Problems building Gaim
I would like to install gaim from unstablle.I am on testing. I edited my sources.list to reflect unstable sources( also added stable ), main, contrib and non-free Then I did : apt-get update apt-get build-dep gaim and I get the error: E: Build-Depends dependency for gaim cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libperl-dev can satisfy version requirements I tried and took a look on aptitude and there I have gaim1:0.64-3 and gaim-gnome, a virtual pachage containing gaim1:0.70-1.backports.org.1. If I call the dependencies on it I'll get an unavailable libperl5.6(=5.6.1-8.3) and a sugestion for gnome-panel or kicker docker higher then the ones I can install ( of course, this is sarge).I do have libperl5.8.0-18 ( and -dev ) My question is, how do I satisfy the anavailable dependency matter? I am very new to Debian and I am still trying to seek my way around things. Thank you for helping . John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely
Lukas Ruf wrote: Uwe Dippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 10:06]: On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:25:13 +0100, Jaque Moreau wrote: ... you can always upgrade manually ... ! can I find the required .deb files anywhere? wbr, Lukas I did a quick search on Google amd found it right away : Put this on your sources.list : # XFree 4.3 deb http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/i386/ ./ deb http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/ ./ Then run : apt-get install xserver-xfree86 -t 4.3 This was NOT verifyed by me - do it at your own risk . John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely
Damien Solley wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:29, John Peter wrote: Lukas Ruf wrote: Uwe Dippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 10:06]: On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:25:13 +0100, Jaque Moreau wrote: ... you can always upgrade manually ... ! can I find the required .deb files anywhere? wbr, Lukas I did a quick search on Google amd found it right away : Put this on your sources.list : # XFree 4.3 deb http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/i386/ ./ deb http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/ ./ Then run : apt-get install xserver-xfree86 -t 4.3 This was NOT verifyed by me - do it at your own risk . John Hi John Daniel Stone's packages have migrated from penguinppc.org to Sid, so you no longer need those sources.list entries you mentioned (but you did need to a couple of months ago). Oh, and it should be -t unstable instead of -t 4.3 (-t allows you to specify the distribution where the packages should come from, in this case 'unstable'). Regards Damien I stand corrected, Damien ! As I mentioned I just pasted the info and did not verify it - just tried to give,those who needed it, a push! A litlle search before asking doesn't hurt annyone ... Cheers ! John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??
Chema wrote: Hi there. I recently decided to give Debian a try ... But, of course, I'm pushing the reset, and starting again. But would like some guidance this time. The Getting Debian page mentions that: A network installation of the testing distribution will provide you with the very latest packages, whereas any CD images of testing that you download would be outdated very quickly. So the network installation of Sarge is my new bet. ... Did you know you could instal it by only downloading less then 50Mb of files and using your installed Grub to start it ? After that you can download and install whatever you need or desire. Let me know if you would like some guidelines on that ... Cheers John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Soundcard problem
Dean Sue wrote: i have a old motherboard msi don't know the model number! it has an on-board soundcard is there anyway to find out which soundcard drivers i need? Well, if you use discover maybe it can detect it and you can see it in dmesg after a reboot. Here is my audio section from dmesg ( just as an example ): Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20, 12:20:40 Oct 28 2003 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:06.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:04.2 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:04.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0a.0 emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 6 model 0x8027 found, IO at 0xb800-0xb81f, IRQ 11 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI login screen.
Hoyt Bailey wrote: - Original Message - From: Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 08:41 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. I do not dissagree on any point. However it should be my choice. Should I do something so stupid as download as root or read mail then I will be the one to pick up what pieces are left. I am sure you have heard of welcha and blaster, been there done that, they dont ask permission. Maybe you dont understand what I, and others, want. Idealy if the gui login screen added 3 items it would solve a lot of problems and would not incur any security risks. 1. Reboot (If I want to go to Windows) 2. Shutdown (If I want to go to bed) 3. Text mode.(If I want to do something as root) I have been reading this thread and I find all this very strange. I installed Debian base (network install) and then went to Sarge . Installed X, KDM and KDE and I have all that I used to have in other distros - I can do all that you mention and more ! There may be ways not to have it like that but I have and didn't have to configure anything! My login GUI even present you with clickcable icons (pictures) for you to select whatever user / root you want with a single click ( no need to write the actual name ). And for the really lasy and don't-care-about-login-stuff guys you can configure the GUI to do an auto-login! I don't know what else you may require - it will hardly wash your car ... Incidently Cntl-alt-del doesnt work from gnome. I expected it would. Neither does from KDE but you can use cntl-alt-backspace and go to login screen and then choose whatever is that you wish . And pressing cntrl-alt-F1 goes to you first tty , cntrl-alt-F2 to the second, until cntrl-alt-F7 that gets you back on X ( where you were in the first place ). If your machine doesn't work like this, then you shurelly have have something strange going on ... Good luck ! John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Source list help
Shaul Karl wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 12:03:38PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all: I was wondering where to get source to add to mu source.list in ordre to get packages from unstable. deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free ? Or you could find your best local mirror (or more then one-apt will use the best one) in the list : http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or here if you prefer: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list-non-US Then use the given examples and only change until the debian word - the rest should be the same. Then run apt-get update and then do what you want to do ( upgrade a package or the hole distro ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Source list help
Haines Brown wrote: Shaul Karl wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 12:03:38PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering where to get source to add to mu source.list in ordre to get packages from unstable. deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free ^^^ deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free ^ ^ I've been following the thread with interest. While not the nearest repository, I appended the above lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list and as root ran: # aptitutde update. I get the errors: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) ... Haynes, you have the answer right in front of you - you made a mistake in the line you wrotte in your sources.list . I think it's better to select the lines indicated above, copy them and paste them in you souces.list file .That way you won't make a mistake . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gaim needs kernel-headers ?
