Re: Mailman

[Pierre Malard]

Bonjour,

Juste une question d’architecture, est-ce que tu as regardé la table
des alias ML pour voir s’il n’y a pas d’ambiguïté avec cette liste
et une autre ou avec les adresses de service ?

Une autre piste avec les logs s’il s’agit de plusieurs serveurs (mail
et mailman séparés).

Bonne chance

> Le 12 oct. 2020 à 19:37, ajh-valmer  a écrit :
> 
> Bonsoir,
> 
> Ma ML Mailman fonctionne très bien.
> Toutes les ML ne posent aucun problème.
> J'ai créé une nouvelle ml "succession-mt", avec 3 membres.
> 
> Je teste, voici le message reçu dans ma boîte :
> ": host mail.toto.org[212.33.254.165] said: 550
> 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User
> unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command)".
> 
> J'ai parcouru de nombreux tutos, rien à faire, toujours ce message.
> 
> Avez vous une idée ?
> 
> Grand merci d'une  aide.
> 
> A. Valmer
> 

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Re: SSD and HDD

[David Christensen]

On 2020-10-12 15:04, Weaver wrote:

On 13-10-2020 07:27, mick crane wrote:



I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and
switch to PCs


I personally have apf-firewall onboard, and it's hard to beat in my
opinion, for ease of config as well as efficiency, but pfsense is
excellent and, in a separate box, very good.


another old buster lenovo doing email


Any chance of putting this onto a separate drive in your firewall box?
This way it doesn't get any further into your system and you clear up
some clutter, with a machine you can allocate to something else.


If you mean "boot into either a firewall/ router or into a e-mail 
workstation", then the LAN will go down when the computer is booted into 
the e-mail workstation.



If you mean "add a graphical desktop environment and GUI e-mail client 
to the firewall/router", then, no insult intended, that is a very bad 
idea.  A firewall/ router should be running a stripped-down and hardened 
OS with only the software components necessary to perform its role in a 
network.  Adding an e-mail client to such a machine would not only be 
difficult, it would jeopardize the network.  (I attempted this with 
FreeNAS and it was a disaster.)



David

gestionnaire de fenêtres X11 pour grands écrans pour Debian

[Basile Starynkevitch]

Bonjour la liste Debian French,

J'utilise Linux depuis 1993 et préfère la ligne de commandes. J'ai deux 
grand écrans sous Debian/Sid. La commande xdpyinfo | grep -i -4 screen 
donne notamment



screen #0:
   dimensions:5360x1440 pixels (1418x381 millimeters)


Je cherche un gestionnaire de fenêtres X11 (X11 window manager) - ou 
probablement une configuration d'un tel gestionnaire de fenêtres (par 
exemple icewm, fvwm, ) qui:



1. démarre aisément une commande que je tape, si possible via zsh et la 
complétion associée.


2. gère les touches volume son de mon clavier Corsair Gaming K66 (AZERTY)

3. limite dans tous les cas la taille maximale des fenêtres X11 à 
3072x1024 pixels.


4. démarre quelques logiciels au click droit menu (lxterminal, firefox, 
thunderbird)


Je n'ai généralement pas besoin d'icônes desktop sur mon bureau. Je 
prefère très largement la ligne de commande.



Que me conseillez vous?


Librement

--
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opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes
Bourg La Reine, France; 
(mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma page web...)

Re: SSD and HDD

[David Christensen]

On 2020-10-12 14:27, mick crane wrote:


might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ?
I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and 
switch to PCs

another old buster lenovo doing email
another Buster PC I do bits of programming on.
Windows PC I play poker on and some games.
My approach to backup has been to copy files I want to keep to external 
HDs and other disks when I remember. If something goes wrong so long as 
I remember what the config files do it's not such a big deal to start 
again.

