Re: Grub bug on Debian 11
On Tue 14 Mar 2023 at 23:16:29 (+0100), Mario Marietto wrote: > No problem. But without offence,what you are suggesting to me is not to > make something to understand what's the real problem and why it's > happening,but you are suggesting to change something in my configuration to > skip the generation of the error. Do you confirm that you are following > this approach ? That's certainly what I would do. There are four workarounds listed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/1842320/comments/125 three of which seem simple: MODULES=dep, COMPRESS=, and GRUB_GFXMODE. Have you tried any of these? Do they fix things? > I would like to be guided to fix the problem that I have > because this is how I can learn something. I can't learn if I reinstall the > OS using a different debian version,is this correct ? Well, you don't say what it is you want to learn. If it's about Grub, the fix is already in, AIUI, and can be read about at: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/commit/?id=012fe7f0550899a2f1cf2fcf48f29ecf4820f880 Applying the patch to the source and recompiling for your version of the OS would seem to be a complete waste of effort, unless you've exhausted the three workarounds. > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 09:23:32PM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote: > > > > > > debian-live-11.5.0-amd64-xfce.iso. Is there a way to upgrade this to the > > > version that you have suggested ? I prefer to learn how to upgrade it > > than > > > to make a fresh installation. I would like to learn how to add > > "separately" > > > what's missing on the 11.5 and that,instead,it is on the version that you > > > suggested,the firmware,if I have understood it correctly. I have no idea whether there's any intention to fix Grub in bullseye at this late stage. As for upgrading your installed system, I assume that you can upgrade it to 11.6 in the usual manner. If any firmware has changed between 11.5 and 11.6, it'll be upgraded in just the same way. (For the packages I've looked into, upgrades usually just add more blobs, rather than changing any that are already present.) Cheers, David.
Re: Debian 11 upgrade to Debian 12
On Fri 03 Mar 2023 at 10:57:43 (-0500), Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 10:57 PM songbird wrote: > > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > > > > I just updated my media center PC from Debian Bullseye to Debian Bookworm. > > > The upgrade went alright. I initially had to download almost 2GB of 1640 > > > packages. Around 600 failed to upgrade and I had to manually install them > > > in small chunks to fix the dependencies. Other than that the upgrade went > > > relatively smoothly and I am liking the new color scheme and wallpapers. > > > > > > Anyone else have any good or bad experiences upgrading to bookworm. > > > > considering it's not released yet and has 331 RC bugs still to > > be dealt with (or ignored) that's a bit of a jumping the start > > line signal. > > > > helping to find bugs is good though too. :) > > I have been running Bullseye on my notebook for almost a year with very few > problems. My sound hardware and my WiFi does not work on debian 11. My > notebook is my primary work machine and it has been working well. I look at > testing as a rolling release. My media center Mini PC is all Intel and > everything on it just works. I wanted to try out KDE Big Screen which is > not available in Debian 11 so I had to upgrade to Debian 12. Big Screen > works ok on Wayland. I think I am missing some application packages though. > The Sound and WiFi buttons just launch a blue screen that never actually > loads. The shutdown button works fine. All in all I like it. I started > removing unneeded software to make it more streamlined. All I really need > is Dolphin, VLC and Elisa. Watch videos and listen to music. I just tried upgrading 11→12 on a laptop of mine. The only "snag", which was no surprise, was being left with a grub.cfg that only boots the one, upgraded system. That was quickly rectified by grub-mkconfig after uncommenting GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false in /etc/default/grub. (Thanks for putting that commented line into the file.) Under bullseye, there were 2015 packages, including libreoffice and texlive. I run fvwm (now called fvwm2, apparently) with no DE/DM. It was "pure" Debian except that xtoolwait (from squeeze) was and still is installed. Running buster, I copied my bullseye root filesystem to a spare partition, and adjusted the LABELs in the new copy's fstab. I booted it up and edited the sources list to bookworm, including adding the new non-free-firmware. I ran apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get --purge autoremove, apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get --purge autoremove again, answering no to keep my configuration files, yes to ignore any bug reports, and yes to restarting services (including any that might have disconnected a remote session). It was running on wifi, but I was at the console. Statistics for the four steps: 627 upgraded and 972 not upgraded; 75 to remove and 968 not upgraded; 967 upgraded, 245 newly installed and 13 to remove; and 79 to remove. Every thing completed smoothly, with no dependency problems at all. I haven't used it in anger as I don't want to disturb my dotfiles etc, but I checked that sound played perfectly with timidity. Obviously I've got a number of changes to read up on, with some new packages to look over. Cheers, David.
