Re: [SOLVED] SDDM doesn't show up at boot

[Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z]

Hello,

El mié, 20 oct 2021 a las 23:38, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
() escribió:
> Just after updating Debian to 10.11, the problem was solved.
> Now I can set up the keyboard system-wide correctly,
> and SDDM is starting as expected.  Thanks again,
> Mr. Cater.

I have some bad news, it is happening again.  Now, the problem is not
the keyboard; instead, if I change from virtual terminal (VT) 7 to 1 pressing
Ctrl + Alt + F1 before SDDM finishes loading, then when I come back
to VT 7 it gets stuck again.

I saw the logs with "journalctl -xe" and the messages are the same,
"sddm-helper" can not connect to display :0 of the X server,
or any display and it returns with an error.  The "systemd" session
for "sddm" is stopped and the VT 7 only has a black screen and a cursor;
SDDM itself and the X server is still running.

What do you think?  Should I report this as a bug?

Well, thanks for your time and help.

Have a nice day.

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Re: How to install official AMDGPU linux driver on Debian 11?

[piorunz]

On 22/10/2021 01:19, Linux-Fan wrote:


Before your initial post, there was already some discussion about a very
similar case in the following thread:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00700.html

Summary: Just following AMDs instructions may lead to compile errors
(see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00738.html)
whereas it worked for my GPU and downloaded driver:
(see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00738.html)

I am interested in the questions of yours, but unfortunately cannot
provide much of an assistance beyond what I already wrote in the other
thread.



Yes the other thread which I opened is just a few threads down. OpenCL
driver for modern Radeon 6800 XT which I have has 0% success rate
installing in Debian 11. I exhausted all options I found. You have
non-Radeon AMD card as I remember, probably driver is made by other team
at AMD. No idea. I invite anyone to have a try. Debian is disadvantaged
in this regard comparing to Ubuntu, which is supported by AMD. O_o

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Re: How to install official AMDGPU linux driver on Debian 11?

[Linux-Fan]

Markos writes:


Em 17-10-2021 19:47, piorunz escreveu:

On 17/10/2021 22:27, Markos wrote:

Hi,

Please, could someone suggest a tutorial (for a basic user) on how to
install the driver for the graphics card for a laptop Lenovo IdeaPad
S145 with AMD Ryzen™ 5 3500U and AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 running Debian 11
(Bullseye).

I found a more complete tutorial just for Stretch and Buster:

https://wiki.debian.org/AMDGPUDriverOnStretchAndBuster2

What are the possible risks of problems using these AMD drivers?


[...]


No reply so far.

So, it seems that no one is interested in this question. :-(

Or none managed to do this installation, yet.


[...]

Before your initial post, there was already some discussion about a very  
similar case in the following thread:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00700.html

Summary: Just following AMDs instructions may lead to compile errors
(see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00738.html)
whereas it worked for my GPU and downloaded driver:
(see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00738.html)

I am interested in the questions of yours, but unfortunately cannot provide  
much of an assistance beyond what I already wrote in the other thread.


HTH
Linux-Fan

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Re: openssh server remote access

[James B]

That's 'systemctl status ssh' without the 1) of course.I meant to put more 
steps but decided not to

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Em Sex, 22 Out ʼ21, às 00:18, James B escreveu:
> Hi Semih,
>
> In my opinion, I would go back to basics first.You may have installed 
> openssh but it doesn't necessarily run by default (for reasons that 
> will make sense when you look at it further).Do you know how to start 
> systemd services? It looks to me like your ssh server isnt' running.So, 
> run (with sudo privileges or root and presuming you're on a normal 
> variant of Debian and not one with an alternative init system such as 
> SysV)
>
> 1) systemctl status ssh
>
> Post the result please
>
> JB
>
> -- 
>   James B
>   portoteache...@fastmail.com
>
> Em Sex, 22 Out ʼ21, às 00:05, David escreveu:
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 09:53, Semih Ozlem  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From:Semih Ozlem 
>>> To:Debian Users , 
>>> ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> Please, do not send individual messages to more than one
>> mailing list.
>>
>> It is rather unfriendly to everyone else that reads each list, because
>> we do not see any conversation that occurs on the other mailing list.
>>
>> Please confine any conversations that you have, on any mailing list,
>> entirely to that one mailing list. Sure, you can ask the same question
>> on multiple mailing lists at the same time, but please keep them
>> as separate conversations.

