Re: Re: Wireless can't connect after I restart X

Sorry, I should have clarified: the scripts execute correctly but wireless still does not connect. I'll try tinkering with the /etc/network/interfaces and see where that gets me. The problem is more irritating than intrusive and it violates that whole 'you should never have to restart Linux'*

Nautilus and/or ext4 killed three folders!

I'm not quite sure how to debug or report this one which is why I'm mentioning it here. I was moving to a new hard drive and copying /home/ files from my old hard drive to my new one. I opened Nautilus and was dragging and dropping folders to my new hard drive when I selected three such folders

Re: Nautilus and/or ext4 killed three folders!

Well, I owe everyone a big apology. After searching unsuccessfully with Nautilus, I took Arthur's suggestion and whipped out a terminal and figured out how to use find's options. It turns out that the folders had been dropped into one of the dot-folders (where, I guess, Nautilus doesn't poke

Why aren't there time stamps in Xorg.log?

Good morning! This is a question which nags at me whenever I try to figure out why something doesn't work in X. dmesg timestamps entries so when I'm going through trying to figure out why something crashed or didn't work like I naively expected it to, I can focus on the log entries around the

Re: Why aren't there time stamps in Xorg.log?

At least someone at Ubuntu filled a report for that exact purpose ;-) x.org logging doesn't put timestamp on the log lines https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source Camaleón Furthermore, it seems that they're trying to fix that in Ubuntu. Let's see if those patches will go

Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

, Borden Rhodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008150200.52677.j...@bordenrhodes.com

Screen rotation messes up brightness - whose fault?

Hullo all, I've freshly reinstalled Debian Squeeze with GNOME this time and, amongst other things, I've noticed a problems with my Intel 855 graphics (aside from the obvious lack of 3D acceleration). When I rotate the screen, the display dims to the lowest setting and there's no way to get it

Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

(Sorry for the late reply to a thread started way back) I'm pleased for all of the feedback and that I'm not the only person who's frustrated. I tried proposing to debian-policy that it be mandatory that all logs have timestamps http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2010/02/msg00035.html but my

Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

Thank you for the response. Indeed, you are correct in that my problem isn't specific to Linux kernel troubleshooting (although I could dedicate a website to things that don't work there) but with the software that runs on Debian in general. To clarify, the problem I have is when the computer

Re: Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

Much obliged for the insight. I think I understand now the point that Steve was trying to get at. If I understood correctly, Debian's role in package maintenance is the packaging; the actual coding (and related policies) are handled farther upstream. All the same, I still struggle to understand

Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

Well I'm pleased for the discussion and particularly grateful to Klistvud who says many of my ideas far more eloquently than I can. I want to digress briefly and remind everyone that for as controversial as you may think software standards are, accounting standards are far worse. The SEC, AICPA,

Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

Can I get a second on Teddy's opinion? I tend to believe that I just share the Linux experience, and if I can get something useful done whilst the computer is willing, so much the better. Is this the truth about open source software? Maybe I am in the wrong distribution and I'm wasting the

Is DRI supposed to work in xserver-xorg-video-intel?

I've spent about two hours in the man pages and on Google trying to figure this one out with no success. I can't get DRI, and therefore hardware acceleration, working. Relevant info: # dmesg | grep agp [0.737743] Linux agpgart interface v0.103 [0.737941] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel

Re: Is DRI supposed to work in xserver-xorg-video-intel?

Once again, Sven, I owe you my sanity. I've read that Debian was still looking into framebuffer issues with Intel, whether to keep UMS or migrate to KMS. Is that debate related to the DRI/shadow issue? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Why does Linux crash?

they can plug up the hole? I hate to think what a malicious program could do to a web server if Eclipse can do this to my computer. With thanks, Borden Rhodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Re: Why does Linux crash?

Thank you for your reply and your consolation that other people are equally miffed with Eclipse. My question, though, is about Linux control systems. Is one of the kernel's design goals to manage system resources to prevent a buggy program from crippling the system and forcing a hard restart?

Re: Re: Why does Linux crash?

Thank you for your reply, Axel; perfect answer. Now that I know that these features of Linux exist I can go hunt them down and figure out how to use them and stop this from happening again (like it did after I sent my original e-mail). With thanks again, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Re: Why does Linux crash?