I suppose I should try to make it more formal

Tips for understood accepted wisdom appreciated, like is it better if 
want to use a windows program have this Virtualization or reboot and 
change boot order or just have it on another PC. And also practical 
method for backup hardware as consumer hardware only seem to have room 
for 2 disks at most.


mick


I did the "old PC firewall" for many years with IPCop.  It had a text 
console UI and I could login via SSH and do Linux things.  Then I added 
a consumer AP.  It had a web UI.  Then I changed the old PC to a 
consumer firewall/ VPN router and installed another at a remote site. 
Again, web UI's.  Keeping the configuration settings of only a few 
network devices in sync, each with its own UI, was problematic at best. 
Finally, I discovered UniFi, and its "software defined networking".  I 
have one "controller" (free as in beer) running on a virtual host 
(linode.com) that provides centralized command and control via a web UI 
for one or more devices organized into one or more networks.  Even with 
only one security gateway and one AP in my home, the administration 
savings is noticeable and welcome:


https://unifi-network.ui.com/


Backups are a subset of disaster planning, preparedness, recovery, etc.. 
 There seems to be two extremes:


1.  A packaged solution -- amanda, borg backup, bacula, etc..  These 
tools are very good from a pragmatic standpoint.


2.  Home-grown solutions, starting with basic tools  tar(1), gzip(1), 
rsync(1), then wrapped with shell scripts, then put into programs/ 
suites, etc..  Code weenies can go this route, as I did, but I'm not so 
sure it's a good idea.



Software for a specific platform runs the best when the platform is real 
hardware, rather then virtualization or emulation.  Rather than dual- or 
multi-boot several operating systems on one drive, I put trayless racks 
in my computers, put each OS on a separate drive, and mix and match as 
desired.



If you want a lot of drives in one build-your-own computer, look at full 
tower cases.  Alternatively, look at storage server products with 
multiple drive bays/ racks.



David

Re: Linux not seeing all SATA drives

[David Christensen]

On 2020-10-12 19:19, Dennis Wicks wrote:
I have 3 SATA drives on my system. I replaced all my red cables with new 
black cables. The BIOS sees all of them but when linux finishes booting 
it only sees two of them. Do I have to do something to linux so it sees 
the third drive?


FYI, I have the system disk in sata-1, the drive on sata2 is not seen, 
but the drive on sata3 is seen and in use. The CD/DVD drive is on sata6 
and is also seen.


Thanks for any and all help!
Dennis


Run the following commands as root.  If you need help interpreting the 
results, post your console session:


# lsblk

# fdisk -l

# mount | grep sd


David

Linux not seeing all SATA drives

[Dennis Wicks]

I have 3 SATA drives on my system. I replaced all my red 
cables with new black cables. The BIOS sees all of them but 
when linux finishes booting it only sees two of them. Do I 
have to do something to linux so it sees the third drive?


FYI, I have the system disk in sata-1, the drive on sata2 is 
not seen, but the drive on sata3 is seen and in use. The 
CD/DVD drive is on sata6 and is also seen.


Thanks for any and all help!
Dennis

Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

[Weaver]

On 13-10-2020 11:57, kaye n wrote:
> Hi guys, I don't know if there's any way to set it, but I would like
> to be able to do the following in Thunar file manager:
> 
> Let's say there are three files with the names - 
> apple-pie 
> banana-split 
> orange-juice
> 
> On the file manager window, I would type the letter o and the file
> 'orange-juice' would be selected.  However, I would also want the
> ability to select that file by typing j (for juice). 
> 
> This is possible with another file manager, but not with Thunar as far
> as I can tell.
> Am I wrong?  What other file managers would you recommend for my
> Debian system that has that feature?

I'd never need that feature for myself, as I learnt to read years ago,
but don't you think it would be more constructive to file as a bug with
the Thunar people?
Kind regards,

Harry
-- 
`Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful'.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.

Registered Linux User: 554515

one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager

[kaye n]

Hi guys, I don't know if there's any way to set it, but I would like to be
able to do the following in Thunar file manager:

Let's say there are three files with the names -
apple-pie
banana-split
orange-juice

On the file manager window, I would type the letter o and the file
'orange-juice' would be selected.  However, I would also want the ability
to select that file by typing j (for juice).

