Re: bind9 startup problems: /var/cache /bind

[Ross Boylan]

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 2:47 PM Richard Hector  wrote:
>
> RequiresMountsFor=/absolute/path/of/mount
>
> .. to go in the unit file - or IIRC running:
>
> sudo systemctl edit bind9.service
>
> ... and putting in:
>
> ---8<
> [Unit]
> RequiresMountsFor=/var
> ---8<
>
> ... followed by:
> sudo systemctl daemon-reload
>
Thank you for the very clear instructions.  I wish README.Debian for
systemd said how you're supposed to handle /etc, since it's somewhat
non-standard.

I tried it.  Unfortunately, it didn't work.  After rebooting I still get
--
May 22 18:38:49 barley named[829]: loading configuration from
'/etc/bind/named.conf'
May 22 18:38:49 barley named[829]: /etc/bind/named.conf.options:2:
change directory to '/var/cache/bind' failed: file not found
May 22 18:38:49 barley named[829]: /etc/bind/named.conf.options:2:
parsing failed: file not found
May 22 18:38:49 barley named[829]: loading configuration: file not found
May 22 18:38:49 barley named[829]: exiting (due to fatal error)

Again, when I restart the service it succeeds.
As a check to see if my options took, systemctl show bind9 does have
the lines (leaving in some resolvconf stuff because of my suspicions):
-
Requires=sysinit.target -.mount var.mount system.slice
Wants=nss-lookup.target bind9-resolvconf.service
ConsistsOf=bind9-resolvconf.service
Before=bind9-resolvconf.service multi-user.target shutdown.target
nss-lookup.target
After=basic.target system.slice -.mount systemd-journald.socket
sysinit.target var.mount network.target
RequiresMountsFor=/var
---

Finally, ls -ld /var/cache/bind
drwxrwxr-x 2 root bind 4096 May 22 16:50 /var/cache/bind
The manual restart of bin began just before 18:50 local time.

Ross

LXC and Docker together?

[Richard Hector]

Hi all,

Has anybody run LXC and Docker simultaneously on the same host? Do they
play nicely together?

I need to migrate some containers (or at least the contents, or
services) from LXC to Docker, without causing too much disruption.

Stretch doesn't seem to have Docker, so I'd be installing that from the
Docker repo. LXC is what comes with stretch.

Cheers,
Richard



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Re: Quick test report pm buster rc1

[Peter Ehlert]

did you try the installer?

I really don't like the Calamares installer, kinda weird, lacking options.
thankfully the Debian Installer is still available.

On 5/22/19 11:36 AM, Paul Sutton wrote:

Hi All

Just downloaded the rc1 image below and created a flash disk to test.

debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-lxde+nonfree.iso

Booted up fine,  selected live, and it booted to a desktop no problem.

Great work.

Regards

Paul Sutton

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 02:32:58 pm Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2019-05-22 12:56 (UTC-0400):
> > I guess I'll take my chance on the $40 wallies canon.
>
> Unless it will only by used with that other OS, that would be the
> highest possible risk.
Well, I've known the guy at wallies for a decade and change, and as I was 
audibly compareing the $40 canon ad the $70 hp, he said he couldn't say 
anything good about any canon he's ever owned, so I bought the Hp Envy 
5255 along with a spare package of cartridges.  When I got it unpacked 
on the table with the hp computer, the wifi hooked up and it auto 
configed the printer & scanner, then hunted around until I found a print 
control gui, and sent the screenshot I made last night to it. At this 
point all I can say is it Just Worked. On glossier paper I can send them 
to the Friendly Candy Company, suitably impressing the frogs in the DC 
swamp.

Going thru the self-checkout it offered me a lng warranty for a $5 
bill. Needless to say I jumped at that chance for failure insurance.

Thanks Felix.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: kvm win8 guest audio is terrible.

[Håkon Alstadheim]

Den 22.05.2019 22:33, skrev Ram Ramesh:
I created a fresh install of debian stretch amd64. In that, I created 
a qemu/kvm guess install of win8. It only accepted hda as a valid 
sound card. All others show us without drivers. So, I am limited to 
only HDA as -soundhw. Further HDA sounds so broken if I try to test 
with any sound file or youtube video. It is grainy/distorted and 
outright horrible.


Google searches mentions something about MSI and those approaches are 
simply not accepted by win8. So, I could not use them. I am wondering 
if there is something fundamentally wrong with windows guests or is 
there a setting that I am missing?


More info needed:

- HW (cpu, graphics, soundcard)

- BIOS (cpu power-states)

- Host setup (power states,audio setup)

- VM config.

Most important: where have you looked trying to solve this?

---

PS: I run Xen, not qemu, but issues are same. I have max c-state 2 on 
xeon E5-2620, HDMI graphics passed thru as PCI, with good HDMI-audio in 
windows 8. Needed to drop spice because load on host got too high, 
ruined audio.

Re: bind9 startup problems: /var/cache /bind

[Richard Hector]

On 23/05/19 9:08 AM, Ross Boylan wrote:
> /var is a separate file system, and like / it's encrypted, so it might
> take a bit of time to activate it.  Whether it's available when
> needed, I don't know, though the error suggests it might not be.
> Could systemd be launching services while some of the mounts (and the
> required decryption) are still to be done?
> 
> Is there some systemd way to ensure the file system is mounted before
> launching bind?  But I'd think if /var weren't available, bind
> wouldn't be the only one with a problem.

Well, I don't see anything in bind9.service to prevent it starting. I'm
not sure what the best dependency is ...

A bit of web searching finds:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/246935/set-systemd-service-to-execute-after-fstab-mount

... which suggests:
RequiresMountsFor=/absolute/path/of/mount

.. to go in the unit file - or IIRC running:

sudo systemctl edit bind9.service

... and putting in:

---8<
[Unit]
RequiresMountsFor=/var
---8<

... followed by:
sudo systemctl daemon-reload

Not tested.

Cheers,
Richard



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Re: Buster emacs crashes with doc-view-mode

[Boyan Penkov]

On 5/21/19 4:08 AM, Curt wrote:


Your backtrace looks quite similar to this:

http://codepad.org/juUbz33Q
https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/9xrjto/emacs_latex_docview_bug_crashes_emacs/

The OP believes his issue is related to the 'doc-view-resolution'
parameter (when reverting from 300 to a setting of 100 the crash doesn't
seem to occur for him).


Thanks for the pointer -- I have replaced my resolution of 600 (!) to 
150, with a minimal hit (my monitor is 141 dpi) -- I'm not claiming the 
crash stopped, just probably will happen less often.


That said, some searching pulled up Fedora seeing this for a while, and 
this being a standing issue in debian -- anybody familiar with the 
history here?

Re: bind9 startup problems: /var/cache /bind

[Ross Boylan]

/var is a separate file system, and like / it's encrypted, so it might
take a bit of time to activate it.  Whether it's available when
needed, I don't know, though the error suggests it might not be.
Could systemd be launching services while some of the mounts (and the
required decryption) are still to be done?

Is there some systemd way to ensure the file system is mounted before
launching bind?  But I'd think if /var weren't available, bind
wouldn't be the only one with a problem.

