Re: System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Felix Miata
Ben Caradoc-Davies composed on 2018-05-10 17:13 (UTC+1200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> It's a 7 year old budget notebook. Likely either 7 years of heat has taken a >> toll on some heat sensitive component, or dust accumulation is _causing_ >> overheating that might be overcome by a cleaning. Maybe

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Still an xpdf user after all these years. But... since I now have a laptop that has a touchscreen, is there one that supports a swipe interface (as in, I swipe left on the page I'm currently looking at and it goes to the next page)?

Re: System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 10/05/18 15:40, Felix Miata wrote: You could have looked it up: https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-aspire-v5-121-0430-11-6-c-70-4-gb-ram-320-gb-hdd/specs/ This would not have answered my question: "What video drivers and version?" It's a 7 year old budget notebook. Likely either 7 years

Re: System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Felix Miata
Ben Caradoc-Davies composed on 2018-05-10 15:17 (UTC+1200): > Alexander Beerhoff wrote: ... >> I’ve found increasing heavier problems using web browser. In earlier stage >> the “system” freeze (no ctrl-alt-function-key response) when watching long >> video online (say at least 30 min, say on you

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread rv riveravaldez
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 09/05/18 06:37 PM, Long Wind wrote: > >> i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org >> >> as an example and for test purpose:introductiontomo00plet.pdf >> >> but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 10/05/18 13:37, Long Wind wrote: i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org as an example and for test purpose: introductiontomo00plet.pdf but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them which program can you recommend? Thanks! I use and recommend qpdfview.

Re: System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 10/05/18 09:17, Alexander Beerhoff wrote: Dear Debian Team, I’ve found increasing heavier problems using web browser. In earlier stage the “system” freeze (no ctrl-alt-function-key response) when watching long video online (say at least 30 min, say on you tube.com), now (as consequence of

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Re: Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-05-09 at 16:20, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 08 May 2018 at 22:39:55 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: >> What method are you using to delete it? >> >> If you haven't already, I'd recommend trying 'rm -r', *very* >> carefully, from a command prompt. (Unless you have an extremely >> unusual

(solved) Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Long Wind
Thank Gene Heskett, Celejar, Celejar and Ben Finney i've just installed evince but i won't abandon acrobat reader because i don't need advanced and latest feature Thank Charlie Gibbs but i'm afraid xpdf is too old On Thursday, May 10, 2018, 10:17:49 AM GMT+8, Gene

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 09/05/18 06:37 PM, Long Wind wrote: i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org as an example and for test purpose:introductiontomo00plet.pdf but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slowin displaying them which program can you recommend? Thanks! If all else fails,

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 09 May 2018 21:58:12 Ben Finney wrote: > Long Wind writes: > > but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying > > them > > Acrobat Reader is non-free software, which means the GNU+Linux > community cannot do anything to improve that software. >

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 10 May 2018 01:37:19 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org > as an example and for test purpose: introductiontomo00plet.pdf > > but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them > > which program

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Ben Finney
Long Wind writes: > but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them Acrobat Reader is non-free software, which means the GNU+Linux community cannot do anything to improve that software. What's more, even Adobe is no longer supporting that program on

which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Long Wind
i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org as an example and for test purpose: introductiontomo00plet.pdf but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them which program can you recommend? Thanks!

Re: System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Carl Fink
On 05/09/2018 05:17 PM, Alexander Beerhoff wrote: Dear Debian Team, I’ve found increasing heavier problems using web browser. In earlier stage the “system” freeze (no ctrl-alt-function-key response) when watching long video online (say at least 30 min, say on you tube.com ),

Re: System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Bob Weber
On 5/9/18 5:17 PM, Alexander Beerhoff wrote: Dear Debian Team, I’ve found increasing heavier problems using web browser. In earlier stage the “system” freeze (no ctrl-alt-function-key response) when watching long video online (say at least 30 min, say on you tube.com ), now

Re: Emails

2018-05-09 Thread Dominic Knight
On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 17:22 +0100, David wrote: > On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 21:16 +0900, likcoras wrote: > > On 05/09/2018 09:01 PM, David wrote: > > > I currently use Evolution for my emails with Debian 8. > > > > > > The version in the repository is very old, I'm currently using > > > V3.12. > > >

Re: gnome: pavé numérique inactif au login [Résolu...mais sans savoir comment]

