Exim's default debian configs have procmail support set up -- and there
are some good examples of using procmail to feed spamassassin out on the
web.
It's more system resource intensive than say getting exim to talk to
spamd, but also nicely portable to other systems you might have that use
hwclock
Haines Brown wrote:
I'm a RedHat refugee, and sometimes I can just transfer things to
debian, and sometimes not.
I have an executable script, time.rc which has:
#! /bin/bash
rdate -s time-b.nist.gov
clock -w
I installed rdate, and that seems to work fine to set the system clock
I am not disputing unix philosophy. I am disputing the if I pipe data
to another program, I am not responsible for what happens non-sense.
It's not nonsense. fetchmail's authors can't be held responsible for
you not configuring your MTA correctly. And they certainly shouldn't
try to check for
for it. Then when you have
users on your systems someday you can forget to announce an MTA change
to them too! ;-)
Nate
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2003-11-05 11:52:37 -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
It's not nonsense. fetchmail's authors can't be held responsible for
you not configuring your MTA correctly
commands. :-)
Catch-22, but you get a feel for it after a while. Especially if you
know how chkrootkit behaves on your favorite kernel/distro after a
fresh load of software.
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www.handhelds.org
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would have to reboot (don't bother) or disable and re-enable swap
(even sillier).
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if you're willing to run testing or unstable for the later
versions of KDE/Gnome.
So most of your arguments about those items will just make people who
know they're available on other distros chuckle. It just makes you look
like you haven't done your homework/research lately.
Nate Duehr, [EMAIL
poster's comment... if realistically the job is always going to be
there, those that have an issue with how it's being done should search
for those who will do it the way they want or do it themselves. Eh?
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The big problem with Corel is their relationship to SCO, who are
actively trying to kill Linux as we all now know it. Of course, they
won't be successful, but who wants to be in bed with the enemy.
What relationship does Corel have
in the future when people think
things are working and they start using the network for other things
besides mail.
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, not because it was designed for email and
the clearest presentation of text possible, but that it was designed to
mimic commercial messages, flyers, and other forms of what we all now
know as spam.
Kmail from KDE supports multiple color quoting.
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is the filesystem and how much does that 49% represent.
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. Admittedly, that's dated too,
but I
didn't find anything on Debian that's newer. The Linux Administration
Handbook has quite a bit on Debian, though, and it's a lot more
recent.
Evi's books are very good. Buy them.
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or not. If F/OSS isn't popular, so what?
Let the guy be a fool - the world loves fools.
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... is a rediculous added
expense they can neither justify nor should they have to. They really
should be able to *DEMAND* decent quality secure software and get it at
this point in the computing timeline.
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you'd like to run their software on a good quality OS!
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On Feb 11, 2004, at 5:42 AM, Katipo wrote:
Hello,
I'm in the throes of developing an open source project collaboration
site.
I'm fairly certain of what else I require, but I have had no experience
with collaboration software.
You should look at GForge. It's packaged for Debian testing/unstable.
On Feb 13, 2004, at 1:03 PM, Fernando R. Fernandes wrote:
Hello, I have a problem about Debian installation in a macintosh
performa 6360.
I have installed the system to run in text mode, but I cant install
graphic model that are into Debian CD. While basic installation, I
couldnt obtain access
On Feb 13, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:15:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:59:25AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
7) are security patch mechanisms convenient for
On Feb 13, 2004, at 7:01 PM, Clive Menzies wrote:
That is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;)
Ooops. (Face is red now.)
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: Package mysql has no installation candidate
mysql-server
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[ Snip Story ]
That's pretty awesome, one of the best stories I've heard in a long
while. Did you end up figuring out who this person is, or not? I would
have had a look through his
Unix System Administration Handbook, Evi Nemeth et. al.
Prentiss-Hall
(And her Linux-specific book is even better.)
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the configuration files...
they were simple enough that I've never needed to do that.
I've found it very useful. Hope that helps.
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Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and
corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of removing
these, once I have established stability with later versions, or is my
first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and editing
Pollywog wrote:
On Monday 06 November 2006 03:47, Kent West wrote:
ChadDavis wrote:
But what's with all the attitude people flash around here.
We're people; people are imperfect.
It's nothing the Debian developers can't fix ;)
... In time for all us users to file many many bug reports
M-L wrote:
I have this in my syslog while downloading the latest updates from Debian?