Hello all I would like to understand why, if someone has the time to explain it ... I have Sarge and 2.4.22 kernel ( installed and configured by me from sources). I allready had installed gaim_0.72-1 wich was compiled from sources and a .deb produced with Checkinstall . No kernel headers where needed - perhaps because it was built against the installed kernel? Now I removed (purged) the installed version, changed the distro in sources.list to sid and installed the very same version of gaim but it installed linux-kernel-headers for the 2.5.999 version - does this just mean it was built with this kernel ?And does it really need them ( the headers) ? Thank you . John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde in testing ?
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:28:30 -0900, Greg Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote: Am I mistaken? It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some other backport ? If so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to remove as opposed to upgrade, not enough info. ..this happened to me, upon trying out dselect, aptitude, synaptic etc, I found my system pretty confusing, as these 3 and apt-get differed on what I wanted done. ;-) I also noticed some strange behavior on aptitude but decided to try it anyway. I just took the care of doing it on the terminal and shuted down kde and X . With an apt-get dist-upgrade all went well and kde3.1.4 is running fine , all was properlly replaced and configurations are mantained . John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: Gaim needs kernel-headers ?]
---BeginMessage--- On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:45:37PM +, John Peter wrote: Hello all I would like to understand why, if someone has the time to explain it ... I have Sarge and 2.4.22 kernel ( installed and configured by me from sources). I allready had installed gaim_0.72-1 wich was compiled from sources and a .deb produced with Checkinstall . No kernel headers where needed - perhaps because it was built against the installed kernel? Now I removed (purged) the installed version, changed the distro in sources.list to sid and installed the very same version of gaim but it installed linux-kernel-headers for the 2.5.999 version - does this just mean it was built with this kernel ?And does it really need them ( the headers) ? Gaim depends on libc6 - libc6 in sid now depends on the package currenty known as linux-kernel-headers. The 'odd-looking' version number doesn't need to match your running kernel because this package contains private headers for libc6, which originated from the kernel; rather than anything tied to the kernel you are running. Some people are currently debating whether or not calling this package linux-kernel-headers is too confusing. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ ---End Message---
Re: What is the password of root when first run after the installation of the base system!
Nicolas Rueff wrote: Ainsi parla Otto Wyss le 315ème jour de l'an 2003: Since neither Sarge-i386-1 nor Knoppix nor Morphix was usable to install a base system I took out Debian-3.0r1 and cleanly installed it. Now I'm at the first run but I'm stuck at the Login prompt, I simply don't know the password for root!?! Hu, well, you should have entered it during the installation. Don't remember ? Wow, Alzheimer is close ... Can't this password just be written on the line before the Login? Yes, of course. You can also send it to everyone on the Internet. Another approach: echo What's the password ? | mail root ;) Sarcasm and funny lines don't help at all whoever is trying to learn ! Those who have learned and know a lot now, please don't forget that, at some stage, you had this and other kind of questions and problems and they are all valid. No one is born with infinit wisdom - some will learn quicker then others, some will be more hardworking in learning then others - this is one of the main features of humanity - diference ! Be human, help and get helped ( and don't expect a reward for it ) ! John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Identifying kernel soruce for 2.4.18-bf2.4
Haines Brown wrote: I need to have installed the kernel source in order to compile a driver, but have difficulty finding the source for 2.4.18-bf2.4. Is the answer that the bf2.4 is just an addition, and that the kernel source for my kernel is actually just 2.4.18? Haines Brown Could it be (and this is just a guess) that you forgot to include a deb-src line in you souces.list file (/etc/apt/sources.list)? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing modem.
Hoyt Bailey wrote: - Original Message - From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 19:07 Subject: Re: Installing modem. Hoyt Bailey wrote: You say ttyS3 is different from ttyS0 ttyS1; um, yes. They're different files. Maybe you mean something else when you say they're different? Yes, from dmesg: Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Redundant entry in serial pci_table. Please send the output of lspci -vv, this message (12b9,1008,12b9,00d3) and the manufacturer and name of serial board or modem board to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ttyS04 at port 0xd000 (irq = 19) is a 16550A It looks like you have two serial ports on your motherboard (00 01), in addition to your modem on 04. Apparently the PCI bus is getting confused somehow. You might want to go into the BIOS and temporarily disable the built-in serial ports, and see what that does for you. I have sent the requested message to the sourceforge.net. with a cc to this list. Why are you trying to transfer dmesg to floppy? Without knowing the exact command you used, as whom, in what directory, it's hard to say what might have gone wrong with your copy attempt. Because somewhere in the diddleing I came across dmesg as the log file which I didnt know and thought it might have something that would help. But I'm unsure why you'd want to copy it to floppy. If you need it in a file form, you can: dmesg dmesg.txt and then copy dmesg.txt to wherever you want it, including floppy. If you just want to see the dmesg messages, you can: dmesg | more I need to transport stuff to windows to make a hard copy /or to include in an emale. Floppy is the only way I have to do that. What happens with the command: echo ATDT555-1234 /dev/ttyS3 Nothing absolutely nothing and I can hear my modem sending. Dont have another number I can call. This I don't understand; you say it's doing nothing absolutely nothing and then immediately say you hear the modem sending, which means it's doing something. Either it's doing nothing or it's doing something. Which is it? How about: When and if the modem dials my ISP I can hear The modem output untill a connection is made. I can assure you the modem is doing nothing on either ttys3 or ttys4. I also assume you didn't really use the bogus number 555-1234? You want to use a real number, say to your cell phone, or a second line, or to the local time temperature (I didn't say that - no one can prove I did) and listen to the modem speaker for the time/temp announcement. If this works, that means the computer is seeing your modem, your modem is seeing the phone line, and the modem can dial out. I used both the bogus number and my ISP's number nothing happened. I dont think the modem is smart enough to know wheather the number is valid or not and a busy signal or error message from SBC is good enough. By the way the town is too small for time temp and cell phone service stops at my frount door. Outside it works inside forget it. -- Kent What program generated the connection between the modem's 8 I/O lines d000-d007 and /dev/ttyS3 and what would happen if I rm /dev/ttyS4 and maybe /dev/ttyS3 as well and remade, with MAKEDEV, ttyS3 and then run the program that makes the original