Re: Sound troubles on crashed Jessie on Skylake

2016-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:01:01 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Which sound devices are shown by alsamixer? (See the text on the top left > and, maybe, use F2 and F6 keys.) Card: PulseAudio Chip: PulseAudio F6 default 0 HDA Intel PCH 1 HDA NVidia enter device name F2 /proc/asound/version

Sound troubles on crashed Jessie on Skylake

2016-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
My husband's box, Jessie with Skylake, is still recovering from being summarily turned off in mid-stream. I have been trying to get sound reworking. I did: peter@Nyx-II:~/Music$ pacmd set-default-sink 1 No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon. peter@Nyx-II:~/Music$

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 August 2016 16:26:25 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > There is no such thing as a "right name". > > There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing > as a correct name in a technical discussion. It's easier for everyone > if we all use the definitions

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 August 2016 14:02:45 Charlie wrote: > All wisdom is rooted in learning to call things by the right name. When > things are properly identified, they fall into natural categories and > understanding becomes orderly. Provided that everyone agrees on what the names mean. In this

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 August 2016 03:21:20 David Wright wrote: > The OP said they use fvwm which exhibits the behaviour I described. > If you can drag the window from where it popped up to where you want > it, then it was on the correct *desktop*. No, it wasn't. I said and meant "desktop", otherwise

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 21:03:52 Glenn English wrote: > > I suspect it may have something to do with the arrival of workspaces in > > Windows 10. > > Nope. The most recent Mac OS does the same thing. It isn't the OS we are complaining about. It is Chromium/Google and its new habit, which I

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 20:50:05 David Wright wrote: > Anyway, if it's workspace in the sense of the one mention of > "workspace" in   man fvwm   ie desktop, then I can't be of any help. Thanks, David. I don't think that anyone can be of any help. I think one just has to curse and live

Re: Wheezy Xfce losing mouse clicks

2016-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 15:19:43 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Qua, 03 Ago 2016, David Christensen wrote: > > Lately, I have noticed that mouse clicks (e.g. left button, one click) > > are getting lost. Sometimes I have to click multiple times, especially > > when the CPU is loaded.

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 14:52:38 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 03 Aug 2016 at 11:10:46 (+1000), Charlie wrote: > > From my keyboard: > > > > Debian testing 4.6.0-1-amd64 > > Using FVWM > > Chromium - Version 52.0.2743.82 built on Debian stretch/sid, > > running on Debian

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 02:10:46 Charlie wrote: > Has anyone discovered this problem and found a way to stop this > happening? Please share. Can only offer fellow-feeling. Most annoying. It is of recent arrival here (Debian Jessie, 8.5, Google Chrome 52.0.2743.82 (64-bit)), and although I

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 31 July 2016 23:00:24 Stephen Powell wrote: > If you like Ubuntu better than Debian, fine.  Use Ubuntu.  Nobody's > stopping you.  But don't come over here and try to tell us that we should > be doing things the way Ubuntu does.  We're different for a reason.  I'm > not saying there

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 31 July 2016 09:59:44 Brian Wengel wrote: > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from > their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have used > for many years. I'm glad that you are rich and live in a rich country. Many aren't and

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 31 July 2016 08:46:36 Brian Wengel wrote: > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step to move away from

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 29 July 2016 18:07:43 Glenn English wrote: > > On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:18 AM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Friday 29 July 2016 01:01:07 Glenn English wrote: > >> But. When I tried again after telling wicd to use DHCP instead of

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

2016-07-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
d nostalgia with the Win > 9x-era rendering of the icons and menus! :-) That is good news. Perseverance pays off. Lisi > With thanks, > > > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:29:21 +0100 > > From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

2016-07-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 29 July 2016 00:51:42 Borden Rhodes wrote: > Thank you, Siard. I'm grateful for help no matter who gives it! Here's > the PNG of the offending toolbar in LibreOffice: > https://s31.postimg.org/fanuugafv/Screenshot.png . As I hope the photo > shows, the buttons render correctly when