Re: Problem installing LocalWP
On Thu, Mar 16 2023 at 04:28:15 PM, "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > I am running uptodate Bullseye and have been running the-Debian version of > LocalWP > > I was uninstalling an update to v-6.7.0 when the installer threw an error(s) > wile installing my domain: > Screenshot > > I have no idea how to fix this and would greatly appreciate help. > My crystal ball says you need the libcap2-bin package installed. -- regards, kushal
Re: Re: Vuelvo a Debian!
> 2. El panel no me gusta nada, se me oculta, me gusta tener los > favoritos a mano. ¿Hay algún otro panel que pueda instalar? Click derecho en el panel, Preferencias de panel, ocultar automáticamente panel: nunca. Y no se te vuelve a ocultar. -- La Razón en su sentido absoluto no es algo que esté en el cielo esperando a ser descubierto, sino que está mezclada con la sinrazón, con lo irrelevante y lo cotidiano.
Re: auto restarting in crontab
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 08:04:24AM +0800, p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > Sometimes I was using the older ruby version (1.x), but sometimes I am using > the latest ruby (3.x). For example, different streaming libraries for ruby > require different versions. > > For instance, I developed a ruby client for Kafka streaming, and deployed it > in crontab, and this script must use ruby 3.x version. > > 0 * * * * ruby kafka-consumer.rb How is cron going to know which ruby to use? Cron uses a very minimalist PATH. From crontab(5): Several environment variables are set up automatically by the cron(8) daemon. SHELL is set to /bin/sh, and LOGNAME and HOME are set from the /etc/passwd line of the crontab's owner.PATH is set to "/usr/bin:/bin". HOME, SHELL, and PATH may be overridden by settings in the crontab; LOGNAME is the user that the job is running from, and may not be changed. Cron is going to look for /usr/bin/ruby or /bin/ruby and that's it, unless there's more to this crontab that you haven't shown us. If you need your crontab to use a specific version of ruby, on a system with multiple versions installed, you need to use the full path to one of them, or set the PATH variable.
Re: auto restarting in crontab
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: But it sounds like what...@ymail.ne.jp is doing isn't best practice either, although I don't fully understand what they mean by "I often change default ruby in interactive shell". If they mean 'global' then I suspect they should be using 'local' instead. Or just possibly 'shell'. I installed ruby only in my personal account, not the global. Sometimes I was using the older ruby version (1.x), but sometimes I am using the latest ruby (3.x). For example, different streaming libraries for ruby require different versions. For instance, I developed a ruby client for Kafka streaming, and deployed it in crontab, and this script must use ruby 3.x version. 0 * * * * ruby kafka-consumer.rb But one day I changed the default version in my personal path to ruby 1.x via rbenv, the crontab above should not work. This is a risk, is it? regards Yong
Re: auto restarting in crontab
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 7:03 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > > > > For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby installed > > > > in the system by rbenv. > > > > > > > > Since I often change default ruby in interactive shell, this may > > > > break the ruby for sysadmin job in crontab. What’s the solution for > > > > this? > > > > > > Everywhere it matters, set an explicit PATH at the beginning. > > > > > > There is no other solution. > > > > Err, I know nothing about the subject but that doesn't seem to > > correspond with what it says in the readme at > > https://github.com/rbenv/rbenv > > rbenv is a fancy way of setting the PATH. It changes out setting > the PATH directly for requiring you to set up a .ruby-version > file for every project. If you commit to it, it might be better > for you. If you don't, it's harder to debug what's going wrong. > > In general, development environments might want multiple Ruby > versions but production should only have one. If the production > version isn't the one that Debian is currently shipping, the > Debian-shipped version shouldn't be installed at all. Likely this. Debian removed update-alternatives for Ruby; see [1]. And from [1] under "Installing Ruby versions not packaged in Debian": While ruby-build is a great tool to build Ruby versions that are not available via APT, you should still use the Debian-packaged versions of Ruby whenever possible since they are tested and supported by the Debian community. [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Ruby Jeff