My computer drops off the modem. the modem is still connected but ppp is not,
the computer doesn't respond to being on the net/
I don't use chat and wonder if the machine is actually breached by intruders?
David A. wrote:
BUT.. There is some sour itchy feelings regarding some plicy/political
stuff and diffrences in opinion. I've also felt debian morale going
down. But my impression is that the huge bulk, the big momentum of
Debian keeps on turning and monving in the right direction. No medium
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
If that is the case, the developers need to rewrite the manual in a way which
is understood by others. The content is probably OK but may need
reorganization. Getting RTFM questions does not always mean that the reader
is/was lazy to search for answers...
Feel
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There's something that's always bothered me -- how many developers write
usable documentation? And how many technical writers are capable of
digging through code and descussions on -devel mailing lists to extract
the information that needs to be written? I suspect
Kevin Mark wrote:
Hi Greg,
I read a blog post which I think can enlighten the 'I googled and found
nothing' issue. The post pointed out that two people google differently
because not all of us have the same 'skill' at it. Thus if you google
and get the answer, it is because you may have more
Nate Bargmann wrote:
As others have alluded to already, this list is subscribed to by many
people from many different walks of life who hold many differing
viewpoints. A great many of these subscribers live in the USA and with
another election cycle in progress a number of people have their
Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 12:33 -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
serious money, serious effort, serious uptime -- similar to the Dilbert
Unix cartoon where the guy with the white hair, suspenders, and a smug
expression says, Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer
rocky wrote:
Hey,
In my Debian sid box I installed apache2, PHP5, libapache-mod-php5
without any problem. But I could not even view the html file saved in
/var/www. Though http://localhost redirects me to
http://localhost/apache2-default/ and the browser says It Works. I've
a2enmod php5 and
Chris Searle wrote:
In the exim4 server log I see
2006-11-08 20:53:42 TLS recv error on connection from
dhcp57.home.chrissearle.org [192.168.1.57]: A TLS fatal alert has been
received.: Bad record MAC
2006-11-08 20:53:42 TLS send error on connection from
dhcp57.home.chrissearle.org
Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2006-10-13 20:40:55, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez:
With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation.
This would be quiet expensive over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS while iMode
and Mailaccess (IMAP/POP3/SMTP) is free at my GSM provider.
So they'll let you
Kelly Clowers wrote:
I forgot about the Java Coffee cup logo, and I can't find any new info
on it.
You also forgot about the little triangle shaped guy that the Java JRE
has included with it. (e.g. Task-tray Java guy logo on Windows machines
that are running the JRE -- or whatever they
Zuliani Alexander wrote:
Is there any way for me to restore the original apache2 configuration files
(/etc/apache2)? I deleted them by accident :-s Maybe someone could tar them
or something?
Um, you could download the appropriate apache2 package for whatever
version of Debian you're running
Ken Irving wrote:
I seem to recall a thread about this a month or two back, where the
position was put forth that the KISS principle would argue for directly
using iptables instead of one of the wrappers, since the poster claimed to
be able to put up a working firewall in 5 or 6 lines vs 10's
Winston Smith wrote:
you're not alone:
http://www.oclug.on.ca/archives/linux/2006-July/000920.html
http://reporter.mozilla.org/app/report/?report_id=RMO11314606252824
One of those pages mentions fiddling with mtu settings. I second that.
I had a problem like yours that I fixed by changing the
Kevin Mark wrote:
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 06:22:22PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Geoffrey R Thompson wrote:
After updating phpmyadmin, I got a dialog box saying there is a conflict
between my config file and the new one being offered. I selected the
`keep my config file' option - hoping
William Jensen wrote:
I'm following Etch and apt is reporting no new packages for a touch over a week.
From past experience I know that this is highly unlikely. Also, a friend runs
nearly the same setup as I have and he is still getting daily updates. Any ideas
what I could check/do?
Make
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Hi,
A killer app is an application that compels one to use a certain
system. On Debian lists, someone mentioned that meld, a GUI diff
utility, was killer. I can't think of any I have because I moved to
GNU/Linux for its said overall magnificence, instead of a
Matthew Krauss wrote:
Nate Duehr wrote:
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Hi,
A killer app is an application that compels one to use a certain
system. On Debian lists, someone mentioned that meld, a GUI diff
utility, was killer. I can't think of any I have because I moved to
GNU/Linux for its said
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 02:30:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
The *real* killer app was Linus' decision to develop Linux openly.