connection. Regards; Hoyt I think it would be a good idea if you would try a diferent aproach. Since you have some problems configuring it by hand, I suggest using kppp wich is a very nice and userfriendly interface for configuring modems and serial line connections. In the times I used the phone line I used it and it would work on first time ever ! Try it - apt-get install kppp ( I hope you have KDE, I don't kow if it will run as a standallone...) John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:35 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:45:09PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: I recieved many suggestions to remedy the problem, non of them easy. I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the hardware I have (or think I might add in the future) and none for what I won't ever have. But, this is hacker level stuff I've never done, so I'm going to need a whole-lotta help. What is currently on the machine you wish to convert to debian? It's blank. I'd advise against compiling a new kernel at this stage, but I don't know which suggestions you have deemed hard. Here's the story. I installed with disk 1 and my onboard Broadcom 4401 nic isn't supported. I asked on this list for help and was told by numerous people that later kernels supported it and that I should get the latest and compile it. I thought that this was excessively geeky since I had managed to install support for this card as a module under Redhat. But I figured that I might learn something. Anyway this has been a huge pain in the ass since the machine has no networking and consequently no apt-get (which I've been led to believe is a package retreiver). After burning a bunch of CD's I finally got all the requirements installed and installed and compiled 2.4.22. I then made and make installed the module. Now I need to know what lines I have to add to what files to get the module working. Well, now it's easy - just edit /etc/modules and add the name of the compiled module. It will be loaded at boot from then on. Cheers John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: window manager recomendation
Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:08:44PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Icewm is lovely and a bit friendlier than pwm, but not the leanest by a bit. Here's some sizes for reference: Package: pwm Installed-Size: 336 Package: icewm Installed-Size: 1131 Package: iceme Installed-Size: 296 Package: icewm-themes Installed-Size: 15380 Package: ion Installed-Size: 348 Package: wmaker Installed-Size: 5400 Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is Installed-Size anyway?) For those eventually interested here is another one. I havent tested it, yet, but it has something in favor -his modularity . Here are the first lines describing it : XFce is a lightweight desktop environment for unix-like operating systems. It aims to be fast and lightweight, while still being visually appealing and easy to use. XFce 4 is a complete rewrite of the previous version. It's based on the GTK+ toolkit version 2. http://www.xfce.org/en/overview.html John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment
Peter S Galbraith wrote: Chema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:56 -0500 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PSG After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to use PSG something else. Any suggestions appreciated. Try blackbox or one of its derivates. It has most of what you want; at first it can feel a lil like twm ;-), but once you have it configured is very powerful. It looked _very_ minimal in looks from the screenshots. That's why i was leaning towards openbox. But I'll give it a try! Thanks! A lot of people is speaking well about XFCE - haven't tried it yet. It's here if you want to take a look: http://www.xfce.org/index.html John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATA Controller
Linux wrote:
Greetings all. I have a second IDE controller card installed in my
system and am trying to get it to work under debian.
Things that may be relevant:
hda - 15g HD
hdb - 20g HD
hdc - cdrom
hdd - cdburner
and on the second controller
hde - 30g HD
hde is reiserfs and is operational under my Mandrake 9.1 install, but
not seen by my Woody install. It is a fresh install after all the
hardware was in place, not hardware added after the install.
Hardware specifics:
Promise Technology, Inc.
Ultra 100 TX2 ATA/100 Controller
The manual says to go to www.promise.com for Linux for updates on Linux
support. Well, I did so, but no found no love.
Also tried to Google, but didn't get any results that I understood or
could use.
So, any suggestions? I can't help but think I simply need to use
modprobe and install a module or such. I played around with that idea,
but didn't hit upon anything that worked. Of course, since I'm not sure
what I'm looking for, I was guessing.
Ok, Adrien, here are some ideas :
First take a look at the relevant portio of my dmesg ( you can do the
same by openning a terminal and writting dmesg ).Scroll through it and
see if you find a similar set of lines as mine ( I use the very same card )
PDC20268: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:09.0
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:09.0
PDC20268: chipset revision 1
PDC20268: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0x9800-0x9807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0x9808-0x980f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: IBM-DJNA-370910, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c0379120, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX1611, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hde: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK drive
As you see I use a disk in the motherboard controller hda and another on
the Promise controler - no problem whatsoever.
You can also use lspci as a command to see info on the pci devices and
there you will have a line like this :
00:09.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20268
(rev 01)
So, now what you have to verify is if your kernel suports this driver -
pdc20268 .
At the terminal issue the command uname -a and see wich kernel is in use.
Mine is like this :
Linux peterpan 2.4.22.281003 #1 Tue Oct 28 12:12:30 WET 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
wich means that I am using a 2.4.22 kernel ( the rest of the numbering
is the date of the build).
If you have a 2.4.18 or later you are OK .Now you just have to see if
you have the kernel sources installed - go to /usr/src/ and see if they
are there .
If they are there or not I advice you first to read and put on paper
this document :
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
You will need it to help you getting everything you need to choose what
modules and how to recompile the kernel (the one you have or a new one).
After that carefull reading you are now able to go into the kernel - cd
/usr/src/linux and do a make menuconfig
Then scroll down until ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support, then to IDE ATA and
ATAPI Block devices and then enable (as a module - you don't need it in
the kernel because it's not your boot drive) Promise
PDC202{68|69|70|71|75|76|77} support .
Then follow all the instructions to build the kernel .
After everything is done you just have to put your module in the
/etc/modules file ( please check in your /lib/modules/kernel number to
see the exact name of the module - I think it should be pdc202xx ).It
would be a good idea to issue the commands (under root ) depmod -a and
update-modules .
I hope this is not to much at a time for you.
If you have never compiled a kernel this is a good reason to try it - if
you follow all the instructions on that document you will succeed .
If I forgot something, my apologies - someone will correct me, I am shure.