Re: auto restarting in crontab
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > > > For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby installed > > > in the system by rbenv. > > > > > > Since I often change default ruby in interactive shell, this may > > > break the ruby for sysadmin job in crontab. What’s the solution for > > > this? > > > > Everywhere it matters, set an explicit PATH at the beginning. > > > > There is no other solution. > > Err, I know nothing about the subject but that doesn't seem to > correspond with what it says in the readme at > https://github.com/rbenv/rbenv rbenv is a fancy way of setting the PATH. It changes out setting the PATH directly for requiring you to set up a .ruby-version file for every project. If you commit to it, it might be better for you. If you don't, it's harder to debug what's going wrong. In general, development environments might want multiple Ruby versions but production should only have one. If the production version isn't the one that Debian is currently shipping, the Debian-shipped version shouldn't be installed at all. -dsr-
Re: auto restarting in crontab
Dan Ritter wrote: > p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > > For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby installed > > in the system by rbenv. > > > > Since I often change default ruby in interactive shell, this may > > break the ruby for sysadmin job in crontab. What’s the solution for > > this? > > Everywhere it matters, set an explicit PATH at the beginning. > > There is no other solution. Err, I know nothing about the subject but that doesn't seem to correspond with what it says in the readme at https://github.com/rbenv/rbenv But it sounds like what p...@ymail.ne.jp is doing isn't best practice either, although I don't fully understand what they mean by "I often change default ruby in interactive shell". If they mean 'global' then I suspect they should be using 'local' instead. Or just possibly 'shell'. > -dsr-
Re: Problem installing LocalWP
I can only recommend contacting LocalWP for assistance. It is their product and not supported by Debian. On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 4:29 PM Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running uptodate Bullseye and have been running the-Debian version of > LocalWP > > I was uninstalling an update to v-6.7.0 when the installer threw an > error(s) wile installing my domain:[image: Screenshot] > > I have no idea how to fix this and would greatly appreciate help. > > Thanks in advance > > > -- > Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.https://insilicochemistry.net > (614)312-7528 (c) > Skype: smolnar1 > > >
Problem installing LocalWP
I am running uptodate Bullseye and have been running the-Debian version of LocalWP I was uninstalling an update to v-6.7.0 when the installer threw an error(s) wile installing my domain:Screenshot I have no idea how to fix this and would greatly appreciate help. Thanks in advance -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. https://insilicochemistry.net (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: Grub bug on Debian 11
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 Mario Marietto wrote: No problem. But without offence,what you are suggesting to me is not to make something to understand what's the real problem and why it's happening, I believe that the locution above --"make something to understand"-- paraphrases "diagnose". but you are suggesting to change something in my configuration to skip the generation of the error. Problems are learning opportunities. And so --as you have noticed-- the path to knowledge often diverges from the path of problem-avoidance. And if people assume you seek the latter path (problem-avoidance), when you instead pursue knowledge you will appear to be "looking for trouble". Do you confirm that you are following this approach ? I would like to be guided to fix the problem that I have because this is how I can learn something. I can't learn if I reinstall the OS using a different debian version,is this correct ? Mario, something tells me that nothing will prevent you from learning whatever you like. -- Ce qui est important est rarement urgent et ce qui est urgent est rarement important -- Dwight David Eisenhower
Re: Grub bug on Debian 11
