Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 12:03 AM Dan Hitt wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM Dan Hitt wrote: > >> I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to >> figure out what to do. >> >> When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI booting, iirc. After >> dealing with it, i sort of lost track of what was happening in that arena. >> However, i don't want to get involved with that again. >> > I was dragged, "kicking and screaming" to UEFI booting. But, now that I'm here, it's "sort of" grown on me. What helped me, a lot, is a package called Refind. It's available on Debian, through normal Apt-Get, though it's good to, carefully read the Documentation before Installing. I'm sort of thinking about getting a Dell Inspiron but maybe i should buy >> from a linux vendor instead, such as 76? Presumably at least in that case >> at least i wouldn't have to worry about the bios. >> >> I certainly would want to get something which supported 2 or 3 internal >> disks, but i would also like to get something that could be booted from an >> external usb drive. Does that make sense? >> > Yes it does. As I said, I had a lot of trouble with UEFI at the beginning and, so had a workaround of setting it up to (by default) boot from an external USB Stick, but boot Linux Partitions on the main Hard Drive. Would it make sense to look for something where all usb ports are usb 3.0? >> I've never used usb 3.0 at home, so i'm kind of unclued. >> >> In a way, i'd like to have something with 2 ethernet ports on the >> motherboard, although i've found that usb-to-ethernet is adequate for my >> purposes. >> >> And i think i'd like to stick with debian, but i would consider any free >> OS. (So if i bought a Dell, i would add a disk drive or two, and boot off >> the debian disk, probably removing the windows disk.) >> > I have a mix on my HP Pavilion Desktop, with the two I boot most being Debian Bullseye and Mint 20. I'd appreciate any pointers or recommendations. >> > > And i forgot to add that i would like to be able to easily run qemu or > other virtual machines. How would that affect the choice of processor, > amount of memory, and disks? > That's one reason I am running Bullseye: I set up qemu-kvm on Mint 20, put a guest in, and promptly ran low on space. So I wanted to export it to Debian, but found that the version of qemu was higher than the one on Buster (which wouldn't allow the Import). So I'm on Bullseye. Research the differences between the versions of qemu and you might want Bullseye also. TIA! > > dan > Happy to help. Kenneth Parker
Re: Blind and Low-Vision UNIX Users Group
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 05:34:27PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Since I know we have some people on this list who might be > interested in this -- > > https://blvuug.org/ > > is the home of the new Blind and Low-Vision UNIX Users Group. > > They're just getting started. > > -dsr- Another list for this purpose: Blinux-list mailing list blinux-l...@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Joel Roth
Re: Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game].
On Sat 06 Mar 2021 at 11:46:33 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Looking at the threads from you over the last year+: I think I see a common > pattern. > > * You're the person that buys DVD sets from [somewhere] to install from, I > think Thats right. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/06/msg00225.html "As I have restricted bandwidth and DVD set are available on flash devices, I recently purchased Debian 10.0 for AMD64." https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/02/msg2.html "I have just installed Debian 10.7 to my Lenovo T510 Thinkpad having copied debian-10.7.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso to a flash drive [the machine is intentionally isolated from the internet]." > * You have issues with the install processes That's right, for example, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/04/msg00076.html > * You're prepared to stick to old software that works but have difficulty > getting the newer software to stick on any machine. Not so much newer software as newer methods. I want to use netinst, but I'm not networked. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg00135.html "2. a laptop onto which I wish to install Debian using a netinst.iso ." > * Everybody who is trying to help on the list is using newer software Not so much newer software as networked hardware. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/06/msg00435.html "Ethernet is *NOT* involved …" > * The issues you bring to the list tend to end up in a huge pile of mutual > misunderstandings True. Enough said. > * You don't like WiFi? I did, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/07/msg00405.html "I'm looking for a USB modem for cell network (preferred) or a WiFi hot spot (minimally acceptable)." but not anymore, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/10/msg00597.html "I have an 8-port switch but no physical space for it. I connect to the internet via a USB connected T-Mobile Hotspot. WiFi is disabled as it is a possible security problem contributing to unnecessary spectrum pollution." > * You have more than one machine such that references to them get confusing. Yes, in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg00094.html I perhaps gave the impression that "the first machine [Dell Latitude E6410]" was not the machine I wanted to install to (which was "a second machine". But now, in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg00237.html I've decided that it will be the Latitude after all. "That will be my Dell Latitude E6410 which I use everyday. At the moment I'm running the i386 flavor of Debian 9.13. It also has the AMD64 flavor of Debian 10.0 . Both installed from relevant DVD1." Oh, it's already running buster. Just 10.0 rather than 10.8. But let's see, I don't have a network in the conventional sense, so it's hard to upgrade like everyone else. So I'll try a fresh install from netinst; that's NETinst. Keep up. > Let me try and help narrow down some of the scope of what you're asking and > then see if we can help you on the debian-user list. Maybe you could: > > Pick one machine that you're wanting to install Debian on. [Just Debian, > for the moment]. > > This is a game of twenty questions > > What's this machine going to be FOR? > > 1. What's the end goal for that machine? What do you want to use it for? I'm always shooting "Towards a customizeable installer", building a customised preseed.cfg to churn out Debian installations. > 2. What desktop environment do you want on it? Too easy mate. MATE. > 3. What other software are you likely to need? > [If you've some idea of this up front and it's a defined goal - we can break > it into steps] I've played with LibreOffice Calc but it takes a lot of space. I didn't get on with its Base or Writer. Perhaps Mariadb/MySQL. Apache. TCL at one time. Bibletime. Lots of installer stuff, like debootstrap. Don't forget BASIC, of course. Old if possible. I've probably forgotten some. Oh, compilations of reading lists. But really, just as little as possible. Minimal. Minimalist. (Remember the data cap.) > 4. ** Will it need to dual boot another OS eventually ** Other customised Debians, yes. (I've abandoned M$.) > [5. Give it a friendly name we can refer back to in subsequent exchanges :-) ] [–expletive deleted–] > The physical machine: > > 1. What model is it? Any idea how old? Laptop/desktop? > > 2. Is it capable of running 64 bit software? > > 3. How much memory does it have [RAM]? > > 4. How much disk does it have [GB]? How many disks? > > 5. What video controller does it have [if known] > > 6. What ports or connectors does the machine have externally? My field service tech will get back on all that. > Installation: > > Internet provider > - > > 1. What internet bandwidth do you have available to you to do this? [Claimed > max speed / real speed you get] Does anyone ever know? > 2. That bandwidth gets to you how? Wired? Satellite? 4G connectivity? 4G, IIRC. > 3.Is that bandwidth shared
Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM Dan Hitt wrote: > I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to > figure out what to do. > > When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI booting, iirc. After > dealing with it, i sort of lost track of what was happening in that arena. > However, i don't want to get involved with that again. > > I'm sort of thinking about getting a Dell Inspiron but maybe i should buy > from a linux vendor instead, such as 76? Presumably at least in that case > at least i wouldn't have to worry about the bios. > > I certainly would want to get something which supported 2 or 3 internal > disks, but i would also like to get something that could be booted from an > external usb drive. Does that make sense? > > Would it make sense to look for something where all usb ports are usb > 3.0? I've never used usb 3.0 at home, so i'm kind of unclued. > > In a way, i'd like to have something with 2 ethernet ports on the > motherboard, although i've found that usb-to-ethernet is adequate for my > purposes. > > And i think i'd like to stick with debian, but i would consider any free > OS. (So if i bought a Dell, i would add a disk drive or two, and boot off > the debian disk, probably removing the windows disk.) > > I'd appreciate any pointers or recommendations. > And i forgot to add that i would like to be able to easily run qemu or other virtual machines. How would that affect the choice of processor, amount of memory, and disks? TIA! dan
on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?
I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to figure out what to do. When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI booting, iirc. After dealing with it, i sort of lost track of what was happening in that arena. However, i don't want to get involved with that again. I'm sort of thinking about getting a Dell Inspiron but maybe i should buy from a linux vendor instead, such as 76? Presumably at least in that case at least i wouldn't have to worry about the bios. I certainly would want to get something which supported 2 or 3 internal disks, but i would also like to get something that could be booted from an external usb drive. Does that make sense? Would it make sense to look for something where all usb ports are usb 3.0? I've never used usb 3.0 at home, so i'm kind of unclued. In a way, i'd like to have something with 2 ethernet ports on the motherboard, although i've found that usb-to-ethernet is adequate for my purposes. And i think i'd like to stick with debian, but i would consider any free OS. (So if i bought a Dell, i would add a disk drive or two, and boot off the debian disk, probably removing the windows disk.) I'd appreciate any pointers or recommendations. dan
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it [RESOLVED}
On 2021-03-06 15:54, Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-03-06 15:44, Gary Dale wrote: My phone lost its wifi so it only connects via the mobile data. In any event, the connection is through a public IP address. I've noticed one thing that puzzles me a little (after I tried removing and reinstalling Jitsi) and that is that the Debian/Buster package installs jitsi-videobridge while the jitsi install guide for Debian/Ubuntu talks about jitsi-videobridge2. On 2021-03-06 15:16, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides to act up. Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people of the meeting address. Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and the Android feed on the phone). I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. Is your phone connected via wifi to your LAN or to a mobile data service? Try it both ways. I suspect a STUN/TURN NAT issue. -dsr- BTW: I didn't change anything on the jitsi server between it working and it not working. I did ssh to it in the morning to check for apt updates but there weren't any. OK, it turns out the problem was with my phone. I have no idea why it worked yesterday but not today but when I tried it with another device, things worked.
Re: Onion on boot to remotely unlock root partition
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:41:33 +0100 Amuza en Hackea wrote: > Hello, I'm new to this list! > > With software like dropbear-initramfs, cryptsetup-initrafs and others > you can remotely unlock a booting Debian that has a LUKS-encrypted root > partition. > > That is possible because it runs a SSH server in its unencrypted boot > partition which gives you basic remote access. That basic access is > enough to enter the unlocking passphrase which will let the encrypted > system boot. > > That works great, but you need a public static address or DDNS and port > redirection. > > I would like to have an onion service running in the boot partition too, > that way I could do the same without caring about addresses, ports or > names. And would add privacy too. > > How could I make it? > > Any advise, suggestion or step-by-step guide would be very much welcome, > but please keep in mind that I am not a developer. > > Thank you very much! 1) I'm no expert, but I think that using tor instead of something like ddns for something like this is overcomplicating things, which is probably why not many people seem to be doing it. 2) That being said, here's a solution someone built for Arch - I don't know how easy it'll be to port it over to Debian: https://github.com/grazzolini/mkinitcpio-tor Celejar
Re: Re: The best way to install inkscape 1.0 on Debian stable
On 3/6/21 11:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2021 20:43:10 A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: > >> On 3/5/21 10:58 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Friday 05 March 2021 03:08:00 Alex Mestiashvili wrote: On 3/5/21 9:02 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Hi all, > > What is the best way to install the latest version of the inkscape > on Buster? > > Buster installs inkscape 0.9 and I still encounter lots of bugs > with it. I would like to try the latest but what is the best way > to install newest version? Download .deb file? They provide appimage, just download and run it. >>> >>> Which works, but I just now looked at .profile, and found that when >>> I looked at my $PATH, AppImage was not being added. I had several >>> months ago, created a $HOME/AppImages directory to store them in. >>> >>> It worked well for that, but wasn't being added to my $PATH. Seem >>> like it might be handy if it was. >>> >>> It was easier to add the missing 's' those two places in my .profile >>> than it was to fix all the links that would need to be fixed as I >>> have plural AppImages in that location now.. >>> >>> Now any bash shell that doesn't have the right $PATH seems to be >>> fixable by a ". $HOME/.profile". >>> >>> Those of you with multiple users might want to become root and fix >>> the copy in /etc/skel so new users are also blessed. But you'll need >>> to add