Re: dselect alternatives
From: Steven Satelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:57:43 +, ricktaylor wrote:
Personally, I'd use kpackage or synaptic in X and dselect in a terminal
{mainly because synaptic and kpackage are easier to read... the
I've always found that unless I stick to one package manager - synaptic at
the moment, they resolve deps differently so while running synaptic
says everything is ok, aptitude says there are unresolved deps, so it
decides I need to remove a bunch of packages, I remember once, dselect
decided I needed to remove nearly the whole damm system, and since I
wasnt actually watching what it was saying I said ok. I've used aptitude
for a while but I prefer synaptic's search capabilities. The only thing
wrong with it is by default I like to view my packages grouped by section,
which I need to set up manually
I don't think I've ever had that happen. If I have a problem I usually switch to
dselect. I just feel like I have more control.
Synaptic on Redhat has a menu entry for the above... I've not used Debian since last
year some time... I don't know what the differences between versions of Synaptic are.
I am going to set up the AMD64 thing real soon... :}
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Re: dselect alternatives
From: Greg Folkert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aptitude, apt-get and dpkg are more than enough to help me out in a command line environ. Actually I do not use any other interfaces for package management. Then... Why are you complaining? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect alternatives
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday apt-get maliciously lunched my install (okay, okay, I was trying to upgrade firestarter even though apt-get told me to file a bug report because it thought the install was impossible... more on that coming up soon). :} I'd think this might have been your first clue... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gallery
From: Thijs Koetsier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are you wasting your time installing Linux, when you could buy a working PC out-of-the-box with Windows, at your local supermarket? I thought those all ran Linspire. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recommendation for digital camera
From: Adam Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 03:40, Chris Metzler wrote:
I don't own a digital camera, unfortunately; so take any advice I may
give with a block-o-salt. But I've seen several people here who *do*
own
digital cameras suggest the purchase of a USB memory card reader. The
idea is that regardless of whether a particular camera is or is not
compatible with the OS, its memory plopped into a reader will be.
This enables you to forget the compatible with Linux restriction,
and make your purchase choice entirely on whether a camera will take
good pictures.
I have a digital camera and I agree with this. I've never bothered to
hook the camera up to try gphoto. I just put the cards in the card
reader and copy the jpg files to my hard drive.
Agreed... you can get them cheap. {$25 or so}
There are even a few motherboards that come with
card reader extensions.
My pc tried to eat my Olympus a few years ago
{serial connect} It's not been connected since.
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Re: Installing a downloaded .deb ?
http://annys.eines.info/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+dpkg Hi, I'm familiar with apt-get install blahblah.deb but having downloaded 'blahblah.deb' how do I now install ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... This message has been brought to you in part by a grant from Columba. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recommendation for digital camera
On Saturday 17 July 2004 09:40, Adam Funk wrote:
I have a digital camera and I agree with this. I've never bothered to
hook the camera up to try gphoto. I just put the cards in the card
reader and copy the jpg files to my hard drive.
Anyway, I have an Olympus C750 (now discontinued, I think). The
Oops. I have a C720.
*only* thing I don't like about it is the crappy wrist strap, but I
believe the models that have superseded it have a proper neck strap.
The C750 is one of the newer models.
I have a C-2500L and a C-2100UZ. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Olympus/
The 2500 is the one that nearly bought it. {Standard Camedia software under Windows}
Maybe I'll give them a shot in linux and see what happens.
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Re: help setting up sound
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS_e-cmi9739_index.htm Michael B. Levy wrote: Folks, I'm having trouble figuring out how to configure my sound card (I'm running Sarge), due to the fact that I can't quite understand the specs of my motherboard. My computer's specs seem to indicate a sound module twice: VIA KT600 + VT8237 Chipset Integrated C-Media CMI9739A 6-channel audio CODEC In any case, the machine doesn't seem to know even what sound card I have. KMix says Unknown when I open it. I installed the alsa packages, and I made sure in the aumixrc file, the volumes weren't muted. Still, no sound. I'd run lspci to see what the chipset is. If it says unknown I'd upgrade my kernel and/or pciutils and/or my entire system to sid, and try again. Once the system reports what type it is, you should be able to use modconf to add the appropriate driver (or use discover). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... This message has been brought to you in part by a grant from Columba. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a downloaded .deb ?