Ross

kvm win8 guest audio is terrible.

[Ram Ramesh]

I created a fresh install of debian stretch amd64. In that, I created a 
qemu/kvm guess install of win8. It only accepted hda as a valid sound 
card. All others show us without drivers. So, I am limited to only HDA 
as -soundhw. Further HDA sounds so broken if I try to test with any 
sound file or youtube video. It is grainy/distorted and outright horrible.


Google searches mentions something about MSI and those approaches are 
simply not accepted by win8. So, I could not use them. I am wondering if 
there is something fundamentally wrong with windows guests or is there a 
setting that I am missing?


Ramesh

Re: bind9 startup problems: /var/cache /bind

[Richard Hector]

On 23/05/19 8:00 AM, Ross Boylan wrote:
> At system start, bind9 fails to start on a recently created buster
> system.  Some of the local bind is based on configuration from an
> earlier bind.  The logs show
> /etc/bind/named.conf.options:2: change directory to '/var/cache/bind'
> failed: file not found
> 
> But if I then start it manually via systemctl, it starts.  But then I
> need to fix up other services which were counting on working name
> resolution when they started.

Is /var/cache (or /var) a separate filesystem, that might not be mounted
in time at boot?

Richard



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Re: No Books in print on Systemd?

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:18 PM mick crane  wrote:

>
> "I just want to know what is happening, it is my PC"
> So it was a relief to find Linux books and an OS that does what it says
> it should do.
> Now I dunno what goes on.
> But really I guess now I don't care so much as I feel the guys are
> giving me this software are trustworthy
>

I guess I will be the one to speak the open-source boilerplate :-)
Open source is a cooperative activity. Thousands of linux machines run
systemD all the
time and need no extra work on that account. Mine are different. If I need
good, basic
systemD doc, I can help write it.

Now there is an unfinished, long-running discussion within the linux
community about the
design choices made with systemD and the means by which it became part of
the linux mainstream.
And as I mentioned some distros and admins have rejected it. I try to keep
the two topics separate.



> mick
>
> --
> Key ID4BFEBB31
>
>

Re: No Books in print on Systemd?

[mick crane]

On 2019-05-19 13:51, Boyan Penkov wrote:

--
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On May 18, 2019, at 17:19, Kenneth Parker  wrote:

I know there are controversies on Systemd (including in Debian  --  
for example, Devuan), but I want to learn enough about it to 
(Horrors!)  become an expert.


And yes, I have found several online resources, including on the 
Debian Wiki.  (I'm also reading 
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ 
 ).


My problem?  My best times for reading are times where a "Paper Book" 
is best.  Unfortunately, I haven't found any.


+1 for the implicit sentiment that it may be time for a book-length
elucidation of the system, as I was looking around the the same thing
??? even if it???s http://0pointer.net/blog/ posts cleaned up and laid out
in a systematic (not temporally linear..) way, I??? be interested???.



If I'm missing something, please tell me.  Otherwise, do any of you 
know if someone's working on a Book?






I did buy the "windows 98 administrator's guide" to try to get to grips 
with it but left me more annoyed.

"I just want to know what is happening, it is my PC"
So it was a relief to find Linux books and an OS that does what it says 
it should do.

Now I dunno what goes on.
But really I guess now I don't care so much as I feel the guys are 
giving me this software are trustworthy

It would be nice to have it laid out in print exactly what goes on.

mick

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bind9 startup problems: /var/cache /bind

[Ross Boylan]

At system start, bind9 fails to start on a recently created buster
system.  Some of the local bind is based on configuration from an
earlier bind.  The logs show
/etc/bind/named.conf.options:2: change directory to '/var/cache/bind'
failed: file not found

But if I then start it manually via systemctl, it starts.  But then I
need to fix up other services which were counting on working name
resolution when they started.

/var/cache/bind exists (at least right now, with bind running).
Somewhat oddly it has a recent timestamp that coincided with a
chron.hourly run, but not much other activity I see in the log.

I started experiencing this problem when I activated the
bind9-resolvconf service, though it's very simple and I don't see how
it could matter.

Internet search turned up
https://serverfault.com/questions/404219/bind-9-8-not-loading-var-cache-bind-failed-file-not-found
with the response "make the directory".  Except I have the directory.
Also, README.Debian says "The working directory for named is now
/var/cache/bind." So it seems like something the package should have
created on installation, or at least dynamically as it starts.

Double-checked that apparmor seems to have entries that match.  Unless
the trailing slash  is a problem?
  /var/cache/bind/** lrw,
  /var/cache/bind/ rw,
That is, the program is trying to open /var/cache/bind, but the
pattern is /var/cache/bind/.
Of course, if it were an apparmor problem then my later restarts would
have failed too, and they didn't.

Some kind of race condition?

The bind9 daemon is running as the bind user.

Ideas?

Thanks.
Ross Boylan

Quick test report pm buster rc1

[Paul Sutton]

Hi All

Just downloaded the rc1 image below and created a flash disk to test. 

debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-lxde+nonfree.iso

Booted up fine,  selected live, and it booted to a desktop no problem.

Great work. 

Regards

Paul Sutton

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Re: Gene you poor soul

[Felix Miata]

Gene Heskett composed on 2019-05-22 12:56 (UTC-0400):

> I guess I'll take my chance on the $40 wallies canon.

Unless it will only by used with that other OS, that would be the highest 
possible
risk.
-- 
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 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[David Wright]

On Wed 22 May 2019 at 13:32:09 (-0400), nico.schloe...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Try avoid the GUI mode of reportbug.
> 
> How do I do this? `reportbug -h` doesn't say anything about it.

Supply 'text' to -u.

$ reportbug -h | grep -i interface
  -u INTERFACE, --interface=INTERFACE, --ui=INTERFACE
choose which user interface to use
$ 

Cheers,
David.

Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting nico.schloe...@gmail.com (2019-05-22 19:32:09)
> Thank you too for the quick reply.
> 
> > Try avoid the GUI mode of reportbug.
> 
> How do I do this? `reportbug -h` doesn't say anything about it.

On my Debian system `man reportbug` mentions "gtk" in relation to a "-u" 
option - if yours doesn't then I guess that's one of the areas Ubuntu 
differ, or perhaps a difference in versions used: I use reportbug 7.5.2.

Maybe do `reportbug --configure`


> > If literally "nothing happened"
> 
> Your scepticism prompted me to check again and indeed, I had 
> overlooked a failure message from debian. Apparently, there was 
> something wrong with my "pseudo headers". I'll read the instructions 
> [1] again and try once more.

Nice :-)


 - Jonas

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Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Nico Schlömer]

Okay, I couldn't figure out how to change the the order of paths in
`sys.path`, but I went ahead and removed
```
pip3 uninstall pysimplesoap
```
from `~/.local/`. I have no idea what was the difference between my
locally installed version and the system version but reportbug works
now.