2018-05-09 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Bonjour, merci d'abord aux personnes ayant répondu à ce fil. Mon problème s'est résolu...par les mystères absolument incompréhensibles de l'informatique! En fait, il s'est passé exactement la même chose que lors d'une dernière installation de stretch: j'ai tenté énormément de choses, aucune

Re: Distinguishing among [unmount, Safely Remove Drive, Eject]

2018-05-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-05-09, Brian wrote: > On Wed 09 May 2018 at 12:50:29 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 05/06/2018 09:42 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> > On 05/06/2018 09:26 AM, Brian wrote: >> > > On Sun 06 May 2018 at 15:53:05 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: >> > > >> > > > On

System freeze using web browsers

2018-05-09 Thread Alexander Beerhoff
Dear Debian Team, I’ve found increasing heavier problems using web browser. In earlier stage the “system” freeze (no ctrl-alt-function-key response) when watching long video online (say at least 30 min, say on you tube.com), now (as consequence of system update??) cannot use any browser: tried

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Re: Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 03:20:06PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > remove-empties () > { > [ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage: $FUNCNAME directories ... > removes any empty directories under the directories given after > prompting." 1>&2 && return 1; > local IFS=" > "; >

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Re: Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread David Wright
On Tue 08 May 2018 at 22:39:55 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-05-08 at 13:48, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 05/08/2018 10:38 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > > >> Have you tried > >> > >> stat /home/richard/.local/share/Trash/expunged/1449727740/grub2 > >> problem-2018-02-13/ > >> > >>

Re: Distinguishing among [unmount, Safely Remove Drive, Eject]

2018-05-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 May 2018 at 13:01:09 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/08/2018 02:09 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 06 May 2018 at 07:27:17 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I'm running Debian 9 with MATE. > > > My observed symptoms were initially observed related to what choices given > > > when

Re: Distinguishing among [unmount, Safely Remove Drive, Eject]

2018-05-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 May 2018 at 12:50:29 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/06/2018 09:42 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 05/06/2018 09:26 AM, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 06 May 2018 at 15:53:05 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > > > > > > On 06/05/18 07:35, Brian wrote: > > > > > On Sat 05 May 2018 at

Re: gnome: pavé numérique inactif au login

2018-05-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Wed, 9 May 2018 19:03:19 +0200 Jean-Marc écrivait : > Wed, 9 May 2018 17:08:44 +0200 > Frédéric Baldit écrivait : > > > Bonjour, > > salut, > > > > > suite à ne réinstallation de stretch je n'arrive plus à > > rendre le pavé numérique actif par

Re: Distinguishing among [unmount, Safely Remove Drive, Eject]

2018-05-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/08/2018 02:09 PM, Brian wrote: On Sun 06 May 2018 at 07:27:17 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9 with MATE. My observed symptoms were initially observed related to what choices given when right clicking on the icon associated with a partition. Are you at liberty to talk

Re: gnome: pavé numérique inactif au login

2018-05-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Wed, 9 May 2018 17:08:44 +0200 Frédéric Baldit écrivait : > Bonjour, salut, > > suite à ne réinstallation de stretch je n'arrive plus à > rendre le pavé numérique actif par défaut au login de gdm3. À défaut de rendre le pavé numérique actif, j'ai configuré gnome en

Re: Distinguishing among [unmount, Safely Remove Drive, Eject]

2018-05-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/06/2018 09:42 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/06/2018 09:26 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 06 May 2018 at 15:53:05 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: On 06/05/18 07:35, Brian wrote: On Sat 05 May 2018 at 11:06:25 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: What are the distinguishing features of unmount, Safely

Re: Emails

2018-05-09 Thread David
On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 21:16 +0900, likcoras wrote: > On 05/09/2018 09:01 PM, David wrote: > > I currently use Evolution for my emails with Debian 8. > > > > The version in the repository is very old, I'm currently using V3.12. > > > > Is there a method for me to access a repository with a newer

Re: gnome: pavé numérique inactif au login

2018-05-09 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Frédéric Baldit" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Mai 2018 17:08:44 > Objet: gnome: pavé numérique inactif au login > > > Bonjour, > > suite à ne réinstallation de stretch je n'arrive plus à > rendre le

Re: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread fab
'lut, ./gtech-volt: line 17: [: 274.8: integer expression expected tu compares des chaines. Essaye un "=" à la place de ton "-eq" ? f.