Thanks Rick. I solved it by downloading source but the link comes in very useful as my knowledge of dpkg so far has been very close to zero. Dpkg is a bit easier... I like stuff compiled from source a little better... with Dpkg you can try out stuff a lot easier. :} Believe it or not there's much software that's not included in the standard archives. ... This message has been brought to you in part by a grant from Columba. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [linux-audio-user] Virtual Mixing Desk
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 20:12, R Parker wrote: R Parker wrote: colorful approach : A little square which is white for 0, black for 1, and taking a scale of gray colors for intermediate values. You'd ajust it the same way as a knob, pressing the mouse button and going up/down, or with the mouswheel. I've decided, after much thoughts sheepish grin goes here that I don't like Knobs OR Sliders! How 'bout those little number like they use in high endish graphics programs? ...Where you have a row of numbers that it looks like they pulled out of a slot machine and you can either click on them and enter a new number, use the up and down arrows on the side or click and move your mouse in one direction or the other to change the numbers. I like the idea of mapping the audio frequency to a corresponding color frequency as well... Maybe you could have the numbers or a border around the numbers change color? ... This message has been brought to you in part by a grant from Columba. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [linux-audio-user] Virtual Mixing Desk
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How 'bout those little number like they use in high endish graphics programs?
...Where you have a row of numbers that it looks like they pulled out of a slot
machine and you can either click on them and enter a new number, use the up and
down arrows on the side or click and move your mouse in one direction or the other
to change the numbers.
I like the idea of mapping the audio frequency to a corresponding color frequency
as well... Maybe you could have the numbers or a border around the numbers change
color?
He, yeah, the good old gtk spin button... The problem is there is no
click and move behaviour AFAIK. That'd be great, this requires having
a little button between the up and down arrow, which you press to obtain
the same effect as a knob.
I guess I'm spoiled... I try to do this with everything. {Unfortunately, it doesn't
work with everything} It is a very nice bit of functionality.
But about color scale squares, just imagine how compact it can get : 8
tracks with 4 levels each, that's 32 little square on a gtk drawing
area. I believe white to black would be very efficient, and rolling over
a level or adjusting it, the status bar would get you some numerical
information.
You mean for presets? I'm not quite sure what you mean.
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Re: [linux-audio-user] Virtual Mixing Desk
Stefan,
that sounds almost like blenders slide buttons .
they basically like that (if it doesn't get mangled):
/\
| 0.800 |
\/
you can:
a: click on the edges to change the value step by step (ctrl+click for
larger steps)
b: click and move your mouse to change the value (limitable with ctrl )
c: shift click to enter a value manually
say anything you want about blenders interface but these buttons rock :D
I like Blender's {Combustion's, Jahshaka's} interface. It's pleasant to look at and
hides a huge amount of functionality in a very small space. I like numbers as well...
they give you actual information rather than an arbitrary relative placement on a
slider or an arbitrary 1 through 1o. Knobs are just a pain in general}
I like the outline view settings in Max as well. {Or emacs's customize view...
Stuff you use a lot is on top... other stuff is easy to get to. Short definitions and
examples are right there for you as you navigate through stuff and you have easy
access to several different searches and help formats}
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Re: [linux-audio-user] Mellotron
Ryan,
It's not *impossible* I bet someone with a lot of patience could set
some reasonable loop points. The mellotron is a neat sounding
instrument, I'd be really excited to have digital copies of the original
tape loops. But each of these key presses is about a minute long and
the mellotron has a real dynamic sound so getting a loop that doesn't
sound like a broken record or abrupt buzz will be hard.