I took a software engineering class where the professor maintained that
the only notable contribution that Linus Torvalds has made to the
Francis Healy wrote:
The classic definition of the killer app is the one program that
justifies the entire cost of the computer.
NICE answer. Wish more people in business would figure that one out.
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On 12/01/06 12:30, Nate Duehr wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 02:30:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
The *real* killer app was Linus' decision to develop Linux openly.
I took a software engineering
John Miller wrote:
After all this mucking around, the file still took 20 minutes to
upload--over our LAN, no less! While the file was being written to the
upload_tmp_dir (/tmp), the php4 process gobbled over 100MB RAM. If this
only happened once a day, we might be able to live with it, but
Ron Johnson wrote:
And has *kept* them working on it, without turning it into a huge
ball of legacy crud, without forking or general worker revolution.
However he does it, he *has* done it, and that is his genius.
Some might argue these days with the ball of legacy crud part. :-)
M-L wrote:
The genius is that Linus got people involved and the allowed it to run without
taking it back or stifling it in any way. As for timing, that's another
genius in itself. So maybe Linus was two geniuses?
Item one isn't genius, it's good people management skills.
Item two: You're
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My assertion: The kernel is more important than the license. Code
trumps license. No code, no need to even use or have a license...
whatever it is.
Code without licence tends not to propagate. Linux wasn't the first
Unix-compatible one to have been written. It
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:52:16PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
Both the GPL *and* commercial licenses are ultimately based on FUD. If
you're scared of the consequences of simply taking some code and using
it as you please and/or the consequences of doing so: You want
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On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:52:16PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My assertion: The kernel is more important than the license. Code
trumps license. No code, no need to even use or have a license...
whatever it is.
Code without licence tends
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Gorgeous stuff... Shouldn't this kind of stuff be posted to some
advocacy site somewhere?
Sure. Why not? Go ahead.
Nate
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John Hasler wrote:
If you give or sell me a copy of a work of yours I own that copy and can do
as I please with it (that includes running it if it is a computer program)
with no need for a license. However, copyright law forbids me to make and
distribute copies of it without your permission.
Douglas Tutty wrote:
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:02:12AM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:52:16PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
I can send you some non-GPL'ed non-Copyrighted code right now. Would
you like some?
You're adding things that simply
Douglas Tutty wrote:
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 03:03:53PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
Thus, copyright in the real world only matters if the author chooses to
exercise it.
Since copywrite exists unless released within a licence, who would want
to open themselves (or their company) to the risk
John Hasler wrote:
Copyright law is what it is, not what we want it to be.
Agreed, but that doesn't require us to pay any attention to it, or give
it more than it deserves.
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Dave Thayer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 03:42:02PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
We're wanting to use one Debian box to play two different audio
streams to two different systems: one playing music-on-hold for our
general telephone system, and one playing tips-and-updates for
of the web interface, etc...
But they're both good options.
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++,
etc... can help here), and generally abuse it and see if it holds
up to the stress.
Welcome to the I've had an important disk fail merit badge club!
(GRIN)
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Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:15:42PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
from the RM bug report:
- The final step in converting a filesystem, reordering the blocks of
the target filesystem, is apparently programmed in a very inefficient
way, and it can take weeks
Francois Duranleau wrote:
On 8/3/07, Brad Sawatzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought he got the errors with the old
kernel (and had for a long time) but they did not trigger a filesystem
check. My hunch was that the 2.6.x IDE driver (or ext3 driver) is handling
with the distro, it's a defect in the
original package. There is a version for FC, which I use,
but not for FC2, the support starts with FC5.
But the original Makefile needs to be fixed.
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experience is that folks that need to get something done, pick a
language and do it. They end up either enjoying writing code and
learn multiple languages over time, or they quit. They don't ask
others to tell them what to do or learn.
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the next boot.
In other words, it's not a bug, it's actually doing something --
something that has to be done. It's a feature. :-)
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Steve Lamb wrote:
Quick, take your one liner, have it traverse an entire directory tree
converting all the wavs (regardless of capitalization) to mp3s, oggs and flac,
sorting all 4 into their own directory trees.