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 Mario Marietto wrote in reply to Andrew Cater: --> *Which* Debian .iso did you install with ? debian-live-11.5.0-amd64-xfce.iso. Is there a way to upgrade this to the version that you have suggested ? I prefer to learn how to upgrade it than to make a fresh installation. I would like to learn how to add "separately" what's missing on the 11.5 and that,instead,it is on the version that you suggested,the firmware,if I have understood it correctly. Below I describe what I personally would do, if I had the goals I understand you to have. I claim no expertise. I believe there are two possible problems you are experiencing. One possible problem, as Andrew mentions elsewhere in this thread, is that the installer on the live iso (which you have used) is not the same as the better-tested installer used on the standard, non-live debian install media. And so if your primary goal here is this: learning how to install debian from standard install media on your machine, rather than the special case of this: debugging the installer used by the live iso in particular then I suggest using a non-live installer image. In the general case, the current images of that sort for various architectures can be found here https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/ In your particular case, for your educational project --to install 11.5 and manually supply non-free firmware from separate source on your amd64 machine-- I would instead get the the 11.5 dvd image you can find here https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/11.5.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ and the non-free firmware files from here https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/11.5.0/ Good luck with your project. -- Ce qui est important est rarement urgent et ce qui est urgent est rarement important -- Dwight David Eisenhower
Re: apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
Right, I made the mistake of keying in numbers. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Thu, 16 Mar 2023, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > root@taf:~# tasksel > > Software selection > > -- > > > > You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined > > collections of software. > > > > 1. Debian desktop environment 3. ... Xfce 5. ... KDE Plasma > > 7. ... MATE 9. ... LXQt 11. SSH server > > 2. ... GNOME 4. ... GNOME Flashback 6. ... Cinnamon > > 8. ... LXDE 10. web server 12. laptop > > > > (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) > > > > Choose software to install: 1 9 > > > > > > Installing packages > > --- > > > > ..100% > > > > > > > > Tasksel works for a sighted user - can you help the list with how > your list was generated? > > Sighted users see [ ] type boxes - toggling space bar checks/unchecks > the box by putting a * in it - I think that's in a busybox style screen > > All best, as ever > > Andy Cater > > > > > Jude > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > >
Re: auto restarting in crontab
I tried installing task-lxqt-desktop using apt and that didn't go well at all. Since I use a screen reader I ended up installing bullseye mate with the installation disc then upgrading to bookworm. That worked. So far as I can tell, a11y work was not done on lxqt to bring up orca if speakup got used during an install. I was curious as to differences between mate and lxqt which is why I tried the install. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Thu, 16 Mar 2023, Dan Ritter wrote: > p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > > For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby installed in the > > system by rbenv. > > > > Since I often change default ruby in interactive shell, this may break the > > ruby for sysadmin job in crontab. What?s the solution for this? > > > Everywhere it matters, set an explicit PATH at the beginning. > > There is no other solution. > > -dsr- > >
Re: apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 05:29:11PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Tasksel works for a sighted user - can you help the list with how > your list was generated? > > Sighted users see [ ] type boxes - toggling space bar checks/unchecks > the box by putting a * in it - I think that's in a busybox style screen The version of tasksel in bullseye is using whiptail. unicorn:~$ ps -ft pts/3 UID PIDPPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD greg1011 998 0 Jan24 pts/300:00:00 bash greg 41620991011 3 13:44 pts/300:00:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/tasks greg 4162202 4162099 0 13:44 pts/300:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/ greg 4162210 4162202 0 13:44 pts/300:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/tasksel/tas greg 4162212 4162202 0 13:44 pts/300:00:00 whiptail --backtitle Package I would guess the bookworm also does, but haven't confirmed that. As you say, the interface is meant to be used interactively, with the user moving the cursor up and down with Arrow keys, and toggling selection boxes with Space Bar. I have no idea how a vision-impaired user would handle this, but I'm intrigued to learn.