It would be nice if you could serve to this from other applications... That way you
could just define a clip or selection on whatever timeline you happen to be using and
send it to the Mellotron emulation for further processing {which you could write back
to the timeline or to disk or simply play in the Mellotron.}
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Re: [linux-audio-user] Virtual Mixing Desk
Olivier,
But about color scale squares, just imagine how compact it can get : 8
tracks with 4 levels each, that's 32 little square on a gtk drawing
area. I believe white to black would be very efficient, and rolling over
a level or adjusting it, the status bar would get you some numerical
information.
You mean for presets? I'm not quite sure what you mean.
I think I've figured out what you mean.
What if you had a larger square with all of the tracks mapped to it... You could
click to insert a level point and slide it across the gradient to set the volume of
some parameter. {a set of frequencies which you could determine in some other box}.
You could map specific frequencies to a specific color and connect all of the dots of
one color together with beziers... {that way you'd actually be changing the volume of
intervening tracks with the bezier {adding points would add specific control.} Maybe
you could drag frequency gridlines from the edges like you do in a vector drawing
program. {Drag them into the square, set the parameters... adjust}
:} Now that I look at this... the gradiant's sort of beside the point. I suppose it
would make a nice indicator.
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RE: dpkg/apt question
we are now going to roll out these changes to all our machines in this complex (30+)
and another 15-20 machines in two satellite offices.
thanks all,
Preston
There are a large number of utility programs just in case you're unaware of them.
Stuff to let you do ongoing package management, etc.
From their listings {Their search engine's down.} Most of these have much
more functionality than the name implies:
apt-move (4.1.21) Move cache of Debian packages into a mirror hierarchy
apt-proxy (1.3.0) Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder
apt-show-source (0.06-3) Shows source-package information
apt-show-versions (0.03) Lists available package versions with distribution
apt-spy (2.3-2) writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests.
apt-utils (0.5.4.0.1 [s390], 0.5.4 [alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel,
powerpc, sparc])
APT utility programs:
usr/bin/apt-extracttemplatesadmin/apt-utils
usr/bin/apt-ftparchive admin/apt-utils
usr/bin/apt-sortpkgsadmin/apt-utils
apt-zip (0.13.2) Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media
dpkg-ftp (1.6.10) Ftp method for dselect.
dpkg-multicd (0.18) Installation methods for multiple binary CDs
dpkg-repack (1.8) puts an unpacked .deb file back together
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Re: Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'
This probably isn't proper form, kosher or even cool... but... It's a quick way around
the problem.
Hit control-c at the screen, run dselect with ftp as the method {set it in the first
dselect screen} and update the system. Alternately, restart the machine, hope it comes
back up and do the upgrade from there.
It may break your system {tho' it's already broken} but it does work {usually... I'm
not making guarantees.}. If the upgrade will work it's a good chance everything will
go fine from there on out.
I always install the base system with apt-get {dselect, whatever ...You can set up the
base system and then just run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade {see the screen for
options}} and use the disks for additional packages. Use disk 1 for the base install,
upgrade to the latest from the 'net and then start installing applications and so
forth. Do it slowly, a package or two at a time, and you should be fine.
But it breaks each time at 'Configuring Locales'. You can select more
locales, but the 'Enter' key will not give an 'accept' - it just sits there.
No key on the keyboard will 'accept', and get me past this.
In fact, after it breaks on the first cycle, the 'Enter' key brings up the
'Help' menu.
This is using disk 1 - the 'vanilla' kernel. I tried it with bf24 to
see if that helps - it didn't.
Can't I get a stock version of Linux to run 'out of the box', with decent
speed? I'm not asking a lot, Web access, email, and a functioning floppy
drive...
It should be easy and speed should be your least concern. What are you running? What
are you installing?
Further, the Debian install doc, which was lovingly detailed up to Chapter
8, breaks down and does not deal with several of the screen options
presented during setup. Including, of course, the 'Configuring Locales'
option, or any way of avoiding it.
Can I scream now, or must I wait?
I'd suggest a little more patience. Debian's a perfectly good system... Make sure you
select debconf in the dselect screen..
