Re: All of my enoX interfaces are mapped to eth0

2018-03-30 Thread David Parker
They are all on the same subnet, yes. But I haven't ever seen this behavior before. Normally, when I have an interface which is unplugged, its IP is unreachable. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:30 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 22:01:23 (-0400), David

Re: XFCE problems

2018-03-30 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 31/03/18 11:45, Dennis Wicks wrote: I use XFCE and usually my name, the clock and some other stuff is at the right of the top status(?) bar and the App icon and window names are at the left. And they stay there. Something has changed. everything is bunched up to the left and changes in size

Re: A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-03-30 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 31/03/18 07:26, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 03/30/2018 01:01 PM, Curt wrote: On 2018-03-30, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have upgraded Firefox to Firefox Quantum, currently v-59.0.2 (64-bit).  Unasked for by me every time that I run a search I get 6 search

wifi on debian standard install

2018-03-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
I found out wpa_passphrase is on the debian disk1 though located in /sbin not /usr/bin. I also found after having run wpa_passphrase and copying the hex string password from its output and replacing the insecure passphrase left in /etc/network/interfaces once that file had been copied to the

Re: All of my enoX interfaces are mapped to eth0

2018-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 22:01:23 (-0400), David Parker wrote: > That's what I thought, too. As you pointed out, the logs show each eno > interface being assigned to a different MAC address. However, I am able to > assign IP addresses to any (or all) of those interfaces and then ping them > from a

Re: changing local domain name

2018-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 19:24:21 (+0100), Brian wrote: > I do not know where the OP is coming from or, without further detail, > where he wants to go. AIUI or thought I did, the OP wants to change their host foo's domainname from foo.local to foo.home. > > > > On 2018-03-29, mick crane

Re: All of my enoX interfaces are mapped to eth0

2018-03-30 Thread David Parker
That's what I thought, too. As you pointed out, the logs show each eno interface being assigned to a different MAC address. However, I am able to assign IP addresses to any (or all) of those interfaces and then ping them from a different machine, even though the first interface is the only one

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 31/03/18 05:57, der.hans wrote: > Captcha is still annoying and needs an "I am a cyborg" option. Cloudfare is an issue, I'm growing to hate it as much as Google, perhaps more. CF relies upon Google for captcha, why can't they use and create their own? I would prefer a captcha from DDG, at

Re: All of my enoX interfaces are mapped to eth0

2018-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 16:19:30 (-0400), David Parker wrote: > Hello, > > I have two identical HP servers running Debian 9. One of them is a clean > install of 9, whereas the other was upgraded from Debian 8. > > The one that was upgraded has no networking issues (indeed, it still uses > the

Re: Baixa resolució del monitor

2018-03-30 Thread Albert Miralles Zurrón
(Sento el reiterat SPAM, vaig buscant informació i me vaig trobant de nova) El paquet encara el pots trobar compilat a Debian wheezy, que encara te support LTS fins a maig de 2018. https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-sis i la última versió de la dependencia xorg-core es =>

Re: Baixa resolució del monitor

2018-03-30 Thread Albert Miralles Zurrón
De qualsevol manera, i pas que no tinguis xf86-video-sis: si el kernel te access a una resolució superior de pantalla, pots aprofitar i fer servir el modul FBDEV. Si no igualment la opció xf86-video-vesa es una bona candidata per solucionar la sortida de video si xf86-video-sis falla. 2018-03-31

xfce problems

2018-03-30 Thread Dennis Wicks
I use xfce and until a few days ago my name, the clock and a few other things were at the right of the top panel and the app icon and the window icons in the current workspace were at the left. All of a sudden everything slides over to the left of the panel and changes size depending on how many

Re: XFCE problems

2018-03-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I use XFCE and usually my name, the clock and some other > stuff is at the right of the top status(?) bar and the App > icon and window names are at the left. And they stay there. > Something has changed. everything is

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/30/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2018 08:44:53 AM Curt wrote: >> On 2018-03-30, Tomaž Šolc wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > On 27. 03. 2018 03:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I have what might be called a "religious" aversion to

XFCE problems

2018-03-30 Thread Dennis Wicks
I use XFCE and usually my name, the clock and some other stuff is at the right of the top status(?) bar and the App icon and window names are at the left. And they stay there. Something has changed. everything is bunched up to the left and changes in size depending on how many windows I have in

Re: Help needed with home network configuration

2018-03-30 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:13:30 - (UTC) Dan Purgert wrote: > Joe wrote: > > [...] > > I'd have thought that hardwired hubs are long gone, that all devices > > with multiple Ethernet ports are switches and therefore software-based. > > Indeed, many routers can be configured as