the whole if/fi stanza to it. It was missing in my copy here. >>> And I just checked a buster install, which didn't have it. >>> >>> Was there a valid reason its not? Or is the idea too new? >>> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett >> >> Well, thanks all. >> I have tried appimage for the first time, it launched but obviously >> there is something wrong with my system other than inkscape itself, so >> I have to figure out what that is first. >> > You are correct, as an appimage, it fails to open anything, logging this > to the konsole window as it dies: > gene@coyote:~$ inkscape > Setting _INKSCAPE_GC=disable as a workaround for broken libgc > Run experimental bundle that bundles everything > > (process:1082): Gtk-WARNING **: 20:50:28.589: Locale not supported by C > library. > Using the fallback 'C' locale. > > (here I clicked on the open button) > > (org.inkscape.Inkscape:1082): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 20:51:17.953: Settings > schema 'org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser' does not contain a key > named 'show-type-column' > Trace/breakpoint trap > gene@coyote:~$ > > > So while this thread may be solved, now we have a new problem. Anybody > have a clue? Sounds like my gtk is too old, (this is still stretch) > but its supposed to be an AppImage. I don't believe it qualifies for > that label, so I'd fuss at the inkscape folks. But I don't have a dog in > this fight, and a 1920x1040 screen full of mailing lists already. > >> For now, I mark this thread as "Solved". >> >> Thank you. >> >> A Man Without any Clue > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > Ok, I tried to install the flatpak for the first time and it works. I do not know what is the deal with the faltpak, but I just followed the instruction t o install and run and seems it is running without any problems. I was about to update the Flacon and found there is something wrong with their release key so was searching the solution. Flacon also provide faltpak version and it says that is the way they recommend (Now, is that really true?) to install packages so I gave it to try. A.M.W.C.
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
On 2021-03-06 15:44, Gary Dale wrote: My phone lost its wifi so it only connects via the mobile data. In any event, the connection is through a public IP address. I've noticed one thing that puzzles me a little (after I tried removing and reinstalling Jitsi) and that is that the Debian/Buster package installs jitsi-videobridge while the jitsi install guide for Debian/Ubuntu talks about jitsi-videobridge2. On 2021-03-06 15:16, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides to act up. Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people of the meeting address. Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and the Android feed on the phone). I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. Is your phone connected via wifi to your LAN or to a mobile data service? Try it both ways. I suspect a STUN/TURN NAT issue. -dsr- BTW: I didn't change anything on the jitsi server between it working and it not working. I did ssh to it in the morning to check for apt updates but there weren't any.
Re: debian gnome login fingerprint
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:55:11 + Tiago Zaniquelli wrote: > Hello everybody. > > I am trying to setup my notebook with fingerprint login but I didn't have > success. > > The command lsbusb return this: > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:565a Realtek Semiconductor Corp. > Integrated_Webcam_HD > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 27c6:538d Shenzhen Goodix Technology Co.,Ltd. > FingerPrint > > Bus 001 Device 005: ID 8087:0aaa Intel Corp. Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson > Peak (JfP) > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > I use Debian with Gnome. > > Anyone could help me? Can't help, but here are some possibly relevant discussions, dealing with the same hardware you have: https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/XPS-13-9300-Does-fingerprint-reader-work-on-linux/td-p/7514958 https://www.dell.com/community/Inspiron/Linux-driver-for-Goodix-fingerprint-reader-27c6-538d-on-Dell/td-p/7734147 https://www.dell.com/community/Linux-General/No-driver-for-fingerprint-scanner-Goodix-GF3208-on-Linux/m-p/6242579 https://askubuntu.com/questions/1182758/how-to-use-27c6538d-goodix-fingerprint-dell-inspiron-5490-dell-vostro-5590 [Hint: when trying to get hardware working, try searching the web for the USB ids along with "linux".] Celejar
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
On 2021-03-06 15:36, Henning Follmann wrote: On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 01:38:07PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides to act up. Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people of the meeting address. Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and the Android feed on the phone). I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. Any ideas anyone? As usual, no logs => it didn't happen! Without any information one could only guess. -H # tail -n 32 jvb.log 2021-03-06 15:40:29.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:40:39.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:40:49.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:40:59.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:41:09.285 INFO: [23] VideobridgeExpireThread.expire#140: Running expire() 2021-03-06 15:41:09.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:41:19.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:41:29.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:41:39.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:41:49.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:41:59.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:42:09.285 INFO: [23] VideobridgeExpireThread.expire#140: Running expire() 2021-03-06 15:42:09.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:42:19.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:42:29.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:42:39.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:42:49.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:42:59.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:43:09.285 INFO: [23] VideobridgeExpireThread.expire#140: Running expire() 2021-03-06 15:43:09.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:43:19.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:43:29.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:43:39.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:43:49.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:43:59.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:44:09.285 INFO: [23] VideobridgeExpireThread.expire#140: Running expire() 2021-03-06 15:44:09.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:44:19.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.1S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:44:29.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:44:39.305 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170: Performed a successful health check in PT0.11S. Sticky failure: false 2021-03-06 15:44:49.306 INFO: [24] HealthChecker.run#170:
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
On 2021-03-06 15:36, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 01:38:07PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually
works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides
to act up.
Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system
and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed
from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people
of the meeting address.
Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up.
While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed
from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and
the Android feed on the phone).
I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried
reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which
worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help.
Any ideas anyone?
As usual, no logs => it didn't happen!
Without any information one could only guess.
-H
# tail -n 32 jicofo.log
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:06.901 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Added participant jid=
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521,
bridge=jvbbrew...@internal.auth.meet.rahim-dale.org/3b2b133c-6e81-4d54-9563-48bc57c16876
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:06.902 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Region info,
conference=22383: [[null, null]]
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:06.906 INFO: [136]
org.jitsi.jicofo.discovery.DiscoveryUtil.log() Doing feature discovery
for shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:06.906 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Added participant jid=
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557,
bridge=jvbbrew...@internal.auth.meet.rahim-dale.org/3b2b133c-6e81-4d54-9563-48bc57c16876
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:06.907 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Region info,
conference=22383: [[null, null, null]]
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:06.908 INFO: [137]
org.jitsi.jicofo.discovery.DiscoveryUtil.log() Doing feature discovery
for shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:07.192 INFO: [136]
org.jitsi.jicofo.discovery.DiscoveryUtil.log() Successfully discovered
features for
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521 in 285
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:07.215 INFO: [136]
org.jitsi.jicofo.AbstractChannelAllocator.log() Using
jvbbrew...@internal.auth.meet.rahim-dale.org/3b2b133c-6e81-4d54-9563-48bc57c16876
to allocate channels for:
Participant[shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521]@423117319
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.151 INFO: [137]
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features for
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557 in 1243
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.155 INFO: [137]
org.jitsi.jicofo.AbstractChannelAllocator.log() Using
jvbbrew...@internal.auth.meet.rahim-dale.org/3b2b133c-6e81-4d54-9563-48bc57c16876
to allocate channels for:
Participant[shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557]@2134948675
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.344 INFO: [136]
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session-initiate to:
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.366 INFO: [137]
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session-initiate to:
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.600 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Got session-accept from:
shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.614 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Received session-accept
from shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/c397d521 with
accepted sources:Sources{ video: [ssrc=2796851205 ssrc=3366031894
ssrc=2837324841 ] audio: [ssrc=682686965 ] }@887521678
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:08.619 WARNING: [32]
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shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:09.449 INFO: [32]
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shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:09.458 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.JitsiMeetConferenceImpl.log() Received session-accept
from shafeenasbirthdaypa...@conference.meet.rahim-dale.org/911a4557 with
accepted sources:Sources{ video: [ssrc=682624931 ssrc=616139617
ssrc=4223476417 ssrc=2608752843 ssrc=22331310 ssrc=4245847487 ] audio:
[ssrc=4124579793 ] }@703862439
Jicofo 2021-03-06 15:38:41.565 INFO: [32]
org.jitsi.jicofo.ChatRoomRoleAndPresence.log() Chat
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
My phone lost its wifi so it only connects via the mobile data. In any event, the connection is through a public IP address. I've noticed one thing that puzzles me a little (after I tried removing and reinstalling Jitsi) and that is that the Debian/Buster package installs jitsi-videobridge while the jitsi install guide for Debian/Ubuntu talks about jitsi-videobridge2. On 2021-03-06 15:16, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides to act up. Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people of the meeting address. Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and the Android feed on the phone). I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. Is your phone connected via wifi to your LAN or to a mobile data service? Try it both ways. I suspect a STUN/TURN NAT issue. -dsr-
Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 21:47:25 + Joe wrote: ... > If it's user-installed non-free firmware for network interfaces, that is > the state of manufacturing today: we're back to Winmodems and you're > stuck with it. I have one of the last netbooks to come with an Ethernet > port. A USB-Ethernet widget is quite useful to have around these days. To be fair, Winmodems have limited hardware and do much of their work in software running on the host hardware. Network devices that require loadable firmware can be quite capable, hardware-wise, and the firmware runs on the NIC hardware itself. Winmodems therefore often lack Linux support, since software has to be written for the host, while loadable firmware doesn't pose any particular technical problem for Linux (aside from the ideological problem of it being non-free). Celejar
Re: Onion on boot to remotely unlock root partition
Amuza en Hackea wrote: > I would like to have an onion service running in the boot partition too, > that way I could do the same without caring about addresses, ports or > names. And would add privacy too. > > How could I make it? > > Any advise, suggestion or step-by-step guide would be very much welcome, > but please keep in mind that I am not a developer. Looks like you want to add something to initrd https://wiki.debian.org/initramfs https://manpages.debian.org/buster/initramfs-tools-core/initramfs-tools.7.en.html and this looks like a guide http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=73452 I personally have registered for DDNS and setup the ISP router accordingly.
Onion on boot to remotely unlock root partition
Hello, I'm new to this list! With software like dropbear-initramfs, cryptsetup-initrafs and others you can remotely unlock a booting Debian that has a LUKS-encrypted root partition. That is possible because it runs a SSH server in its unencrypted boot partition which gives you basic remote access. That basic access is enough to enter the unlocking passphrase which will let the encrypted system boot. That works great, but you need a public static address or DDNS and port redirection. I would like to have an onion service running in the boot partition too, that way I could do the same without caring about addresses, ports or names. And would add privacy too. How could I make it? Any advise, suggestion or step-by-step guide would be very much welcome, but please keep in mind that I am not a developer. Thank you very much! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides to act up. Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people of the meeting address. Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and the Android feed on the phone). I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. Any ideas anyone?