Thank you, Boyd, that was just the sort of answer I was looking for. I tried using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to drop into a terminal but, again, it wasn't responsive. I'll commit your suggestions to memory for the next time the system locks up. You touched on the crux of my complaint: sure, I expect the

Wireless can't connect after I restart X

I'm not sure this is a bug or a problem with me, so I'm posting it here so I don't clutter up bug triaging with something which may not be an issue. Here's my problem. In spite of my earlier post ('Why does Linux crash?') I can every so often CTRL+ALT+F# my way into a shell to recover a

boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

Good morning, I ran apt dist-upgrade on Stretch (with a few Sid packages) which made the following changes: Start-Date: 2016-06-14 19:42:39 Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade Requested-By: me (1000) Install: libdw1:amd64 (0.163-5.1, automatic), linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64:amd64 (4.6.1-1,

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

and display all of the dependant units in a nice, pretty format to save me from having to do it myself (and making lots of mistakes in the process)? With thanks, On 16 June 2016 at 23:51, Mark Fletcher <mark2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 03:12, Borden Rhodes <j...@b

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

19:35:34 +0200 > From: Sven Joachim <svenj...@gmx.de> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch > Message-ID: <8760tapd7d@turtle.gmx.de> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On 2016-06-15 07:58 +, Borden Rhode

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

nding any better ideas, I think I'm going to redirect this conversation to bug 758808. > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:56:48 -0400 > From: Borden Rhodes <j...@bordenrhodes.com> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch &g

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

`systemctl show ` these devices but I can't disable them. Can someone tell me what they're there for, what created them and how I can, for debugging purposes, disable them from being called? On 22 July 2016 at 00:09, Borden Rhodes <j...@bordenrhodes.com> wrote: > During the 90 second wait befor

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

tent-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Wednesday 27 July 2016 22:19:22 Borden Rhodes wrote: >> If you can't load >> the photo (because it's converted into plain text), the problem is >&

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

, Borden Rhodes <j...@bordenrhodes.com> wrote: > Thank you for your message, Michael, and please forgive the delay in > responding. > > I tried booting with the 4.5 kernel after 4.6 failed to boot. It > seems, by then, that the damage had been done as I got identical > symptom

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2016 #694

To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly > Message-ID: <20160728095810.fc6d297c.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Borden Rhodes wrote: >> Lisi: is the

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

t;utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Friday 29 July 2016 00:51:42 Borden Rhodes wrote: >> Thank you, Siard. I'm grateful for help no matter who gives it! Here's >> the PNG of the offending toolbar in LibreOffice: >> https://s31.pos

LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

Good afternoon, list, I'm running an up-to-date Stretch operating system on a ca. 2010 Intel laptop chipset. I noticed last night that the toolbars and menus aren't rendering correctly. I dumped a PNG here: http://paste.debian.net/785668 (good for 3 days). If you can't load the photo (because

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

Thank you for your message, Michael, and please forgive the delay in responding. I tried booting with the 4.5 kernel after 4.6 failed to boot. It seems, by then, that the damage had been done as I got identical symptoms on both boots. I agree with you that the cryptsetup/LVM is to blame (although

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

I'm still stuck with this problem after wasting another 5 hours on it last night. I'm still getting the time out error message but, without any useful debugging information, don't know where to start troubleshooting. Further, it appears the systemd maintainers have given up responding to bug

[Solved(?)] Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

After 3 months of going Little Red Hen on this, I think I figured it out. My system had live-config & live-boot (with their dependencies, live-boot-initramfs-tools, user-setup, live-tools and live-config-systemd) installed. An aptitude purge command on these packages got my system booting normally

A full /var partition destroyed 3 hours of my life!

I tried booting up into Debian and got all sorts of systemd breakages apparently because my /var partition was full. That's fair, but the pain started when Debian frustrated any attempt to free up space. I'm wondering if this is a 'feature' that needs removing or if there might be a bug in the

RE: btrfs filesystem full problems (was Re: A full /var partition destroyed 3 hours of my life!)

> It sounds like btrfs specific behaviour. It would be interesting to know > what kernel version and btrfs version you were using, if only to confirm > my suspicion that even the versions in Debian are not suitable for use in > production. > > I'm going to guess that it was a series of 'btrfs

logrotate error (was A full /var partition destroyed 3 hours of my life!)

