sds
-- 
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Analista de Redes
+55 (41) 9.9933-8394
www.lenharo.eti.br
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Re: ssd: trim/discard instellen of niet?

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hallo Bart,

Ik doe nooit iets speciaals op het gebied van trim of discard, terwijl
ik vele laptops verkoop. Ik heb ook klanten die hun SSD vaak helemaal
vol hebben staan en ik hoor geen problemen.

Bij versies ouder dan Jessie deed ik nog wel speciale dingen, wat weet
ik zo uit mijn hoofd niet meer.

Volgens mij staat hier wel zinvolle info:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives

Groeten,
Paul



Op 22-01-17 om 13:55 schreef Bart Vliegen:
> Hallo debian-nl,
> 
> ik heb debian jessie geïnstalleerd op een samsung ssd 850. werkt probleemloos.
> 
> ik heb de info over ssd optimization op de debian wiki gelezen. het
> lijkt vrij complex om discard/trim in te stellen. Ik lees echter op
> andere plaatsen dat het niet meer echt nodig is om discard/trim te
> gebruiken.
> 
> hoe zien jullie dit?
> 
> groet
> Bart
> 



-- 
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https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: is /etc/rc.local nog steeds de plaats voor hardware (start) instellingen ?

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 30-01-17 om 09:46 schreef Gijs Hillenius:
> 
> Vroeger schreef ik wel eens wat dingen uit powertop naar /etc/rc.local
> 
> Is dat nog steeds /de/ plek voor het aanpassen van hardware
> instellingen? Zoeken op google levert onder meer op dat ik nu iets in
> een eigen  /etc/init.d/bestandje zou moeten schrijven?
> 
> 
> Anders gevraagd -  waar stel ik instellingen voor mijn trackpoint in?
> 
>  echo 150  > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
>  echo 180 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity
> 
> Dank
>

rc.local doet het nog steeds, in elk geval op Debian stable. Maar er is
vast een alternatief voor systemd.

Een eigen /etc/init.d/bestandje kan ook, maar dan moet je ook iets als
"insserv bestandje" doen. Verder is het de ouderwetse manier, dus niet
de systemd manier.

Groeten,
Paul





-- 
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https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

[Leonardo S. S. da Rocha]

Haverá transmissão dos eventos pela internet Paulo?

2017-01-30 10:04 GMT-02:00 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
:
> Olá,
>
> Já está disponível no site da MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 a programação de 
> atividades.
> São palestras e oficinas de todos os níveis que ajudarão os iniciantes a 
> conhecerem o Debian e os mais experientes a aprofundarem seus conhecimentos.
>
> A programação está sendo atualizada, mas já temos confirmados até agora:
>
> * Palestras e painéis:
> - Auditoria básica em servidores GNU/Linux com AIDE e AUDITD
> - Bootstrapping novas arquiteturas em Debian
> - Conheça o trabalho da equipe de tradução do Debian
> - Debate: eventos Debian Brasil em 2017
> - Debian: um universo em construção
> - Introdução Debian
> - Obtendo sua própria máquina Power
> - O sistema operacional universal e a educação
> - Painel: Debian Teams
> - Painel: perguntas e respostas sobre o desenvolvimento do Debian
> - ppc64el: conheça a arquitetura mais rápida de Debian hoje
> - Se prendendo com schroot
> - Teste automatizado de pacotes Debian
> - Ultimate Debian Database (UDD) e debian.net
> - Vivendo perigosamente!? Usando Debian unstable no dia-a-dia
>
> * Oficinas/Minicursos
> - Debian on gadgets
> - Empacotamento de software no Debian
> - Empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres
> - Inteligência artificial com Debian - configuração e exemplos práticos
> - Mantendo seu Debian SID saudável e sem coisas desnecessárias
>
> * Lightning talks
> - Acessando o root da sua mente com a hipnose
> - auto-apt-proxy: economize banda e tempo no download de pacotes
> - Conheça um pouco do Coletivo Riseup
> - Introdução ao idioma universal esperanto.
>
> * Ao longo dos três dias acontecerão ainda outras atividades permamentes como:
> - Instalação de Debian nos notebooks/computadores daqueles que precisarem.
> - Criação de chaves GPG.
> - BSP - Bug Squashing Party.
>
> Veja mais detalhes em:
> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org/programacao.shtml
>
> Abraços,
>
> --
> Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
> Curitiba - Brasil
> Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
> Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
> Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
> Site: http://www.phls.com.br
> GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450
>
> MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
> http://br2017.mini.debconf.org
>
> Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)
> http://www.heforshe.org/pt
>



-- 
Atenciosamente,
(Best regards),


Leonardo Rocha
about.me/leonardo.rocha

Re: Duvida Abrir Arquivos por default no gedit;

[Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le lun. 30 janv. 2017 à 11:22, Fernando Barradas 
 a écrit :


No Filezilla existe a opção de você associar a extensão do 
arquivo ao programa que irá abrí-lo.