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 29 July 2016 01:01:07 Glenn English wrote: > But. When I tried again after telling wicd to use DHCP instead of a static > IP, it successfully connected. It even got the IP I'd set up for the laptop > over on the DHCP server's config. Ah! There's the clue, I would guess. You had

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 22:15:52 Glenn English wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 1:27 PM, David Wright > > wrote: > > > > The answer may lie in the logs. Mine contains the lines > > > > 2016/07/28 07:35:36 :: Setting false IP... ←-- > > Ah! They set an

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 20:18:38 Brian wrote: > And if they did it could just as well be wicd (NM) as NM (wicd). Indeed. I take as much care not to have NM on the computer with wicd as vice versa. In that saga you helped with so signally, you may have noticed that I tried both several times

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 15:43:43 Jochen Spieker wrote: > (Please don't top-post. Trim the quotes and reply below the quote you > are referring to. Thanks.) Jochem - Steve is blind. Many (Most? All??)blind people find bottom posting and trimming very difficult. He is already putting paragraph

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 14:36:54 Steve Matzura wrote: > I am running 8.0; 8.5 is out. Came out on June 24. Are you saying I > should wait for 9 to become stable release and then upgrade to that > version? I thought by going to 8.5 would be a good idea. Maybe not? You should upgrade regularly to

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 14:35:09 Mike McGinn wrote: > On 07/28/2016 07:36 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 27 Jul 2016 at 22:36:01 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > >>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Glenn English wrote: > >>> > >>> What does "Verifying access point association" mean > >>

Re: Another appeal about Flaky browsers

2016-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 23:01:20 Felix Miata wrote: > Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-07-27 22:38 (UTC+0100): > >> so is the problem shortage of memory? > > Memory shortage normally only produces slowdowns (due to swapping), not > crashing or failing even to start. So that is n

Re: Another appeal about Flaky browsers

2016-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 22:50:36 Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/27/2016 05:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > The rest of us aren't having the problem, so it must be something in > > Alan's personal set-up or config files. Having said which, I do find > > that Google Chrome is current

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

2016-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 22:19:22 Borden Rhodes wrote: > If you can't load > the photo (because it's converted into plain text), the problem is > that the taskbar background shows artefacts from other windows. I see a large number of back lozenges with ? in them, interspersed with a small

Re: Another appeal about Flaky browsers

2016-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 22:18:36 Felix Miata wrote: > Alan McConnell composed on 2016-07-27 16:07 (UTC-0400): > > I wrote about this a while ago, but have to repeat my appeal. > > > > Under jessie all the gui browsers I have tried(iceweasel and > > chromium) crash continually, with messages

Re: How to create package without source code

2016-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 09:36:13 Hans wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > this doesn't help me at all. All manuals I read assume, I have a programm > in source code. But I repeat: it is just a shell script! > > Of course, each user can download it, put it below /usr/bin/, set manually > owners to root:dig,

Re: What Linux distribution to use?

2016-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 July 2016 18:47:11 Johann Klammer wrote: > On 07/26/2016 04:50 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Telling us your requirements, will make making a recommendation easier. > > I did. it's just those two things... > ... > kinda thought it was obvious, that the problem is my boxen being too >

Re: What Linux distribution to use?

2016-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 July 2016 18:47:11 Johann Klammer wrote: > On 07/26/2016 04:50 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Telling us your requirements, will make making a recommendation easier. > > I did. it's just those two things... Why use Stretch if the software in it ios too new for your boxen?? > ... >

Re: What Linux distribution to use?

2016-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 July 2016 12:49:35 Felix Miata wrote: > Johann Klammer composed on 2016-07-26 11:35 (UTC+0200): > > Unfortunately, Debian does not work for me anymore. > > > > I have special needs: > > binary packages. > > i386 code without SSE stuff or other surprises. > > > > any advice? > > Take

Re: What Linux distribution to use?