Re: auto restarting in crontab
p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby installed in the > system by rbenv. > > Since I often change default ruby in interactive shell, this may break the > ruby for sysadmin job in crontab. What’s the solution for this? Everywhere it matters, set an explicit PATH at the beginning. There is no other solution. -dsr-
Re: apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > root@taf:~# tasksel > Software selection > -- > > You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined > collections of software. > > 1. Debian desktop environment 3. ... Xfce 5. ... KDE Plasma > 7. ... MATE 9. ... LXQt 11. SSH server > 2. ... GNOME 4. ... GNOME Flashback 6. ... Cinnamon > 8. ... LXDE 10. web server 12. laptop > > (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) > > Choose software to install: 1 9 > > > Installing packages > --- > > ..100% > > > Tasksel works for a sighted user - can you help the list with how your list was generated? Sighted users see [ ] type boxes - toggling space bar checks/unchecks the box by putting a * in it - I think that's in a busybox style screen All best, as ever Andy Cater > > Jude > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . >
Re: Re: auto restarting in crontab
For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby installed in the system by rbenv. Since I often change default ruby in interactive shell, this may break the ruby for sysadmin job in crontab. What’s the solution for this?
Re: Niet alle packages upgraden
Cecil Westerhof writes: > Normaal gesproken is het voor mij geen probleem om bij een > apt upgrade > > alles te doen, maar Firefox gooit al een poos roet in het eten. > Vroeger kreeg je een melding (met needrestart) dat Firefox eigenlijk > opnieuw moest worden opgestart, maar je kon gewoon de lopende oude > versie blijven gebruiken en Firefox restarten waaneer je dat zelf > uitkwam. > Dat is al een poos niet meer zo. Je krijgt geen melding meer, echter > op het moment dat je dan terug gaat naar Firefox krijg je een melding > dat je Firefox opnieuw moet opstarten en dat moet je ook echt, want > Firefox werkt niet meer. > Is er een manier om alle upgrades behalve Firefox uit te voeren? En > dan later wanneer het geen roet in het eten gooit Firefox alsnog te > upgraden? Ik had beter moeten kijken. :'-( Het kan gewoon met: apt-mark hold firefox-esr -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof
Niet alle packages upgraden
Normaal gesproken is het voor mij geen probleem om bij een apt upgrade alles te doen, maar Firefox gooit al een poos roet in het eten. Vroeger kreeg je een melding (met needrestart) dat Firefox eigenlijk opnieuw moest worden opgestart, maar je kon gewoon de lopende oude versie blijven gebruiken en Firefox restarten waaneer je dat zelf uitkwam. Dat is al een poos niet meer zo. Je krijgt geen melding meer, echter op het moment dat je dan terug gaat naar Firefox krijg je een melding dat je Firefox opnieuw moet opstarten en dat moet je ook echt, want Firefox werkt niet meer. Is er een manier om alle upgrades behalve Firefox uit te voeren? En dan later wanneer het geen roet in het eten gooit Firefox alsnog te upgraden? -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof
apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
root@taf:~# tasksel Software selection -- You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined collections of software. 1. Debian desktop environment 3. ... Xfce 5. ... KDE Plasma 7. ... MATE 9. ... LXQt 11. SSH server 2. ... GNOME 4. ... GNOME Flashback 6. ... Cinnamon 8. ... LXDE 10. web server 12. laptop (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) Choose software to install: 1 9 Installing packages --- ..100% Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) .