Re: openssh server remote access

[James B]

Hi Semih,

In my opinion, I would go back to basics first.You may have installed openssh 
but it doesn't necessarily run by default (for reasons that will make sense 
when you look at it further).Do you know how to start systemd services? It 
looks to me like your ssh server isnt' running.So, run (with sudo privileges or 
root and presuming you're on a normal variant of Debian and not one with an 
alternative init system such as SysV)

1) systemctl status ssh

Post the result please

JB

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Em Sex, 22 Out ʼ21, às 00:05, David escreveu:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 09:53, Semih Ozlem  
> wrote:
>
>> From:Semih Ozlem 
>> To:Debian Users , ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
>
> Please, do not send individual messages to more than one
> mailing list.
>
> It is rather unfriendly to everyone else that reads each list, because
> we do not see any conversation that occurs on the other mailing list.
>
> Please confine any conversations that you have, on any mailing list,
> entirely to that one mailing list. Sure, you can ask the same question
> on multiple mailing lists at the same time, but please keep them
> as separate conversations.

Re: openssh server remote access

[David]

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 09:53, Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> From:Semih Ozlem 
> To:Debian Users , ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

Please, do not send individual messages to more than one
mailing list.

It is rather unfriendly to everyone else that reads each list, because
we do not see any conversation that occurs on the other mailing list.

Please confine any conversations that you have, on any mailing list,
entirely to that one mailing list. Sure, you can ask the same question
on multiple mailing lists at the same time, but please keep them
as separate conversations.

Re: openssh server remote access

[Semih Ozlem]

I am unable to access my modem settings page when writing 192.168.1.100 to
check if there is a firewall.

Below is the web page that I get


Unable to connect

Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at 192.168.1.100.

The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a
few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network
connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make
sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

Any ideas?

Greg Wooledge , 21 Eki 2021 Per, 21:32 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 09:07:02PM +, Semih Ozlem wrote:
> > Yes the error message is
> >
> > ssh: connect to host (ip address of remote host) port 22: Connection
> refused
>
> This message means one of these things:
>
> 1) The sshd process is not running, or is not listening on the default
> port.
>
> 2) A firewall is preventing your connection.
>
>
> You would normally check the first thing by using "ss" or "netstat" on
> the server, and verifying that the process is indeed LISTEN-ing on the
> expected interface(s) and port.  For example:
>
> unicorn:~$ ss -ant | grep :22
> LISTEN0  128  0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:*
> [...]
>
> This tells me that something is listning on port 22 on all IPv4 interfaces.
>
> If you don't see a line like this, then you need to investigate the ssh
> service more deeply.  Perhaps start by running "journalctl -u ssh" to
> read its logs.
>
> If you *do* see a line like this, then you need to look at network-level
> stuff, like firewalls, routers, and so on.
>
>

Re: openssh server remote access

[dmacdoug]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:41:43PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I set up an openssh server and I am trying to access that machine remotely
> (not from the local network. but from another ip address). I get an error
> (something about port 22). What setting needs to be checked and what needs
> to be done on the machine that openssh server is running and on the router
> that machine is connected to, so that openssh server can be accessed
> remotely?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Semih Ozlem

Assuming your sshd server is on a computer attached 
to a router which is your gateway to the internet, and 
the router is set to forward port 22 to that computer
some ISP's don't route port 22 traffic.  I know that 
AT&T blocks port 22 traffic and it gives that message.  
I set the sshd server to listen on port 26 instead and 
it works fine.

Don MacDougall

Re: openssh server remote access

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 09:07:02PM +, Semih Ozlem wrote:
> Yes the error message is
> 
> ssh: connect to host (ip address of remote host) port 22: Connection refused

This message means one of these things:

1) The sshd process is not running, or is not listening on the default port.