2016-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 July 2016 10:35:54 Johann Klammer wrote: > Unfortunately, Debian does not work for me anymore. > > I have special needs: > binary packages. > i386 code without SSE stuff or other surprises. > > any advice? https://distrowatch.com/

Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha(off topic)

2016-07-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 25 July 2016 16:34:11 limpia wrote: > On 2016-07-24 22:27, phil wrote: > > On 25/07/2016 9:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> (Bringing it back to both lists so those who are telling Gene he > >> should upgrade his debian can get a clue.) > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Gene

Re: Debian 8. keine Ahnung....

2016-07-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 25 July 2016 14:43:45 Wilko Fokken wrote: > Ein Trost bleibt: > > Debian [nach ausgiebigen "Verwirrungen des Zöglings Törleß"] zu > installieren, könnte dazu beitragen, den künftigen Aufenthalt im Altersheim > zu verkürzen ;~) This IS the English speaking list. If you want to use

Re: Force Re-installation

2016-07-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 24 July 2016 20:31:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/24/2016 1:40 PM, S. P. Molnar wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Problem solved. Many thanks for all that answered my plea for > > assistance. > > And the solution was? ?? ? > > Remember someone will have same/similar problem. >

Re: Force Re-installation

2016-07-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 24 July 2016 16:24:27 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 24/07/2016 à 15:47, Hans a écrit : > > Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016, 09:30:12 schrieb S. P. Molnar: > >> How do I force the re-installation of a file and all of it's > >> dependencies? > > A file or a package ? > > > 1. I would deinstall the

Re: Aptitude Error

2016-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 23 July 2016 14:02:55 Hans wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2016, 08:38:02 schrieb S. P. Molnar: > > I am running v-8.4 and get the following error: > > > > E: The package virtualbox-5.1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find > > an archive for it. > > > > This resulted from my

GIMP mailing lists - was: Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha

2016-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 23 July 2016 10:01:37 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 23 July 2016 02:36:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Very frustrating that > > apparently no one on this list is enough smarter about this that they > > can assist me. > > Is there a GIMP list, and have you t

Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha

2016-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 23 July 2016 02:36:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > I finally gave up on that, > and added a new text box to the picture I was working complaining about > how busted gimp is now and published it on my web page. Couldn't find it. :-( Not that I would have been able to help if I had found it.

Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha

2016-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 23 July 2016 02:36:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > Very frustrating that > apparently no one on this list is enough smarter about this that they > can assist me. Is there a GIMP list, and have you tried it?? Lisi

Re: synaptic package manager error

2016-07-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 20 July 2016 04:27:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > The proper command is: > > sudo dpkg --configure -a OR # dpkg --configure -a or Brian's dpkg --configure -a but become root first. We simply don't know enough. But I would assume the existence of root in Debian if there is no

Re: Internationalisation

2016-07-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 17 July 2016 15:03:32 Mark Fletcher wrote: > which may mean I've failed to install something I need, ibus-anthy?? Lisi

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 July 2016 14:49:30 Curt wrote: > On 2016-07-16, John Hasler wrote: > > Lisi writes: > >> Not quite accurate... > > > > An accurate summary, the point being that it was not a change in > > conversion factor, it was a change in definition. > > She was putting her

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 July 2016 13:21:35 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > Not quite accurate... > > An accurate summary, the point being that it was not a change in > conversion factor, it was a change in definition. While we are quibbling, a) the date you gave was wrong and b) the change in

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 July 2016 04:48:11 John Hasler wrote: > Dennis writes: > > BTW: one inch now equals 2.54 cm *exactly*, in case you haven't been > > keeping up! (Used to be approx 2.54 cm.) This is what I mean by > > arbitrary. Don't like the conversion ratio? Then just change it! > > It wasn't a