Re: Installing Debian 9

2018-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
> On 2018-03-24 00:34, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: >> On 24/03/18 10:20,   wrote: >>> Hello, I am trying to install Debian 9 as a primary OS on an Acer Aspire 5 >>> Laptop. During the installation process I get a message stating; “Debian 9 >>> Detect network hardware Some of your hardware needs

Debian Testing Arduino

2018-03-30 Thread Ricardo Delgado
Buenas tardes, Les consulto lo siguiente, instale arduino desde repositorios testing y al ejecutar el IDE me sale este msj java.lang.NullPointerException thrown while loading gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver Basta decir que no puedo conectarme a ningun arduino. Googlee

All of my enoX interfaces are mapped to eth0

2018-03-30 Thread David Parker
Hello, I have two identical HP servers running Debian 9. One of them is a clean install of 9, whereas the other was upgraded from Debian 8. The one that was upgraded has no networking issues (indeed, it still uses the ethX interface names). However, the one that was installed from scratch is

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:57:23PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > See > https://github.com/linux-pam/linux-pam/blob/master/modules/pam_env/pam_env.c#L668 Oh, look, a pam_syslog call. I didn't think to check logs. Mar 30 15:45:01 wooledg CRON[28166]: pam_env(cron:session): Unknown PAM_ITEM:

Re: Installing Debian 9

2018-03-30 Thread Stefan Rhodin
Hi. What I do is add "contrib non-free" on every line after the word main in /etc/apt/sources.list. Minus the " " of course. Then I type apt update and let it run its course. Then type apt install firmware-linux-nonfree and reboot. That should take care of it hopefully. On 2018-03-24

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:11:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > That's why you need @{HOME}, not ${HOME}. > > Same result. > > $ tail -2 /etc/security/pam_env.conf > FOO DEFAULT=@{HOME}/bar > LANG DEFAULT=en_US.UTF-8

Re: A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-03-30 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-30, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >>> Has anyone figured out how to get rid of the blasted thing? No, I >>> really don't want to switch browsers. >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-suggestions-firefox >> >> Which says: >> >>un-check() the Provide

Re: Baixa resolució del monitor

2018-03-30 Thread Josep Lladonosa
Hola, Ferran, Potser t'ajuda això: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6=120734=fdada6c8d00d5084644af5e28fe1dd73=30 2018-03-30 21:16 GMT+02:00 ilion1250 : > Bona tarda, > > Acudeixo a la llista com a darrer recurs abans de donar-me per vençut. > > He goglejat tot el

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:11:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 1) ${HOME} is in fact NOT available to pam_env.conf at least for the > > ssh "application" of PAM, despite being used in the documentation. > > That's why you need @{HOME}, not ${HOME}.

Baixa resolució del monitor

2018-03-30 Thread ilion1250
Bona tarda, Acudeixo a la llista com a darrer recurs abans de donar-me per vençut. He goglejat tot el goglejable però no hi ha manera de trobar una solució, de fet es possible que no en tingui. Sóc el desafortunat propietari d'un ordinador portàtil ASUS X58C, crec que és del 2009 i per

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote: > 1) ${HOME} is in fact NOT available to pam_env.conf at least for the > ssh "application" of PAM, despite being used in the documentation. That's why you need @{HOME}, not ${HOME}. [...] > In conclusion, pam_env.so still can't do either of the two

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Glenn English
My domain is slsware.*, and I run bash. Therefore I created /etc/sls/ and wrote a little script in that directory called slswaredefs.sh and sourced it near the bottom of everybody's .bashrc. For more/other shells, write in Perl/Python and switch on shell in the list of of environment variables

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread der.hans
Am 30. Mar, 2018 schwätzte rhkra...@gmail.com so: moin moin, As I sometimes (often?) do, just commenting on a few points: On Friday, March 30, 2018 04:39:05 AM der.hans wrote: Am 26. Mar, 2018 schwätzte Richard Hector so: On 26/03/18 04:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: We can add character

Re: Stupid question about Debian keyboard keys and Swedish alphabet

2018-03-30 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)
[Alt Gr] [o] [a] should work. http://stefaanlippens.net/accented-characters-on-qwerty-keyboard/ /Staffan 2018-03-30 15:08 GMT+02:00 Helio Loureiro : > Hi, > > It is probably a dumb question for most of people here but... I do have all > my keyboards in English. I can use

Re: A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-03-30 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 03/30/2018 01:01 PM, Curt wrote: On 2018-03-30, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Debian Stretch on my Linux platform and have a rather annoying problem. I have upgraded Firefox to Firefox Quantum, currently v-59.0.2 (64-bit). Unasked for by me every time that