Re: JAVA_HOME voor javaws
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 10:56:33PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 11:31:06AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 10:43:50AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > Ik weet echter niet met welke waarde. > > > > > > Dit is er aan "java" ge-installeerd: > > > > > > $ LANG=C apt search java | grep -i install | grep -e ^icedtea -e ^java -e > > > ^openjdk |grep -v ^lib > > > > > > WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in > > > scripts. > > > > > > icedtea-netx/unstable,now 1.8.4-1 all [installed] > > > > openjdk-10-jre/now 10.0.1+10-4 amd64 [installed,local] > > > openjdk-11-jre/unstable,now 11.0.11+4-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] > > > openjdk-17-jre/unstable,now 17~11-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] > > > openjdk-8-jre/now 8u275-b01-1 amd64 [installed,local] > > > > OK, je hebt dus 4 JVMs ge�nstalleerd staan: JDK8, 10, 11, en 17. > > > > wat zegt > > > > update-alternatives --display java > > > > ? Dat toont je welke JVM actief is. > > > $ LANG=C update-alternatives --display java > java - auto mode > link best version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-17-openjdk-amd64/bin/java > link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-17-openjdk-amd64/bin/java > link java is /usr/bin/java > slave java.1.gz is /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz OK, dus de java programma's wijzen naar JDK17. [...] > > Op een Debian-systeem hoort JAVA_HOME te verwijzen naar > > /usr/lib/jvm/default-java, wat een symlink is naar ��n van de > > ge�nstalleerde JVMs. Je kan de te gebruiken JVM selecteren via > > /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives -- wat een wrapper rond de gewone > > "update-alternatives" is, en ook de default-java symlink en een paar > > andere dingen beheert. > > Dat heb ik omgezet naar "Linux commandos" > > $ ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/default-java > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 28 okt 2018 /usr/lib/jvm/default-java -> > java-1.11.0-openjdk-amd64 ... en die verwijst naar JDK11. Dat is niet zoals het hoort. > $ sudo /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives > usage: update-java-alternatives [--jre-headless] [--jre] [--plugin] > [-v|--verbose] >-l|--list [] >-s|--set >-a|--auto >-h|-?|--help > $ sudo /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives --list > java-1.10.0-openjdk-amd64 1101 > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.10.0-openjdk-amd64 > java-1.11.0-openjdk-amd64 > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.11.0-openjdk-amd64 > java-1.17.0-openjdk-amd64 1711 > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.17.0-openjdk-amd64 > java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64 1081 > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64 Mooi, da's dezelfde informatie. > $ sudo /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives --set java-1.17.0-openjdk-amd64 > Er is geen programma dat clhsdb voorziet. > update-alternatives: fout: geen alternatieven voor extcheck > Er is geen programma dat hsdb voorziet. > update-alternatives: fout: geen alternatieven voor javah > update-alternatives: fout: geen alternatieven voor jhat > update-alternatives: fout: geen alternatieven voor jsadebugd > update-alternatives: fout: geen alternatieven voor mozilla-javaplugin.so > update-alternatives: fout: geen alternatieven voor native2ascii Eh, OK, dat lijkt op een bug. Ik zou ze rapporteren? In de tussentijd is OpenJDK17 niet de standaardversie (het pakket "default-java" verwijst op mijn bullseye naar OpenJDK11, (nog) niet naar 17). Daarom, voorstel: verwijder OpenJDK17 volledig, en probeer update-java-alternatives opnieuw uit te voeren. Groeten, -- To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy -- seen somewhere on the Internet on a photo of a billboard
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 01:38:07PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually > works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides > to act up. > > Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system > and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed > from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people > of the meeting address. > > Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. > While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed > from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and > the Android feed on the phone). > > I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried > reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which > worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. > > Any ideas anyone? > As usual, no logs => it didn't happen! Without any information one could only guess. -H -- Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com
Re: Jitsi keeps failing when I want to use it
Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running a Jitis-meet server on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system. It usually > works fine. However every time I want to actually host a meeting, it decides > to act up. > > Yesterday evening I tested Jitsi with a meeting between my desktop system > and my Android phone. Everything worked properly. I could see the video feed > from both devices on both devices. Since it was working, I notified people > of the meeting address. > > Today, I tried it again pre-meeting only to find the usual issue cropped up. > While both devices can connect to the meeting, I can only see the video feed > from the local device (I can see my desktop feed on the desktop browser and > the Android feed on the phone). > > I tried creating a new meeting but I get the same problem. I've tried > reinstalling Jitsi-meet (and also Jicofo and Jitsi-videobridge2), which > worked in the past, but still no luck. Nor does rebooting the server help. Is your phone connected via wifi to your LAN or to a mobile data service? Try it both ways. I suspect a STUN/TURN NAT issue. -dsr-
Re: Bullseye: Redshift and Wayland
On Saturday, 06 March at 06:40, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2021-03-05 12:28:53-0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > > Redshift does not appear able to work with Wayland on Bullseye. Is there > > a workaround or fix? > > Redshift is made for X Window System (on Linux): it uses X's features to > set color temperature. Here is a quote from Redshift's FAQ: > > > The Wayland protocol does not support Redshift. There is currently > no way for Redshift to adjust the color temperature in Wayland. > > Instead, you can use: > > In GNOME Shell: Settings → Display Settings → Night Light > In Plasma: System Settings → Display and Monitor → Night Color > Or you can use 'gammastep'. It's similar to redshift. > > https://github.com/jonls/redshift > > -- > /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. https://www.iki.fi/tlikonen/ > // OpenPGP: 4E1055DC84E9DFF613D78557719D69D324539450 -- All the best Wim
Re: Part 2 {Re: Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game]}