Thanks everyone, cheers,
Nico

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:33 PM Michael Lange  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 22 May 2019 19:04:52 +0200
> Nico Schlömer  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Michael for the quick response!
> > ```
> > python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.path)"
> > ```
> > gives
> > ```
> > ['', '/usr/lib/python37.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.7',
> > '/usr/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload',
> > '/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages',
> > '/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages',
> > '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
> > ```
> > Looks normal?
>
> Actually not, '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages' should appear
> before '/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages' (resp. your
> custom Python should be at the very end of sys.path). Obviously this is
> the reason why reportbug tries to import some module from your custom
> Python3 install which refuses to work. You should definitely fix this,
> otherwise the next bad surprise will be waiting just around the corner ;)
>
> I am not sure how to do this properly, though. Maybe the Python-path is
> somehow created from $PATH, is your ~/.local somewhere in $PATH and could
> you possibly move it to the end?
>
> According to
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18247333/python-pythonpath-in-linux
> you could also try to set the PYTHONPATH environment variable with
> something like
> export
> PYTHONPATH="":/usr/lib/python37.zip:/usr/lib/python3.7:/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages:
> (etc.)
>
> however I am not sure if this is actually wise (Python2 should also be
> taken into account of course).
>
> As a quick-and-dirty workaround you could try to add something like
>
> import sys
> sys.path = ['', '/usr/lib/python37.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.7',
> '/usr/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages',
> '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
>
> to the very beginning of /usr/bin/reportbug .
> This wouldn't help with other misbehaving Python3 programs of course.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
> .-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.
>
> Our way is peace.
> -- Septimus, the Son Worshiper, "Bread and Circuses",
>stardate 4040.7.
>

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

[Erik Josefsson]

On 5/22/19 12:40 PM, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 22 May 2019 at 04:06:46 (+), Erik Josefsson wrote:

On 5/5/19 7:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

I don't know if there is a screw loose in your laptop, or
warewolves pissed on a USB plugs.

Well, what comes out of one of the keyboards now is p.

In response to your pressing keys, or spontaneously?
Rapidly or intermittently?


I found the laptop "p"-ing when coming back after wiping, among other 
things, baby drool in another room. My daughter is 19 months.


More specifically, I came back to a growing line of p's in an open text 
document in Mousepad (the xfce editor). I did not press any key, nor was 
the p's coming rapidly or intermittently. I just closed Mousepad.



Is this permanent (whenever you switch on) or just occasional?


It continued in Thunderbird, but less aggressive, kind of like at the 
end of the walk with the dog (if the allegory still holds for another joke).



Or did it start mid-session?


I think more like mid session, but not sure. I have now put that laptop 
on the shelf.


If something similar happens with this laptop, we can rule out baby 
drool. I'm keeping it safe from now on.


But it also means I will have to stop testing things and instead find 
for another mode of working with Debian.



After dpkg-reconfigure console-setup or keyboard-configuration?


Probably unrelated.

But you never know (full moons etc).

Best regards.

//Erik

Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Michael Lange]

On Wed, 22 May 2019 19:04:52 +0200
Nico Schlömer  wrote:

> Thanks Michael for the quick response!
> ```
> python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.path)"
> ```
> gives
> ```
> ['', '/usr/lib/python37.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.7',
> '/usr/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload',
> '/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages',
> '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
> ```
> Looks normal?

Actually not, '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages' should appear
before '/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages' (resp. your
custom Python should be at the very end of sys.path). Obviously this is
the reason why reportbug tries to import some module from your custom
Python3 install which refuses to work. You should definitely fix this,
otherwise the next bad surprise will be waiting just around the corner ;)

I am not sure how to do this properly, though. Maybe the Python-path is
somehow created from $PATH, is your ~/.local somewhere in $PATH and could
you possibly move it to the end?

According to
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18247333/python-pythonpath-in-linux
you could also try to set the PYTHONPATH environment variable with
something like
export
PYTHONPATH="":/usr/lib/python37.zip:/usr/lib/python3.7:/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages:
(etc.)

however I am not sure if this is actually wise (Python2 should also be
taken into account of course).

As a quick-and-dirty workaround you could try to add something like

import sys 
sys.path = ['', '/usr/lib/python37.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.7',
'/usr/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages',
'/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']

to the very beginning of /usr/bin/reportbug .
This wouldn't help with other misbehaving Python3 programs of course.

Regards

Michael

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Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[nico . schloemer]

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Hi Jonas,

Thank you too for the quick reply.

> Try avoid the GUI mode of reportbug.

How do I do this? `reportbug -h` doesn't say anything about it.

> If you happen to use reportbug-ng

Nope.

> If literally "nothing happened"

Your scepticism prompted me to check again and indeed, I had overlooked a
failure message from debian. Apparently, there was something wrong with my
"pseudo headers". I'll read the instructions [1] again and try once more.

Cheers,
Nico

[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
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Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Hi Nico,

Quoting Nico Schlömer (2019-05-22 18:25:16)
> Phew, I find it quite difficult to report bugs in Debian.

[ meta complaints snipped ]

> When launching
> ```
> reportbug -B debian
> ```
> (running Ubuntu 19.04) and after two, three clicks I'm getting

Thanks for mentioning that you use Ubuntu.  I cannot help with eventual 
Ubuntu specifics and you might have better luck asking for advice in 
Ubuntu forums, but let's try...


> 1763, in func
> args, kwargs = op.sync_pre_operation(*args, **kwargs)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line

Try avoid the GUI mode of reportbug.

If you happen to use reportbug-ng (if that even exists any longer) then 
please try use the good old reportbug.



> How can I submit a new bug instead? (Mailing to
> sub...@bugs.debian.org didn't work for me, nothing happened.) Help
> appreciated.

If literally "nothing happened" then you need to consult your mail setup 
or contact your mail service administrator (a.k.a. postmaster): When you 
send an email to the Debian bugtracker - either from an email program or 
using reportbug (which also at the end sends an email unless told 
otherwise) then within 5-10 minutes you should receive a confirmation 
with a bug number.


 - Jonas

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Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Nico Schlömer]

Thanks Michael for the quick response!
```
python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.path)"
```
gives
```
['', '/usr/lib/python37.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.7',
'/usr/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload',
'/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages',
'/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
```
Looks normal?

Cheers,
Nico

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:57 PM Michael Lange  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 22 May 2019 18:25:16 +0200
> Nico Schlömer  wrote:
>
> (...)
>
> > Perhaps I've got an incompatible version of a dependency installed in
> > `~/.local/`?
>
> It looks like this.
>
> Here reportbug uses modules from the default system Python3:
>
> > E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
> > 1049, in sync_pre_operation
> > http_proxy=http_proxy, archived=archived, source=source)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/debbugs.py", line
> > 1069, in get_reports
> > bugs = debianbts.get_bugs(pkg_filter, package)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/debianbts/debianbts.py", line
> > 401, in get_bugs
> > reply = soap_client.call('get_bugs', method_el)
> >   File
>
> and now here all of a sudden it uses modules you installed into ~/.local :
>
> > "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pysimplesoap/client.py",
> > line 256, in call self.xml_response = self.send(method,
> > self.xml_request) File
> > "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pysimplesoap/client.py",
> > line 318, in send location, http_method, body=xml, headers=headers)
> >   File
> > "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py",
> > line 1763, in request
> > disable_ssl_certificate_validation=self.disable_ssl_certificate_validation,
> > File
> > "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py",
> > line 1247, in __init__ context=context, TypeError: fixer() missing 1
> > required positional argument: 'check_hostname'
>
> This doesn't seem sound, I guess this custom Python version is probably
> the culprit. Maybe some environment variable messes with your Python-path?
> What do you get if you do the following:
>
> $ python3
> Python 3.5.3 (default, Sep 27 2018, 17:25:39)
> [GCC 6.3.0 20170516] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import sys
> >>> sys.path
> ['', '/usr/lib/python35.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.5',
> '/usr/lib/python3.5/plat-x86_64-linux-gnu',
> '/usr/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pdoc3-0.6.1-py3.5.egg',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/Markdown-3.1-py3.5.egg',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/setuptools-41.0.1-py3.5.egg',
> '/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/youtube_dl-2019.5.11-py3.5.egg',
> '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
> .-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.
>
> A man either lives life as it happens to him, meets it head-on and
> licks it, or he turns his back on it and starts to wither away.
> -- Dr. Boyce, "The Menagerie" ("The Cage"), stardate
> unknown
>