This is possible with another file manager, but not with Thunar as far as I
can tell.
Am I wrong?  What other file managers would you recommend for my Debian
system that has that feature?

Thank you for your time.
Kaye

backups Was: SSD and HDD

[Dan Ritter]

mick crane wrote: 
> 
> might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ?
> I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch
> to PCs
> another old buster lenovo doing email
> another Buster PC I do bits of programming on.
> Windows PC I play poker on and some games.
> My approach to backup has been to copy files I want to keep to external HDs
> and other disks when I remember. If something goes wrong so long as I
> remember what the config files do it's not such a big deal to start again.
> I suppose I should try to make it more formal

Only if you care about the data...

> Tips for understood accepted wisdom appreciated, like is it better if want
> to use a windows program have this Virtualization or reboot and change boot
> order or just have it on another PC.

That would depend. Is it a bother to reboot? Do you have a spare
PC? Both of those are easier and potentially faster than
virtualizing an existing system.


> And also practical method for backup
> hardware as consumer hardware only seem to have room for 2 disks at most.

So you have four or more PCs around, and don't mind having
another. Get an older machine and put two shiny new spinning
disks in it. Have the Debian installer set it up as MDADM RAID-1
-- mirrors. Use backupninja on the three Linux machines and have
them store their data on the backup machine. 

Now, you could have your Windows machine back up to your backup
as well. The problem is, Windows' built-in backup system wants
to write to a network filesystem, and once it has access to that
-- well, so does nasty ransomware on your Windows system. And
that would put your whole backup set at risk.

If there's a Windows backup system that runs across sftp or
rsync-over-ssh, that would be much better. Or you can plug an
external USB disk into the Windows machine and ask it to store
the backups there directly.

-dsr-

Re: How do I blacklist a package?

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:29:14 -0400
Stefan Monnier  wrote:

> > In /etc/apt/preferences.d/, create no-sse2-support:
> >
> > # never install this package, ever
> > Package: sse2-support
> > Pin: release *
> > Pin-Priority: -1
> 
> Thanks, it seems to be working.
> 
> It's a bit annoying that the resulting constraints aren't easily visible
> (e.g. APT just keep searching or tells you "no solution" but doesn't
> tell you that FOO can't be installed because it depends on BAR which
> depends on BAZ which depends on `sse2-support`), but it's better
> than nothing.

I am not 100% sure, but I think calling

 apt-mark hold sse2-support

while the package is not installed should prevent the package from being
installed, too, and I think this might be better regarding "visibility".

Regards

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

Totally illogical, there was no chance.
-- Spock, "The Galileo Seven", stardate 2822.3

Re: How do I blacklist a package?

[Stefan Monnier]

> In /etc/apt/preferences.d/, create no-sse2-support:
>
> # never install this package, ever
> Package: sse2-support
> Pin: release *
> Pin-Priority: -1

Thanks, it seems to be working.

It's a bit annoying that the resulting constraints aren't easily visible
(e.g. APT just keep searching or tells you "no solution" but doesn't
tell you that FOO can't be installed because it depends on BAR which
depends on BAZ which depends on `sse2-support`), but it's better
than nothing.


Stefan

Re: SSD and HDD

[Weaver]