For me I just need to change my small script into a function, wrap it
to try a few and see what they
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Orestes leal wrote:
QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day, the question
it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C programmer to the point to hack
in some
kernel of some system or writing good apps
been
written in both languages by now to do whatever anyone wanted.
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out in public... that's a
completely different story. Again, wireless may not be the correct
technical solution for you.. :-)
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after cup 3-4.
It must be in the AUTHENTICATION section.
man formats things to your particular page size on-screen in most
setups, so referring to things in man pages by page number, is almost
universally -- worthless.
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are you seeing them on,
specifically?
The history of the Ice named versions is here; there's virtually no
difference of any consequence between them and the Mozilla branded
versions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_conflict_between_Debian_and_Mozilla
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to monitor the desktops? Are all of
the servers critical for the business need?
Do you have some url more suitable for reading?
Something that explains the KISS principal, perhaps.
This screams, Over-engineered to me.
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Bret Busby wrote:
The web addresses, or, URL's, that are involved with the unauthorised
untitld windows being opened, vary, from addresses to which I have
previously been, to addresses that I regularly visit, inclusing the two
below, with such addresses being unlikely to involve malicious
Bret Busby wrote:
Before I go purging and reinstalling software, and trying to rebuild
associations (or whatever they are named), like when I click on a link
to a .pdf file and it is opened by a PDF viewer (not Adobe Acrobat -
that is not installable), and then trying to again configure the
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:48:40PM -0700, Steve Lamb
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Nate Duehr wrote:
Perhaps you
might argue that the software should handle it perfectly, but at
that
level of insanity, I certainly don't care
Bret Busby wrote:
I hope that my apology is accepted, and that we can move on.
For what it's worth Bret, I apologize for blowing up on you also.
I won't apologize for being angry at the rest of the folks who dog-piled
on, who still aren't attempting to help you in any way, but had plenty
Steve Lamb wrote:
Nate Duehr wrote:
I didn't start the insults, please look back through the thread. The
original poster gets more and more agitated that people aren't
testing correctly without fully defining his problem from the
beginning.
I did, I started from the beginning
added for packages requested and if no package
needs the dependency anymore, it can remove it.
apt-get isn't that smart.
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find a combination that works properly though, if you
hunt a bit. Don't forget to reset in the shell each time you change
your terminal emulation on your machine you're testing from, if you're
not disconnecting and reconnecting.
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packagename
aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
aptitude remove packagename -- Added benefit, cruft goes away too.
All work just fine... and don't launch the CUI. (Character User
Interface?)
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On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:14:18 -0600
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On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:
[snip]
I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
whereas aptitude is an interactive tool
management tools out
there. Newbies and folks really stuck in the graphic-oriented/desktop
user world may like synaptic better, but for just getting things done
-- aptitude wins hands down, almost all the time.
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not seems to be charging...
That makes sense. USB devices have to request how much power-draw
they want to pull from the host. If you kill the stuff that talks
to USB devices, they can't request power.
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Then how does my USB light get power; surely it doesn't request enough
power to run an LED? I can also charge my Palm with the computer off;
there's nothing running to receive any request.
The USB spec allows a certain amount of power to be sent (below 200 mA I
Richard Lyons wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:41:38AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 06:14:49PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
It works, I can listen to music again, but even if the cable is
pluged it does not seems
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:43 PM, steve wrote:
its not possible to listen and charge an ipod on any platform with the
ipod firmware.
Not true. If I plug my iPod mini into my MacOS X machine, then eject it
in Finder, it will continue to charge but I'll have control again.
while/if I'm thinking about
what to do next and know I need to go to command mode before doing it.
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of the screen. Perhaps you were using nvi or some older
version that doesn't have a visual indication of mode?
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that writes code for free and gives it away -- huge kudos and
bravo!
games:
Real-life... oops... N/A
non-free:
Mac OSX :-)
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messages amount to. No one cares, we all just shake our heads and
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... complaining about something neither one of us can
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all these neat opportunities to try out other
shells, and bash already has the feature that was requested.
Darn(?). :-)
I'm not sure if that makes me happy for bash, or sad that the other
shells won't have been tried, just for fun!
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scanners is unpredictable.' in the
Readme and ship that crap. I need a new Porsche.
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