Existe, mas o ideal é manter o Filezilla no padrão de usar as 
associações do sistema, e mudar pelo Nautilus (ou equivalente noutro 
ambiente).

Re: Duvida Abrir Arquivos por default no gedit;

[Fernando Barradas]

Bom dia Rodrigo,

este assunto tem a ver com associação da extensão do arquivo, pelo que
entendi.

No Filezilla existe a opção de você associar a extensão do arquivo ao
programa que irá abrí-lo.

Go to Edit -> Settings

Scroll down to File editing -> Filetype associations.

In the Custom filetype associations box, add the line html /usr/bin/gedit (and
remove any other line starting with html).
FONTE:
http://superuser.com/questions/159846/change-filezilla-settings-in-ubuntu-linux-so-view-edit-uses-gedit

Abç

Em 29 de janeiro de 2017 23:05, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA <
l...@dutras.org> escreveu:

> Le dim. 29 janv. 2017 à 22:20, Rodrigo Cunha 
> a écrit :
>
>> Não adianta, no meu caso eu abro o arquivo pelo filezilla e ele abre
>> direto como o libreoffice.
>>
>
> Adianta, sim, é só que o colega que respondeu primeiro esqueceu que
> trata-se de Debian GNU/Linux, não de MS Window$.
>
> No caso do Gnome, por exemplo, pegue um arquivo qualquer no
> Nautilus, e peça a janela de propriedades usando o menu contextual.  A
> terceira aba é para escolher o programa que abre o tipo de arquivo em
> questão.
>
>
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Re: How to reply a list message using Gmail with Evolution?

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 01/30/2017 01:40 AM, River Chiang wrote:

Hello List,

I use Firefox to read lists, when I clicked the link
debian-user@lists.debian.org and tried to reply the message,
Evolution's setup window showed. I tried to setup Evolution to use
Gmail.
Unfortunately I didn't make it.

What mail user agent you use to view/reply messages on this list?


I use Icedove (essentially our version of Thunderbird), which has a 
"Reply List" button




Or how to setup Evolution to use a Gmail account?


http://bfy.tw/9mI3

tony

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Re: créer une entrée pour pppconfig

[bernard . schoenacker]

- Mail original -
De: "bernard schoenacker" 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Lundi 30 Janvier 2017 12:39:07
Objet: créer une entrée pour pppconfig

bonjour,


pour l'instant j'utilise wvdial pour me connecter au net (solution temporaire) 
et je souhaiterai
basculer la config vers ppp

ci dessous le fichier wvdial pour s'en inspirer :

 [Dialer pin-free]
 Init1 = AT+CPIN=1234

 [Dialer Free]
 Init2 = ATZ
 Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0  
 Init4 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","free"
 Stupid mode = 1
 Phone = *99#
 New PPPD = yes
 Check Def Route = 1
 Username = free
 Password = free


merci pour votre aimable attention

slt
bernard

bonjour,

j'ai trouvé un rtfm très intéressant :

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd


bonne lecture


slt
bernard

MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017: programação disponível

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Olá,

Já está disponível no site da MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 a programação de 
atividades.
São palestras e oficinas de todos os níveis que ajudarão os iniciantes a 
conhecerem o Debian e os mais experientes a aprofundarem seus conhecimentos.

A programação está sendo atualizada, mas já temos confirmados até agora:

* Palestras e painéis:
- Auditoria básica em servidores GNU/Linux com AIDE e AUDITD
- Bootstrapping novas arquiteturas em Debian
- Conheça o trabalho da equipe de tradução do Debian
- Debate: eventos Debian Brasil em 2017
- Debian: um universo em construção
- Introdução Debian
- Obtendo sua própria máquina Power
- O sistema operacional universal e a educação
- Painel: Debian Teams
- Painel: perguntas e respostas sobre o desenvolvimento do Debian
- ppc64el: conheça a arquitetura mais rápida de Debian hoje
- Se prendendo com schroot
- Teste automatizado de pacotes Debian
- Ultimate Debian Database (UDD) e debian.net
- Vivendo perigosamente!? Usando Debian unstable no dia-a-dia

* Oficinas/Minicursos
- Debian on gadgets
- Empacotamento de software no Debian
- Empacotamento de software no Debian para mulheres
- Inteligência artificial com Debian - configuração e exemplos práticos
- Mantendo seu Debian SID saudável e sem coisas desnecessárias

* Lightning talks
- Acessando o root da sua mente com a hipnose
- auto-apt-proxy: economize banda e tempo no download de pacotes
- Conheça um pouco do Coletivo Riseup 
- Introdução ao idioma universal esperanto.