2) A firewall is preventing your connection.


You would normally check the first thing by using "ss" or "netstat" on
the server, and verifying that the process is indeed LISTEN-ing on the
expected interface(s) and port.  For example:

unicorn:~$ ss -ant | grep :22
LISTEN0  128  0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:*
[...]

This tells me that something is listning on port 22 on all IPv4 interfaces.

If you don't see a line like this, then you need to investigate the ssh
service more deeply.  Perhaps start by running "journalctl -u ssh" to
read its logs.

If you *do* see a line like this, then you need to look at network-level
stuff, like firewalls, routers, and so on.

Re: openssh server remote access

[Joe]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:48:38 +0300
Semih Ozlem  wrote:

> I think it was something like "ssh: connect to host  port 22:
> Connection refused" It will take me a little while to get the same
> error message again.
> 
>

Ideally you need to do more than open the ssh port, particularly if you
intend to connect from the Internet. ssh is one of the most commonly
attacked services, for obvious reasons.

You need a tutorial on setting up ssh with keys, and disabling password
access. There are many such on the Net.


-- 
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Re: openssh server remote access

[Semih Ozlem]

Yes the error message is

ssh: connect to host (ip address of remote host) port 22: Connection refused



Semih Ozlem , 21 Eki 2021 Per, 20:48
tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> I think it was something like "ssh: connect to host  port 22:
> Connection refused" It will take me a little while to get the same error
> message again.
>
> James B , 21 Eki 2021 Per, 23:45 tarihinde
> şunu yazdı:
>
>> Hi Semih,
>>
>> Could you post the exact wording of the error message please?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> JB
>>
>> --
>>   James B
>>   portoteache...@fastmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Em Qui, 21 Out ʼ21, às 21:41, Semih Ozlem escreveu:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I set up an openssh server and I am trying to access that machine
>> remotely (not from the local network. but from another ip address). I get
>> an error (something about port 22). What setting needs to be checked and
>> what needs to be done on the machine that openssh server is running and on
>> the router that machine is connected to, so that openssh server can be
>> accessed remotely?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Semih Ozlem
>>
>>
>>

Re: openssh server remote access

[Semih Ozlem]

I think it was something like "ssh: connect to host  port 22:
Connection refused" It will take me a little while to get the same error
message again.

James B , 21 Eki 2021 Per, 23:45 tarihinde
şunu yazdı:

> Hi Semih,
>
> Could you post the exact wording of the error message please?
>
> Best
>
> JB
>
> --
>   James B
>   portoteache...@fastmail.com
>
>
>
> Em Qui, 21 Out ʼ21, às 21:41, Semih Ozlem escreveu:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I set up an openssh server and I am trying to access that machine remotely
> (not from the local network. but from another ip address). I get an error
> (something about port 22). What setting needs to be checked and what needs
> to be done on the machine that openssh server is running and on the router
> that machine is connected to, so that openssh server can be accessed
> remotely?
>
> Thank you
>
> Semih Ozlem
>
>
>

Re: openssh server remote access

[James B]

Hi Semih,

Could you post the exact wording of the error message please?

Best

JB

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  portoteache...@fastmail.com



Em Qui, 21 Out ʼ21, às 21:41, Semih Ozlem escreveu:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I set up an openssh server and I am trying to access that machine remotely 
> (not from the local network. but from another ip address). I get an error 
> (something about port 22). What setting needs to be checked and what needs to 
> be done on the machine that openssh server is running and on the router that 
> machine is connected to, so that openssh server can be accessed remotely?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Semih Ozlem

openssh server remote access

[Semih Ozlem]

Hi everyone,

I set up an openssh server and I am trying to access that machine remotely
(not from the local network. but from another ip address). I get an error
(something about port 22). What setting needs to be checked and what needs
to be done on the machine that openssh server is running and on the router
that machine is connected to, so that openssh server can be accessed
remotely?