Re: changing local domain name

2018-03-30 Thread Brian
I do not know where the OP is coming from or, without further detail, where he wants to go. On Thu 29 Mar 2018 at 21:07:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 29 Mar 2018 at 23:05:06 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 29 Mar 2018 at 18:34:42 +, Curt wrote: > > > > > On 2018-03-29, mick crane

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
Well, bad news. The /etc/security/pam_env.conf stuff is just as useless as /etc/environment. I tested two things. I placed the following two lines in the file: FOO DEFAULT=${HOME}/bar LANGDEFAULT=en_US.UTF-8 Then I did an "ssh localhost". The resulting login shell had

Re: Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread der.hans
Am 30. Mar, 2018 schwätzte rhkra...@gmail.com so: moin moin, I tend to keep my created data in ~/local/, so ~/local/bin/, ~/local/etc/, ~/local/sandbox/, ~/local/data/, etc. I then link some of the dotfiles I want to preserve into ~/local/etc/, e.g. .mozilla, .screenrc and .vim. I haven't

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:09:48AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I have an extremely simple real-world litmus test which every system > > I've ever seen so far has failed: > > > > How do I set MAIL=$HOME/Maildir/ in the login environment of every >

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I have an extremely simple real-world litmus test which every system > I've ever seen so far has failed: > > How do I set MAIL=$HOME/Maildir/ in the login environment of every > user, regardless of their shell, or how they log in (console, ssh, >

Re: A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-03-30 Thread songbird
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on my Linux platform and have a rather > annoying problem. > > I have upgraded Firefox to Firefox Quantum, currently v-59.0.2 > (64-bit). Unasked for by me every time that I run a search I get 6 > search recommendations. > > Google has

Re: A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-03-30 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-30, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on my Linux platform and have a rather > annoying problem. > > I have upgraded Firefox to Firefox Quantum, currently v-59.0.2 > (64-bit). Unasked for by me every time that I run a search I get 6 >

A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-03-30 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Debian Stretch on my Linux platform and have a rather annoying problem. I have upgraded Firefox to Firefox Quantum, currently v-59.0.2 (64-bit). Unasked for by me every time that I run a search I get 6 search recommendations. Google has come up with how to remove the pocket,

Re: Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 30, 2018 11:17:32 AM Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > There's ~/.config > (https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/file-hierarchy.html#~/.co > nfig) . Many apps use it, but still the majority uses ~ directly (and > probably allways will). And now to comment on the above

Re: Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 30, 2018 11:17:32 AM Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > There's ~/.config > (https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/file-hierarchy.html#~/.co > nfig) . Many apps use it, but still the majority uses ~ directly (and > probably allways will). True, but I mainly wanted to

Re: changing local domain name

2018-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 08:05:31 (+0200), john doe wrote: > On 3/29/2018 9:56 PM, mick crane wrote: > >On 2018-03-29 19:34, Curt wrote: > >>On 2018-03-29, mick crane wrote: > >>>following recent about hostname it seems I've been under > >>>misunderstanding that ".local" was OK

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 04:20:53PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:40:21 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > > > It won't do any good, because: > > > > # ls -al /sys/module/nouveau/parameters/noaccel > > -r 1 root root 4096 Mar 30

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have an extremely simple real-world litmus test which every system > I've ever seen so far has failed: > > How do I set MAIL=$HOME/Maildir/ in the login environment of every > user, regardless of their shell, or how they log in (console, ssh, > X Display Manager, GNOME Display Manager,

Re: Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 30-03-2018 11:47, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > * with that in mind, some of my proposals to various people (including > the > FHS) included things like creating a new directory, then keeping one named > /home and naming the new one either something like /data (for real user data, > and keeping

Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 30, 2018 09:57:02 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Anyway, these days, I store all my "real user data" in directories other > than ~, these include directories like /01, /02, (e.g., > /bob01, /bob02, /back01, back02), and I have no fear / reluctance to > create other such top level

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:40:21 +0300 Reco wrote: > > It won't do any good, because: > > # ls -al /sys/module/nouveau/parameters/noaccel > -r 1 root root 4096 Mar 30 > 14:37 /sys/module/nouveau/parameters/noaccel > > Permissions of '400' in these case mean

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 09:59:22 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:42:34PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > I think that login.conf is a step in the right direction, and I'm planning > > on making tools that support it. Or, rather, on making the tools that > >

Re: Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 09:57:02AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > It (the stuff stored as hidden files) is what I now call "user configuration > data" as opposed to what I call "real user data", which I define as files > I've > created or intentionally captured / stored--things like text