Re: how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

On Wed, 22 May 2019 18:25:16 +0200
Nico Schlömer  wrote:

(...)

> Perhaps I've got an incompatible version of a dependency installed in
> `~/.local/`?

It looks like this.

Here reportbug uses modules from the default system Python3:

> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
> 1049, in sync_pre_operation
> http_proxy=http_proxy, archived=archived, source=source)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/debbugs.py", line
> 1069, in get_reports
> bugs = debianbts.get_bugs(pkg_filter, package)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/debianbts/debianbts.py", line
> 401, in get_bugs
> reply = soap_client.call('get_bugs', method_el)
>   File

and now here all of a sudden it uses modules you installed into ~/.local :

> "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pysimplesoap/client.py",
> line 256, in call self.xml_response = self.send(method,
> self.xml_request) File
> "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pysimplesoap/client.py",
> line 318, in send location, http_method, body=xml, headers=headers)
>   File
> "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py",
> line 1763, in request
> disable_ssl_certificate_validation=self.disable_ssl_certificate_validation,
> File
> "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py",
> line 1247, in __init__ context=context, TypeError: fixer() missing 1
> required positional argument: 'check_hostname'

This doesn't seem sound, I guess this custom Python version is probably
the culprit. Maybe some environment variable messes with your Python-path?
What do you get if you do the following:

$ python3
Python 3.5.3 (default, Sep 27 2018, 17:25:39) 
[GCC 6.3.0 20170516] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> sys.path
['', '/usr/lib/python35.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.5',
'/usr/lib/python3.5/plat-x86_64-linux-gnu',
'/usr/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pdoc3-0.6.1-py3.5.egg',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/Markdown-3.1-py3.5.egg',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/setuptools-41.0.1-py3.5.egg',
'/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/youtube_dl-2019.5.11-py3.5.egg',
'/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']

Regards

Michael

.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

A man either lives life as it happens to him, meets it head-on and
licks it, or he turns his back on it and starts to wither away.
-- Dr. Boyce, "The Menagerie" ("The Cage"), stardate
unknown

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 08:05:09 am arne wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2019 05:34:17 -0400
>
> Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > For this, I need something that fits in a
> > briefcase, and Just Works, maybe once a month.  Is such a beast even
> > made today?  Doubtfull.
>
> I had a b portable Canon Bubble-jet which lasted 10 years or so. On
> windows. Canon BJ-10sx.
>
> Now they make color portables which look almost the same:
>
> https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/pri
>nters/support-inkjet-printer/bjc-series/bjc-85

Apparently disco'd or close,  only price I found a new one for was $300 
at amazon. I guess I'll take my chance on the $40 wallies canon.  And 
include the price in the job billing.  HP also has a similar one, the 
HP-1112. And I like the idea of integrated cartridge/head. Plus with the 
head in the cartridge, one can clean them with a wet q-tip.  Those using 
tanks and plumbing usually park the carriage where its totally 
inaccessible for head cleaning attempts.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Felix Miata]

Gene Heskett composed on 2019-05-22 07:11 (UTC-0400):

> On Wednesday 22 May 2019 06:45:33 am Felix Miata wrote:

>> Even if you can't get to the site's printer directly,
>> something at home there ought to be able to take your print file and
>> get it out via a z3azx printer.

> Thanks Felix. But the hour is not yet "civilized." :)

I really should stop typing in my sleep. I have no idea what z3azx, or the whole
clause, was meant to be. :-(
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: Gene you poor soul

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 08:05:09 AM arne wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2019 05:34:17 -0400
> 
> Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > For this, I need something that fits in a
> > briefcase, and Just Works, maybe once a month.  Is such a beast even
> > made today?  Doubtfull.
> 
> I had a b portable Canon Bubble-jet which lasted 10 years or so. On
> windows. Canon BJ-10sx.

Ahh, yes, I used one of those for a while -- the cartridges were extremely 
easy to refill -- iirc, I did something to take the top off and make it 
removable / replaceable, and then just lifted the top, put some ink on to soak 
into the sponge, and then replaced the top (might have taped it back in 
place).

Don't think I ever had a head clogged, and it was a travel printer that easily 
went a month between uses.
 
> Now they make color portables which look almost the same:
> 
> https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/printers
> /support-inkjet-printer/bjc-series/bjc-85

Re: Gene you poor soul

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 05:34:17 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> I do have an MFC at .21 on the local net.  One of Brothers tabloid sized
> Color inkjets. Windows 10-home doesn't seem to be aware of it. What I
> need for this job is a bare-a$$ed color printer, but all I could find at
> Staples last week were physicly huge MFC's.  Wally has some really cheap
> $40 ones, but I suspect that I'd have to buy one per job because the
> heads would dry up and clog between uses. Back when I was a fan of
> epsons, the cost of the inks was $250/year just to print the nightly
> amanda reports to exercise the printer. That worked out to about $1 a
> sheet and it still got clogged.  I didn't do that with the last one and
> wound up with the head hopelessly clogged, would not clean, 2 weeks
> after I parked it on the table from new in the box. $500 for an AI1. For
> this, I need something that fits in a briefcase, and Just Works, maybe
> once a month.  Is such a beast even made today?  Doubtfull.

Just some comments on ink jet printers (and cartridges clogging).

I've had what I have to consider very good luck with a Canon BJC-3000 printer 
which uses the BC-33e print cartridge.  That is a cartridge with ink tanks 
separate from the print head.

I rarely have clogs (at least in the last 5 years or so), but when I do, I've 
accumulated a (very few) empty ink cartridges which I fill with (I refill my 
own 
cartridges, by the way) rubbing alcohol, and, when the head is clogged, I slip 
one of those in and print a test sheet with one of those (it helps if there is 
some residual ink in the old cartridge (or, if necessary, add a little so that 
you can see, on the test print) whether all the nozzles are working (seeing 
transparent rubbing alcohol is difficult when "printed").

Another thing I've thought of doing, but haven't felt a desperate need so far 
is adding a little bit of rubbing alcohol) to the inks when I refill the 
cartridge.  (Maybe 5%?)

I know there are periods of at least a month when I don't print anything and 
my printhead is not clogged.