Thank you

Semih Ozlem

isc-dhcp-server and use-host-decl-names

[Charles Curley]

I run two dhcpd servers on my LAN with failover and DDNS updates. In the
past I have set certain machines up with fixed addresses and host
names, like so:

host dragonw
{
   option host-name "dragonw";
   hardware ethernet ee:ee:ee:ee:ee:ee;
   fixed-address iii.iii.ii.i;
   ddns-hostname dragonw;
}

However, if I understand the man page for dhcpd.conf correctly, I can
get rid of both the ddns-hostname and host-name declarations by
enclosing the host declaration in a group which has use-host-decl-names
on, like so:

ignore client-updates;

group {
use-host-decl-names on;

host dragonw
{
   hardware ethernet ee:ee:ee:ee:ee:ee;
   fixed-address iii.iii.ii.i;
}

}

However, at least three cases since I made that change, dhcp has used
another name, which I guess is the name requested by the host.

What am I missing?

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Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[Felix Miata]

Greg Wooledge composed on 2021-10-21 09:27 (UTC-0400):

> Now, knowing that this is a piece of hardware that was released in 2021,
> I would *not* attempt to run Debian 9 on it.  You *might* be able to
> run Debian 11 on it, if you're lucky! 
> 


Early 2021 (Q1) is when that particular G6405 model was launched[1], but it's a
Comet Lake, which was originally launched August 21, 2019[2], so should be
Stretch-compatible at least via backports.

[1]

[2] 
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Felix Miata

Re: Keyboard prevents screensaver & scrolling terminal window

[Jeff]

Hi Thomas,

On 19/10/2021 22:31, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Seems to be considered a firmware bug of the keyboard which might become
repairable in the future:
   https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=267365


Oh, yes. Even better. Worked a treat.

Thanks again

Jeff



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Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Kenneth Parker]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:02 AM David  wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:53, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
> > And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan?
>
> Questions like this can be answered with an
> internet search engine. Search for "Seagate SMR".
> For fun you can add search terms like
> "controversy guilty dreaded bad press" etc
>

What?  Seagate Magnetic Recording caught Shingles?  (Sorry!)

Kenneth Parker

>

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 06:35:30AM -0400, alt...@emypeople.net wrote:
> In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian 
> system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole 
> system to a later Debian version?
> 

In general, I'd really suggest running the latest Debian stable.

> 
> In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI 
> H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405 CPU.  Have updated to 
> latest backport kernel, and firmware packages.  For the most part 
> everything works fine, however Xorg is falling back to using fbdev 
> graphic driver.
> 

Intel firmware needed as others have suggested.

> 
> This system is used in an offline application, and I'm not ready to 
> upgrade to Debian 11 at this time.
> 
> 
> Thanks, Allen
> 
> Please CC me.  I only get the debian-digest mailings
> 

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[piorunz]

On 21/10/2021 03:34, David Christensen wrote:

Very detailed analysis, better than mine! Much appreciated.

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Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 21 October 2021 09:02:01 David wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:53, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan?
>
> Questions like this can be answered with an
> internet search engine. Search for "Seagate SMR".
> For fun you can add search terms like
> "controversy guilty dreaded bad press" etc.

Very Interesting and most informative Dan, and thank you.

Carefully reading between the lines of several hits also explains why I 
stopped having major failures of amanda, the backup software, when I 
replaced a 1Tbyte seagate with a 240 gig series 860 samsung SSD, used as 
a holding disk while amanda is collecting its data to be written to tape 
w/o shoeshining the tape while at the same time cutting the time to do a 
20 gig backup from 3 or 4 hours, to 20 minutes.

This post is also being sent to the amanda-users list to alert the users 
who are currently being affected by this and not finding a definitive 
answer.

Bottom line for amanda users is, do not use todays spinniing rust drives 
as holding disks. They are simply not trustworthy for short term buffer 
storage.

