Re: -ltermcap option...
On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 10:44:14PM +0100, Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho wrote: I'm trying to compile pine4.02.tar.gz but I can't resolve the following problem: cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE main.o libpico.a -ltermcap -o pico ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory make: *** [pico] Error 1 What should I do !? If I remove -ltermcap option on makefile it still doesn't work ! I already had installed termcap-compat package. -lncurses -- | Live never to be ashamed if Scott K. Ellis | anything you do or say is published [EMAIL PROTECTED] | around the world -- even if what | is published is not true.
Re: non-free software
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, King Lee wrote: May I suggest that you might make a non-free_1 and non-free_2 directory. The non-free_1 directory would contain software for which there is no possible legal liability for the cdrom vendor and cdrom vendors would be encouraged to include. The directory non-free_2 would contain packages with more restrictive licenses.B Everything that is in non-free is there because it has a problematic license. Some stuff prohibits charging for distribution, some only a reasonably copying fee. It's too much effort for someone to look through to decide on. Some of stuff in non-free is, in my opinion, rather basic and cdrom vendors should be encouraged to include it. Especially since other vendors include it with their distribution. Are you volunteering to read all the licenses carefully? I considered that once, but gave up after realizing how poorly a lot of the non-free licences were constructed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). This is Debian we are talking about... ;-) Yes, that is one of the things which caused me to switch from Red Hat. I'm glad to see it still runs in a text VC. Yes, we're still concerned about those without X running (although I must admit that I haven't looked at the test interface in a few months). deity runs both under X11 and text. I have got used to dselect, but Deity is way way better from the current previews. I'll grab a copy and have a look. Are there any known, serious bugs? Well, other than not actually installing packages? :) The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also very close to completion). Scott (note, I just compile the Deity snapshots and haven't actually contributed significant code). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Rick Macdonald wrote: Scott K. Ellis wrote: The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also very close to completion). Scott -- are there screenshots somewhere that we can look at? No screenshots, but there is a snapshot of the program in project/experimental on the archive. I expect we'll get screenshots once we're closer to completion (and someone gets around to it). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 2.0 unstable
On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote: I didn't see any mention of downloading the latest hamm version of libc5 _BEFORE_ you run the script. All that was mentioned was doing a clean install of 1.3.1 and then running the script. I haven't done this yet but have been reading up on it and following the discussion on the devel list.could this be the problem? It is a known bug with the current version of the script that just hasn't been fixed yet. The script is supposed to download libc5 from hamm, but it was left out by mistake. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: where is killall? (hamm)
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Scott K. Ellis wrote: Moved from procps to psutils by the upstream source. psutils is stuck in incoming. I thought that was psmisc (retrieved from incomming last night): [EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):bhmit1$ dpkg -c deb/psmisc_16-1_i386.deb ... -rwxr-xr-x root/root 8956 1998-01-05 21:33 usr/bin/killall I stand corrected. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: where is killall? (hamm)
On 11 Jan 1998, Joerg Plate wrote: 1 dpkg -S killall sysvinit: /usr/man/man8/killall5.8.gz sysvinit: /sbin/killall5 ii sysvinit2.73-2 System-V like init. Maybe another package? Moved from procps to psutils by the upstream source. psutils is stuck in incoming. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape helpers, or replacing /bin/sh
On 6 Jan 1998, Mark Montague wrote: I had the same problem and ended up replacing sh with bash 1.14.5(1), which I had lying around from an old slackware backup or something. I don't think this is a good solution, though. I saw some old discussion claiming that this is a netscape bug, but after further research, I think it's really a bash bug... run from tcsh, the command bash -c '( ( echo foo ) ; echo bar )' produces the expected foo bar output, while bash -c '(( echo foo ) ; echo bar )' says bash: -c: line 1: missing closing `)' for arithmetic expression bash: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;' bash: -c: line 1: `(( echo foo ) ; echo bar )' Under HPUX 9.05 and 10.20, OSF1 v3.0, IRIX 6.3, SunOS 5.5.1, SunOS 4.1.4, and AIX 2.3 (? AIX uname is weird), the command sh -c '(( echo foo ) ; echo bar )' produces foo bar so I think this is a bash bug, and a Debian bug if sh is to be a link to bash. Someone claimed earlier on debian-user that bash's behavior is correct, but it seems like a goal of bash is to be compatible with sh. I don't know what the sh specs say about such things, but this seems to be non-standard with respect to sh on every system I've tried. I'm cc'ing this to gnu.bash.bugs, so I'll mention that Debian GNU linux 1.3.1 exhibits this bug on i386 systems, which is bash v2.00.0(1), according to bash -version. bash v.1.14.5(1) does not have the problem. Of course, it's probably also a bug that this sh code is hard-compiled into netscape, but I think that's secondary. The bug is already known and fixed by bash 2.01, which is provided in the hamm (unstable) section of the Debian archive. However, bash is linked against libc6, so you'll need to read http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/ for tips on how to upgrade. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fetchmail fails with smtp error