(At least once I did get the error message something like "waste ink tank 
full" and had to take the printer pretty much all the way apart to clean the 
fabric pad that they call the "waste ink tank".  If it happens a 2nd time, 
I'll probably try to reset the error without cleaning that pad (put I'll make 
sure the printer is sitting an a disposable surface (pad of old newspapers?) 
just in case I get a leak.

Refilling your own ink cartridges makes the ink very cheap, I think on the 
order of $0.01 or $0.02 per page (I did some calculations once, but I don't 
remember the results, but it is so little that I don't care about it).

At that time, Canon cartridges (especially this one) were the easiest to refill 
-- just open up a hole, use a syringe to inject some ink, then reseal that 
hole either with a screw of some tape (actually, I put tape over the hole and 
then "threaded" a self-tapping screw into it -- the tape acts as sort of a 
gasket -- I don't know if the cartridge needs to be hermetically sealed ;-)

Some cartridges are much more difficult to refill, either because of the design 
or because of a chip that tries to prevent you from reusing a refilled 
cartridge.  On an HP that I used for a while, I found a way to get around 
that, but those cartridges did tend to clog and I don't use that printer 
anymore.

Oh, I did burn out a cartridge on the BJC-3000 once -- the Linux drivers 
(CUPS, iirc) did not (and, afaik, still don't) watch the low ink sensor -- the 
cartridge ran out of at least one ink during a fairly long printing job, and 
that burnt out the head.  Since then, I periodically lift the lid, put out the 
ink tanks (you have to to see the ink level), and make sure there is plenty of 
ink in the liquid reservoir (there is a reservoir that holds liquid that feeds 
into the sponge in another part of the reservoir.)

Last time I checked into it, Canon had started to include a chip to prevent 
cartridge refill -- I don't know if they still do or not.  I know that at a 
much higher price point ($200 to $400) they make printers with separate 
(liquid) ink reservoirs that are made to be easily replaced (and, I'm sure 
they could be refilled).

I am sure there are other cartridges (from other manufacturers) that are easy 
enough to refill.

(I did get a free Canon Pixma MX492 (all in one) from a neighbor that seems to 
work well (well, all I've done with it so far is use it as a copier -- I'm 
sure it will work well as a printer, I'm not sure how well it will do as a 
scanner although, iirc, Canon does make a scanner driver for Linux for it).  I 
am a little leery of the ease of refilling because the reservoir is a sponge 
with no separte liquid compartment).

Anyway, I guess my point is that you can do quite well with an inkjet printer 
if you pick one for which the ink cartridges can be refilled.

PS: If there is a chance that your printout will get wet for some 

how to report bugs? (reportbug broken)

[Nico Schlömer]

Hi everyone,

Phew, I find it quite difficult to report bugs in Debian. The
recommended way [1] is to use the command line tool reportbug instead
of a logging into a bug tracker and clicking "New Issue" like
everywhere else. (I'm sure there has been plenty discussion about that
before.)

Anyhow. One disadvantage of using a cmd tool is that tools can break,
and it's been broken for a while on my machine now. (Unfortunately,
this has prevented me from submitting multiple bugs already.)

When launching
```
reportbug -B debian
```
(running Ubuntu 19.04) and after two, three clicks I'm getting
```
E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
1049, in sync_pre_operation
http_proxy=http_proxy, archived=archived, source=source)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/debbugs.py", line
1069, in get_reports
bugs = debianbts.get_bugs(pkg_filter, package)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/debianbts/debianbts.py", line
401, in get_bugs
reply = soap_client.call('get_bugs', method_el)
  File 
"/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pysimplesoap/client.py",
line 256, in call
self.xml_response = self.send(method, self.xml_request)
  File 
"/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pysimplesoap/client.py",
line 318, in send
location, http_method, body=xml, headers=headers)
  File "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py",
line 1763, in request
disable_ssl_certificate_validation=self.disable_ssl_certificate_validation,
  File "/home/nschloe/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/httplib2/__init__.py",
line 1247, in __init__
context=context,
TypeError: fixer() missing 1 required positional argument: 'check_hostname'

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2293, in 
main()
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1115, in main
return iface.user_interface()
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1736, in user_interface
latest_first=self.options.latest_first)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
1763, in func
args, kwargs = op.sync_pre_operation(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
1051, in sync_pre_operation
error_dialog("Unable to connect to %s BTS." % sysinfo['name'])
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
137, in error_dialog
_assert_context(ui_context)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk_ui.py", line
92, in _assert_context
(_describe_context(really), _describe_context(expected)))
AssertionError: Function should be called in  but was called in 
```
Perhaps I've got an incompatible version of a dependency installed in
`~/.local/`? Not sure, but looks like a classical Python dependency
thing.

How can I submit a new bug instead? (Mailing to
sub...@bugs.debian.org didn't work for me, nothing happened.) Help
appreciated.

Cheers,
Nico

[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

debian / apache

[miguel angel gonzalez]

Buenas tardes,
No es directamente de Debian, a ver si me podéis dar pistas de como hacerlo.
Estoy adminsitrando máquinas con Ansible en Debian, necesito mediante
comandos
sacar alguna máquina del balanceo de Apache (proxy_balancer).
¿Sabéis si esto se puede hacer?
Es decir, en el fichero proxy_balancer.conf del módulo proxy balancer,
indicas que máquinas
administra Apache, sería sacar momentaneamente una de ellas y luego
volverla a poner.
Muchas gracias.

-- 
/m.a.

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

[David Wright]

On Wed 22 May 2019 at 15:18:36 (+0200), Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting David Wright (2019-05-22 14:40:28)
> > On Wed 22 May 2019 at 04:06:46 (+), Erik Josefsson wrote:
> > > On 5/5/19 7:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > > I don't know if there is a screw loose in your laptop, or
> > > > warewolves pissed on a USB plugs.
> > > 
> > > Well, what comes out of one of the keyboards now is p.
> > 
> > In response to your pressing keys, or spontaneously?
> > Rapidly or intermittently?
> > Is this permanent (whenever you switch on) or just occasional?
> > Or did it start mid-session?
> > After dpkg-reconfigure console-setup or keyboard-configuration?
> 
> or the really scary one: Does it happen only when the moon is full?