On 13-10-2020 07:27, mick crane wrote:
> On 2020-10-11 19:01, Andy Smith wrote:
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:45:45PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
>>> Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes
>>> to SSD for longevity.
>>
>> Flash write endurance has come on leaps and bounds over the last
>> decade to the point where most people don't have to worry about
>> this.
>>
>> You can look at "tune2fs -l" output or at SMART attributes to see
>> how much has been written to your current filesystems / devices over
>> their life times, to see how your use case matches up against the
>> write endurance advertised for your SSD.
>>
>> I wouldn't recommend taking any special measures unless you have
>> some doubt that the SSD endurance is up to it.
>>
>> With only a single SSD and a single HDD I'd rate device failure from
>> other problems as a higher risk than wearing out the SSD.
>>
>>> Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to suitably
>>> formatted partitions on HDD ?
>>
>> If you still think you will have a problem then yes, that is one way
>> to go. Another is to leave some percentage of the SSD unpartitioned
>> and never used. That will increase its write endurance.
>>
>> [ Leaving aside the fact that if I were doing this I'd have an extra
>> storage device for redundancy… ]
>>
>> If I were in your position and still had concerns about write
>> endurance I'd probably put everything in LVM with a volume group on
>> the SSD and a volume group on the HDD. I'd then use separate logical
>> volumes for the filesystems that got a lot of writes. The use of LVM
>> like this would allow me to change my mind later and move LVs
>> between the SSD and HDD while the machine is online.
>>
>> Plus any time you are thinking of doing multiple filesystems, LVM is
>> a good bet.
>>
>> Plus you might be using LVM anyway for encryption.
>>
>> But again I can't emphasise enough how you are probably over thinking
>> write endurance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy

Hullo,

> 
> might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ?
> I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and
> switch to PCs

I personally have apf-firewall onboard, and it's hard to beat in my
opinion, for ease of config as well as efficiency, but pfsense is
excellent and, in a separate box, very good.

> another old buster lenovo doing email

Any chance of putting this onto a separate drive in your firewall box?
This way it doesn't get any further into your system and you clear up
some clutter, with a machine you can allocate to something else.

> another Buster PC I do bits of programming on.

Perhaps upgrade this to your main box, which you also do your
programming on?

> Windows PC I play poker on and some games.

The only games I play are Chess and Go, but I believe Linux also has
poker, although I don't know how well that integrates with online game
venues. Install Steam, and you have it all! The last time I used a
Windows box was when XP came out, and that was one of their better ones.
But, I actually bought a second-hand Windows 10 box recently (HP
EliteDesk G1), and all I use it for is a driver box for better scanners
and printers Linux doesn't cater to as yet. When the market picks up in
that regard, I'll probably turn it into a home theatre box running Kodi.
A possible option worth looking at.

> My approach to backup has been to copy files I want to keep to
> external HDs and other disks when I remember. If something goes wrong
> so long as I remember what the config files do it's not such a big
> deal to start again.
> I suppose I should try to make it more formal

Yep, make the leap to learn about back-ups. Depending on your desktop,
it can be quite easy. KDE run a gui set-up that you barely have to think
about, but config files for back-up ninja and a couple of others are,
literally, trivial to figure out. Not that I can talk. I didn't become
the world's foremost authority on reinstalls by backing up. It's for
chickens! But keeping a separate \home partition is good policy.

Cheers!

Harry.

-- 
`Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful'.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.

Registered Linux User: 554515

Re: SSD and HDD

[mick crane]

On 2020-10-11 19:01, Andy Smith wrote:

Hi Mick,

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:45:45PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid 
writes

to SSD for longevity.


Flash write endurance has come on leaps and bounds over the last
decade to the point where most people don't have to worry about
this.

You can look at "tune2fs -l" output or at SMART attributes to see
how much has been written to your current filesystems / devices over
their life times, to see how your use case matches up against the
write endurance advertised for your SSD.

I wouldn't recommend taking any special measures unless you have
some doubt that the SSD endurance is up to it.

With only a single SSD and a single HDD I'd rate device failure from
other problems as a higher risk than wearing out the SSD.

Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to 
suitably

formatted partitions on HDD ?


If you still think you will have a problem then yes, that is one way
to go. Another is to leave some percentage of the SSD unpartitioned
and never used. That will increase its write endurance.