Symptoms are reported to the user as crc errors in the holding disk. That 
particular DiskList Entry is then repeated until a good crc is obtained. 
But that also leaves the bad crc data left on the holding disk 
eventually using up its capacity without manual intervention to clean up 
the mess. A genuine PITA for us, and leaves the drive makers in an 
unfavorable, bad dog, no biscuit light.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 09:03:43AM -0400, Allen Hoover wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 08:09:20AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > alt...@emypeople.net wrote: 
> > > In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI 
> > > H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405 CPU.

> > Do you have a backport xserver-xorg-video-intel ? That's usually
> > the determining factor for X11 issues like this.

> The xserver-xorg-video-intel package description says use of it is 
> discouraged on hardware newer than 2007.  I thought the built in 
> modesetting driver is used for intel hardware?

So... that name is confusing as all hell, isn't it.  I just Googled it,
and it turns out the full name of the CPU is "Intel Pentium Gold G6405"
and it was released this year.

I completely fail to understand Intel's branding strategy here.  It
sounds like something ancient ("Pentium"), but apparently "Pentium Gold"
is something new.  If they wanted it to sound new, they failed.

Now, knowing that this is a piece of hardware that was released in 2021,
I would *not* attempt to run Debian 9 on it.  You *might* be able to
run Debian 11 on it, if you're lucky!

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[Allen Hoover]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 08:09:20AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> alt...@emypeople.net wrote: 
> > In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian 
> > system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole 
> > system to a later Debian version?
> > 
> > 
> > In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI 
> > H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405 CPU.  Have updated to 
> > latest backport kernel, and firmware packages.  For the most part 
> > everything works fine, however Xorg is falling back to using fbdev 
> > graphic driver.
> > 
> > 
> > This system is used in an offline application, and I'm not ready to 
> > upgrade to Debian 11 at this time.
> 
> Do you have a backport xserver-xorg-video-intel ? That's usually
> the determining factor for X11 issues like this.
> 
> The other thing would be -- have you explicitly set the driver
> to be intel in xorg.conf?
> 
> If neither of those things work, you should upgrade to 10 and
> then 11.
> 
> -dsr-

The xserver-xorg-video-intel package description says use of it is 
discouraged on hardware newer than 2007.  I thought the built in 
modesetting driver is used for intel hardware?

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 21 oct 21, 16:02:43, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 21 oct 21, 08:53:10, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 October 2021 08:13:26 Dan Ritter wrote:
> > 
> > > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> > > > Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188
> > >
> > > You should be able to return this drive without proving that it
> > > is defective; this is one of Seagates' SMR drives that they did
> > > not disclose were SMR.
> > >
> > > -dsr-
> > 
> > And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan?
> 
> Wikipedia is quite helpful for such queries.
> 
> Searching for 'SMR' brings one to a fairly long disambiguation page, but 
> there is only one entry mentioning hard drives ;)
> 
> The first two paragraphs of the article is already quite informative on 
> why one might want to avoid SMR drives.

And let's not forget about
https://www.truenas.com/community/resources/list-of-known-smr-drives.141/

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 21 oct 21, 08:53:10, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 October 2021 08:13:26 Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
> > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> > > Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188
> >
> > You should be able to return this drive without proving that it
> > is defective; this is one of Seagates' SMR drives that they did
> > not disclose were SMR.
> >
> > -dsr-
> 
> And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan?

Wikipedia is quite helpful for such queries.

Searching for 'SMR' brings one to a fairly long disambiguation page, but 
there is only one entry mentioning hard drives ;)

The first two paragraphs of the article is already quite informative on 
why one might want to avoid SMR drives.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[David]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:53, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan?

Questions like this can be answered with an
internet search engine. Search for "Seagate SMR".
For fun you can add search terms like
"controversy guilty dreaded bad press" etc.

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 21 October 2021 08:13:26 Dan Ritter wrote:

> > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> > Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188
>
> You should be able to return this drive without proving that it
> is defective; this is one of Seagates' SMR drives that they did
> not disclose were SMR.
>
> -dsr-

And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan?

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 21 oct 21, 06:35:30, alt...@emypeople.net wrote:
> In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian 
> system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole 
> system to a later Debian version?
> 
> 
> In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI 
> H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405 CPU.  Have updated to 
> latest backport kernel, and firmware packages.  For the most part 
> everything works fine, however Xorg is falling back to using fbdev 
> graphic driver.