:)

But I have a problem with this laptop where these questions would be
answered thus:

Spontaneously. Intermittently. Occasional. Not mid-session.
Not after dpkg-reconfigure. (And the characters typed are NULs.)
"What comes out of one of the keyboards now is ^@^@^@^@^@^@"
wouldn't help much in diagnosing my problem.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Lectores de huellas biométricos

[Itzcoalt Alvarez]

Hace algunos años realice un sistema idéntico para windows, pero en la
investigación, recuerdo que algunos tenían una API para java, lo cual lo
hace viable para correr en Linux

Saludos


El mar., 21 may. 2019 a las 10:50, Debian ()
escribió:

> Buenos días lista:
>
> Estoy con un proyecto para control de acceso de empleados mediante
> lectores biométricos de huellas digitales.
> Los que estoy viendo al momento, o son autónomos (todo empaquetado en un
> equipo), o su enlace me obliga a utilizar sistemas ("software")
> privativos, no basados de *nix, si no en Windows.
>
> Pregunta:
> ¿Conocen de algún equipo lector de huellas digitales de buena desempeño
> que pueda ser manejado desde un servidor Linux?
> Manejado me refiero a que el mismo pueda recibir pedidos de un programa
> y emita la respuesta; hay algunos que pueden ser manejados desde una
> página web, y se pueden bajar los datos a mano. Lo que yo necesito es
> que de alguna manera, mediante el cableado UTP pueda leer lo que el
> equipo ha ido almacenando.
> Que dentro de lo que el equipo trae en su documentación, esté la forma
> de acceder a, por ejemplo, requerimientos SQL de su motor de base de
> datos interno.
>
> Gracias
>
> JAP
>
>

--

sporadic successfull mount of nfs with Stretch

[Stefan K]

Hello,

we've some problems with Debian stretch which try to mount nfs4 shares at 
boot-time, sometimes it works and sometimes not. If its not mounting during 
start I can mount it after I login without problems.

A successfull (re)boot look like [1] and a (re)boot which doesn't mount the 
shares look like [2].

For me it looks like that it comes to a race condition and it try to mount it 
without a working networkstack. the /etc/fstab looks like:
srv-storage:/scratch  /scratchnfs defaults0 2
srv-storage:/home /data/home  nfs defaults0 2

I also try to use _netdev as mountoptions, but it didn't work.
Has anyone an idea how to solve this?

best regards
Stefan

[1] https://debianforum.de/forum/pastebin/?mode=view=40729
[2] https://debianforum.de/forum/pastebin/?mode=view=40728

Re: Firefox ESR 60.6.2+ still unavailable for me

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On 5/22/19, Guilherme Vieira  wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> But as you can see there's still no update for firefox-esr, which is still
> at version 60.6.1:
>
> $ apt show firefox-esr
> Package: firefox-esr
> Version: 60.6.1esr-1~deb9u1



Hi back! Greg's idea sounds good there (about update being commented out).

Am writing to say: I use that "show", well, my brain defaults to
"apt-cache show" for looking at descriptions mostly. Once in a while,
I'll use "show" to see if it includes a home website or potential
contact info, maybe..

I also use "apt-cache policy". I use that one for taking a quick peek
at whether or not something's installed. It has the added benefit of
referencing a package's upgrade [standing]:

$ apt-cache policy firefox-esr
firefox-esr:
  Installed: 60.6.2esr-1
  Candidate: 60.6.3esr-1

There are a couple other lines that go with that I need to personally
research to understand their value. They obviously wouldn't be there
if they weren't of potential importance at some point.

"apt-cache policy" was something I'd seen in the past but it didn't
stick in mind until I saw it repeated a few times here on Debian-User.
It's in use probably at least every other day ever since now. In *my*
case, it just makes it so easy to quickly visually compare those
numbers because of how they're stacked there.

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *

Re: Firefox ESR 60.6.2+ still unavailable for me

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 10:12:08AM -0300, Guilherme Vieira wrote:
>- firefox-esr version: 60.6.1esr-1~deb9u1

> This is my *sources.list*:
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
> 
> # deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
> # deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
> deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/debian stretch stable
> # deb-src [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/debian stretch
> stable

The main issue here is that your stretch-updates sources are commented
out.  Uncomment them, and apt-get update.

Also someone did something involving docker.  I am not even going to
guess what that's all about.

Firefox ESR 60.6.2+ still unavailable for me

[Guilherme Vieira]

Hi folks!

I've been waiting for a few days now for a Firefox ESR update that fixes
the infamous add-ons certificates issue, but still nothing:

   - Debian version: Stretch.
   - Arch: amd64.
   - firefox-esr version: 60.6.1esr-1~deb9u1

I just ran:

$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for gui:
Ign:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release
Hit:4 https://download.docker.com/linux/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:5 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable InRelease
Ign:6 https://dl.bintray.com/getinsomnia/Insomnia  InRelease
Hit:7 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:8 http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian stretch InRelease
Get:9 https://dl.bintray.com/getinsomnia/Insomnia  Release [815 B]
Hit:9 https://dl.bintray.com/getinsomnia/Insomnia  Release
Hit:11 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease
Hit:12 https://download.fluidkeys.com/desktop/apt any InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
207 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.

$ apt list --upgradable |grep firefox

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in
scripts.

But as you can see there's still no update for firefox-esr, which is still
at version 60.6.1:

$ apt show firefox-esr
Package: firefox-esr
Version: 60.6.1esr-1~deb9u1
[...]

This is my *sources.list*:

#

# deb cdrom:[Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 9.5.0 gnome 2018-07-14T17:01]/
stretch main

# deb cdrom:[Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 9.5.0 gnome 2018-07-14T17:01]/
stretch main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main

# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/debian stretch stable
# deb-src [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/debian stretch
stable

I live in Brazil, so those sources are probably redirecting me to a
geologically closer mirror.

What should I do in order to have Firefox ESR updated to the latest version?

Atenciosamente / Sincerely,
Guilherme Prá Vieira

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting David Wright (2019-05-22 14:40:28)
> On Wed 22 May 2019 at 04:06:46 (+), Erik Josefsson wrote:
> > On 5/5/19 7:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > I don't know if there is a screw loose in your laptop, or
> > > warewolves pissed on a USB plugs.
> > 
> > Well, what comes out of one of the keyboards now is p.
> 
> In response to your pressing keys, or spontaneously?
> Rapidly or intermittently?
> Is this permanent (whenever you switch on) or just occasional?
> Or did it start mid-session?
> After dpkg-reconfigure console-setup or keyboard-configuration?

or the really scary one: Does it happen only when the moon is full?


 - Jonas

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Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

[David Wright]

On Wed 22 May 2019 at 04:06:46 (+), Erik Josefsson wrote:
> On 5/5/19 7:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > I don't know if there is a screw loose in your laptop, or
> > warewolves pissed on a USB plugs.
> 
> Well, what comes out of one of the keyboards now is p.

In response to your pressing keys, or spontaneously?
Rapidly or intermittently?
Is this permanent (whenever you switch on) or just occasional?
Or did it start mid-session?
After dpkg-reconfigure console-setup or keyboard-configuration?

Cheers,
David.