Good luck !
John
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Re: messenger
Paul Valley wrote: could some one recomend a very easy to setup insent messenger that would work with yahoo i dont like to compile things so if its in dpkg ill take it also any thoughts on where i can setup my sound card? This is the original : http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html Now, if you want some help on configuring whatever it might be, first let us know as much pertinent info about your system as you can, then let us know what efforts have you made in trying to do it ;-) John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4.18bf24 kernel and APM question
Keith Hooper wrote: OK I've got Debian Woody 3.0 installed on my old Toshiba Tecra 700ct laptop. Took some tinkering but I've got it fully functional. I originally installed it with the 2.4.18bf24 stock kernel that came with Woody. Everything worked though I had to add one tweak to get the pcmcia to work. Now I upgraded and compiled my own custom 2.4.22 (and a test 2.4.19 with same results) kernel. I did this because the bf24 kernel tries to load a scsi driver that conflicts with the scsi controller on the deskstation V that I also have. Now The new kernel fixed the problem with the pcmcia (don't need the fix I used with 2.4.18bf) but now the apm doesn't power down the laptop with shutdown. I've done quite a bit of digging and have found that at sometime the apm module in the kernels no longer powers down machines as a feature. And I've looked at both the bf24 kernel config file from Woody and my custom 2.4.22 config file and all the apm features are set identically. So I have a couple questions. Has anyone got a possible work-around for this to get apm to power down again? And what did the developers do to get the 2.4.18bf24 kernel to power down machines with apm? Did they have to patch the kernel with a special apm patch or was powerdown still available with the 2.4.18 kernel and they lost it when the 2.4.19 kernel came out? I don't even know where to find this info. Keith, I may not be able to help you more than this but I can tell you that my 2.4.22 kernel is using APM and is doing power down just fine. I am going to atach the config file and maybe you can sort out what is wrong with your configuration or if it is a bug or incompatibility with your laptop (they are allways harder to properly configure). Good luck John # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID16=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII=y # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_PGE=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set CONFIG_MICROCODE=m CONFIG_X86_MSR=m CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_BIGPHYS_AREA is not set # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y # # General setup # CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_ISA=y CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set # CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set # # ACPI Support # # CONFIG_ACPI is not set # CONFIG_OPTIMISE_SIZE is not set # # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) # # CONFIG_MTD is not set # # Parallel port support # CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO=y CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO=y # CONFIG_PARPORT_AMIGA is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_MFC3 is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_ATARI is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_SUNBPP is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y # # Plug and Play configuration # # CONFIG_PNP is not set # CONFIG_ISAPNP is not set # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set # CONFIG_CISS_SCSI_TAPE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set #
Re: Asus A7N8X Deluxe and Debian?
Scarletdown wrote: On 20 Nov 2003 at 11:00, Alexander Rink wrote: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` will fetch that missing files from a debian server for you. And that makes for a nice little catch-22 situation. The whole reason I'm doing this is so I can get the nVidia nForce drivers installed. Without them, neither of the on-board NICs work (or the sound for that matter). So there is no way I can get the missing files from a debian server, as I have no network connectivity yet. No problem there - you did install from a cd right?(you must have, as you don't have connectivity). Use apt-cdrom add to put your install cd in your sources and then you can issue apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` You can also use dpkg -i pkg name to install from the cd ... John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! strange bttv problem
Richard Kimber wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:18:57 +0100 Albert Dengg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi bttv works well for most things with 2.4.22 (at the moment im using bttv 9.11 (development version) from bytesex.org/bttv/ with 2.4.22 to test v4l2 support but otherwise it works well with the included version for me ... # # Multimedia devices # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m # # Video For Linux # CONFIG_VIDEO_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT=m # # Video Adapters # CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848=m ... +i2c support yours Albert Dengg On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:18:56 + Richard Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I do make xconfig for the first time in a clean 2.4.22 tree I am presented with the option to have support for BT848 video for linux (having already said 'm' to the main Video for Linux and to I2C support). When I choose 'm' and save, an examination of .config shows there is no reference to it. Are you saying that this is just a problem with xconfig, and that I should edit .config by hand? Or is the problem more fundamental? Here is my personnal recomendation ( I use 2.4.22 kernel and bttv ): First read this very carefully : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html ( I advice you to put it on paper ) Then you can use the config I send in attachement and configure it to your needs - that one shurelly has bttv working . Good luck John P.S.: You better do it when you have a lot of spare time ... Remenber, hurry is your enemy ! # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID16=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII=y # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_PGE=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set CONFIG_MICROCODE=m CONFIG_X86_MSR=m CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_BIGPHYS_AREA is not set # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y # # General setup # CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_ISA=y CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set # CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set # # ACPI Support # # CONFIG_ACPI is not set # CONFIG_OPTIMISE_SIZE is not set # # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) # # CONFIG_MTD is not set # # Parallel port support # CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO=y CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO=y # CONFIG_PARPORT_AMIGA is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_MFC3 is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_ATARI is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_SUNBPP is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y # # Plug and Play configuration # # CONFIG_PNP is not set # CONFIG_ISAPNP is not set # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set # CONFIG_CISS_SCSI_TAPE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y # CONFIG_BLK_STATS is not set # # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) # CONFIG_MD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set # CONFIG_MD_LINEAR is not set #
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Travis Crump wrote: Dan Jacobson wrote: is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a startx program, but no stopx. Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. #/etc/init.d/xdm stop Probably best done when the display manager is in the login screen state, but works anytime... Or, if you want to get X out of the way, edit /etc/inittab , look for the lines : # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: and replace the runlevel 2 with 1. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A7N8X Deluxe and Debian?