[ Leaving aside the fact that if I were doing this I'd have an extra
storage device for redundancy… ]

If I were in your position and still had concerns about write
endurance I'd probably put everything in LVM with a volume group on
the SSD and a volume group on the HDD. I'd then use separate logical
volumes for the filesystems that got a lot of writes. The use of LVM
like this would allow me to change my mind later and move LVs
between the SSD and HDD while the machine is online.

Plus any time you are thinking of doing multiple filesystems, LVM is
a good bet.

Plus you might be using LVM anyway for encryption.

But again I can't emphasise enough how you are probably over thinking
write endurance.

Cheers,
Andy


might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ?
I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and 
switch to PCs

another old buster lenovo doing email
another Buster PC I do bits of programming on.
Windows PC I play poker on and some games.
My approach to backup has been to copy files I want to keep to external 
HDs and other disks when I remember. If something goes wrong so long as 
I remember what the config files do it's not such a big deal to start 
again.

I suppose I should try to make it more formal

Tips for understood accepted wisdom appreciated, like is it better if 
want to use a windows program have this Virtualization or reboot and 
change boot order or just have it on another PC. And also practical 
method for backup hardware as consumer hardware only seem to have room 
for 2 disks at most.


mick


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Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Thunderbird 78.3 avec Enigmail ?

[Sébastien Dinot]

Jean Bernon a écrit :
> L'ensemble me semble sûr ?

Plusieurs points me chagrinent dans la démarche de Thunderbird.

Le premier et le plus important est de principe. La cryptographie est un
savoir-faire à part entière et des plus pointus. Les outils fournissant
ce service sont critiques. Ils doivent être robustes, fiables et sûrs,
car ils sont la clé de voûte de trois fonctions essentielles :

* L'authentification
* La signature (et le contrôle d'intégrité)
* Le chiffrement

Or, Thunderbird est notoirement en manque de contributeurs et se lancer
dans un tel chantier quand on manque de ressources est déraisonnable,
d'autant plus que nous disposons déjà de briques cryptographiques
éprouvées.

En outre, Thunderbird offre un large éventail de fonctions. Il expose
donc une surface d'attaque bien plus grande qu'un outil se limitant à la
cryptographie. Si j'ai choisi de confier mes identifiants d'accès à mes
comptes en ligne à KeePassXC plutôt qu'à Firefox, c'est parce que j'ai
plus confiance en un outil dédié qu'en un outil se livrant à une
surenchère fonctionnelle tout azimut avec ses concurrents.

Mon dernier grief concerne le choix de protéger l'acès aux clés privées
par le mot de passe maître de Thunderbird. Une fois celui-ci saisi, les
secrets stockés par Thunderbird sont utilisables sans entrave tant que
Thunderbird est ouvert. Si l'utilisateur oublie de verrouiller sa
session avant de s'éloigner de son poste, un tiers peut envoyer des
messages signés à son insu ou lire ses messages chiffrés. À contrario,
GnuPG me demande de saisir le mot de passe verrouillant ma clé à chaque
fois que je veux signer ou déchiffrer un message et Enigmail oublie le
mot de passe au bout de 5 minutes. C'est bien plus sûr.

Sébastien

-- 
Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr
http://www.palabritudes.net/
Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer !

Re: [HS] Comment diffuser toutes les chaînes de la TNT sur réseau local de plus de 100 terminaux ?

[Haricophile]

Le Sun, 11 Oct 2020 16:44:28 +0200,
hamster  a écrit :

> Je vais sans doute dire une betise parce que je suis une bille dans ce
> domaine. J'avais cru comprendre qu'a l'origine, diffuser du contenu
> sur un réseau local, c'était la raison d'etre de VLC.
> 

Je suis une bille aussi, mais une bille qui prends de l'âge. Oui, VLC a
été conçu pour diffuser du contenu local avec un logiciel libre et
gratuit, dans le milieu éducatif ou ailleurs. Il est bien arrivé et a
été pas trop mal conçu parce qu'il est devenu un des "media player"
de référence des gens bien informés, tout logiciels compris même si ce
n'est pas à cause de son interface utilisateur...

