Re: How to prevent daemons from starting at boot after update?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
One option would be to install and use systemd. Afaik with systemd, one can use socket-based activation: that is, systemd listens on the socket that your daemons will use and only starts those daemons if something connects. You may need to manually configure that behaviour, I don't know whether

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:43:00PM -0300, Beco wrote: I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to search. Good point, sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:50:39PM -0600, Nelson Green wrote: 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always   -   12 I think this is bad. Num  Test_Description    Status  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error # 1  Short offline   

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu Debian developer - sorry i have no link). Then Ubuntu has significantly less to do... That's a flawed argument. It

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu Debian developer - sorry i have

Re: help

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - • I was not able to figure what you need help with from your mail • please use a descriptive subject when posting to this list • please do not send HTML to this list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:40:18PM +0100, Cosme Domínguez Díaz wrote: El 28/11/12 19:42, Britton Kerin escribió: Does anyone know what debian package provides the /usr/bin/sendmail program ^^^ or its equivalent like on the first system

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
Some interesting replies , many of which seem to have not read your message ;) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:42:31AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I get this: britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version Exim version

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-12-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:04:52PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Have a look at the /etc/inittab file. I have: # less /etc/inittab [...] # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now I'm fairly sure that X eats CTRL-ALT-DEL and init doesn't

Re: Problem With exim4 smtp authenication

2012-12-03 Thread Jon Dowland
Do either your username or password have a colon character in them? Do you need to connect to a particular port on the remote SMTP server in order to authenticate (e.g., some may accept authentication on the default SMTP port, some might not - you may need to connect to the submission port.) --

Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-12-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:35:51PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: hummm...I don't know but I care nothing for these code words squeeze wheezy sid etc. I prefer good 'ol stable testing unstable experimental. They both serve their own purposes. The code names continue to point at the same

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35:59AM +0100, phi debian wrote: So my question, does next release of debian will be poluted with gnome3, are will we have a choice? Even a dangled gnome2 would be good for me. GNOME2 will be gone, GNOME3 will be present, and the fallback mode has been renamed GNOME

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Network Manager icon not working well

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: is there any service which monitors status of Ethernet and changes Network manager's icon on gnome-control-panel? Network Manager. For GNOME3, nm does not draw the icon in the display, gnome-shell overrides it and provides its

Re: Debian 7 wheezy should be released by now, don't u think?

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:53:41AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote: You can have a look at http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2012/12/14-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_50/ to see the number of release critical bugs. The release should wait until that number is zero. Near zero. I

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:30:24AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: Cinnamon is actually in Sid right now. I haven't tried it, so I don't know how well it works. Thanks for the information. It still won't get into the next stable release, but being officially packaged is likely to be in the one after

Re: copy current HDD setout on preseed

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:40:18PM +0100, Frank Lanitz wrote: Depending on your goal you could create the layout and put it into kind of a image. Fastest way would be e.g. dd if=/dev/sda of=/foo/baa At last as long as you are not writing, whats your goal ;) OP mentioned preseeding. Can they

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:28:51AM +0100, Peter Viskup wrote: Hi all, just want to share my bad experience with Gnome3 in testing. They have/had some mem-leaks in there. viskup@viskup:~$ uptime 11:10:57 up 16 days, 17:01, 10 users, load average: 1.61, 1.34, 1.07 I'm not sure what this is

Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
You could use GNU units. It appears to treat SI prefixes as strictly base 10, so use the KiB/MiB etc. variants where applicable: $ units 8112116KiB MiB * 7921.9883 / 0.00012623094 Something like …21| awk '/transferred/' {print $1}'|while read i; do units ${i}bytes GiB; done

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:09:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Indeed, but we're talking about 3GB of memory here, which seems hard to justify for such an application. Sure, but my point was it's not a leak. Being memory inefficient is one thing. Leaking memory is where, over time, it takes

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-25 Thread Jon Dowland
For simple per-package results, dpigs from debian-goodies gives you what you want (and is little more than a one-liner similar to what was posted by another to this thread, internally.) As for cumulative space, what you want is not how much space a package takes up but to answer the question: for

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:47:22AM -0600, green wrote: So, imagine that I have a full filesystem and want to fix it by removing a single package. I would need to get a list of manually installed packages, and go through each one of them individually, proposing a removal and saving aptitude's

Re: virtual interfaces not routing properly.