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Scarletdown wrote: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html Hopefully it won't come to that though. Sadly, I took a look through those instructions and found myself rather overwhelmed (time to go take an Ibuprofen and read through them again...) To slove the AGPGART problem, just get the 2.4.22 kernel source. Just jump in and build the kernel. It is not nearly as difficult as it seems on the surface, especially if you use kernel-package. Roberto is right - don't let yourself be intimidated with it ! Put everything on paper and follow the guide step by step, you will succed and it's not that hard - it just seems so... Don't forget to unninstall and clean everything you did before, not to mess things up. Good luck John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3rd Attempt at installing Debian
Mark Healey wrote: After doing a bunch of ugly things for a second time to get a Debian system installed and running I'm trying a third time. There is no networking. I need to build a module for my nic which doesn't have a .deb package. I have the source but need the kernel source which wasn't installed. I discovered that unilike what many people told me I don't need to rebuild the kernel. Yes, of course, if you have the needed module on sources, just compile it, install it (/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/net - use the apropriate kernel name) and put the module name in the file /etc/modules . I also need to figure out why X isn't working. There is also no mouse detection. Whenever I boot it it tries to start X. Several error messages. This is a hassle. Before I do anything else I'd like to stop this. I know it has something to to with something called runlevel What do I put in what file to change this. Edit /etc/inittab and look for this : # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: Change the runlevel 2 to 1 and you will be on single user ( no X ). To workout the problems with the xserver you have to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Good luck John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
Alex Malinovich wrote: I've finally managed to get a few friends and family members with very little computer knowledge to switch to Linux. One in particular at the moment has me at a bit of a loss as to what to suggest. My friend's mother is fed up with Windows 98 and wants something better. Every time before I've had to go with a newbie-friendly GUI for people who don't know computers and more importantly DON'T WANT TO LEARN about them, I've gone with either a Gnome or KDE setup. In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. At any other time, I'd suggest one of the *box variants. But with a user with this little knowledge and this little patience, anything that she can't just pick up and use right away simply won't cut it. So any ideas? (If only I could get her to learn emacs... emacs + w3m + XF86 + gnus = perfection! :) Here are two alternatives : http://www.xfce.org/ http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
Alex Malinovich wrote: I've finally managed to get a few friends and family members with very little computer knowledge to switch to Linux. One in particular at the moment has me at a bit of a loss as to what to suggest. My friend's mother is fed up with Windows 98 and wants something better. Every time before I've had to go with a newbie-friendly GUI for people who don't know computers and more importantly DON'T WANT TO LEARN about them, I've gone with either a Gnome or KDE setup. In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. At any other time, I'd suggest one of the *box variants. But with a user with this little knowledge and this little patience, anything that she can't just pick up and use right away simply won't cut it. So any ideas? (If only I could get her to learn emacs... emacs + w3m + XF86 + gnus = perfection! :) Here are two alternatives : http://www.xfce.org/ http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer Sorry, this is the right link : http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/ John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-getting source for my kernel
I need to compile the nic driver for my Broadcom bcm4401. I have the source but it needs the kernel source. I installed from disk 5 which means I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. I tried apt-getting kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4 and was told it doesn't exist. Where are you trying to gett it from? (the lines in your sources.list) How are you doing it? Are you shure it is that kernel? Did you try uname -r in a terminal to check it? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing CUPS
peted wrote: Hello, How do I know if I have CUPS installed? Also, is there some type of configuration program for CUPS? I get an error message when I try to run the KDE Printer manager stating that it could not connect to the CUPS Server on localhost:631 Thank you in advance for the help. Just click this link and if it is instaled and running you will enter the conffiguration interface: http://localhost:631/ John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATA Controller
Linux wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:10:09 +
John Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:
Linux wrote:
Greetings all. I have a second IDE controller card installed in my
system and am trying to get it to work under debian.
Things that may be relevant:
hda - 15g HD
hdb - 20g HD
hdc - cdrom
hdd - cdburner
and on the second controller
hde - 30g HD
hde is reiserfs and is operational under my Mandrake 9.1 install, but
not seen by my Woody install. It is a fresh install after all the
hardware was in place, not hardware added after the install.
Hardware specifics:
Promise Technology, Inc.
Ultra 100 TX2 ATA/100 Controller
The manual says to go to www.promise.com for Linux for updates on
Linux support. Well, I did so, but no found no love.
Also tried to Google, but didn't get any results that I understood or
could use.
So, any suggestions? I can't help but think I simply need to use
modprobe and install a module or such. I played around with that
idea, but didn't hit upon anything that worked. Of course, since I'm
not sure what I'm looking for, I was guessing.
Ok, Adrien, here are some ideas :
First take a look at the relevant portio of my dmesg ( you can do the
same by openning a terminal and writting dmesg ).Scroll through it and
see if you find a similar set of lines as mine ( I use the very same
card )
PDC20268: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:09.0
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:09.0
PDC20268: chipset revision 1
PDC20268: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0x9800-0x9807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0x9808-0x980f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: IBM-DJNA-370910, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c0379120, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX1611, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hde: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK drive
As you see I use a disk in the motherboard controller hda and another
on the Promise controler - no problem whatsoever.
You can also use lspci as a command to see info on the pci devices and
there you will have a line like this :
00:09.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc.
20268 (rev 01)
So, now what you have to verify is if your kernel suports this driver
- pdc20268 .
At the terminal issue the command uname -a and see wich kernel is in
use. Mine is like this :
Linux peterpan 2.4.22.281003 #1 Tue Oct 28 12:12:30 WET 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
wich means that I am using a 2.4.22 kernel ( the rest of the numbering
is the date of the build).
If you have a 2.4.18 or later you are OK .Now you just have to see if
you have the kernel sources installed - go to /usr/src/ and see if
they are there .
If they are there or not I advice you first to read and put on paper
this document :
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
You will need it to help you getting everything you need to choose
what modules and how to recompile the kernel (the one you have or a
new one).
After that carefull reading you are now able to go into the kernel -
cd /usr/src/linux and do a make menuconfig
Then scroll down until ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support, then to IDE ATA and
ATAPI Block devices and then enable (as a module - you don't need it
in the kernel because it's not your boot drive) Promise
PDC202{68|69|70|71|75|76|77} support .
Then follow all the instructions to build the kernel .