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: On my hamm system, fetchmail fails with the following message: bob:vc-2:bobfetchmail fetchmail: 29 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED] reading message 1 (4310 bytes) ..fetchmail: SMTP connect to (null) failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from post.metrolink.net I have installed fetchmail_4.3.4-1.deb, ppp_2.3.2-2.deb, a custom-compiled 2.0.32 kernel, and bash_2.01-5.deb. My .fetchmailrc file is: poll post.metrolink.net proto pop3 user hilliard password mypw smtp localhost I have used this .fetchmailrc file in bo for at least six months with no difficulties. (The man page in hamm lists smtphost instead of smtp; I tried this without effect.) Has anyone encountered this? Does anyone know what is wrong? Yep, the latest smail package messes up if you want it installed in /etc/inetd.conf instead of as a daemon. Uncomment the line in inetd.conf and HUP inetd. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Weird /tmp permission/ownership problem
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Alexander Stavitsky wrote: I'm using relatively current hamm. All of a sudden my /tmp is owned by user 1000, group 1000 permission 755 That led to discovery of unfixed bug with dpkg dpkg-dev (all their files are owned by user/group 1000/1000). But that doesn't explain the mysterious change of ownership/permission of /tmp. I've changed all incorrect files from dpkg/dpkg-dev to root.root Shortly after /tmp went back to permission 755 but now without change in ownership. All of this is really weird. Has anybody else experienced this? Also - how can track down the process that changes /tmp permissions? You did dpkg -x dpkg.deb /tmp didn't you? That's what broke your /tmp permissions, you need to make a subdirectory to extract into, the root of the directory you extract the package into has its permissions changed. This is not a bug but a feature -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote: Yes, I did exactly that: put both packages on the same dpkg --install line (thanks to Scott Ellis for responding within an hour of my original post). Everything installed cleanly and the system works as expected. Next hurdle seems to be installing of the libc6-dev to be able to compile my own kernel in the libc6 enviroment. Does anyone know if kernel-source package that libc6-dev depends on is going to be available this week, or alternatively, can I *safely* force the libc6-dev to install with 2.0.32_2.0.32-1 kernel source? Well, the kernel itself doesn't actually need libc at all (although the makefiles need it to get ready to compile the kernel). In any case, the missing kernel-headers package is stuck in the incoming directory which is mirrored at ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/pub/debian/Incoming (among other places). And forcing the installation with an earlier version of the headers will leave many header files broken when the references they expect don't exist (read /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.debian.gz for the reason). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Yet Another libc5-libc6 question..
On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote: I have spent last hour going thru the mailing list archives and still came out empty-handed: I have installed a base system froma the current base disks from hamm which point to the current bo disks. Those include libc5_5.4.33-6 library. Next step was to try and upgrade to ldso_1.9.6-2.deb. No problem. Trying to upgrade to libc6_2.0.6-2.deb - with no success: it conflicts with any libc5 package less or equal to libc5_5.4.33-7. So, I downloaded libc5_5.4.38-0.1.deb from hamm/oldlibs, but dpkg-deb --info cmd tells me that this package depends on libc6_2.0.6. I use dpkg manually, no dselect as I'm more familiar with dpkg...Dpkg is from the current bo disks for i386 dist. So, which is the right order of upgrading? BTW, I downgraded to libc5_5.4.33-3 from Scott Ellis's ftp site in an attempt to make libc6 not conflicting with it - no success. You'll need to install both libc5 and libc6 from hamm on the same dpkg command line. This will probably also require removing libc5-dev, as well as any packages which depend on it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: reading HOWTO files
On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Catouch wrote: I have had great success, so far installing and configuring my Debian system. However, I cannot access the HOWTO files. They are in /usr/doc/HOWTO and are gz. How can I read them? Thank you. If you've installed less, the 'zless' command will view compressed files. Otherwise, 'zcat file.gz | more' will also work. If you have the less from hamm installed, the lesspipe program provides a way to get less to view compressed files without intervention. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: apache 1.3b3-9 ignores .htaccess
Quick sanity check, does /etc/apache/access.conf have the correct AllowOverride line? On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote: I hate me too posts, but since you asked, me too. I'm using passwd files instead of db files; same problem... On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 01:05:58PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I have just upgraded to apache 1.3b3-9; I have the following .htaccess in one directory: AuthDbGroupFile /etc/apache/groups.db AuthDbUserFile /etc/apache/users.db AuthName staff access AuthType basic Limit GET require group staff /Limit This seems to be ignored! Pages from the directory are served without any authentication at all. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have a copy of the last Debian 1.2.4 package? I don't think I can afford to be running the Debian Apache 1.3 packages on my production system, but I need something better than 1.1.3. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Man Pages -- Section 2?