You could try manually installing only the kernel from bullseye (Debian 
11) or buster-backports if that doesn't work out.

In general Debian is very flexible in using an older or newer kernel and 
as far as I can tell the dependencies for the kernel in bullseye are 
satisfied in stretch.

Hope this helps,
Andrei
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Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Dan Ritter]

Thomas Anderson wrote: 
> Here are the results, of my smartctl test:
> 
> I am trying to parse them myself, to see if I can learn anything. But,
> immediate glance
> 
> and queries did not reveal anything that could help me determine if the
> drive is good or not.
> 
> 
> smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.19.0-18-amd64] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
> 
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188


You should be able to return this drive without proving that it
is defective; this is one of Seagates' SMR drives that they did
not disclose were SMR.

-dsr-

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[Dan Ritter]

alt...@emypeople.net wrote: 
> In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian 
> system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole 
> system to a later Debian version?
> 
> 
> In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI 
> H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405 CPU.  Have updated to 
> latest backport kernel, and firmware packages.  For the most part 
> everything works fine, however Xorg is falling back to using fbdev 
> graphic driver.
> 
> 
> This system is used in an offline application, and I'm not ready to 
> upgrade to Debian 11 at this time.

Do you have a backport xserver-xorg-video-intel ? That's usually
the determining factor for X11 issues like this.

The other thing would be -- have you explicitly set the driver
to be intel in xorg.conf?

If neither of those things work, you should upgrade to 10 and
then 11.

-dsr-

Re: How to install official AMDGPU linux driver on Debian 11?

[piorunz]

On 21/10/2021 06:33, Felix Miata wrote:

Markos composed on 2021-10-21 00:29 (UTC-0300):


So, it seems that no one is interested in this question. :-(



Or none managed to do this installation, yet.


Could it be that readers here are content with the FOSS driver?


More likely readers here don't use/need OpenCL. FOSS driver doesn't
support that at all.

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Debian 9 on H410 hardware

[altech]

In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian 
system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole 
system to a later Debian version?


In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI 
H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405 CPU.  Have updated to 
latest backport kernel, and firmware packages.  For the most part 
everything works fine, however Xorg is falling back to using fbdev 
graphic driver.


This system is used in an offline application, and I'm not ready to 
upgrade to Debian 11 at this time.


Thanks, Allen

Please CC me.  I only get the debian-digest mailings

Re: computer screen blink

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hi,
you may fist determine if it is a hardware issue or a software issue.
Some Mac screens are known to flicker after a while.
What is your computer ? Can you boot on Windows/MacOS to see if the same thing 
happens ?
Knowing your hardware may help a lot.
hth,
Jerome

On 21/10/2021 10:51, lina wrote:

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Tctl:         +62.6°C
Tdie:         +62.6°C
Tccd1:        +45.2°C
Tccd2:        +62.8°C
Tccd3:        +60.8°C
Tccd4:        +45.8°C
Tccd5:        +43.8°C
Tccd6:        +45.2°C
Tccd7:        +43.5°C
Tccd8:        +43.5°C

nvme-pci-4800
Adapter: PCI adapter
Composite:    +34.9°C  (low  =  -0.1°C, high = +89.8°C)
                        (crit = +94.8°C)

nouveau-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
GPU core:    912.00 mV (min =  +0.80 V, max =  +1.19 V)
temp1:        +34.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst =  +3.0°C)
                        (crit = +105.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)
                        (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:22 PM Andrew M.A. Cater mailto:amaca...@einval.com>> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 02:42:11PM +0200, lina wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > After using the computer for a long while, my screen will blink.
 >
 > It has been months since the last time I upgraded the system.
 >
 > I don't know how to start checking, every time I have to reboot the
 > computer,
 >
 > would be great to get your advice,
 >
 > thanks,

First things first: update your computer. Security fixes and fixes for
other problems come out all the time.

What Debian version are you running?