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 21:48:32 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > My solution to that is physical access to the computer, actually sitting > > in front of it - login without a password. > > While I don't need a strong password in such a situation, I do want some > password because I don't like it when

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 20:04:32 Don Armstrong wrote: > Considering that I maintain multiple things > which install daemons in Debian And most of us are very grateful. Lisi

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 20:24:18 Brian wrote: > (For those who think this is about password logins in general - it is > not. It is about logging in as root). Thank you, Brian. You come up trumps again. I said that I hadn't understood the question. I did think it was about password logging in

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 19:16:37 Brian wrote: > On Tue 12 Jul 2016 at 18:09:22 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > This was sent to me separately privately as well. I might have answered > > differently on the list, but I am not writing a second reply to the same > > post, so her

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 18:39:29 Erwan David wrote: > Le 12/07/2016 à 19:34, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > My solution to that is physical access to the computer, actually sitting > > in front of it - login without a password. ALL external access, even > > from the neighbouring c

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 18:14:04 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > This is different from what you originally said. By all means discuss > > this general problem with the developers - but please don't single ssh > > out and mess it up for a good many of the rest of us. > > I think we're miscommunicating:

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 17:53:29 mwnx wrote: > > So, you're blaming a perfectly good (and reasonably secure) way of > > remote access, but somehow assume that weak passwords are ok. > > By that logic you should not stop there. Why not blame any remote access > > mechanism that uses PAM for

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
This was sent to me separately privately as well. I might have answered differently on the list, but I am not writing a second reply to the same post, so here is a copy-and-paste of my reply. On Tuesday 12 July 2016 17:45:58 mwnx wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 02:18:58PM +0100, Lisi Re

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 17:26:08 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I mean, yes, I can (and have) cobbled up some hackish way to plug the > holes I was aware of, but I think it would be better to be able to > specifically only allow weak password authentication for some specific > services and then stop

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 14:53:41 Stefan Monnier wrote: > The original use case > was to provide an account to my daughter who was not (yet) able to > remember a strong password.  She wasn't going to use a console > login either. So a corner - and hopefully transitory ;-) - case. Set your system

Re: openssh-server's default config is dangerous

2016-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 13:50:39 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > My question would be... what would be the consequences of changing > those defaults? Or perhaps, of asking the user at package config > time? I *was* asked last time I installed open-ssh*, at installation time, but did not understand the

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 11 July 2016 05:02:42 David Wright wrote: > "Please remember that the greater the "lb" > associated with a paper not always determines that it is a thicker > sheet. Notice that the 67lb Vellum Bristol has a lower gsm than a 65lb > cover because they are two different categories of

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 23:51:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > I've obviously got too many hobbies. No such thing as too many hobbies!! ;-) Lisi

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 23:21:44 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:58:16 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Does the image cover the whole sheet of paper?? > > I can make it pretty close to borderless with another 1 or 2 percentage > points of size increase. I was won

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 19:47:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:26:01 John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > Anything but letter, or maybe legal, is special order on this side > > > of the pond. > > > > Lots of outfits such as OfficeMax claim to stock A3. > >

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
Does the image cover the whole sheet of paper?? On Sunday 10 July 2016 05:09:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 09 July 2016 21:51:52 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, July 09, 2016 07:14:24 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I believe it is. Checking, yes. If that is the correct size, and

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 05:09:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I don't know how easy it is to buy A series paper in the US Gene, you haven't answered this. I would say, about as easy as these pesky non-memorable American sizes are to buy over here!! Lisi

FIXED - I hope!! Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 02 July 2016 01:15:27 Lisi Reisz wrote: > The built in wireless on the Dell Inspiron 9300 suddenly stopped working. > > Having poked around a bit with wicd and network-manager (not > simultaneously), I am checking whether the problem is sudden hardware > failure. I p