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, Paul Serice wrote: Where did the Section 2 man pages go? They had been located in the manpages package. They were moved to manpages-dev so that people who don't need the syscall info don't have to install it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo to hamm upgrade
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Randy Edwards wrote: Marcus Brinkmann wrote: http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html Thanks Marcus! One quick question if you don't mind: When installing libc6 in place of libc5, should I force the removal of the essential libc5 package first or force the installation of libc6 in addition to libc5? I'm assuming it's the former, but want to make sure first. Thanks in advance. Neither. If you remove libc5, you will break your system and have to reinstall completely. I repeat, DO NOT FORCE THE REMOVAL OF LIBC5 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Either downgrade to the earlier version of libc5 I list at the end of the howto, or upgrade both libc5 and libc6 from hamm on the same dpkg command line. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect ftp upgrade
On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, PATRICK DAHIROC wrote: I would like to upgrade to libc6 and I tried to do so via dselect ftp, but I can not find the unstable or hamm directory at ftp.debian and dselect just quits on me. Can someone tell me how to upgrade packages via ftp. I am also insearch of an efficient web browser, and I am considering the latest version of Amaya. Is there a .deb binary yet? Any comments on this particular browser is welcomed. Someone else already mentioned my upgrade howto, but seems to have forgotten to tell you where to find it :) http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5 to libc6: purge or install
On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Jameson Burt wrote: This seems the correct approach. So, the libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO should say not just The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 but should also include something like o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc5_5.4.38 from unstable hamm ** o libc6_2.0.4-1 The need for the above appeared to me again today, in my office, when a colleague tried to install Debian Linux. As recommended in the HOWTO, he did not use dselect. However, haveing followed the libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO two times, he is about to try installing Debian Linux for the third time in one day. The first recommended package ldso_1.9.6-2 installed properly. The second package libc6_2.0.5c-0.1 failed to install, responding that dpkg COULD NOT REMOVE libc5! He knew not to use a -force option, so he used a --purge option on libc5. He followed this by again having dpkg install libc6_2.0.6c-0.1. All seemed well, except that the purging of libc5 removed /lib/libreadline.so.2, so he could no longer log on --time to reinstall Debian Linux. I plan on mentioning this when I update the howto over the holidays. I am also going to plaster said howto with large warnings for DO NOT PURGE LIBC5 WHEN UPGRADING. DO NOT USE --force FOR ANY REASON when doing the libc5-libc6 upgrade. (not shouting at you, just at anyone else out there considering it) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Next release of Debian - when?