* Ao longo dos três dias acontecerão ainda outras atividades permamentes como:
- Instalação de Debian nos notebooks/computadores daqueles que precisarem.
- Criação de chaves GPG.
- BSP - Bug Squashing Party.

Veja mais detalhes em:
http://br2017.mini.debconf.org/programacao.shtml

Abraços,

-- 
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
http://br2017.mini.debconf.org

Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)  
http://www.heforshe.org/pt

créer une entrée pour pppconfig

[bernard . schoenacker]

bonjour,


pour l'instant j'utilise wvdial pour me connecter au net (solution temporaire) 
et je souhaiterai
basculer la config vers ppp

ci dessous le fichier wvdial pour s'en inspirer :

 [Dialer pin-free]
 Init1 = AT+CPIN=1234

 [Dialer Free]
 Init2 = ATZ
 Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0  
 Init4 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","free"
 Stupid mode = 1
 Phone = *99#
 New PPPD = yes
 Check Def Route = 1
 Username = free
 Password = free


merci pour votre aimable attention

slt
bernard

Re: Early boot became slower

[Felix Miata]

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard composed on 2017-01-30 08:45 (UTC):


It's really simple.  It's the same size monitor.  The "normal"
characters are high resolution 24-bit colour graphics mode with 8*16
pixel glyphs, giving 240 columns by 67 rows.  The "huge" characters are
VGA text mode at 80 columns by 25 rows, giving glyphs that are in effect
more than 24*32 pixels.


At what point exactly within either of those videos does 80 by 25 appear? All I 
saw anywhere appeared to be in the vicinity of 240 by 67.


Is there something simpler than 'echo $ROWS $COLUMNS' or 'tput lines';'tput 
cols' to show the row and column count on a vtty one is using? Fbset leaves that 
info out of its report.

--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

is /etc/rc.local nog steeds de plaats voor hardware (start) instellingen ?

[Gijs Hillenius]

Vroeger schreef ik wel eens wat dingen uit powertop naar /etc/rc.local

Is dat nog steeds /de/ plek voor het aanpassen van hardware
instellingen? Zoeken op google levert onder meer op dat ik nu iets in
een eigen  /etc/init.d/bestandje zou moeten schrijven?


Anders gevraagd -  waar stel ik instellingen voor mijn trackpoint in?

 echo 150  > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
 echo 180 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity

Dank

nosh version 1.32

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

The nosh package is now up to version 1.32 .

* http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/

* 
https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Project


* http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/

This release fixes two problems with Gentoo Linux (control group version 
detection and a problem with mounting API filesystems) that we hashed 
out on the Supervision mailing list.  It furthermore contains a change 
to the way that convert-systemd-units generates service bundles that 
fixes problems with control group setup when the service unit defines a 
"slice" for the service or when the service unit is a template. In 
furtherance of that there's a new create-control-group command.


Other things in this release include improvements to the (unpackaged) Z 
Shell command-line completions, which now display option completion 
menus properly; some improvements to the Terminals chapter in the Guide; 
fixes to various service bundles that were using shell reserved words 
and operators such as "for" and "&&" without explicitly invoking the 
shell; additions to userenv for setting DBus and XDG Runtime variables; 
and a fix that prevents "system-control reset" from looping indefinitely 
when run by an unprivileged user such as "messagebus" that lacks access 
to the control/status API.


The major improvement in this release, though, is to console-fb-realizer 
on TrueOS.


FreeBSD gives console-fb-realizer uhid device files to use for input 
devices, which speak the USB HID report protocol and which 
console-fb-realizer has been happy with for a long time.  TrueOS 
provides either ums/ukbd devices, which lack various features because 
they speak the old sysmouse and atkbd protocols, or ugen devices.  There 
are no uhid devices available. console-fb-realizer can now use the ugen 
devices.  Moreover, it will detach the ums/ukbd drivers from the ugen 
devices using the new detach-kernel-usb-driver command, so that there 
aren't two things both attempting to read HID reports.


console-fb-realizer also now correctly sets the keyboard LEDs on both 
FreeBSD and TrueOS.


There have been several minor adjustments to the kernel VT sharing parts 
of console-fb-realizer, preparatory to splitting the program up into 
separate parts for input and output devices, permitting things such as 
multiple keyboards each with its own keyboard map and numlock semantics, 
in a future release.

Early boot became slower

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

Mattia Oss:


This can be seen in the 3rd video.


Lisi Reisz:


By you. Not by me - nor apparently by Felix.



It's really simple.  It's the same size monitor.  The "normal" 
characters are high resolution 24-bit colour graphics mode with 8*16 
pixel glyphs, giving 240 columns by 67 rows.  The "huge" characters are 
VGA text mode at 80 columns by 25 rows, giving glyphs that are in effect 
more than 24*32 pixels.


As for why graphics mode has slowed down going from simple-framebuffer 
to vesafb, consider this and its implications:



vesafb: scrolling: redraw