Re: Linux has come a long way

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 07:02:42 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > Linux has come a long way! I have been dreading to go wireless on my > desktop for a while. A while ago, the process was like this - grab > drivers from manufacters website, custom compile kernels, read > documentation on how to connect

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 07 July 2016 07:33:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Let's make it (GRUB2) impenetrable boilerplate, then. :-) +1! Lisi

Re: Bash command completion

2016-07-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 06 July 2016 22:52:58 Glenn English wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Charlie Kravetz > > wrote: > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > There should be a set of commands towards the bottom > > of /etc/bash.bashrc to

Re: Browser Flakiness under Jessie -- Why?

2016-07-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 06 July 2016 16:36:56 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> [2016-07-06 16:12 +0100]: > > [...] > > > Or, if you don't care about your configuration files, purge firefox-esr > > in the first place. > > That won't p

Re: Browser Flakiness under Jessie -- Why?

2016-07-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 06 July 2016 15:24:35 Alan McConnell wrote: > > Jessie has moved to FireFox -- have you tried that? > >       Yes.  I have replaced the   iceweasel   that jessie > installed with    firefox-esr .  It doesn't open At All, unless > I run  'firefox-esr --version'

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 16:32:32 David Wright wrote: > I have a suspicion that, at some time in the past, not every kernel's > ipw2200 module has worked properly (even with the firmware apparently > correctly loaded). MIne (or rather, my client's) isn't doing now. We have proved that it can

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 16:02:52 David Wright wrote: > It would be nice to know what the "it" is that chooses that default. > I have a laptop with the same IPW2200 wireless, and it has always > defaulted to eth1 in the same way as Lisi's did. > > If it's a "default", that would imply that there's

Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 15:05:37 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2016 14:54:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 July 2016 09:26:00 Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 23:39:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > status 0 > > > > &

Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 14:54:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2016 09:26:00 Brian wrote: > > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 23:39:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > status 0 > > > > > > bssid=00:8e:f2:8f:58:58 > > > freq=0 > > > ssid=NETG

Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 09:26:00 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 23:39:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > status 0 > > > > bssid=00:8e:f2:8f:58:58 > > freq=0 > > ssid=NETGEAR08 > > id=0 > > mode=station > > pairwise_cipher=CCMP >

??? the manual wireless connection that seemed to work

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
Brian's method seemed to work. My router said that it allowed the card to connect. So why could I not ping??? Lisi

Re: Wheezy to Jessie update problem: packages with bugs

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 21:52:49 Bill Harris wrote: > Gary Dale writes: > > On 04/07/16 03:23 PM, Bill Harris wrote: > >>> The simplest solution would be to reinstall the offending > >>> packages. Apt-get doesn't have that option but aptitude does. I can't > >>> try this at

Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:37:00 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 15:37:42 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 15:16:23 Brian wrote: > > > > It isn't. It is just a short quotation to show the ipw 2200 and the > > DRIVERS=="?*", because it

Re: Guygyyiy g the same time I see you e

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 23:14:49 Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 07/04/2016 04:52 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 20:40:07 Glenn Holmer wrote: > >> Is it sensible to blame spam on the list subscribers? > > > > Who is doing so?? > > > >> I'

Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 23:39:26 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2016 23:36:44 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:37:00 Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 15:37:42 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Monday 04 July 2016 15:16:23 Brian w

Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 23:36:44 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:37:00 Brian wrote: > > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 15:37:42 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Monday 04 July 2016 15:16:23 Brian wrote: > > > > > > It isn't. It is just a

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2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:37:00 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 15:37:42 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 15:16:23 Brian wrote: > > > > It isn't. It is just a short quotation to show the ipw 2200 and the > > DRIVERS=="?*", because it

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 19:58:15 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > > Perhaps you can try with a live ubuntu just to see if it works > > I tried. A screen full of coloured squiggly lines. I tried ctrl-alt F2. > Got a blank screen with