Re: Mailman

[ajh-valmer]

Pourquoi je reçois cette réponse 3 fois ?

 > > Ma ML Mailman fonctionne très bien.
> > Toutes les ML ne posent aucun problème.
> > J'ai créé une nouvelle ml "succession-mt", avec 3 membres.
> > Je teste, voici le message reçu dans ma boîte :
> > : host mail.toto.org[212.33.254.165] 
> > said: 550
> > 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User
> > unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command)".
> > J'ai parcouru de nombreux tutos, rien à faire, toujours ce message.
> > Avez vous une idée ?
> > Grand merci d'une  aide.  A. Valmer

On Monday 12 October 2020 19:53:42 you wrote: 
> 
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt=Recipient+address+rejected%3A+User+unknown+in+virtual+mailbox+table=web

J'avais lu ce lien, il s'agit d'une solution avec "plesk",
ça ne m'apporte pas de solution.

Re: Mailman

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "ajh-valmer" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Lundi 12 Octobre 2020 19:37:41
> Objet: Mailman
> 
> Bonsoir,
> 
> Ma ML Mailman fonctionne très bien.
> Toutes les ML ne posent aucun problème.
> J'ai créé une nouvelle ml "succession-mt", avec 3 membres.
> 
> Je teste, voici le message reçu dans ma boîte :
> ": host mail.toto.org[212.33.254.165] said:
> 550
> 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User
> unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command)".
> 
> J'ai parcouru de nombreux tutos, rien à faire, toujours ce message.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt=Recipient+address+rejected%3A+User+unknown+in+virtual+mailbox+table=web


> 
> Avez vous une idée ?
> 
> Grand merci d'une  aide.
> 
> A. Valmer
> 

Mailman

[ajh-valmer]

Bonsoir,

Ma ML Mailman fonctionne très bien.
Toutes les ML ne posent aucun problème.
J'ai créé une nouvelle ml "succession-mt", avec 3 membres.

Je teste, voici le message reçu dans ma boîte :
": host mail.toto.org[212.33.254.165] said: 550
5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User
unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command)".

J'ai parcouru de nombreux tutos, rien à faire, toujours ce message.

Avez vous une idée ?

Grand merci d'une  aide.

A. Valmer

Re:

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 12 October 2020 11:14:08 Hervé wrote:

> Hello, how to be root? And what is the exec bit? I made the executable
> file in permission, and am trying to run it. As on the other
> distribution.

IF you are 1st user, open a konsole, cd to the directory the AppImage is 
in and type:

sudo chmod +u+x filename

IF you are not 1st user (1000), then get the person who is. to do it,

And its not kosher to send me a PM in response to a mailing list posting.  
Keeping the thread on the mailing list makes it so the next person can 
also find the answer already attached to the question.  That is what a 
user supported mailing list does best.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: Partial Mouse Lockup. New keyboard no response

[Hans]

Am Montag, 12. Oktober 2020, 17:33:46 CEST schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev:Got 
into a 
similar problem for years.  Suddenly keyboard (the internal of my notebook) 
stopped and 
I had to restart the window manager. 

This happened only in plasma5, not in LXDE or other window manager.

I read in some forum, that the problem of installing the package "fcitx" should 
stop this. I 
did, and - well the bug was gone. However, I did not understand why, because 
fcitx has 
just something to do with chinese or japanese fonts. No clue, what it was 
related to, but 
the bug was gone. 

At the moment I got into trouble with the touchpad, but I think, this is more a 
kernel 
module issue.

There is a bugreport, I filed to it.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Best

Hans

On 12.10.2020 17:18, Thomas George wrote:


10/12/20. Mouse working perfectly since reboot on 10/6/20 but this morning no 
response 
from keyboard. Tried ctl-alt-f1 and ctl-alt-f7 but no response. Not able to 
switch 
workplaces. Continued working in the current workspace using the mouse only. 
Verified 
mouse and keyboard batteries both at 50%. After several switches between open 
pages 
the keyboard recovered so I could write this. 2" All this on Ubuntu Studio. 
Again an 
intermittent problem. Keyboard just stopped working again and recovered after 
several 
minutes. 