> > I'm not sure what protocol would be running over the USB2 interface - maybe > PPTP - equivalent to some of the dial-up protocols. > A small note: PPTP works on top of IP, it is a VPN protocol. It encapsulates PPP protocol (which I believe you were talking about). PPP can run IP over point-to-point connections like VPNs or serial/com ports (connected either directly or with dial up modems). There are alot of serial ports for USB and Linux supports them: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/usb/usb-serial.html So, it should be possible to run PPP-over-usb with a usb serial converter. There are ethernet adapters for USB, but not of all of them are supported by Linux https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-Ethernet-Network-Adapter/dp/B00M77HLII
Re: Part 2 {Re: Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game]}
On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 09:32:11AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/06/2021 05:46 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > [snip what I responded to in the previous reply] > > > > Let me try and help narrow down some of the scope of what you're asking and > > then see if we can help you on the debian-user list. Maybe you could: > > > > Pick one machine that you're wanting to install Debian on. [Just Debian, > > for the moment]. > > That will be my Dell Latitude E6410 which I use everyday. At the moment I'm > running the i386 flavor of Debian 9.13. It also has the AMD64 flavor of > Debian 10.0 . Both installed from relevant DVD1. > As others have said: you could just use apt-get update / Synaptic to bring the 10.0 up to 10.8. > I do this for two reasons. > First, it proves I can run Debian configured "my way". > Second, it makes all installation logs conveniently available. > > > > > This is a game of twenty questions > > > > What's this machine going to be FOR? > > > > 1. What's the end goal for that machine? What do you want to use it for? > > The immediate goal is diagnosing the problem of netinst.iso not accessing > the web for required packages. The Dell E6410 has Ethernet. It also has Intel WiFi. Installing iwlwifi and using WiFi would solve your problem here, potentially. Using the non-free unofficial firmware CD might also help, as this might contain any other firmware needed. [Using the 4G hotspot in the most usual manner.] I'm not sure what protocol would be running over the USB2 interface - maybe PPTP - equivalent to some of the dial-up protocols. > Next will be fine tuning a preseed.cfg to simplify having the system that > suits my peculiar set of software preferences. Install [using the expert mode which will ask all the questions] a minimal text only system: add software by hand thereafter? > Long term will be collecting questions to be asked by an upgraded Debian > installer. You are essentially creating a system for yourself: do you see that this would be useful to others? > > > > > 2. What desktop environment do you want on it? > > A very lean MATE. > > > > > 3. What other software are you likely to need? > > [If you've some idea of this up front and it's a defined goal - we can break > > it into steps] > > That problem was solved long ago. Its called Synaptic. > Just checked: Synaptic is maintained :) > > > > 4. ** Will it need to dual boot another OS eventually ** > > It will be multiboot from the start. I've been doing that with no problems > since Squeeze. > So it will boot 2x Debian - at different releases? > > > > 5. Give it a friendly name we can refer back to in subsequent exchanges :-) > > "Dell" as it is the only Dell laptop I own. My other machines are ThinkPads > and one custom ordered desktop now collecting dust. > > > > > The physical machine: > > > > 1. What model is it? Any idea how old? Laptop/desktop? > > A used Dell Latitude E6410 laptop purchased as a refurbished machine a few > years ago. > > > > > 2. Is it capable of running 64 bit software? > > Yes > > > > > 3. How much memory does it have [RAM]? > > 4GB > Maybe OK for Mate - slightly low for heavier weight desktops / significant additional dependencies. > > > > 4. How much disk does it have [GB]? How many disks? > > Internally a 150 GB HDD with ~32 GB free. 32G free is fairly small space for a full featured Debian, potentially. Would you be looking to replace either of the Debian copies already installed? > I have a collection of external drives available. > I can dedicate a 64 GB flash drive (still in bubble pack ;) > See elsewhere on debian-user, debian-boot etc. - installing entirely to flash drive may be less than performant especially if anything needs to swap. > > > > 5. What video controller does it have [if known] Intel > > > > 6. What ports or connectors does the machine have externally? > > Two USB ports are available > > > > Installation: > > > > Internet provider > > - > > > > 1. What internet bandwidth do you have available to you to do this? [Claimed > > max speed / real speed you get] > > Unknown. Suspect speed is limited to USB2 bandwidth. What speed do T Mobile claim that you are paying for / that you can download at? (They are probably assuming usage of WiFi here) > > > > > 2. That bandwidth gets to you how? Wired? Satellite? 4G connectivity? Ultimately via 4G connectivity - mediated via USB2 > > > > 3.Is that bandwidth shared between lots of devices - can you spare > > bandwidth/time for installation for this new machine? > > Used only by this machine. After bug report is created I will continue to > use purchased point releases. It is inescapably more convenient. > > > > > 4. Do you have an all inclusive plan for data/phone? > > I have never owned a so-called smart phone. Screens too small to be legible. > > > > > 5. Do you have a data cap? [Or a practical limit where you can only download > > X MB of data in
debian gnome login fingerprint
Hello everybody. I am trying to setup my notebook with fingerprint login but I didn't have success. The command lsbusb return this: Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:565a Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Integrated_Webcam_HD Bus 001 Device 003: ID 27c6:538d Shenzhen Goodix Technology Co.,Ltd. FingerPrint Bus 001 Device 005: ID 8087:0aaa Intel Corp. Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson Peak (JfP) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub I use Debian with Gnome. Anyone could help me? Regards, Tiago Zaniquelli
Re: Impresión rebelde
> 1. En LibreOffice 7.1.0.3 (versión de Document Foundation) cuando voy a > imprimir un documento de writer, y quiero sacar varias copias, sólo me > imprime una. Tengo seleccionada la opción de «crear tareas de impresión > separadas parauna saldia intercalada» pero activada o desactivada no > hace efecto alguno. Efectivamente, bien sea desde evince, o desde writer de libreoffice, cuando doy imprimir varias copias de una misma página, solo imprime una. La solución temporal ha sido usar el cuadro del rango de páginas y poner por ejm: 2,2,2,2,2; si necesito varias copias de la página 2. > -- > Camaleón > Atentamente, -- Mancho
Re: Blind and Low-Vision UNIX Users Group
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021, 17:34 Dan Ritter wrote: > > Since I know we have some people on this list who might be > interested in this -- > > https://blvuug.org/ > > is the home of the new Blind and Low-Vision UNIX Users Group. > > They're just getting started. > > -dsr- > Thanks for the tip, Dan!