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Mark Phillips wrote: When is Debian 1.4 coming out officially? I thought Debian was now working on roughly a three month cycle time for new releases - are we giving up on this strategy? Hamm (Debian 2.0) will be released when we're finished with it. It doesn't look like we'll be able to do a release before late January, possibly later. There are several reasons for the lag in development, primarily the fact that all our packages are being converted to use the new libc6 (glibc2) library instead of the old libc5. While it may appear like RedHat is moving faster, we actually have more than twice the number of packages they do. In addition, we're an entirely volunteer force, so we can't muster quite the speed as someone who is being paid to work on their upgrade full-time. You can see our work so far (which is reasonably stable) by checking out the unstable tree on our archives. Please read the howto available at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/ before attempting to install packages from unstable however. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO - purging -dev packages
On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: Section 3. of the Mini-HOWTO says: If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system Please confirm that this does not include dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19.deb, which was installed under Section 2.3. Correct, you don't need to purge dpkg-dev -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: The GIMP problems
Quick suggestion, if you've upgraded GIMP recently, you need to do rm -rf ~/.gimp since the new version of gimp doesn't cope with the files left by the older versions. On Mon, 8 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't draw anything in the gimp. Lines don't show up, using the pencil, brush, or other drawing tools. The spline tool does lines, but when I switch over to pencil or brush, etc., the lines disappear. I get some messages, including ** WARNING **: XGetWindowProperty failed This message I got the first time I tried to start up gimp on this session. Subsequent attempts got these messages (and so on): parsing /home/lex/.gimp/gtkrc parsing /usr/share/gimp/0.99.14/gimprc parsing /home/lex/.gimp/gimprc parsing /home/lex/.gimp/pluginrc Starting extensions: Not enough colors to satisfy requested color cube. Reduced color cube shades from [6 of Red, 6 of Green, 4 of Blue, 24 of Gray] == [5 of Red, 5 of Green, 4 of Bl ue, 24 of Gray] /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. /usr/bin/X11/gimp warning: No brushes available for use with this tool. directory is ok ** ERROR **: sigsegv caught I wasn't running Netscape. I had started emacs between the two invocations of the Gimp. I reinstalled gimp 0.99.14-1 and the gimp-data-extra, gimp-data-min, and gimp-non-free packages of this version. I also installed the up-to-date libgtk1. I am using x11 3.3.1 with a matrox millenium. I have been having some freaky problems with the SVGA server, streaks and lines dancing on the screen. I am now wondering if there is a problem with my X11 installation. Alot of the x11 problems seemed to happen after the first time I started up uxing xdm. The character of the screen is way different (not just colors) when I start up with xdm. Thought these might be related? I am sending to the users list, even thought I am using a pretty nearly completely hamm system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: tar
On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Steve Koop wrote: Just Was wondering how to, or what is the switch to untar a file to overwrite and replace the existing files? No switch required, tar automatically overwrites files when extracting. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: tar
I think so. tar isn't a shell command, so shell parameters shouldn't effect it. On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, George Bonser wrote: Even if someone has noclobber set in their shell? On 07-Dec-97 Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Steve Koop wrote: Just Was wondering how to, or what is the switch to untar a file to overwrite and replace the existing files? No switch required, tar automatically overwrites files when extracting. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Simple Unix utility?
On 5 Dec 1997, Jim Pick wrote: One task I do commonly is monitor my system log files using 'tail -f'. I was wondering if there was a commonly used method for doing the same thing, but filtering it at the same time. For example, I like to view the logs on the LinuxHQ website as they are being generated, but I don't care about gif's and jpeg's, or accesses from my domain. So I end up using something like this (in a wide xterm): $ watch -n 10 'tail -100 /opt/linuxhq/livesite/var/log/access.log | grep -v gif|jpg|jimpick\.com | tail -20 | cut -c1-175' It works - but it obviously isn't the most efficient way of doing this. I was wondering if there was a Unix utility I may have overlooked that does the same sort of thing. I know I could probably write a Perl script to do the same thing - but it seems like a general enough problem that there is probably something that handles it already. Umm, you had the right idea when using tail -f. Try tail -f file | grep pattern -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Simple Unix utility?
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Now I notice that cut seems to buffer everything up. You should file a bug against cut, it should do line buffering when output is a tty. It may be something in the middle of the pipe doing the buffering. Not certain how to handle that case. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: file-rc problem?