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 30, 2018 08:44:53 AM Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-30, Tomaž Šolc wrote: > > Hi > > > > On 27. 03. 2018 03:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I have what might be called a "religious" aversion to storing what I=20 > >> consider "real" user data in /home. > > >

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:42:34PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > I think that login.conf is a step in the right direction, and I'm planning > on making tools that support it. Or, rather, on making the tools that > already support it on the BSDs also support it on Linux operating

Storing "real" user data: was: Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 30, 2018 07:54:03 AM Tomaž Šolc wrote: > Hi > > On 27. 03. 2018 03:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have what might be called a "religious" aversion to storing what I > > consider "real" user data in /home. > > I'm curious. Why do you have this aversion and where do you store

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread rhkramer
As I sometimes (often?) do, just commenting on a few points: On Friday, March 30, 2018 04:39:05 AM der.hans wrote: > Am 26. Mar, 2018 schwätzte Richard Hector so: > > On 26/03/18 04:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > We can add character set requirements and most sites now allow 30+ > characters,

Stupid question about Debian keyboard keys and Swedish alphabet

2018-03-30 Thread Helio Loureiro
Hi, It is probably a dumb question for most of people here but... I do have all my keyboards in English. I can use it to write in English and Portuguese, where I can create characters like "ç" using +"," or '+c. For é, '+e. For ô, ^+o. Some Swedish characters do work fine, like ö and ä using

Re: changing local domain name

2018-03-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 08:34:21 +, Curt wrote: > Three strikes and you're out. You are much too hard on yourself. Without your mail the wiki mistake, which has since been dealt with, would not have come to light. Keep batting! -- Brian.

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-30, Tomaž Šolc wrote: > > Hi > > On 27. 03. 2018 03:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> I have what might be called a "religious" aversion to storing what I=20 >> consider "real" user data in /home. > > I'm curious. Why do you have this aversion and where do you

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 02:40:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. [...] > It won't do any good, because: > > # ls -al /sys/module/nouveau/parameters/noaccel > -r 1 root root 4096 Mar 30 14:37 > /sys/module/nouveau/parameters/noaccel

Re: Update: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread Tomaž Šolc
Hi On 27. 03. 2018 03:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I have what might be called a "religious" aversion to storing what I > consider "real" user data in /home. I'm curious. Why do you have this aversion and where do you store "real" user data? This is the first time I've heard about not

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:50:46AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 04:50:06AM -0300, rv riveravaldez wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Stefan Monnier > > wrote: > > >> I'm running with a 'nouveau.noaccel=1' kernel

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread Morel Bérenger
Hello. Le Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:50:06 -0300, rv riveravaldez a écrit : > 'Permiso denegado' means 'Permission denied'. > > > What else shoud/could I do? Maybe you could try to unload the module before changing it's setup? -- SGA Automation 27 Rue Jean-Philippe

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 04:50:06AM -0300, rv riveravaldez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Stefan Monnier > wrote: > >> I'm running with a 'nouveau.noaccel=1' kernel parameter added at hand > > [...] > >> Is there

Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations

2018-03-30 Thread der.hans
Am 26. Mar, 2018 schwätzte Richard Hector so: moin moin, On 26/03/18 04:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I started reading up on password managers in order to consider using one. I use the keepass family - KeePassX on Debian, KeePassDroid on Android. I believe Windows and Mac versions are

Re: changing local domain name

2018-03-30 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-30, David Wright wrote: >> >> https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.config-printing.html >> >> Bug#187954. > > Yep, rebooting will recreate that file anyway, because /var/run is > just /run, and therefore ephemeral. I was just blindly

Re: Activate/deactivate kernel parameters without reboot

2018-03-30 Thread rv riveravaldez
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I'm running with a 'nouveau.noaccel=1' kernel parameter added at hand > [...] >> Is there any way to deactivate and reactivate such a parameter without >> the need to reboot? > > You can try and change it with >

Re: how do you send mail to another user on a local debian machine

2018-03-30 Thread Teemu Likonen
Teemu Likonen [2018-03-30 08:34:26+03] wrote: > (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-smtpmail-send-it) > (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) It also seems that I should actually think because I'm mixing up things. smtpmail-send-it function is for SMTP protocol (not sendmail

Re: changing local domain name

2018-03-30 Thread john doe
On 3/29/2018 9:56 PM, mick crane wrote: On 2018-03-29 19:34, Curt wrote: On 2018-03-29, mick crane wrote: following recent about hostname it seems I've been under misunderstanding that ".local" was OK so now I change local domain to ".home" . It's not just domainname and