On what sort of computer?

Do you have screensavers or similar kicking in?

is there a temperature issue?

Are there logs?

A little more information would be helpful.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

Re: computer screen blink

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 09:50:06AM +0200, lina wrote:
> # aptitude full-upgrade
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libebook-1.2-20{a} libebook-contacts-1.2-3{a} libedata-book-1.2-26{a}
>   libedata-cal-2.0-1{a} libphonenumber8{a} libprotobuf23{a}
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   libgweather-3-15{u}
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>   evolution-data-server libcamel-1.2-62 libebackend-1.2-10 libebook-1.2-19
>   libebook-contacts-1.2-2 libecal-1.2-19 libedata-book-1.2-25{b}
>   libedata-cal-1.2-29{b} libedataserver-1.2-23 libedataserverui-1.2-2
> 10 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 4,070 kB of archives. After unpacking 5,918 kB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  libedata-book-1.2-25 : Depends: libebackend-1.2-10 (= 3.30.5-1.1~bpo10+1)
> but 3.38.3-1 is to be installed
>  libedata-cal-1.2-29 : Depends: libebackend-1.2-10 (= 3.30.5-1.1~bpo10+1)
> but 3.38.3-1 is to be installed
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
>   Keep the following packages at their current version:
> 1)  evolution-data-server [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 2)  libcamel-1.2-62 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 3)  libebackend-1.2-10 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 4)  libebook-1.2-19 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 5)  libebook-1.2-20 [Not Installed]
> 6)  libebook-contacts-1.2-2 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 7)  libecal-1.2-19 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 8)  libedata-book-1.2-25 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 9)  libedata-book-1.2-26 [Not Installed]
> 10) libedata-cal-1.2-29 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 11) libedata-cal-2.0-1 [Not Installed]
> 12) libedataserver-1.2-23 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 13) libedataserverui-1.2-2 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
> 14) libgweather-3-15 [3.28.2-2 (now)]
> 

Hi Lina

Try running aptitude update - to pull the updated list of packages - then
aptitude full-upgrade - you shouldn't see those sorts of inconsistencies.

Bullseye - Debian 11 - OK.

Temperature issue - only thinking that if it was something that only
happens after a long time, it might be because a componetn inside your
screen warms up / misbehaves.

Does anything else happen just before it all locks up?

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater
> 
> 
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] Y
> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
> 
> Distributor ID: Debian
> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
> Release: 11
> Codename: bullseye
> 
> How do I know it is a temperature issue?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:22 PM Andrew M.A. Cater 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 02:42:11PM +0200, lina wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > After using the computer for a long while, my screen will blink.
> > >
> > > It has been months since the last time I upgraded the system.
> > >
> > > I don't know how to start checking, every time I have to reboot the
> > > computer,
> > >
> > > would be great to get your advice,
> > >
> > > thanks,
> >
> > First things first: update your computer. Security fixes and fixes for
> > other problems come out all the time.
> >
> > What Debian version are you running?
> >
> > On what sort of computer?
> >
> > Do you have screensavers or similar kicking in?
> >
> > is there a temperature issue?
> >
> > Are there logs?
> >
> > A little more information would be helpful.
> >
> > All the very best, as ever,
> >
> > Andy Cater
> >
> >

Re: computer screen blink

[lina]

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Tctl: +62.6°C
Tdie: +62.6°C
Tccd1:+45.2°C
Tccd2:+62.8°C
Tccd3:+60.8°C
Tccd4:+45.8°C
Tccd5:+43.8°C
Tccd6:+45.2°C
Tccd7:+43.5°C
Tccd8:+43.5°C

nvme-pci-4800
Adapter: PCI adapter
Composite:+34.9°C  (low  =  -0.1°C, high = +89.8°C)
   (crit = +94.8°C)