Festival Latino-americano de Instalação de Software Livre em BH - 15 de abril
Olá, Estão abertas as inscrições para o FLISoL 2023 – Festival Latino-americano de Instalação de Software Livre [1], que acontecerá no dia 15 de abril (sábado) das 9h às 14h, de forma presencial e gratuita, nas salas salas 2077 e 2013 do prédio do ICEx (Instituto de Ciências Exatas) [2], Campus Pampulha da UFMG. [1] http://bh.flisol.org.br [2] https://www.icex.ufmg.br O FLISoL é um evento totalmente gratuito que acontece desde 2005. Ele tem como objetivo promover o uso de Software Livre e a integração de comunidades de usuários em todos os países da América Latina. Todo ano são realizados, simultaneamente, eventos em cidades diferentes em que serão feitas instalações de maneira gratuita e totalmente legal de Software Livre nos computadores das pessoas interessadas. O evento, conhecido como install fest, consiste em um grande encontro de pessoas com conhecimento em Software Livre e outras que tem interesse em conhecer mais sobre o assunto. Os(As) visitantes poderão levar seus computadores/notebooks para que os(as) voluntários(as) ajudem a instalar gratuitamente Software Livre. Em paralelo, são promovidas palestras e oficinas sobre Software Livre. Entre os softwares que são instalados, estão distribuições de GNU/Linux como Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Arch, assim como programas livres, inclusive para Microsoft Windows e MacOS, como LibreOffice, Gimp, Inkscape, Firefox, Blender e jogos. Em Belo Horizonte, a organização para o FLISoL 2023 está sendo realizada pelas Comunidades Debian-MG [3] e Debian Brasil [4], pelo Departamento de Ciência da Computação (DCC) [5] da UFMG, pelo DACompSI, e por pessoas da comunidade de Software Livre de Belo Horizonte e região. [3] https://debian-minas-gerais.gitlab.io/site [4] https://debianbrasil.org.br [5] https://dcc.ufmg.br Até o dia 1 de abril a organização do FLISoL em Belo Horizonte estará recebendo propostas de palestras. Se você gostaria de contribuir com o evento falando sobre um tema relacionado a Software Livre, Código Aberto, Linux, linguagens de programação, etc, não deixe de enviar a sua proposta. Para mais informações sobre como se inscrever e/ou enviar uma proposta de palestras acesse: http://bh.flisol.org.br Abraços, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Belo Horizonte - Brasil Debian Developer Site: http://phls.com.br GPG ID: 0443C450 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: (deb-cat) Utilitzar un modem GSM
El 6/2/23 a les 21:27, Adrià ha escrit: Am 06/02/2023 um 14:08 schrieb Narcis Garcia: > He arribat fins al punt que realitza la connexió de xarxa (indica > cobertura, autoassigna IP pròpia, porta d'enllaç i DNS), però > aconsegueixo fer CAP comunicació via TCP, ICMP o DNS. > El «ping» es queda esperant sense resultat per a qualsevol adreça > no-local que li demani (incloent a porta d'enllaç). > > Algú sap com esbrinar on és ara el problema? Jo miraria amb un analitzador de tràfic tipus Wireshark què està passant. Això per esbrinar tècnicament què passa. A nivell pràctic, però, preguntaria a l'operadora si permeten usar la línia com a mòdem, perquè si es pot implementar qualsevol mesura que discrimini l'ús que es fa d'un servei, ho faran si veuen que pot reportar-los qualsevol benefici. I de vegades és millor sortir de dubtes que trencar-se les banyes amb un problema (tot i que ho puguem trobar entretingut, divertit i satisfactori quan el solucionem). Gràcies Adrià; tenia aquest fil en espera de comprovar en el possible el tema de l'operador telefònic. No n'he tret l'aigua del tot clara, ja que a la central (per telèfon) em deien que les targetes SIM que utilitzo no són per a modem sinó per a terminals amb sistema operatiu xungo (Android, iOS) i em derivaven a una botiga de la cadena. I a la botiga em diuen que l'operador no diferencia entre targetes SIM per aquest tema. I a la botiga em van demostrar que la meva targeta SIM funciona perfectament amb un router meu que jo portava. A la botiga no vaig posar a prova un llapis-modem USB ni el modem integrat lt4112 perquè ja sé que ens embolicaríem amb què utilitzo programari estrany, i què estic carregant el controlador a mà. Ara també he provat amb Ubuntu 22.04 (Live) i Ubuntu 22.10 (Live) amb el mateix resultat, negatiu. Finalment, i per a rematar les comprovacions, he instal·lat MS-Windows 10. Doncs resulta que funciona perfectament: Detecta el dispositiu intern (HP lt4112 Gobi 4G) i amb dir-li que connecti a la xarxa tan sols demana el PIN i ja està. Es navega perfectament amb EDGE/2G i LTE/4G. No tinc ni idea de què fer amb Wireshark per a comprovar no sé el què. A GNU/Linux el dispositiu es configura (IP, porta, DNS), però no aconsegueixo arribar a cap servei extern, ni tan sols respon ping cap a la porta d'enllaç ni els servidors DNS, ni aquests resolen adreces. Com a molt la pròpia IP pública respon a ping, però qualsevol IP d'Internet ja no. -- Narcis Garcia __ I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