Has anyone else experienced this? 

On 10/6/20 2:27 PM, Thomas George wrote: 


Mouse clicks don't work though mouse moves the pointer. 

This happens infrequently, once in a day or two. I am using two pc's, a 
raspberrypi and a 
Ubuntu Studio each with its own Logitech usb keyboard and have experienced  
this 
problem on both systems. 

I have tried to recover with various keyboard entries - ctl-c, cti-d, esc, q 
and by 
disconnecting and reconnecting the keyboard. Nothing but a reboot solves the 
problem.  
I use ctl-alt-f1 to open a terminal, sign in and enter shutdown -r now to do 
this. There is 
no problem with the keyboard. 

Is this a known problem? Is there a known solution? 





Taking into account that both devices now exhibit similar behavior, I'd start 
by looking 
into USB power saving functions [1]  and try to disable them to see if it 
solves the 
problem.That could be done by setting "autosuspend" parameter of kernel module 
"usbcore" to a negative integer value (-1).You can change it temporarily on 
running 
system by typing:sudo echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/power-management.txt[1]

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[1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/power-management.txt
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Re: Appimage file that does not launch

[Charles Curley]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 17:15:43 +0200
Hervé  wrote:

> what is the exec bit? I made the executable file in permission, and am
> trying to run it. As on the other distribution.
> 

First, please reply to the list so others get the benefit of the
exchange.

Second, please quote what you are replying to, so that I and others know
what you are talking about.

Most file transfer protocols will refuse to set the execute permission
bit on a transferred file, as a security measure. So after you pull in
an executable, you have to set the appropriate execute bit(s) to make it
possible to run it. E.g.:

chmod u+x file


So the answer to my question is, yes.


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Re: Partial Mouse Lockup. New keyboard no response

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 12.10.2020 17:18, Thomas George wrote:
> 10/12/20. Mouse working perfectly since reboot on 10/6/20 but this
> morning no response from keyboard. Tried ctl-alt-f1 and ctl-alt-f7 but
> no response. Not able to switch workplaces. Continued working in the
> current workspace using the mouse only. Verified mouse and keyboard
> batteries both at 50%. After several switches between open pages the
> keyboard recovered so I could write this.
>
> All this on Ubuntu Studio. Again an intermittent problem. Keyboard
> just stopped working again and recovered after several minutes.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> On 10/6/20 2:27 PM, Thomas George wrote:
>> Mouse clicks don't work though mouse moves the pointer.
>>
>> This happens infrequently, once in a day or two. I am using two pc's,
>> a raspberrypi and a Ubuntu Studio each with its own Logitech usb
>> keyboard and have experienced  this problem on both systems.
>>
>> I have tried to recover with various keyboard entries - ctl-c, cti-d,
>> esc, q and by disconnecting and reconnecting the keyboard. Nothing
>> but a reboot solves the problem.  I use ctl-alt-f1 to open a
>> terminal, sign in and enter shutdown -r now to do this. There is no
>> problem with the keyboard.
>>
>> Is this a known problem? Is there a known solution?
>>
>>
>
Taking into account that both devices now exhibit similar behavior, I'd
start by looking into USB power saving functions [1]  and try to disable
them to see if it solves the problem.
That could be done by setting "autosuspend" parameter of kernel module
"usbcore" to a negative integer value (-1).
You can change it temporarily on running system by typing:
    sudo echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
and re-pluging USB device so new settings will be taken into account.

[1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/power-management.txt

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Re: Appimage file that does not launch

[Charles Curley]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:37:50 +0200
Hervé  wrote:

> it is not possible to run an appimage file on Debian, whether in
> stable or testing. The file is good because it launches on MX linux
> and on ubuntu. It is a pity that this is not possible. Can't we
> improve that?