nouveau-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
GPU core:912.00 mV (min =  +0.80 V, max =  +1.19 V)
temp1:+34.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst =  +3.0°C)
   (crit = +105.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)
   (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:22 PM Andrew M.A. Cater 
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 02:42:11PM +0200, lina wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After using the computer for a long while, my screen will blink.
> >
> > It has been months since the last time I upgraded the system.
> >
> > I don't know how to start checking, every time I have to reboot the
> > computer,
> >
> > would be great to get your advice,
> >
> > thanks,
>
> First things first: update your computer. Security fixes and fixes for
> other problems come out all the time.
>
> What Debian version are you running?
>
> On what sort of computer?
>
> Do you have screensavers or similar kicking in?
>
> is there a temperature issue?
>
> Are there logs?
>
> A little more information would be helpful.
>
> All the very best, as ever,
>
> Andy Cater
>
>

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 21 oct 21, 02:12:25, piorunz wrote:
> 
> Lastly, you should use it in RAID1 or similar mode, to ensure there is
> always backup of data this drive keeps.

RAID is meant only for uptime, backup is something else, see: 
http://taobackup.com/.

> You can try Btrfs raid1 or mdadm raid1.

Mostly agreed with btrfs[1] (though ZFS is probably better, if you are 
fine with out-of-tree kernel modules[2]).

On the other hand mdadm can't detect silent corruption. In case a flaky 
drive (like the one discussed here) returns corrupted data claiming it 
is good mdadm RAID can't detect this, and in case it detects it, it has 
no way to determine which data is good.

Worst case it might even overwrite the good data with the bad one 
(because the bad data appears to be newer).

> Whatever you choose, try not to use this drive without any
> backup, as you are not sure yet if damage are not progressing.

Yep.

[1] 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/examining-btrfs-linuxs-perpetually-half-finished-filesystem/
[2] DKMS makes this mostly painless

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: computer screen blink

[lina]

# aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libebook-1.2-20{a} libebook-contacts-1.2-3{a} libedata-book-1.2-26{a}
  libedata-cal-2.0-1{a} libphonenumber8{a} libprotobuf23{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libgweather-3-15{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  evolution-data-server libcamel-1.2-62 libebackend-1.2-10 libebook-1.2-19
  libebook-contacts-1.2-2 libecal-1.2-19 libedata-book-1.2-25{b}
  libedata-cal-1.2-29{b} libedataserver-1.2-23 libedataserverui-1.2-2
10 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,070 kB of archives. After unpacking 5,918 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libedata-book-1.2-25 : Depends: libebackend-1.2-10 (= 3.30.5-1.1~bpo10+1)
but 3.38.3-1 is to be installed
 libedata-cal-1.2-29 : Depends: libebackend-1.2-10 (= 3.30.5-1.1~bpo10+1)
but 3.38.3-1 is to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

  Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)  evolution-data-server [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
2)  libcamel-1.2-62 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
3)  libebackend-1.2-10 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
4)  libebook-1.2-19 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
5)  libebook-1.2-20 [Not Installed]
6)  libebook-contacts-1.2-2 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
7)  libecal-1.2-19 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
8)  libedata-book-1.2-25 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
9)  libedata-book-1.2-26 [Not Installed]
10) libedata-cal-1.2-29 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
11) libedata-cal-2.0-1 [Not Installed]
12) libedataserver-1.2-23 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
13) libedataserverui-1.2-2 [3.30.5-1+deb10u1 (now)]
14) libgweather-3-15 [3.28.2-2 (now)]



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Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Release: 11
Codename: bullseye

How do I know it is a temperature issue?



On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:22 PM Andrew M.A. Cater 
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 02:42:11PM +0200, lina wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After using the computer for a long while, my screen will blink.
> >
> > It has been months since the last time I upgraded the system.
> >
> > I don't know how to start checking, every time I have to reboot the
> > computer,
> >
> > would be great to get your advice,
> >
> > thanks,
>
> First things first: update your computer. Security fixes and fixes for
> other problems come out all the time.
>
> What Debian version are you running?
>
> On what sort of computer?
>
> Do you have screensavers or similar kicking in?
>
> is there a temperature issue?
>
> Are there logs?
>
> A little more information would be helpful.
>
> All the very best, as ever,
>
> Andy Cater
>
>