Re: auto restarting in crontab
Greg Wooledge (12023-03-16): > So they installed > parallel toolsets (commands including ps, echo, and so on) in two > different directories. Four: there is also /usr/xpg4/bin and /usr/xpg6/bin. Regards, -- Nicolas George
Re: auto restarting in crontab
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 01:57:26PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > I think you are right. The only remaining argument for specifying the > complete path I have read about is as below. > There might be the situation with different binaries but similar > names. For example /usr/bin/nc is different to /bin/nc. > But such a system should be a nightmare and I doubt if you can find > such an installation in the wild. This reminds me of Solaris. As a successor to the BSD-ish SunOS, Solaris (which is a System V-ish operating system) wanted to retain some compatibility with its company's former product. So they installed parallel toolsets (commands including ps, echo, and so on) in two different directories. The SysV-ish command set, which is the preferred one going forward, is in /usr/bin. The BSD-ish command set, the legacy one, is in /usr/ucb. Users who want a BSD-ish experience (or scripts relying on that toolset) are encouraged to make sure /usr/ucb appears before /usr/bin in their PATH variables. Users who want the new SysV-ish experience should do the opposite, or not include /usr/ucb at all.
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Re: auto restarting in crontab
Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:27:22AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:24:10PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > The environments of login shells and crontab can be different. This > > includes the path where to seek executables. Therefore it is good > > practice not to write just the name of the executable as nc but the > > name with the path as /usr/bin/nc. Here I took nc as an example. > > It's better to set the PATH variable to whatever you need it to be. > Then you don't have to hard-code the execution path of every single > command in the script. (Which means your script breaks when you move > it to a system where nc is in /bin instead of /usr/bin, and so on.) > I think you are right. The only remaining argument for specifying the complete path I have read about is as below. There might be the situation with different binaries but similar names. For example /usr/bin/nc is different to /bin/nc. But such a system should be a nightmare and I doubt if you can find such an installation in the wild. I have a few scripts which should run at Linux and FreeBSD. In the past I have used uname to distinguish the platforms. This works but it is bulky and ugly. Things will be fine if I concat the PATH required for both systems and follow your advise. Thank you and kind regards, Christoph -- Ist die Katze gesund schmeckt sie dem Hund.
Re: auto restarting in crontab
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:24:10PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > The environments of login shells and crontab can be different. This > includes the path where to seek executables. Therefore it is good > practice not to write just the name of the executable as nc but the > name with the path as /usr/bin/nc. Here I took nc as an example. It's better to set the PATH variable to whatever you need it to be. Then you don't have to hard-code the execution path of every single command in the script. (Which means your script breaks when you move it to a system where nc is in /bin instead of /usr/bin, and so on.)
Re: auto restarting in crontab
Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 08:55:54AM +0800 schrieb cor...@free.fr: > Greetings, > > My script for monitoring Node.js app as follows. I put it in crontab for > auto-check and restart if failure. > > #!/bin/bash > > # scan the port > nc -z 127.0.0.1 3000 > > if [ $? -eq 0 ];then > exit > else > killall node > sleep 1 > nohup serve -s /home/myUsername/workspace/xxx-frontend/build & > fi > > > I can run the script by manual, but in crontab it won't work. that means, > when node.js dies, it will not get restarted by this script automatically. > The environments of login shells and crontab can be different. This includes the path where to seek executables. Therefore it is good practice not to write just the name of the executable as nc but the name with the path as /usr/bin/nc. Here I took nc as an example. Kind regards, Christoph -- Ist die Katze gesund schmeckt sie dem Hund.