After everything is done you just have to put your module in the
/etc/modules file ( please check in your /lib/modules/kernel number
to see the exact name of the module - I think it should be pdc202xx
).It would be a good idea to issue the commands (under root ) depmod
-a and update-modules .
I hope this is not to much at a time for you.
If you have never compiled a kernel this is a good reason to try it -
if you follow all the instructions on that document you will succeed .
If I forgot something, my apologies - someone will correct me, I am
shure.
Good luck !
John
Greetings... Ok, I have been working on this and making some progress,
me thinks... but not there yet.
First off, thanks for pointing me to that tutorial on building a kernel
package. That was great. I'm going to have to browse around there and
see what else they have.
So, I am compiling ok, I seem to be getting the module, but still no
love.
Now, can anyone tell me how the sequence of events during booting would
affect all of this? I would think it's somewhat important. An
extension of that question is of course, how do you control the sequence
of events when booting the kernel?
Below is part of dmesg from my Mandrake install. I will point out that
this is happening someplace around 2/3 of the way through dmesg.
PDC20268: IDE controller at PCI slot 01:02.0
PDC20268: chipset revision 2
PDC20268: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PDC20268: ROM enabled at 0xff8e
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS
Re: Changing the default Gnome to KDE
James Hosken wrote: Please could some some one tell me how I change the default graphics enviroment to be KDE rather than Gnome. You should have that option on your desktop manager, usually a dropdown where you just select the desktop you want to run. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing the default Gnome to KDE
James Hosken wrote: Please could some some one tell me how I change the default graphics enviroment to be KDE rather than Gnome. You should have that option on your desktop manager, usually a dropdown where you just select the desktop you want to run. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATA Controller
Linux wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:10:09 +
John Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:
Linux wrote:
Greetings all. I have a second IDE controller card installed in my
system and am trying to get it to work under debian.
Things that may be relevant:
hda - 15g HD
hdb - 20g HD
hdc - cdrom
hdd - cdburner
and on the second controller
hde - 30g HD
hde is reiserfs and is operational under my Mandrake 9.1 install, but
not seen by my Woody install. It is a fresh install after all the
hardware was in place, not hardware added after the install.
Hardware specifics:
Promise Technology, Inc.
Ultra 100 TX2 ATA/100 Controller
The manual says to go to www.promise.com for Linux for updates on
Linux support. Well, I did so, but no found no love.
Also tried to Google, but didn't get any results that I understood or
could use.
So, any suggestions? I can't help but think I simply need to use
modprobe and install a module or such. I played around with that
idea, but didn't hit upon anything that worked. Of course, since I'm
not sure what I'm looking for, I was guessing.
Ok, Adrien, here are some ideas :
First take a look at the relevant portio of my dmesg ( you can do the
same by openning a terminal and writting dmesg ).Scroll through it and
see if you find a similar set of lines as mine ( I use the very same
card )
PDC20268: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:09.0
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:09.0
PDC20268: chipset revision 1
PDC20268: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0x9800-0x9807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0x9808-0x980f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
hda: IBM-DJNA-370910, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c0379120, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX1611, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hde: IC35L040AVER07-0, ATA DISK drive
As you see I use a disk in the motherboard controller hda and another
on the Promise controler - no problem whatsoever.
You can also use lspci as a command to see info on the pci devices and
there you will have a line like this :
00:09.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc.
20268 (rev 01)
So, now what you have to verify is if your kernel suports this driver
- pdc20268 .
At the terminal issue the command uname -a and see wich kernel is in
use. Mine is like this :
Linux peterpan 2.4.22.281003 #1 Tue Oct 28 12:12:30 WET 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
wich means that I am using a 2.4.22 kernel ( the rest of the numbering
is the date of the build).
If you have a 2.4.18 or later you are OK .Now you just have to see if
you have the kernel sources installed - go to /usr/src/ and see if
they are there .
If they are there or not I advice you first to read and put on paper
this document :
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
You will need it to help you getting everything you need to choose
what modules and how to recompile the kernel (the one you have or a
new one).
After that carefull reading you are now able to go into the kernel -
cd /usr/src/linux and do a make menuconfig
Then scroll down until ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support, then to IDE ATA and
ATAPI Block devices and then enable (as a module - you don't need it
in the kernel because it's not your boot drive) Promise
PDC202{68|69|70|71|75|76|77} support .
Then follow all the instructions to build the kernel .
After everything is done you just have to put your module in the
/etc/modules file ( please check in your /lib/modules/kernel number
to see the exact name of the module - I think it should be pdc202xx
).It would be a good idea to issue the commands (under root ) depmod
-a and update-modules .
I hope this is not to much at a time for you.
If you have never compiled a kernel this is a good reason to try it -
if you follow all the instructions on that document you will succeed .
If I forgot something, my apologies - someone will correct me, I am
shure.
Good luck !
John
Greetings... Ok, I have been working on this and making some progress,
me thinks... but not there yet.
First off, thanks for pointing me to that tutorial on building a kernel
package. That was great. I'm going to have to browse around there and
see what else they have.
So, I am compiling ok, I seem to be getting the module, but still no
love.
Now, can anyone tell me how the sequence of events during booting would
affect all of this? I would think it's somewhat important. An
extension of that question is of course, how do you control the sequence
of events when booting the kernel?
Below is part of dmesg from my Mandrake install. I will point out that
this is happening someplace around 2/3 of the way through dmesg.