> [rsyslog maintainer speaking here] > >> One of the culprits in my full /var partition was a 3 gig syslog file >> which has only been getting bigger since January despite running >> logrotate -f. I try to run it this time but I'm told that it can't > > I'd be interested to find out, why

Re: A full /var partition destroyed 3 hours of my life!

> [rsyslog maintainer speaking here] > > Am 15.11.2016 um 06:00 schrieb Borden Rhodes: >> One of the culprits in my full /var partition was a 3 gig syslog file >> which has only been getting bigger since January despite running >> logrotate -f. I try to run it this time

Re: Re: current testing

The Intel package driver was already purged from my system. I tried reinstalling it to no use. Purged xwayland, too (which I don't use but nevertheless installed). No help. I've also checked dmesg, messages, Xorg.0.log & syslog and syslog and found nothing out of the ordinary in those logs. It

X start-up delay (was: current testing)

Thank you for the suggestion, Felix, although I'm not quite ready to levy my scorn and blame on KDE (yet). Since my last post, it turns out that the full KDE desktop DOES start, but it takes an excruciating amount of time (more on that in a second). systemd, systemd-analyze and journald report

Re: current testing

I'd advise against running testing if you want stability. I get a lot of breakages on my Stretch laptop with routine upgrades. When I look into them, a number of breakages seem due to transitions to newer library platforms where all the kinks haven't been worked out yet. Other packages simply have

Re: Re: current testing

Thank you for the references, Felix. Unfortunately, nothing you sent is applicable because SDDM doesn't even start in the first place. Computer goes unresponsive when it tries to start X and then I have to force shut down. I've been able to start - just - by booting into multi-user.target and

Re: current testing

Thank you, Hans. My laptop has an Intel chipset, so nvidia doesn't apply. I think the recommended driver for my chipset is the framebuffer or vesa device, but I may try reinstalling the Intel driver to see if that fixes it. On 13 December 2016 at 12:37, Hans wrote: > Note,

Kernels above 4.9 break encrypted disks

I'm on the Buster repo. For all kernels released after 4.9, I can't boot into my system, which has all encrypted partitions except for /boot. I think tihs is my problem, as I get the same symptoms: https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/issues/319 I decided to wait until the 4.12 kernel came

Re: Kernels above 4.9 break encrypted disks

Thank you for your response, Pascal, Thank you, also, for your very clear instructions. It's nice not having to guess the rest of the command I need to use. My kernel hacking abilities are elementary, at best. Here is the output from my system: $ modinfo 4.12.0-1-amd64 xts modinfo: ERROR: Module

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #889

Thank you again, Pascal, for your helpful reply. > Le 20/08/2017 à 01:08, Borden Rhodes a écrit : > > You forgot the -k option before the version. > Otherwise, you can directly probe the file : Right you are. Here is the corrected output: $ modinfo -k 4.12.0-1-amd64 xts filename

Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch

>> - Hello, >> Is this the Chevrolet users' support group? >> I just bought this new Chevy and I am having all kinds of problems I've >> never had before with a Chevy or any other car for that matter. >> - What problems are you having, because all other owners are happy. >> - Pretty much

Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch

Hey Tony, I had lots of problems with Stretch when it was in testing. A lot of packages (KDE, X drivers, and the kernel come immediately to mind) have manageable but irritating upstream regressions that didn't get patched or backported in time for the release. I was very surprised when they

Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch

Thank you for your response, Ben, > What response did you get to the bug reports you filed from the problems you > encountered? One example includes an X regression that caused it to wait upwards of 8 minutes searching for my laptop's touchscreen. The bug was caused by a typo where, instead of

Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch

>> > Do you find checking for possible rootkits is useless, or you are just >> > not happy how rkhunter performs that function? >> >> A well-documented case of rkhunter discovering a rootkit in the last >> ten years (the 1000s of false positives do not count) would go a long >> way to establishing

Re: How do I stop system hangs?

> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 05:11:34 -0400 > From: Gene Heskett > >> What kernel or other settings can I set to let me keep control of my >> computer during a runaway process? Basically, how do I tell Linux to >> keep just enough resources free so I can drop into a shell

How do I stop system hangs?