Part 2 {Re: Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game]}
On 03/06/2021 05:46 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [snip what I responded to in the previous reply] Let me try and help narrow down some of the scope of what you're asking and then see if we can help you on the debian-user list. Maybe you could: Pick one machine that you're wanting to install Debian on. [Just Debian, for the moment]. That will be my Dell Latitude E6410 which I use everyday. At the moment I'm running the i386 flavor of Debian 9.13. It also has the AMD64 flavor of Debian 10.0 . Both installed from relevant DVD1. I do this for two reasons. First, it proves I can run Debian configured "my way". Second, it makes all installation logs conveniently available. This is a game of twenty questions What's this machine going to be FOR? 1. What's the end goal for that machine? What do you want to use it for? The immediate goal is diagnosing the problem of netinst.iso not accessing the web for required packages. Next will be fine tuning a preseed.cfg to simplify having the system that suits my peculiar set of software preferences. Long term will be collecting questions to be asked by an upgraded Debian installer. 2. What desktop environment do you want on it? A very lean MATE. 3. What other software are you likely to need? [If you've some idea of this up front and it's a defined goal - we can break it into steps] That problem was solved long ago. Its called Synaptic. 4. ** Will it need to dual boot another OS eventually ** It will be multiboot from the start. I've been doing that with no problems since Squeeze. 5. Give it a friendly name we can refer back to in subsequent exchanges :-) "Dell" as it is the only Dell laptop I own. My other machines are ThinkPads and one custom ordered desktop now collecting dust. The physical machine: 1. What model is it? Any idea how old? Laptop/desktop? A used Dell Latitude E6410 laptop purchased as a refurbished machine a few years ago. 2. Is it capable of running 64 bit software? Yes 3. How much memory does it have [RAM]? 4GB 4. How much disk does it have [GB]? How many disks? Internally a 150 GB HDD with ~32 GB free. I have a collection of external drives available. I can dedicate a 64 GB flash drive (still in bubble pack ;) 5. What video controller does it have [if known] 6. What ports or connectors does the machine have externally? Two USB ports are available Installation: Internet provider - 1. What internet bandwidth do you have available to you to do this? [Claimed max speed / real speed you get] Unknown. Suspect speed is limited to USB2 bandwidth. 2. That bandwidth gets to you how? Wired? Satellite? 4G connectivity? 3.Is that bandwidth shared between lots of devices - can you spare bandwidth/time for installation for this new machine? Used only by this machine. After bug report is created I will continue to use purchased point releases. It is inescapably more convenient. 4. Do you have an all inclusive plan for data/phone? I have never owned a so-called smart phone. Screens too small to be legible. 5. Do you have a data cap? [Or a practical limit where you can only download X MB of data in six hours or so so large downloads are impractical]. Speed is acceptable. I have enough data cap space for an install using netinst.iso . Connecting to the ISP supplied device - the Alcatel? Yes 1. What interface is provided by the device that the ISP has given you? *SOLD* I own it outright. The connection is USB. 2. How do you control the ISP device to change settings / check connectivity? There is an app for that ;} 3. Do you have a second device which you can use to connect to the ISP's device to check My service is tied exclusively to that device. Given that we can't actually sit by your side Part of the reason I multiboot this operation. It makes error logs trivial to pass on. One thing that explains why narrowly focus my question is that I have decades in field support - some as field service some as engineering tech support. At times the distinction has been rather fuzzy. to do this: answers to some of these in order may help us figure out exactly how to go from here. TIA
Re: Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game].
On 03/06/2021 05:46 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Hi Richard,
Hi yourself.
Just how did you know I'd just finished my first cup of coffee?
as one well past 'three score and ten' it's decaf :{
Looking at the threads from you over the last year+: I think I see a common
pattern.
Yep. Been trying to define what the specification of the Debian
installer _should_ be since the days of Squeeze and abandonment of M$.
* You're the person that buys DVD sets from [somewhere] to install from, I
think
I have lots of flashy tree ornaments on my bookcases.
They *WERE* an absolute necessity back when I was on dial-up.
I was one of my ISP's last 5 dial-up customers before going with
T-Mobile 4G service.
* You have issues with the install processes
Not so much the process, but with Debian's quixotic attempt to be
"ALL things to ALL people ALL of the time".
I've *never* had any problem installing from DVD1 (or image thereof).
That's been on a half dozen or more machines. In my early attempts to
define what Debian's installation process SHOULD look like, I did as
many as 15 installs from scratch in a week.
* You're prepared to stick to old software that works but have difficulty
getting the newer software to stick on any machine.
*NO* The problem is solely with my recent attempt to use the netinstall
iso. IIRC I had used it a couple of time years years ago.
* Everybody who is trying to help on the list is using newer software
I typically have moved to a new release about its second or third point
release. This time it's later than usual as I am considering moving from
32 bit to 64 (which all of my machines can handle).
* The issues you bring to the list tend to end up in a huge pile of mutual
misunderstandings
True
* You don't like WiFi?
It does not have any benefit and I see it as a potential gross security
chasm. It's not worth any effort to use.