Re: auto restarting in crontab
Greg Wooledge (12023-03-16): > That assumes you want to detach the process from its session in the > first place. It's NOT what you should do when running a managed > service, though. > > With a managed service, you don't want ANY of the old legacy "I want > to run a daemon from an interactive shell and have it automatically > separate itself from the interactive session" rubbish. Indeed. But in the rare cases you want that rubbish, DO NOT USE nuhup. Regards, -- Nicolas George
Re: auto restarting in crontab
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 08:53:55AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > cor...@free.fr (12023-03-16): > > nohup serve -s /home/myUsername/workspace/xxx-frontend/build & > > What Greg said. Plus: > > Never use nohup. nohup should never have been invented, it is based on a > complete lack of understanding of how sessions and control terminal > work. > > Instead: > > - use setsid to detach the process from the session; > > - explicitly redirect the input and outputs where you want them. That assumes you want to detach the process from its session in the first place. It's NOT what you should do when running a managed service, though. With a managed service, you don't want ANY of the old legacy "I want to run a daemon from an interactive shell and have it automatically separate itself from the interactive session" rubbish. You DON'T want the daemon to fork a background child and abandon it. You DON'T want the daemon's output to be discarded, or automatically redirected to some file. The service manager needs the daemon to behave sensibly, at least in systemd's "simple" case. A single process, with output going to stdout and/or stderr. The manager will take care of grabbing the output and logging it.
Re: Something tweaked my Firefox appearance
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 02:49:28 -0400
"hobie of RMN" wrote:
Hello hobie,
>I guess I should be looking for a place to adjust settings of the window
>manager..?
That tends to adjust settings globally. If other windows haven't
changed in appearance, then everything else /might/ end up with fonts
smaller than you would like.
To affect Ff only, you may wish to investigate using userChrome.css;
This file will be in a directory called chrome, somewhere under the
~/.mozilla directory. There should be an example CSS file there you
can use as a template.
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Re: Something tweaked my Firefox appearance
hobie of RMN wrote: > Current stable Debian; Firefox 91.13.0esr; xfce4; xfwm4. > > Two days ago I restarted my GUI when I saw the disk swap file was growing > too large. On logging back in I found Firefox's appearance was different > and harder to work with. Menu bar and Bookmarks toolbar have larger fonts > than before, and Firefox's URL window now accommodates less of the text of > the URL. > > I guess I should be looking for a place to adjust settings of the window > manager..? Is that a file on disk or is there a menu choice for this? Try right clicking on your desktop, then selecting Settings, then Appearance, and changing the default font and size. -dsr-
Re: auto restarting in crontab
cor...@free.fr (12023-03-16): > nohup serve -s /home/myUsername/workspace/xxx-frontend/build & What Greg said. Plus: Never use nohup. nohup should never have been invented, it is based on a complete lack of understanding of how sessions and control terminal work. Instead: - use setsid to detach the process from the session; - explicitly redirect the input and outputs where you want them. Regards, -- Nicolas George
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 01:15:00PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:05:49PM +0100, Michael Lee wrote: > > Is there a way to fix this, or is a re-installation the only remedy? > > For all the things people like about btrfs, IME it's not as good at recovery > from adverse events [...] A last ditch (if something isn't in the backups) would be to try PhotoRec on the file system image. Backups are preferrable, of course. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Something tweaked my Firefox appearance
Current stable Debian; Firefox 91.13.0esr; xfce4; xfwm4. Two days ago I restarted my GUI when I saw the disk swap file was growing too large. On logging back in I found Firefox's appearance was different and harder to work with. Menu bar and Bookmarks toolbar have larger fonts than before, and Firefox's URL window now accommodates less of the text of the URL. I guess I should be looking for a place to adjust settings of the window manager..? Is that a file on disk or is there a menu choice for this? --hobie
Re: auto restarting in crontab
updated: Thanks for all your helps, especially @Greg and @Yong Now this systemd service has been enabled and just works. I put a file on /etc/systemd/system/xxx.service whose content as, [Unit] Description=xxx Front After=network.target [Service] Type=simple Restart=always RestartSec=5 User=corey Group=corey ExecStart=serve -s /home/corey/workspace/xxx-frontend/build [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target And run "systemctl enable xxx.service" then "systemctl start xxx.service", and it works perfectly. regards, Corey
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