PDC20268: IDE controller at PCI slot 01:02.0
PDC20268: chipset revision 2
PDC20268: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PDC20268: ROM enabled at 0xff8e
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS
Re: Usable X login/starter in Debian needed
Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 07:09:49PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: Isn't there a usable X login/starter in Debian. They're all usable. I've tried XDM (doesn't allow shutdown, looks awfull), Awful is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I find the simplicity of xdm to be absolutely wonderful. You *do* know that the look of it is completely configurable, right? The main thing you're going to run into is that xdm doesn't know what xft and librender are. Yet. ^_^ login.app (can't start my otherwise perfect running X). Hm, and you think xdm looks awful? ^_^ I won't try GDM (requires too much of gnome), Yeah, it requires a fair chunk, but it's just libraries. Does anyone know a simple solution? Well, I think you're going the wrong way, for one. You shouldn't be looking to shut down from the login screen in the first place. Log in, THEN shut the box down. I've already touched on the configurability of xdm. If you google for xdm shutdown you can find a simple tcl/tk script that will do most of what you want. You could try 'kdm' - I use and like it, but then I also use KDE.If you don't you will probably also have to install a few libs ( like gdm) ... John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help... I think I've shot myself in the foot...
Peter S. Hayes wrote: Thank you! I did read enough to figure out how to reboot (through LILO) into a single-user mode so that X is not started. The keyboard works fine there; it's only after X is started with the logon that the keyboard goes wacky. I haven't figured out how to get networking and other facilities running without the X... I think all other runlevels start X and I haven't quite the confidence to go modify a lot of the startup files (RC# whatever # should be) to eliminate X from that level, although that will be another project on my list of Linux learning experiences (assuming that I will - somehow, someway - get Linux running with X on this thing)! I've been looking for something in the chain of xdm files that would specify an incorrect keyboard and hadn't actually considered the xfree86... So, if that's where the keyboard would be configured, I can go in and rerun the config program to redo that file... Maybe! At least it's something to try! Well, if you want to do it by hand (and shure this is the best way to learn), you can edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and fidle with one the sections that says input device and then has a mention to keyboard. To be able to do that you might want to use : #nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (note you have to do it as root or you wont be able to right to the file) If you don't succeed you might want to try this tip I got from this M.L. : ...installing hotplug, mdetect and read-edid before X will enable it to auto-detect most everything for you anyway. And this command to reconfigure X: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 Hope this helps . Good luck John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icewm and windowmaker
Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 07:59:20PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: I don't really care, as it works, then again I don't think that editing this file is advisable for the integrity of my system. Did I miss the Debian Way here, or is it a bug / one of those things? No, you missed the normal X way. $ echo exec wmaker ~/.xsession and restart X. Can this command be used with any other desktop manager or does this depend on wich it is ? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling kernel - problems
Cruncher wrote:
I'm running Debian woody on a Pentium machine, installed from DVD and
using kernel vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4.
I'm trying to play around with different kernel settings, so I thought
I start by recompiling this one. I installed kernel-package and
kernel-source-2.4.18.
I go to directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18, and then follow the
instructions in various Debian documents. First one is make dep.
This results in some errors which relate to hdc (my cdrom) the first
one being:
hdc: read_intr: status=0x59 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error}
followed by various others and then the program exits with Error 135.
What am I doing wrong?
- C
First, go here : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
put it on paper and follow every directions by the letter.
If you still have problems come back and post it with all the pertinent info
you can get.
Good luck
Cheers!
John
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Re: Linux Sound Issues
Paul Burkett wrote: I've been having a helluva time to get sound working decently in Linux. The issue isn't so much quality (though I do notice a slight difference in quality compared to Windows, nothing to complain about) but that fact that is skips whenever I do anything that requires CPU resources. I've tried recompiling the kernel to make it more efficient and I've tried using the latest drivers from Creative. It doesn't skip as much but there are times when it does skip when playing an mp3. Usually it happens when I'm running any apt tools. Now I don't know if it is so much the fault of the CPU (an AMD Tbird 1GHz) or the soundcard (a POS SB Live), but I do notice kjournald running in the background when I check it out using top. Could it be ext3 is just a lot slower than ext2 and can't handle it? Is there anything I can do to tweak this? Or should I move onto XFS or ResierFS? Should I buy a new sound card? Should I try ALSA? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks again guys and gals. System Info: AMD 1GHz Thunderbird 512MB of RAM Running KDE Ext3 Filesystem Kernel 2.4.22 compiled for i686 Debian Unstable 40GB Maxtor 740DX HDD Dedicated to Linux SB Live! Sound Card (OEM) Via686B Chipset (Abit KT7A-RAID MB) AFAIK I didn't have this problem in Mandrake 8 but that was so long ago. Hi, Paul I also have the same card, 1.3Ghz processor and ATA 100 disk and it does eventually hik up now and then... I'm ussing the OSS drivers. I think we have to fidlle with the priorities of the prog. processing sound. I use noatun. Still didn't have time to think about this subject but I think I'll give it a try. I'll post if anything comes out of this ... John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia vs ati
Elie De Brauwer wrote: (I didn't turn any of my processes of, attached is ps axf) Hardware: AMD Athlon T-Bird 900mhz 768mb Crucual PC2100 GeForce4 MX440SE 128mb IBM G74 1280x1024 24bit Matrox Millennium2 8mb Acer 79g 1280x1024 24bit FIC AN11 mb (VIA 8266/A/7) 2x Maxtor 160gb (7200, 8mb) 1x WD 40gb (7200, ?mb) Software: nvidia kernel driver 4496 Linux note 2.4.22 #1 Tue Nov 18 23:58:07 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux glxgears on the GeForce4: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears 2710 frames in 5.0 seconds = 542.000 FPS 2836 frames in 5.0 seconds = 567.200 FPS 2812 frames in 5.0 seconds = 562.400 FPS 2725 frames in 5.0 seconds = 545.000 FPS glxgears on the Matrox: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual A bit more specific issues on my first results. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears 19475 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3895.000 FPS 22077 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4415.400 FPS 22000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4400.000 FPS 22026 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4405.200 FPS 22028 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4405.600 FPS 22080 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4416.000 FPS 22027 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4405.400 FPS On the default window size, when i manually maximize the screen to 1600x1200 framerate drops to 480 fps 1: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003 qntal:/home/helios# lspci | grep FX 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900 Ultra] (rev a1) qntal:/home/helios# dmesg | grep rocessor Detected 2806.445 MHz processor. CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000 CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0 Total of 2 processors activated (11206.65 BogoMIPS). All processors have done init_idle ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1) ACPI: Processor [CPU1] (supports C1) What a difference this is :'( [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears 1650 frames in 5.0 seconds = 330.000 FPS 1849 frames in 5.0 seconds = 369.800 FPS 1849 frames in 5.0 seconds = 369.800 FPS 1856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 371.200 FPS 1749 frames in 5.0 seconds = 349.800 FPS (default window size) NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR] (rev b2) CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU1000MHz stepping 01 CPU clock speed is 1299.9479 MHz host bus clock speed is 129.9947 MH CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia vs ati
Bill Moseley wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 10:12:07AM +0100, Elie De Brauwer wrote: Let's do some benchmarking I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce fx 5900 ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution I get about 4800 fps in glxgears Ok, you are making me feel bad. I've got an XP 1800+ on a MSI K7T266 board with a matrox G550 AGP running in 1280x960 and X 4.3.0.1. Noramlly run dual head xinerama but this is running with one screen setup: My fps is not quite so impressive as others have posted. Before I loaded my agpgart module I had: $ glxgears 960 frames in 5.0 seconds = 192.000 FPS 960 frames in 5.0 seconds = 192.000 FPS 960 frames in 5.0 seconds = 192.000 FPS 916 frames in 5.0 seconds = 183.200 FPS After insmod agpgart 1334 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.800 FPS 1556 frames in 5.0 seconds = 311.200 FPS 1557 frames in 5.0 seconds = 311.400 FPS 1557 frames in 5.0 seconds = 311.400 FPS Which is still less than exciting. And that's the default window size for glxgears. Full screen (maximized) is real ugly: 164 frames in 5.0 seconds = 32.800 FPS 165 frames in 5.0 seconds = 33.000 FPS 164 frames in 5.0 seconds = 32.800 FPS So is that just old, slow hardware[1], or should I be looking at other possible problems? ... [1] BTW -- I used to run swish-e indexing on this machine and it would index 25,000 files in about a minute. A few OS changes later, hard disk upgrades, and another 1/4 of RAM and now it indexes those same files in about 4 minutes. So maybe something else is going on, but I don't know where to start looking. Any ideas? Have you tried hdparm to see if your disk drive is optimised? Did you use the same type/brand of memory?Could it be of inferior quality/specs and slowing down the system? hhmm...can't think of anything else for the momment and the provided info (this is just a wild guest , anyway - I'm not an expert, although I deal with hardware ocasionally)... P.S.: It's not hardware related, but have you checked if you have some hard cpu consumming process(es) ? Chears John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP setup question
Todd Pytel wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:46:33 + (GMT) Anim Asante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have signed up with two ISPs and I tried to set up my Mozilla mail for the second mail account. Mozilla mail would not let me set up a second SMTP. My question is if I send a mail from the second account, which SMTP server will be used? What can I do about it? I don't know about Moz/Thunderbird for sure, but Sylpheed handles this nicely. You get an easy drop-down menu to choose the account when you compose a message. And if you use procmail or Sylpheed's built-in filtering to sort mail to different folders, you can set which account is the default based on the folder. I looked briefly, but didn't see any obvious way to do this in Thunderbird. I haven't tried it as I don't have two ISP's accounts on my cable connection and I don't want to be using a dialup acount just to test it, but I am pretty shure (on Mozzilla - I use 1.5) that you only have to configure accounts - in the Mail Newsgroups Account Settings - using the add accounts tab and you can download the messages corresponding to the intended account choosing from the dropdown on the GetMsgs button. Similarly I expect it will be a simillar dropdown in the Send button when compose a message, letting you choose the account you want it to send with. Let us know if this would be right ... John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to get the new installer?
Mariano Kamp wrote: Hi Richard, Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [··] My experience with Knoppix was excellent. I used it on two systems (laptop and desktop) and both are now mostly unstable - only bit of knoppix obviously remaining being the X splashscreen. It certainly solved some hardware issues for me - and a lot of time. ok, great. All there is left is the splash? Nothing nasty with different /etc or kernel compiles? Ok, I just read on debian-announce that the system will be back on really soon. If that is not going to happen tomorrow I'll give the knoppix hd installer a shot and try to work on the X issue. You might want to try Libranet ( http://libranet.com/ ) - they have a free version.Of course it is not as updated and polished as the new one but the consensus is that it really rocks. I'm just telling you for what I have been reading in their forum and around in general, but I'm going to try it just for fun. Good luck John P.S.: Contrary to Knoppix ( this one I tried ) it installs only what you tell it to and it has a nice system management tool . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: App for making invitation cards
Kent West wrote: I've had my mom running Debian for a couple of years, but she's just doing the minimal stuff of email/web browsing, and is not computer literate. Now she wants to create party invitations. Any suggestions as to the best direction to steer her? (Solving some of these issues would really be easier in the Windows world, but I _really_ want to avoid going that route. _Really_!) OpenOffice.org, perhaps ? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another NVIDIA problem (4496)
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 03:24:14PM +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: I've just bought a new GeForce 5600 (Gainward Ultra 780 TV/DVI) and for that occasion I've upgraded my nvidia drivers to 4496-10. after upgrading, X wouldn't start (error loading 'nvidia') unless I modprobe 'nvidia' manually, and then it loads, but with an error: I've googled for it but only found some kernel mailing list entries which I didn't understand. as a workaround I've added nvidia to '/etc/modules' but I was wondering if this problem can be solved. nVidia has actively demonstrated they don't care. Go return that video card and exchange it for an ATI Radeon, for which there are better drivers, as well as open source drivers for the Radeon that Just Work, and work way better than nVidia's proprietary hack. I use the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run installer from NVidea and just had to execute their instructions, by the letter and everything runs OK. Paul, I don't have a personal experience with ATI Radeon video cards on Linux, but I have been reading a lot of mails from peopple having problems with it - this doesn't seem such a linear issue... John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