Did you set the execute bit?

I am running two recent Barcode to PC appimage files on Debian 10
(buster). The only problem I see is that the .desktop file never
appears. That I believe is a bug in the appimage code.

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Re: Appimage file that does not launch

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 12 October 2020 07:37:50 Hervé wrote:

> Hello,
> it is not possible to run an appimage file on Debian, whether in
> stable or testing. The file is good because it launches on MX linux
> and on ubuntu. It is a pity that this is not possible. Can't we
> improve that?

You may have to become root, and set the exec bit. I'm on stretch yet, 
and am running 3 AppImages here, one for cura, one for the latest 
freecad, and one for DeskProto. I've added that directory to my env's 
$PATH and they all Just Work.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Partial Mouse Lockup. New keyboard no response

[Thomas George]

10/12/20. Mouse working perfectly since reboot on 10/6/20 but this 
morning no response from keyboard. Tried ctl-alt-f1 and ctl-alt-f7 but 
no response. Not able to switch workplaces. Continued working in the 
current workspace using the mouse only. Verified mouse and keyboard 
batteries both at 50%. After several switches between open pages the 
keyboard recovered so I could write this.


All this on Ubuntu Studio. Again an intermittent problem. Keyboard just 
stopped working again and recovered after several minutes.


Has anyone else experienced this?

On 10/6/20 2:27 PM, Thomas George wrote:

Mouse clicks don't work though mouse moves the pointer.

This happens infrequently, once in a day or two. I am using two pc's, 
a raspberrypi and a Ubuntu Studio each with its own Logitech usb 
keyboard and have experienced  this problem on both systems.


I have tried to recover with various keyboard entries - ctl-c, cti-d, 
esc, q and by disconnecting and reconnecting the keyboard. Nothing but 
a reboot solves the problem.  I use ctl-alt-f1 to open a terminal, 
sign in and enter shutdown -r now to do this. There is no problem with 
the keyboard.


Is this a known problem? Is there a known solution?

Appimage file that does not launch

[Hervé]

Hello,
it is not possible to run an appimage file on Debian, whether in stable or
testing. The file is good because it launches on MX linux and on ubuntu. It
is a pity that this is not possible. Can't we improve that?

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Re: Error mounting LVM volume as root (SOLVED)

[David]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 12:36, Marc Shapiro  wrote:

> I had not thought that there was any real difference between the two
> formats, and this may well be the only instance where there is, but I'm
> going to use the '/dev/mapper/vgname-lvname' format in all locations
> from here on out.

I notice that 'man 8 lvm' on buster says:
"""
Links or nodes in /dev/mapper are intended only for internal use and
the precise format and escaping might change between releases and
distributions. Other software and scripts should use the
/dev/VolumeGroupName/LogicalVolumeName format to reduce the chance of
needing amendment when the software is updated.
"""

Re: SSD and HDD

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 11 oct 20, 19:06:12, Linux-Fan wrote:
> 
> Another common option is using the `relatime` mount option for SSDs, but I
> do not configure this explicitly on my systems.

According to mount(8) 'relatime' is the default since Linux 2.6.30.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Problems with Opera browser

[Sven Hartge]

Mick Ab  wrote:

> In the last few days, a couple of problems have arisen with using the
> Opera browser on a Debian Jessie system.

> Firstly, black rectangles appear on many webpages.

> Secondly, it is no longer possible to attach files to an email -
> nothing happens when the Browse button is clicked to find the file
> that is required to be attached to an email.

> Opera version is 64.0.3417.73

Since Opera is not a Debian package but a 3rd-party one, you need to ask
Opera about that.

Also Jessie is out of Long Term Support since June 30th 2020 and you
really shouldn't use it any longer, because there are not security
updates coming any more.

Please update to a supported Debian release to keep your data secure.

Grüße,
Sven.

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