Re: Lectores de huellas biométricos

[Amid Ale]

Buen día Javier. Por lo pronto no se si la empresa Suprema tiene modulos
Ethernet pero si tienen sensores RS232. Estos se pueden manejar de forma
simple ya que el protocolo es abierto, el modelo que yo utilicé es el
SFM3050.

https://www.supremainc.com/embedded-modules/en/modules/sfm-3000.asp

saludos

El mar., 21 may. 2019 a las 12:50, Debian ()
escribió:

> Buenos días lista:
>
> Estoy con un proyecto para control de acceso de empleados mediante
> lectores biométricos de huellas digitales.
> Los que estoy viendo al momento, o son autónomos (todo empaquetado en un
> equipo), o su enlace me obliga a utilizar sistemas ("software")
> privativos, no basados de *nix, si no en Windows.
>
> Pregunta:
> ¿Conocen de algún equipo lector de huellas digitales de buena desempeño
> que pueda ser manejado desde un servidor Linux?
> Manejado me refiero a que el mismo pueda recibir pedidos de un programa
> y emita la respuesta; hay algunos que pueden ser manejados desde una
> página web, y se pueden bajar los datos a mano. Lo que yo necesito es
> que de alguna manera, mediante el cableado UTP pueda leer lo que el
> equipo ha ido almacenando.
> Que dentro de lo que el equipo trae en su documentación, esté la forma
> de acceder a, por ejemplo, requerimientos SQL de su motor de base de
> datos interno.
>
> Gracias
>
> JAP
>
>

Re: Gene you poor soul

[arne]

On Wed, 22 May 2019 05:34:17 -0400
Gene Heskett  wrote:

> For this, I need something that fits in a
> briefcase, and Just Works, maybe once a month.  Is such a beast even
> made today?  Doubtfull.
> 

I had a b portable Canon Bubble-jet which lasted 10 years or so. On
windows. Canon BJ-10sx.

Now they make color portables which look almost the same:

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/printers/support-inkjet-printer/bjc-series/bjc-85

W nawiązaniu do Sklepu

[Agencja Kreatywna]

Dzień dobry,



zajmujemy się budową: 
profesjonalnych nowoczesnych dostosowujących się do 
urządzeń mobilnych
*Stron* i *Sklepów* internetowych.



Jeśli chcieliby Państwo otrzymać bezpłatną, niezobowiązującą propozycję dla 
Państwa firmy w tym zakresie prosimy o odpowiedź TAK na ten e-mail.


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Re: Gene you poor soul

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 06:45:33 am Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2019-05-21 23:40 (UTC-0400):
> > I can't
> > even find the printer setup as I only had one other winbox in my
> > life..
>
> It's nicely disguised in my Win10 Pro. 39 items in the Control Panel,
> and instead of a title that starts with a P for printer, printer is
> hidden in D, for "Devices and Printers". Moronic.
>
> All my printing since too far back to remember is done via ethernet
> cable from printer to LAN switch. It's been so long since I set one up
> I don't remember whether I ever involved cups. I give the printer a
> fixed IP. Printer applets magically find these fixed IPs.
>
> I would think if the site you're at has a LAN with a printer connected
> it ought to be available to anything connected to the LAN, wired or
> wireless. Even if you can't get to the site's printer directly,
> something at home there ought to be able to take your print file and
> get it out via a z3azx printer.

Thanks Felix. But the hour is not yet "civilized." :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Can't Connect to Secure Wireless Network

[Joe Dennigan]

Hi,

Just a thought, but are you using a RTL wireless card?  I had a similar
problem connecting to my home router with an old Advent notebook and an
RTL818x.  I found out, by accident, that something in the package
firmware-realtek prevented the card from handling encrypted
connections properly.  Removing that package and just using the builtin
kernel module rtl818x_pci (the default, AFAIK) solved the problem.

Regards,

Joe Dennigan


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Re: Gene you poor soul

[Felix Miata]

Gene Heskett composed on 2019-05-21 23:40 (UTC-0400):

> I can't 
> even find the printer setup as I only had one other winbox in my life..  

It's nicely disguised in my Win10 Pro. 39 items in the Control Panel, and 
instead
of a title that starts with a P for printer, printer is hidden in D, for 
"Devices
and Printers". Moronic.

All my printing since too far back to remember is done via ethernet cable from
printer to LAN switch. It's been so long since I set one up I don't remember
whether I ever involved cups. I give the printer a fixed IP. Printer applets
magically find these fixed IPs.

I would think if the site you're at has a LAN with a printer connected it ought 
to
be available to anything connected to the LAN, wired or wireless. Even if you
can't get to the site's printer directly, something at home there ought to be 
able
to take your print file and get it out via a z3azx printer.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 05:50:51 am mick crane wrote:

> On 2019-05-22 10:34, Gene Heskett wrote:
>   Wally has some really cheap
>
> > $40 ones, but I suspect that I'd have to buy one per job because the
> > heads would dry up and clog between uses. Back when I was a fan of
> > epsons, the cost of the inks was $250/year just to print the nightly
> > amanda reports to exercise the printer. That worked out to about $1
> > a sheet and it still got clogged.
>
> I had one of those xerox phaser printers with solid colour blocks that
> worked really well until I dropped it.

I saw a couple of those on newegg just now. Relatively huge, and quite 
expensive too. Dependability has its own fee schedule...

> seemed like a way to stop the heads getting blocked but don't know if
> caught on.
> Not very small tho'
>
> mick
Thanks Mick

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 04:02:45 am Curt wrote:

> On 2019-05-22, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > Its working now, and I have other irons in the fire, like how do I
> > print to a printer shared by cups, from a win 10 Home edition that
> > has taken a snapshot of its full screen window and has stored it on
> > the win 10 box.
>
> I did it like this (I'm failing to parse some of the above, but
> whatever).
>
Not unusual, I don't touch type, and my brain outruns my fingers.  The 
results can be confusing due to skipped words, my apologies.

>  Open up the web interface to the server, select the Administration
> tab, look under the Server heading, and enable the "Share printers
> connected to this system" option. Save your change by clicking on the
> Change Settings button. The server will automatically restart.
>
>  On the Windows computer, go to Control Panel > Devices and Printers
> and choose 'Add a printer'. If on Windows 10, click "The printer that
> I want is not listed". Next, choose 'Select a shared printer by name'
> and type in the location of the printer:
>
>  http://hostname:631/printers/Printer_Name
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS/Printer_sharing#Between_GNU.
>2FLinux_and_Windows

I'll print this and take it to the windows box and check this out later 
today, thank you.  But I'll have to use ip addresses as I've yet to 
figure out how to set a hosts file on windows.  Like I said below, I'm 
the guy they write all those for dummies books for. And which by the 
time they get to the bookselves at wallies, are out of date. :(


> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Gene you poor soul

[mick crane]

On 2019-05-22 10:34, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Wally has some really cheap

$40 ones, but I suspect that I'd have to buy one per job because the
heads would dry up and clog between uses. Back when I was a fan of
epsons, the cost of the inks was $250/year just to print the nightly
amanda reports to exercise the printer. That worked out to about $1 a
sheet and it still got clogged.


I had one of those xerox phaser printers with solid colour blocks that 
worked really well until I dropped it.
seemed like a way to stop the heads getting blocked but don't know if 
caught on.

Not very small tho'

mick

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Re: got a new problem with heyu, and it is a bug in bfltty that kills all /dev/ttyUSBnumber's

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 03:47:00 am Curt wrote:

> On 2019-05-21, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> >> That I don't know. I don't have it here on my Stretch. It would be
> >> interesting to discover what dragged brltty into yours.
> >
> > Good question. The install image is supposed to be the latest
> > straight amd64 debian stretch, with a rt-preempt kernel and the
> > latest stable 2.7.4 linuxcnc.  Not much else is supposed to be
> > changed.
>
> If you had your ft232 connected at install time, and it was mistaken
> for a refreshable braille display, I suppose that would've brought in
> brltty as a consequence.
>
Humm, makes perfect sense since at the time there were 3 plugged in.  
I'll generally disconnect any drives I don't want a new install to 
touch, but it never occurred to me that I should unplug the usb stuffs.