2012-01-13 Thread Jon Dowland
If you set the netmask for all the aliases (eth0:0 etc.) to 255.255.255.255, do you get the result you want? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: suspend / power off

2012-01-16 Thread Jon Dowland
, and perhaps other bits and pieces too depending on your setup, such as NICs). -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120116161928.GC23539@pris

Re: ifstated equivalent on Linux

2012-01-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:39:48PM -0300, Carlos Miranda Molina (Mstaaravin) wrote: Anyone knows tool similar to iftstated (BSD) for Linux? no matter if not exist Debian package (i can compile) If you provide a description of what ifstated does, then someone might be able to suggest an

Re: squeeze kernel upgrade fixes r8169 network driver?

2012-01-16 Thread Jon Dowland
it, not this security upgrade, but the security upgrade is built on top of the point release. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120116161444.GA23539@pris

Re: squeeze kernel upgrade fixes r8169 network driver?

2012-01-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On 16/01/12 21:14, Curt wrote: Yes, I verified in the kernel logs (/var/log/kern.log--thanks for that tip) : I was using 2.6.32-39 before; after the upgrade I'm using 2.6.32-39squeeze1. According to the changelog, there has indeed been no other changes between those versions. I'm *sure* I

Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 02:04, Marc Auslander wrote: Now, does that code contain a copy of grub.cfg? Or does it read it from someplace? If the second, how does it decide where/how to read grub.cfg. I understand how, once it has grub.cfg, it decides what to boot. It's where grub.cfg comes from that I

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends

Re: how to check 400 files exist

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 08:33, Balint Szigeti wrote: run this ls|xargs wc -l Never parse the output of ls(1) http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: how to check 400 files exist

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 11:29, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: On 01/19/12 03:04, lina wrote: [...] Thanks, but here it complains so many $ ./check_file.sh ./check_file.sh: line 8: [: too many arguments Possible problem with spaces. This one works for me: No, the problem is the number of arguments to

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
an MDA. I didn't read the OP's message as indicating that one piece of software needed to deliver to that place without invoking another. Indeed, I want a Debian system would seem to support using multiple bits (such as getmail + a MDA such as Exim) -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
invoked the one from the bad drive,) and adjust the kernel command line so that root=LABEL=new-label. That above might do the job; if not, you may also need to play in the GRUB CLI to access the correct /boot to load the correct initramfs. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: how to check 400 files exist

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 12:25, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: So theoretical your comment is right, but I doubt that max argument limit is the reason of problem in this case. Well, read the error message again: ./check_file.sh: line 8: [: too many arguments The test binary, aka '[', has received too

Re: xfs backup system vs rsynce

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Dowland
doesn't remove old increments, but stores the backup files in a git-formatted archive (so chunked and de-duplicated, with sliding window compression and other such magic) -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Gnome3 login failure

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On 24/01/12 14:56, Richard wrote: Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second that dreaded something has gone wrong message and to logout. Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files will cause them to be recreated on login ? Or any

Re: Kernel Compiling from scratch

2012-01-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On 25/01/12 10:40, Syed Hasan Atizaz wrote: I like to know where can i get the information in detail for compiling kernel, loading modules and installing programs from scratch. i never did it before. I installed virtual box recently and looking to play with it. Download the kernel sources from

Re: Kernel Compiling from scratch

2012-01-26 Thread Jon Dowland
mkinitramfs and I had a working functional initramfs. It also updated grub. Note that I didn't use *any* special Debian build method, literally just an upstream git clone and make, and despite this the initramfs and bootloader bits were done correctly. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Kernel Compiling from scratch

2012-01-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On 26/01/12 09:38, Lisi wrote: What, in this context, does pae mean? pae means physical address extensions, was otherwise known as bigmem in Debian packaging until recently. It's necessary to see/use ≥ 4G of RAM on a 32bit kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Truecrypt

2012-02-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On 31/01/12 16:59, Stayvoid wrote: I want to encrypt my files automatically when I close my laptop. Is it possible? Which directories should be encrypted? Where is stored my personal information (GPG keys, personal data etc.)? I'm using gNewSense (it's a Debian-based distro). The debian

Re: screenshot manipulation tool

2011-08-08 Thread Jon Dowland
puritanism over a pragmatic solution to a problem? -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110808143613.GD5621@pris

Re: loss of sound in VLC

2012-02-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On 02/02/12 01:18, Sharon Kimble wrote: Can anyone suggest further things to try to regain sound on vlc which worked very well until the recent upgrade. If you create a new guest user, does VLC work for that user? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: loss of sound in VLC