* You have more than one machine such that references to them get confusing.
I've only referred to more than one machine to demonstrate that my
problems are machine independent.
I'll answer "20 questions" after lunch.
I've places to go and things to do.
See you folks later.
Thank you.
Re: Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game].
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 22:46, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Looking at the threads from you over the last year+: > I think I see a common pattern. This has been going on since 2015 or so. > Given that we can't actually sit by your side to do this: answers to some of > these in order may help us figure out exactly how to go from here. A few years ago I figured out that if I can't answer in 10 seconds, then it's best to avoid adding to endless, useless threads.
Re: [1/2HS] Partition n°1 amorçable
On Saturday 06 March 2021 00:31:05 you wrote: > Bonjour, > Ce qui est amorçable c'est le MBR. > Ce MBR contient l'information où aller chercher le programme de démarrage > (généralement GRUB, mais ce peut-être LILO ou un autre). > Ce programme de démarrage va ensuite guider le système vers la distribution > à lancer sur la partition ou le disque adéquat. > S'il n'y a pas de programme de démarrage, le MBR envoie directement vers > l'OS à lancer. Dans ce cas l'OS doit être sur le même disque et dans la > première partition. Voili, voilou. Cassis Merci, mais "fdisk -l" indique bien "/dev/sda1 amorçable", pas le MBR. > De: ajh-valmer > Question technique sur fdisk, d'où le 1/2 HS : > fdisk -l m'informe que ma partition sda1 est amorçable. > Je boote mon système sur la partition sda2 sans problème, > (via grub). > Quel est l'intérêt de déclarer la partition 1 amorçable ? > peut-on mofifier le n° de la partition amorçable, p. ex. sda2 ? > et cette action peut-elle causer une cata ?
Installation and other problems ... [20 questions game].
Hi Richard, Looking at the threads from you over the last year+: I think I see a common pattern. * You're the person that buys DVD sets from [somewhere] to install from, I think * You have issues with the install processes * You're prepared to stick to old software that works but have difficulty getting the newer software to stick on any machine. * Everybody who is trying to help on the list is using newer software * The issues you bring to the list tend to end up in a huge pile of mutual misunderstandings * You don't like WiFi? * You have more than one machine such that references to them get confusing. Let me try and help narrow down some of the scope of what you're asking and then see if we can help you on the debian-user list. Maybe you could: Pick one machine that you're wanting to install Debian on. [Just Debian, for the moment]. This is a game of twenty questions What's this machine going to be FOR? 1. What's the end goal for that machine? What do you want to use it for? 2. What desktop environment do you want on it? 3. What other software are you likely to need? [If you've some idea of this up front and it's a defined goal - we can break it into steps] 4. ** Will it need to dual boot another OS eventually ** [5. Give it a friendly name we can refer back to in subsequent exchanges :-) ] The physical machine: 1. What model is it? Any idea how old? Laptop/desktop? 2. Is it capable of running 64 bit software? 3. How much memory does it have [RAM]? 4. How much disk does it have [GB]? How many disks? 5. What video controller does it have [if known] 6. What ports or connectors does the machine have externally? Installation: Internet provider - 1. What internet bandwidth do you have available to you to do this? [Claimed max speed / real speed you get] 2. That bandwidth gets to you how? Wired? Satellite? 4G connectivity? 3.Is that bandwidth shared between lots of devices - can you spare bandwidth/time for installation for this new machine? 4. Do you have an all inclusive plan for data/phone? 5. Do you have a data cap? [Or a practical limit where you can only download X MB of data in six hours or so so large downloads are impractical]. Connecting to the ISP supplied device - the Alcatel? 1. What interface is provided by the device that the ISP has given you? 2. How do you control the ISP device to change settings / check connectivity? 3. Do you have a second device which you can use to connect to the ISP's device to check Given that we can't actually sit by your side to do this: answers to some of these in order may help us figure out exactly how to go from here. All the very best, Andy C.
Re: Fwd: Impresión rebelde
El 2021-03-05 a las 13:55 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió: > El vie, 5 de mar. de 2021 a la(s) 11:27, Camaleón (noela...@gmail.com) > escribió: > > > > El 2021-03-05 a las 10:10 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió: > > > > > El vie, 5 de mar. de 2021 a la(s) 06:43, Camaleón (noela...@gmail.com) > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > Hola, > > > > > > > > 2. El nuevo menú de impresión de Firefox 86.0 (versión de Mozilla), que > > > > no me desagrada, no me permite seleccionar una salida a doble cara, > > > > tengo > > > > que volver al menú antiguo para poder habilitarlo. O no está la opción > > > > o no la veo... > > > > > > > cerca del final del menu, en mas opciones, si la impresora lo permite, > > > aparece la posibilidad de doble cara. > > > > Pues... no lo veo. > > > > https://justpaste.it/97b7e > > > > La impresora es una HP Laserjet color 4600 (admite duplex) pero no lo > > veo dentro del nuevo menú → más ajustes :-? > > > > Si a ti te lo muestra, ¿qué versión de Firefox tienes? ¿Y qué impresora? > > version de firefox y menu en > https://justpaste.it/8z93k > La impresora es una Ricoh SP 377SFNwX con el controlador Generic PCL > Laser Printer por socket Pues muchas gracias por los datos. He probado añadiendo una nueva impresora en CUPS (test), pero con un controlador genérico PCL3, y tampoco me aparece esa opción. https://justpaste.it/53fp8 Lo curioso es que si le digo que use el diálogo del sistema, sí detecta la doble cara, independientemente del controaldor que use (postscript, hplip, hpcups pcl3)... no sé qué pensar, quizá este sistema simplificado de impresión aún está en fase de pruebas :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón