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2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 20:40:07 Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 07/04/2016 12:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 19:37:10 Doug wrote: > >> Is it legal to send encrypted messages over the Internet? > > > > Is it sensible to reply to spam??? > > >

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 21:13:13 deloptes wrote: > Let us know if it helped solve the problem. :-) I am at Royal Mail's mercy!! Thanks for all the patient help. Lisi

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > Perhaps you can try with a live ubuntu just to see if it works I tried. A screen full of coloured squiggly lines. I tried ctrl-alt F2. Got a blank screen with a small horizontal flashing cursor and nothing else. Tried ctrl-alt F7, ctrl-alt

Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 19:32:47 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Thanks for the help.  I either try and make a fool of myself, or learn > nothing. Sorry, again. Punctuation. Try; and make a fool of myself; or don't try, and learn nothing. Lisi

Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 19:00:02 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 18:30:47 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > root@debian-wheezy:/home/sarah# wpa-cli > > bash: wpa-cli: command not found > > Do you think I would deliberately give a command which does not exist? > Try using a

POSSIBLY SOLVED Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 18:43:08 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 17:58:58 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > > > I've been using the ipw2200 for few years on one siemens-fujitsu > > > notebook with out issues. There was f

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2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 19:37:10 Doug wrote: > > Is it legal to send encrypted messages over the Internet? Is it sensible to reply to spam??? Lisi

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:58:58 Lisi Reisz wrote: > # Bring up wireless > # auto wlan0 > # iface eth1 inet dhcp >   #      wpa-ssid NETGEAR08 >    #     wpa-psk dao45eeWcartwheel Bother. Sent in error. I'd better change that fast. :-( I'm going for a cup of tea. :-( Lisi

Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:37:00 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 15:37:42 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 15:16:23 Brian wrote: > > > > It isn't. It is just a short quotation to show the ipw 2200 and the > > DRIVERS=="?*", because it

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 14:20:23 deloptes wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > >> > >> on my one it looks like this > >>

Re: wheezy packages problems

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 14:50:21 Giovanni Gigante wrote: > Hello, > I have a wheezy installation (itself upgraded from previous versions) > that I now want to upgrade to jessie. > I was following the instructions for the preparation to the upgrade to > jessie, and I got this: > > # dpkg --audit >

Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 15:16:23 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 14:53:13 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 02 July 2016 14:07:45 deloptes wrote: > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > Where next? > > > > > > reload wifi kernel modules and get d

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 14:20:23 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > > on my one it looks like this > > # PCI device 0x8086:0x08b1 (iwlwifi) > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",

Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 02 July 2016 14:07:45 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Where next? > > reload wifi kernel modules and get dmesg > > try iwlconfig > > check if you have the appropriate firmware sarah@debian-wheezy:~$ dmesg | grep 2200 [ 11.175897] ipw2200: Inte

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 08:48:46 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 03 July 2016 21:36:58 deloptes wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore > >> > just accepted the interface name I w

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 21:36:58 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore just > > accepted the interface name I was given!  Google here I come again. > > just comment out the eth1 lines from the udev file and re

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 19:59:50 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I have discovered something I find interesting in this, which does not > > seem to be directly in reply to anything that has gone before - so it was > > difficult > > to place it in the thread.

Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 15:05:00 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 July 2016 14:56:07 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 03 July 2016 14:49:44 deloptes wrote: > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > Ah!  That could be part of the problem,but on its home network it has > &g

Re: catastrophe - but how? Aptitude goes mad

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 17:11:43 Wes wrote: > On 2016-06-30, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I ran > > # aptitude install libreoffice-grammarcheck-en-gb > > and aptitude just carried on without asking as is correct when there > > is only one package; but it proceeded to

Re: Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 14:56:07 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 July 2016 14:49:44 deloptes wrote: > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Ah!  That could be part of the problem,but on its home network it has > > > worked fine for several years, and stopped working suddenl

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