gnome: pavé numérique inactif au login

2018-05-09 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Bonjour, suite à ne réinstallation de stretch je n'arrive plus à rendre le pavé numérique actif par défaut au login de gdm3. J'ai essayé: * install. du paquet numlockx * ajout, dans /etc/gdm3/Init/Default des lignes suivantes avant la ligne exit 0: if [ -x /usr/bin/numlockx ]; then

Re: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread David Martin
Bon du coup me revoilà... Je vous soumet un nouveau défit ;-) Voici la petite comparaison que je veux mettre en place dans mon nagios, mon soucis c'est que j'ai l'erreur suivante une fois que je veux comparer les deux valeur REF et SNMP2 (mis en forme avec l'astuce de Jean-Marc) Point de

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > > /home/richard/.local/share/Trash/expunged/1449727740/ > └── grub2 problem-2018-02-13 > ... > Goes on for 161 directories The name is 24 bytes long. Plus one slash yields 25. 161 times 25 = 4025 bytes for the problem directories. Plus 53 for "/home/...40/" = 4078. So

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Re: Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread Richard Hector
On 10/05/18 00:28, Richard Owlett wrote: >> /home/richard/.local/share/Trash/expunged/1449727740/ >> └── grub2 problem-2018-02-13 >>     └── grub2 problem-2018-02-13 >>     └── grub2 problem-2018-02-13 >>     └── grub2 problem-2018-02-13 >>     └── grub2 problem-2018-02-13

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Re: Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-05-09 at 08:28, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/08/2018 09:39 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> If you haven't already, I'd recommend trying 'rm -r', *very* >> carefully, from a command prompt. (Unless you have an extremely >> unusual setup, that should avoid any possibility of an intermediary >>

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Re: Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/08/2018 09:39 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2018-05-08 at 13:48, Richard Owlett wrote: [massive SNIP] What method are you using to delete it? Moving directory to trash and then emptying the trash with MATE's graphical tools. If you haven't already, I'd recommend trying 'rm -r', *very*

Re: Emails

2018-05-09 Thread likcoras
On 05/09/2018 09:01 PM, David wrote: > I currently use Evolution for my emails with Debian 8. > > The version in the repository is very old, I'm currently using V3.12. > > Is there a method for me to access a repository with a newer version? > > regards, > > David. > > It is generally not

Emails

2018-05-09 Thread David
I currently use Evolution for my emails with Debian 8. The version in the repository is very old, I'm currently using V3.12. Is there a method for me to access a repository with a newer version? regards, David.

Re: Running of rrequested tests - [was Backup problem using "cp"]

2018-05-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/08/2018 03:22 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: I couldn't interpret what I was seeing so below are excerpts of what was captured by script command. It is hard to understand what "script" wants to tell us. "less" would have been more useful for our purpose of

Re: HS : était [Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?]

2018-05-09 Thread Stéphane Rivière
+1 sur la thread ps: malgré tout, ponctuellement, une défenestration vers du debian, je ne dis jamais non ;) Une défenestration... connaissais pas !!! magnifique :)))  PS dans une vie antérieure, passé 8 ans à benner du doze serveur 2K et 2K3 pour du Gnu/Linux Debian avec Xen avec noyau

Re: [linux.debian.user] question about exim.

2018-05-09 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 09:52 +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote: > kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes: > > [...] > > > > Hmm. Good point. There are two options: > > 1. onet (my isp) is broken > > 2. fetchmail is broken > > Well, quick look into fetchmail manual and we have: > --8<---cut

Re: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Wed, 9 May 2018 08:50:05 +0200 David Martin écrivait : > Salut, > > Je me retrouve devant un problème tout bête... comment dans la récupération > d'un entier... on ajoute une virgule ? (enfin j'aimerai ajouter un point > plutot) > > echo $MAVARIABLE > 3456 > > je

Re: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread andre_debian
On Wednesday 09 May 2018 08:50:05 David Martin wrote: > Je me retrouve devant un problème tout bête... comment dans la récupération > d'un entier... on ajoute une virgule ? (enfin j'aimerai ajouter un point > plutot) > echo $MAVARIABLE > 3456 > je souhaiterai : > 345.6 > je ne trouve pas ;-( > Une

Re: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread yahoo
Bonjour, je peux proposer une solution dans le cas ou tu voudrait avoir un point (ou autre chose) avant le dernier caractère. en utilisant tr, il vas remplacer le dernier caractère de la chaîne par un point, puis tu ajoute le dernier caractère. NEW_VAR=$(echo $MAVARIABLE |  tr -t

Re: Chinese file name problem in xterm

2018-05-09 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 09-05-18, Long Wind wrote: > Thank Ben! > > i use twm, don't you realize it when you see screen shot attached in my 2nd > mail of thread? twm is simple, i won't try xfce or gnome,they are complex, > they may display Chinese correctly, but they likely have other problem,  even > small

Re: Chinese file name problem in xterm

2018-05-09 Thread Long Wind
Thank Ben! i use twm, don't you realize it when you see screen shot attached in my 2nd mail of thread? twm is simple, i won't try xfce or gnome,they are complex, they may display Chinese correctly, but they likely have other problem,  even small problem like ugly font is unacceptable to me,

Re: iptables geoip not working after update to jessie

2018-05-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 08:37:52AM +0200, mj wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I upgraded a server from wheezy to jessie. Went fine, with one > exception: my geoip iptables rules no longer work: > > > root@jessie:~# iptables -A INPUT -m geoip --src-cc RU -j DROP > > iptables: No

Re: longue attente au boot [résolu]

2018-05-09 Thread julien
Bonjour, Tout à fait d'accord avec toi c'est une régression pour l'utilisateur final. Pour un serveur c'est pas gênant d'attendre 2 minutes pour qu'il démarre mais sur un ordinateur portable c'est pas tolérable (même si c'est pour corriger une éventuelle faille de sécurité sur le générateur

Re: [linux.debian.user] question about exim.

2018-05-09 Thread Kamil Jońca
kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes: [...] > > Hmm. Good point. There are two options: > 1. onet (my isp) is broken > 2. fetchmail is broken Well, quick look into fetchmail manual and we have: --8<---cut here---start->8--- -n | --norewrite

RE: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread vandendaelenclement
Et encore mieux : http://www.basicallytech.com/blog/archive/23/command-line-calculations-using-bc/ Sorry pour le double post. Clément VANDENDAELEN Web : www.vandendaelen.com De : David Martin Envoyé : mercredi 9 mai 2018 08:50 À

RE: [HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread vandendaelenclement
Hello ! Je ne suis pas un expert en bash, mais ce lien t’aidera sans doute. : https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/bash-scripting-converting-integer-to-decimal-905791/ Clément VANDENDAELEN Web : www.vandendaelen.com De : David Martin

HS : était [Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?]

2018-05-09 Thread fab
'lut, Comme tu le dis, M$ a perdu la bataille des serveurs/box/smartphone/IoT Ok mais Malheureusement, en postes de travail, windows reste majoritaire, à la communauté du Libre de le rendre minoritaire. A mon avis, la priorité n'est plus d'amener du GNU/Linux sur des postes mais plutôt

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-09 Thread Jérôme
On Wed, 9 May 2018 00:01:33 +0200 andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : > Et Microsoft tente de rattraper son déclin du marché professionnel en se > déclarant maintenant le virtuose de l'opensource, comme si il l'avait > inventé finalement et combien le croit... Le bon commercial doit savoir

iptables geoip not working after update to jessie

2018-05-09 Thread mj
Hi, Yesterday I upgraded a server from wheezy to jessie. Went fine, with one exception: my geoip iptables rules no longer work: root@jessie:~# iptables -A INPUT -m geoip --src-cc RU -j DROP iptables: No chain/target/match by that name. This machine was originaly wheezy, and at that time, I

[HS] - Ajouter une virgule

2018-05-09 Thread David Martin
Salut, Je me retrouve devant un problème tout bête... comment dans la récupération d'un entier... on ajoute une virgule ? (enfin j'aimerai ajouter un point plutot) echo $MAVARIABLE 3456 je souhaiterai : 345.6 je ne trouve pas ;-( Une âme charitable ;-) -- david martin

Re: longue attente au boot [résolu]

2018-05-09 Thread Eric Degenetais
Bonjour, c'est déjà fait côté debian, et les développeurs discutent actuellement les différentes solutions que j'ai évoquées. Les échanges du bugtracker sont d'ailleurs la source de mes informations à ce sujet. Cordialement Éric Dégenètais Le 8 mai 2018 23:45, "Frédéric Baldit"