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Re: [Csnd] Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'
This probably isn't proper form, kosher or even cool... but... It's a quick way
around the problem.
Sorry about that... I didn't realize this was crossposted to csound.
{Why is this crossposted to sound?}
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Re: Urgent :Dual boot Debian+Mandrake with lilo
Vijaya,
Thanks but i crashed my machine while playing around with lilo.So i am
reinstalling it all over again.
First is mandrake then debian
But i have a doubt while installing debian there is an option make system
bootable
At the end of the install it will offer you the option to add all of your systems to
the boot menu. ...Take the option.
And we get two choices .
Since i have mandrake first and then debian
which option do i chose to write lilo over?( i.e while instlaling debian)
Over write mbr on ./dev/hda or
Write lilo on /dev/hda3 ( where debina is instlaled)
My confugration remains same.
In between , before reinstalling also i treid adding ext3 using modconf but i
couldnot find that fs . so i added it to /etc/modules , after that i gave a
reboot and i got lilo 010101 error:) so i am reinstalling all over.
You need to have the modules installed. Either download them through dselect or
download the kernel source and make the modules. {maybe the kernel} Read the manual.
The easiest way to get Reiser {any} support is simply to format the drive with it
during the install. Let the install do it.
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Desktop
Is there an HTML desktop for linux? That's all I want to run... an HTML desktop {like
active desktop} and a lightweight windowmanager.
Is it possible to imbed Mozilla somehow? Dillo? A plain HTML canvas?
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Re: svg support under Linux
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/ -Original Message- From: John Taber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: svg support under Linux 1) do any of the browsers support SVG or support the Adobe plug-in ? 2) do either gtk or Qt have a canvas that will display SVG ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new to debian
From: Michael B. Levy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1) I was going to copy my old /etc/fstab to the new
installation, but I don't think that will work since
to the best of my knowledge Debian doesn't use
supermount or magicdev. Is this correct? I've never
compiled a kernel before, and the idea of doing so is
a challenge I look forward to overcoming.
Is it right? Why not just edit it?
2) The fstab that the Sarge installer created lists
one of my cd drives three times with different mount
points. Why is this
What are the entries?
3) How do I figure out which /dev item corresponds to
which drive? I have a hdc and hdd. Is hdc the master
and hdd the slave?
Probably.
Type mount
:} Then type mount --help
{What are hda and hdb?}
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Re: dselect alternatives
From: Greg Folkert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apt-get has MUCH MUCH better dependency handling (yes I know about that How's that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect alternatives
From: Greg Folkert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 16:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Greg Folkert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apt-get has MUCH MUCH better dependency handling (yes I know about that
How's that?
Mainly apt-get doesn't screw with things that way dselect does, in its
nearly-prehistoric methods. Like doing things for you, that you
shouldn't without asking Hey, Girl-Pants! Are you really sure you want
to be STUPID?
If you want apt-get|aptitude to act similarly there are options for em,
other wise apt-get|aptitude behave much more friendly.
This is the man page {man apt-get at google} for apt-get, etc.
http://annys.eines.info/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+apt-get
http://annys.eines.info/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+dselect
http://annys.eines.info/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+dpkg
Read the description on the dselect man page.
I've broken installs with any and all of the above mentioned programs. {I've broken
installs with every package manager on debian.} The real point there is that I broke
them.
If you take your time, pay attention to what you're doing, don't try to upgrade a
huge number of packages at once and are just plain careful you don't really have many
problems. {Doing the distribution upgrade thing is arguably safer. ...Those will break
too. They are a little more cut and dried, all of the dependencies are covered, etc...}
Personally, I'd use kpackage or synaptic in X and dselect in a terminal {mainly
because synaptic and kpackage are easier to read... the on-screen information is a
little better organized and so on.}. I think the most important part of the whole
thing is to go at it a few packages at a time and
try to keep things upgraded across the board. It's when you start holding packages or
neglecting to fix broken, low-level stuff that you start to have problems.
What are you thinking dselect does for you that apt-get doesn't?