What kernel or other settings can I set to let me keep control of my computer during a runaway process? Basically, how do I tell Linux to keep just enough resources free so I can drop into a shell terminal and figure out what's going wrong? In context, this evening my computer hung for 30

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

> I.e. 12309 bug is back. It's obscure and presumably fixed (at least four > times fixed) bug that happens with relatively slow filesystem (be it > SSD/HDD/NFS or whatever) and a large amount of free RAM. I first > encountered the thing back in 2.6.18 days, where it was presumably > implemented

The Internet locks up Buster

This is a follow-up to a question I posted here on 27 May for which I got no response. In it, I complained that my "new" laptop running Buster completely freezes when browsing certain Javascript-heavy websites (like Google Docs, Facebook and YouTube) on Firefox 52. Since that e-mail, I installed

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 01:32:27 +0300 > The first questions regarding Out Of Memory situation is, how much memory do > you have, and what Desktop Environment and active programs (other than the > browser) have you been using when OOM-killer got triggered? I use KDE. That may be part of the

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

On 6 June 2018 at 15:26, wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:25:25PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: >> During the freeze, hard drive activity goes through the roof. Yes, my >> hard drive is fine and works normally when doing anything else. I also >> d

Firefox 52 (Buster) is grinding my system to a halt

Since getting my new laptop and clean-installing Buster, Firefox-ESR keeps locking my computer up so much that I usually have to hard restart because the system is totally unresponsive. When I'm lucky, I can drop into a TTY, kill Firefox and regain control. According to iotop, I think the

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

> In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo kill > timidity", and immediately my Volume control on the pane of KDE's Plasma > desktop changed, and the volume control slider produced test clicks. I > tried purging timidity, but it seems to want to take half of KDE with

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

> I feel like we are missing a trick here. Even with a relatively slow I/O > device (I was faintly amused to see SSD in the list of relatively slow > devices, if SSD is slow what is fast?) it should eventually catch up > UNLESS something is generating an insane amount of I/O over a sustained >

Re: Kernel doesn't recognises devices on USB 3 port

> A new portable hard drive and a new flash drive were, in turn, plugged into > the USB 3 port, but fdisk -l, lsblk and lsusb outputs suggest that > neither of these devices are recognised by the kernel when in that port. I have a similar problem with my laptop with a USB 3.0 port. It works in

How do I troubleshoot wireless network dropping?

I'm looking for help on how to interpret journalctl to understand why my wireless keeps disconnecting. I have two wireless adapters on my laptop: an internal Intel card and a USB dongle. The former has driver issues, so I generally rely on the latter. I know that the hardware is fine because my

Re: How do I troubleshoot wireless network dropping?

> So far the OP hasn't provided any information on what network management > tool is in use, we can only guess. Fair comment. I just assumed that everybody uses Network Manager these days. I travel with my laptop to different WiFi networks, and I never did learn any other form of WiFi setup. For

Re: Can slrn decode MIME messages?

Not a direct answer to your question, but the etiquette on the lists is to use plain text only messages wrapped at 80 characters to maximise compatibility with clients - I assume because the list forwards the messages using text-only headers. I get digests. Even though I'm reading on modern

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

>> It would help if you said which version of Debian you're using. > >And which boot parameter. Debian Bullseye. I want to add pci=nomsi to the boot parameters to troubleshoot a USB 3 issue. https://wiki.debian.org/Grub#Configuring_GRUB_v2 says that /etc/default/grub ought to exist, if it

Fwd: How do I troubleshoot wireless network dropping?

> Use ps x to see how many copies of wpa_supplicant are running. If you have > multiple copies started from the command line the wifi won't stay connected. > I had the same problem. Thank you for the suggestion. I checked when it started dropping and, not only was there one instance of

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

> Please tell us the output of: > dpkg -l | grep -i grub Sorry for missing this. Please see below: # dpkg -l | grep -i grub ii grub-common 2.04-8 amd64 ii grub-efi-amd64-bin 2.04-8 amd64 ii grub-efi-amd64-signed 1+2.04+8 amd64 rc grub-imageboot 0.6 all ii grub2-common 2.04-8 amd64 > The package

/etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

I know this is an amateur question, but I want to make sure that I do it correctly the first time. I want to add a boot parameter, so what file do I edit/create to do so? My computer doesn't have a /etc/default/grub file. I can't tell you why. I didn't intentionally delete it. I have a bunch of