But that I suspect explains it.  Call it mystery solved.

Thanks Curt.

> >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 22 May 2019 02:52:31 am mick crane wrote:

> On 2019-05-22 04:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Its working now, and I have other irons in the fire, like how do I
> > print
> > to a printer shared by cups, from a win 10 Home edition.
>
> I've only ever done it with networked printers.
> You may get lucky with cupsd on linux box that can print if you let
> windows search for a printer.

I do have an MFC at .21 on the local net.  One of Brothers tabloid sized 
Color inkjets. Windows 10-home doesn't seem to be aware of it. What I 
need for this job is a bare-a$$ed color printer, but all I could find at 
Staples last week were physicly huge MFC's.  Wally has some really cheap 
$40 ones, but I suspect that I'd have to buy one per job because the 
heads would dry up and clog between uses. Back when I was a fan of 
epsons, the cost of the inks was $250/year just to print the nightly 
amanda reports to exercise the printer. That worked out to about $1 a 
sheet and it still got clogged.  I didn't do that with the last one and 
wound up with the head hopelessly clogged, would not clean, 2 weeks 
after I parked it on the table from new in the box. $500 for an AI1. For 
this, I need something that fits in a briefcase, and Just Works, maybe 
once a month.  Is such a beast even made today?  Doubtfull.

> Otherwise the printer to select will be, I forget exactly, may be
> "local printer"
>
> http://ipaddress_of_pc_running_cupsd:631/exact_name_cups_identifies_pr
>inter_with.
>
> good luck
>
> mick

Thanks Mick.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Curt]

On 2019-05-22, mick crane  wrote:
>
> probably need the driver on windows as well.

Probably one or the other but not both.

> mick
>

Re: Gene you poor soul

[Curt]

On 2019-05-22, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
> Its working now, and I have other irons in the fire, like how do I print 
> to a printer shared by cups, from a win 10 Home edition that has taken a 
> snapshot of its full screen window and has stored it on the win 10 box. 

I did it like this (I'm failing to parse some of the above, but whatever).

 Open up the web interface to the server, select the Administration tab,
 look under the Server heading, and enable the "Share printers connected
 to this system" option. Save your change by clicking on the Change
 Settings button. The server will automatically restart.

 On the Windows computer, go to Control Panel > Devices and Printers and
 choose 'Add a printer'. If on Windows 10, click "The printer that I want
 is not listed". Next, choose 'Select a shared printer by name' and type
 in the location of the printer:

 http://hostname:631/printers/Printer_Name

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS/Printer_sharing#Between_GNU.2FLinux_and_Windows

> I've been forced to buy a winderz box to do a job that will bill in the 
> low 4 digit range.  And I'll need on site printouts so it looks as if I 
> go spend another $40 on a cheap inkjet and carry it around.  And I can't 
> even find the printer setup as I only had one other winbox in my life.. 
> I started out in the nix camp in the middle 80's, went to amigados in 
> the 90's, and to linux in '98 without ever having windows on the 
> premises. So I'm the dummy they write all those yellow books for.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: got a new problem with heyu, and it is a bug in bfltty that kills all /dev/ttyUSBnumber's

[Curt]

On 2019-05-21, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>>
>> That I don't know. I don't have it here on my Stretch. It would be
>> interesting to discover what dragged brltty into yours.
>>
> Good question. The install image is supposed to be the latest straight 
> amd64 debian stretch, with a rt-preempt kernel and the latest stable 
> 2.7.4 linuxcnc.  Not much else is supposed to be changed.

If you had your ft232 connected at install time, and it was mistaken for
a refreshable braille display, I suppose that would've brought in brltty
as a consequence.


>> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: /var trop gros

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonjour,

20 mai 2019 15:21 "Daniel Caillibaud"  a écrit:

> Tu as réglé le pb en montant ton ancienne partition /home avec le contenu
> de /var sur /var, mais pour une autre fois ou pour qqun d'autre qui
> tomberait sur ce fil, il me semble que mysql|mariadb n'aime pas les liens
> symboliques (ou alors c'est apparmor, me rappelle plus), il suffit de lui
> indiquer le vrai dossier source (dans ton cas c'était /home/lib/mysql/ à la
> place de /var/lib/mysql) dans la configuration mariadb (variable datadir, +
> éventuellement vérifier dans /etc/apparmor.d/ que c'est cohérent).

Pour ce genre de cas, j'utilise un montage "bind" :

mount /home/var/ /var/ -o bind

Du côté de l'application, l'illusion est parfaite et pas besoin de modifier
la conf.

Sébastien

Re: Can't Connect to Secure Wireless Network

[didier gaumet]

Le 21/05/2019 à 21:15, Kent West a écrit :
[...]
> also, in various forms. He believes we've got the settings right on Debian:
[...]
> Inner auth MSCHAPv2
[...]

MSCHAPv2 seems to be an old and insecure protocol and it is probably
used here to grant wifi access to old clients OSes (Win XP and al)

from
 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration#Troubleshooting
a solution could be to install
 https://packages.debian.org/stretch/network-manager-pptp-gnome
(since you seem to use network-manager as your network manager)

Re: GIMP on Jessie causes total freeze

[Tomaž Šolc]

Hi

On 21. 05. 19 16:42, Дмитриев Александр wrote:
> I've encountered a problem with GIMP on Jessie. It causes total system
> freeze with latest available kernel, but not with the previous. This can
> be reproduced on at least 2 PCs.
> I've tried to file a bug via reportbug, but it returns error 500.
> What are my further steps?

Jessie is an obsolete stable release. I doubt you will find anyone
interested in fixing this bug.

Consider upgrading your PCs to Stretch.

3.16 series kernels are still supported upstream. Latest release is
3.16.67. If you're feeling up to it, you can also try running your
Jessie system with an upstream kernel and see if your issue was already
fixed.

https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingKernelFromUpstreamSources

If that is not an option, downgrade the kernel and be aware that you're
running an old kernel with known security problems.

You can find the previous kernel version in /var/log/dpkg.log. Then
either pull the .deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives or try to find it
if it still exists on Debian mirrors online.

Best regards
Tomaž



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Re: Gene you poor soul

[mick crane]

On 2019-05-22 07:52, mick crane wrote:


http://ipaddress_of_pc_running_cupsd:631/exact_name_cups_identifies_printer_with.

sorry, seem to remember that's.
http://ipaddress_of_pc_running_cupsd:631/printers/exact_name_cups_identifies_printer_with

probably need the driver on windows as well.
mick


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Re: Gene you poor soul

[mick crane]

On 2019-05-22 04:40, Gene Heskett wrote:

Its working now, and I have other irons in the fire, like how do I 
print

to a printer shared by cups, from a win 10 Home edition.


I've only ever done it with networked printers.
You may get lucky with cupsd on linux box that can print if you let 
windows search for a printer.
Otherwise the printer to select will be, I forget exactly, may be "local 
printer"


http://ipaddress_of_pc_running_cupsd:631/exact_name_cups_identifies_printer_with.

good luck

mick

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