2012-02-03 Thread Jon Dowland
My VLC (=1.1.13-1) is sadly, similarly not playing any sound now. I shall dig. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f2ba957.9000...@debian.org

Re: how to check the server can be connected or not

2012-02-03 Thread Jon Dowland
while true; do ssh server break done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f2ba9b8.4050...@debian.org

Re: Backup System

2012-02-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On 03/02/12 05:36, David Christensen wrote: $ apt-cache search backup | less HTH, It's hardly likely to. I don't know why you bothered to suggest it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Backup System

2012-02-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On 03/02/12 02:45, Gary Roach wrote: I have 3 computer running on Debian Squeeze. One has an unused hard drive that I wish to use as a backup disk for all 3 computers. Is there a simple way to do this that can be completely automated. I'd recommend rdiff-snapshot, in conjunction with ssh,

Re: how to check the server can be connected or not

2012-02-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On 03/02/12 09:55, lina wrote: On Friday 03,February,2012 05:32 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: while true; do ssh server break done Thanks for both of you, the two ways once ssh server, it stayed in server and won't come back and proceed the rest. I don't fully understand your follow-up

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On 03/02/12 18:19, Jan Moskyto Matejka wrote: Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? The issue is/was the toolchain required for WPA support, and of course person-power to implement anything. There was a long flameware about having

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On 07/02/12 14:45, Camaleón wrote: Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? ;-( Perhaps the developers have enough testers and don't need your input? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: GNU/Debian Linux vs. facebook, Twitter and other proprietary social media

2012-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On 05/02/12 00:09, Nick Lidakis wrote: But using this facebook app I would still need to create a facebook account, yes? Facebook's privacy concerns only apply to whatever data you give them. Set up an account and only supply business-data: promotions etc., stuff for which exposure is a

Re: GNU/Debian Linux vs. facebook, Twitter and other proprietary social media

2012-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On 05/02/12 00:09, Nick Lidakis wrote: But using this facebook app I would still need to create a facebook account, yes? Facebook's privacy concerns only apply to whatever data you give them. Set up an account and only supply business-data: promotions etc., stuff for which exposure is a

Re: Gnome package now requires installing tracker?

2012-02-14 Thread Jon Dowland
maintainers say it is: and they're now saying it includes tracker. What you mean is, gnome-core is a better choice *for you* because you don't want the GNOME desktop, you want a subset of it. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Gnome package now requires installing tracker?

2012-02-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 04:04:09PM +, Camaleón wrote: Any document to support that statement? It will be indeed very sad to see that requirement coming from GNOME ;-( Well, er, it is part of the GNOME project… http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: sample rate of ogg and flac files

2012-02-20 Thread Jon Dowland
suggestion. I think it's a great idea, but you should look at discussing this with upstream first, perhaps on their development list, and then perhaps file a bug there. The Debian bug is likely superfluous. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Convert mp3 enbulk

2012-02-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On 20/02/12 04:39, Carl Fink wrote: find . -name *mp3 -exec oggencoptions {} \; On a multi-core system, for a small-ish number of files, I would suggest find . -name *mp3 -exec oggencoptions {} + which will run the oggenc processes in parallel. (Of course you have two distinct

Re: Windows screws up Linux's clock

2012-02-21 Thread Jon Dowland
On 21/02/12 05:00, Kousik Maiti wrote: May be the problem is with your motherboard battery... not OS ... That only manifests itself when he boots into Windows? No, this is a well-known problem, it's Windows. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: quick and dirty backup

2012-02-21 Thread Jon Dowland
On 20/02/12 15:54, Rob Owens wrote: I'd also exclude lost+found If there's anything in there, then it could have been recovered from anywhere on the filesystem, and could be valuable. I'd include it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Fwd: Re: Windows screws up Linux's clock

2012-02-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On 22/02/12 03:54, Don deJuan wrote: Since you will not keep this in the public list I will forward your emails to it. Please don't, we're not interested. If someone mails you privately with something you find disagreeable please deal with it yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Setting /tmp size.

2012-02-28 Thread Jon Dowland
(right now I have everything encrypted but I typically don't do that) -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f4ca003.3040...@debian.org

Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere

2012-02-29 Thread Jon Dowland
not in the NEW queue, so I guessed pending review here means it's being reviewed by a developer with a view to sponsoring a new upload. However I did some investigation and unfortunately it's not even that far: it has been packaged and the maintainer is seeking a debian developer to review it. -- Jon

Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere

2012-02-29 Thread Jon Dowland
hosts. I'd suggest going for a virtualisation technology, and I'd suggest KVM - unless your management software layer (proxmox or whatever) dictates another e.g. Xen in which case the management layer is a more important decision. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Checking SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign .

2012-02-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On 28/02/12 19:29, Sthu Deus wrote: I try to check live CDs SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign: under normal user: gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS Wrong tool! GPG is for verifying signatures, not hash sums. Try 'sha256sum' from coreutils. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Open bug in Kino

2012-02-29 Thread Jon Dowland
The situation you are describing can be solved by a binNMU (Binary Non-Maintainer Upload). There's a description of the process here: http://wiki.debian.org/binNMU If you have the time to invest, it would be great if you could see that process through. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Gnome-terminal focus

2012-03-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:35:26AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: When I left-click on a tab in gnome-terminal the focus is on the tab and not in the terminal at the prompt. How can I change that behaviour to take the focus to where the prompt is? I think that will require patching the source.

Re: Restrict a user to a set of binaries?

2012-03-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 07:29:52AM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: You can remove /bin/ and/or /usr/local/bin from his PATH by changing its /home/user/.profile They could just add it back, though. This doesn't offer any serious protection. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: ntp package. Client by default?

2012-03-05 Thread Jon Dowland
it *does* appear to be listening as a server for other clients, by default, and I'd agree this is perhaps not the best default. I'd argue that this was a worth a feature-request bug. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: ntp package. Client by default?

2012-03-05 Thread Jon Dowland
to install, for people who want just an ntp client? -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120305213523.GA11705@debian

Re: ntp package. Client by default?

2012-03-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 10:30:28PM +0200, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Also,aren't most of people using firewalls anyway? Defence in depth. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: KVM problem

2012-03-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 06:52:03PM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: Howdy! A friend is having the devil's own time trying to get qemu-kvm working for himself. I have no such trouble. We are both using Squeeze. I have a quad Phenom-II with 8GB RAM, nVidia video. He has a dual Athlon with 3GB

Re: OT Apache Open Office

2012-03-11 Thread Jon Dowland
a choice in Debian of which one to use. Someone will have to step up and put the work in to package AOO, for the choice to exist in Debian. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: KVM problem

2012-03-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 11:56:53AM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: On Friday 09 March 2012 10:16:48 Jon Dowland wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 06:52:03PM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: Howdy! A friend is having the devil's own time trying to get qemu-kvm working for himself. I have

Re: ntp package. Client by default?

2012-03-13 Thread Jon Dowland
for incoming connections *at all* if it's acting purely as an ntp *client*. Therefore the LAN topology is irrelevant. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: ntp package. Client by default?

2012-03-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 01:07:39PM +, Camaleón wrote: For instance, I wouldn't see any objection in splitting the package in the same way sshd is (there is a client and a server part) and set the desired configuration (as server or client) for each of them. I would. The answer to people

Re: OT Apache Open Office

2012-03-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 01:36:58PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Thanks, I will start enumerating the differences between OpenOffice and LibreOffice here: http://dotancohen.com/eng/difference_openoffice_libreoffice.html That's going to be one hell of a moving target. What audience are you trying

Re: testing a udp socket with netcat

2012-03-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On 14/03/12 13:27, Arif Hossain wrote: i've this udp daemon which is waiting for an incoming udp datagram. now i want test this daemon for random garbage to test how it behaves. My udp daemon is running because its shows on netstat. problem is if i issue following command for putting udp

Re: vsftp problems

2012-03-14 Thread Jon Dowland
Try running /usr/sbin/vsftpd by hand (as root) from a session on your server. Does it print any diagnostic output? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Laptop and HDMI output selective working

2012-03-15 Thread Jon Dowland
Are you using a desktop environment, such as GNOME, and if so what version? In X, can gnome-control-center's displays panel detect your attached monitor? Does it show up in the output of xrandr? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: vsftp problems

2012-03-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On 16/03/12 01:50, Gary Roach wrote: 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket Are you attempting to start it by hand as root? If so, can you try lsof -ni:21? It looks like something else has bound to your port 21. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT] what is the correct way of setting up lvm

2012-03-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 09:08:48PM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: this not a debian issue but a general linux issue It's still on-topic, no need to mark the subject as OT. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Reportbug from scratch

2012-03-22 Thread Jon Dowland
that is not surprising. If you want reportbug to connect to exim, change the quoted line above to 'localhost', but you'll need to ensure your exim is set up right. If you type 'nc reportbug.debian.org 25', do you get an SMTP dialogue? -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: rt kernel and nouveau

2012-03-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:39:51PM -0700, daniel jimenez wrote: Hello everyone, I'm trying to get an rt kernel working in debian testing on an amd64 laptop with nvidia graphics. Ideally I'd have nouveau set up to start when I select (in grub) the rt kernel and the nvidia drivers when

Re: rt kernel and nouveau

2012-03-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 01:05:31AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: Or, install the script as an init script, and have it look at uname, or /proc/version, or something to pick it automatically, before the display manager starts (or add it to that init script). The display manager is probably not

Re: limiting mutt search to header

2012-03-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On 26/03/12 14:30, Rick Pasotto wrote: How do I limit the search patterh space to message headers in mutt. I have mutt installed on twomachines. On one ctl-c does the trick but on the other ctl-c wants to quit mutt. Once you have invoked the search (via '/' with default bindings afaik) prefix

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-27 Thread Jon Dowland
using Debian wheezy with my Samsung Intel Atom N455 1.6 GHz netbook, with Shorewall Firewall configuration. Perhaps you could help? http://www.debian.org/intro/help -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-28 Thread Jon Dowland
than the underlying technology. If I could only choose either the base VM tech or the management tool, I'd always opt to have control over the latter. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-28 Thread Jon Dowland
sympethize that you have faced problems with KVM that you hadn't seen with Xen. I've had the opposite experience myself. In general I think the management tools are much more important than the base VM tech. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On 28/03/12 01:32, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I am also in favor of Xen. You have just said, not two messages ago, that you've never even tried KVM. I always prefer to base my opinions on evidence, personally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Why did gtkdialog disappear from the repository?

2012-03-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On 28/03/12 07:11, Scott Ferguson wrote: Maybe you should become the new maintainer. Or switch to one of the better alternatives that the RM bug claims exist: http://bugs.debian.org/543945 Sadly, such bugs almost never actually cite what the better alternatives are… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Why did gtkdialog disappear from the repository?

2012-03-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:26:18PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: NOTE: I'm not the OP, please quote more carefully. Please expand: I trimmed to just what you said and attributed it to just you. Where do you think I went wrong? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Differences between using KVM and virt-install?

2012-03-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:53:54PM +, James Allsopp wrote: I was trying for ages to build a KVM virtual machine using virt-install and it always failed, tried KVM command directly following Gentoo instruction and got it to work first time. What commands failed? What commands worked? Is

Re: Dual-boot with kFreeBSD and Linux cannot find Linux kernel

2012-03-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:24:30AM +0100, David Banks wrote: menuentry 'squeeze' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(hd1,msdos1)' linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet initrd

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? Take a look at when RHEL 6 came out (very recently) and how long the gap between RHEL releases is on average (large) and extrapolate (not for years). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:22:09PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Debian 6.0 Squeeze also supports Xen virtualization but you have to apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64. Thank you yes, I mentioned that myself two messages earlier in this thread: Besides, the 2.6 series

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
sure that Hyper-V was developed independently from Xen, but it certainly supports some kind-of interoperation with Xen interfaces for guests.) -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:36:32PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: I just got interested about virtualization and noticed that this thread is still going on. As far as I can see, most people are currently recommending Xen. The sample size of thread participants is too small to extrapolate

Re: sharing desktop on debian - freenx?

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:01:30AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: I would strongly suggest looking at X2Go - also NX based. It is a relatively young progress but has been making significant progress over the last year - www.x2go.org and wiki.x2go.org. I think you'll be pleasantly

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:36:25PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote. I know that this can be configured in client and I have set Icedove to use top posting

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:02:21PM +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Did I mention that asking for a return receipt for a mailing list post is kind of…strange? That is, do you really want all 30k subscribed users to acknowledge the receipt of your post? I am luckily insulated from a lot of these

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On 03/04/12 17:06, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Yes we did, but you are forgetting GPG clearsigning vs GPG S/MIME and was there something else... ☺ I missed that part of the discussion (but that has reminded me to re-setup my mailer to sign ☺) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 09:58:34PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: 3. Oh, I thought that all clients do like Enigmail. It just shows blue/green banner with valid signatures. Blue for untrusted key and green for signed key. Some may be interested in 't-prot', which (with a willing mail client)

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