On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Darin Johnson wrote: I was installing 1.3.1, and had selected file-rc. It unpacked the files, but when setting them up, I had quite a few packages give warnings/errors in update-rc.d. Was this a bug? If I reinstall without file-rc, then install it by itself later, is it safe to use? The version of file-rc in 1.3.1 is very unusable (and in fact was removed from the latest revision of stable). It is an experimental development package and shouldn't have gotten into stable in the first place. -- | Do not, I beg you, Scott K. Ellis |look for anything behind phenomena. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | They are themselves their own lesson. | -- Goethe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting, updated)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml,v 2.8 1997/10/11 03:02:12 storm Exp $ 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 1.1. Recent Changes: o Note about vthunk change with glibc 2.0.5c. o Seperated bash upgrade from required upgrade. o Note on how to upgrade via dpkg-ftp. o Notes about NIS and libgdbm (perl) issues. o Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions. 1.2. Finding updates The latest version of this Mini-HOWTO should be available in the following locations: o http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html o http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt o http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml o ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt o ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini- HOWTO.html.tar.gz 1.3. Copyright and Disclaimer This Mini-HOWTO is covered by the copyright of and may be further redistibuted under the same terms as other HOWTOs from the LDP. As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 2.2. Upgrading bash While you can install many libc6 package with just ldso and libc6, you will probably want to upgrade a few other packages as well. Since bash-2.01 fixes problems experienced with Netscape and helper applications, it is one of the more likely packages to need updated. However, it is also one of the few packages that is capable of rendering your system useless if upgraded incorrectly. Install the packages below one at a time in exactly the order listed. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade of these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-4 o libreadlineg2_2.1-4 o bash_2.01-2 2.3. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 2.4. Other Possible Conflicts Since perl is used in many package installation scripts, problems with with library upgrades may temporarily break perl, which may break other package installations. To be safe, install the new libgdbm1 and then the new libgdbmg1 packages by hand before upgrading perl. 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns 4.1. Upgrading to libc6_2.0.5c-0.1 Due to a change in the vthunk handling code in libc6 and libg++, you must upgrade to at least libg++272_2.7.2.8-0.1 when upgrading libc6. 4.2. Upgrading bash
Re: update-menus: segmentation faults
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote: update-menus is giving me segmentation faults (core dumped) ... I recently upgraded several programs (dselect wanted to/hamm distribution) and now it doesn't work. Anyone have an idea on what could be wrong? Yes, upgrading libc6 broke libg++272. The new libg++272 should have gotten to the mirrors (or will soon). Upgrade that and it should work again. - -- Scott K. Ellis | The world is its own magic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Shunryu Suzuki -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNDsKrKCk2fENdzpVAQFptQP/dqzPJay/js0XVxiJX5jhRF19nlwr9Nnp OUlMcrG8uRciHBhmf2X+st9U4Tff/F5h8qYbmbEiUmWBhcslTK4ArUN/0lIJ1y6t wu5lrjvKbqk8QsAAl8E1sFKM8OCjnOfPGv31hZEb5nRPjrXw+ZN3r4kO7L5gCr7C z5keUGfsOiw= =7zCU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xcontrib and xproc packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote: I need to install the xproc package for xcontrib, but it requires elf-x11r6lib which is not available.. Where can I find this package or another verion of xproc which doesn't require elf-x11r6lib? The xproc package, as well as several other packages, has an obsolete dependancy on the virtual package elf-x11r6lib. This virtual package used to be provided by xlib6, but it was removed almost a year after it had been announced as obsolete. Installing the package with the - --force-depends option to dpkg will allow you to install it anyway. - -- | Do not, I beg you, Scott K. Ellis |look for anything behind phenomena. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | They are themselves their own lesson. | -- Goethe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNDbc4qCk2fENdzpVAQEbfAP+LFLjo8LV3llD4421ftonw31cmHXZQNR2 316q2Ya3YEl8eHq53lk1qK0AOGZFkaSiJkVcQWxV+iasvwo3UH1fAuENQi3+hNum gmwU0kriH+5la8iy9MAQuFH/kjhmAwEqKxsuR7D1N25vnOCYGa1poZqWeN3F1J9Z N7Woc6xYSpk= =Vn0R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xcontrib and xproc packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote: The xproc package, as well as several other packages, has an obsolete dependancy on the virtual package elf-x11r6lib. This virtual package used to be provided by xlib6, but it was removed almost a year after it had been announced as obsolete. Installing the package with the --force-depends option to dpkg will allow you to install it anyway. If I run force-depends, won't dselect decide that the elf-x11r6lib package no longer exists, therefore uninstalling xproc and xcontrib? Dselect is too much of a helpful tool to give up. dselect will bring up a conflict resolution screen whenever you exit from it complaining about the unresolved dependancy. It should however, leave them selected. You can exit that screen by using 'Q' to tell it to override. - -- Scott K. Ellis | The world is its own magic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Shunryu Suzuki -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNDbtbaCk2fENdzpVAQFgoQP+K7kvB9bTQ/6f8O1nrb51exByLrC7c0x/ akfSPUHtt6/tjyCxWsy+oc3G+UfS3WOYhr9alnOq7TeBG5PM3C/SdtOauYU6tudN GnlO63nTYn1njPJm4j2vgujidDDYWJF4BfeiT88p+f/knydlzMzvxWUBpFrv4TCE IXta21BGyb8= =qYBC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Announcing TIND: This Is Not Dselect
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Ahh yes, found it. The problem is that it depends on xlib6g, which conflicts with xlib6. Is there a bad side to removing xlib6 in favor of xlib6g? Yes, you'll break all your X packages. The proper solution is to upgrade to a version of xlib6 that xlib6g doesn't conflict with. That is also located in unstable. If you haven't upgraded yet, check out my howto at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/ -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Translation Table Syntax Errors?
On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have encountered the same problem. I have downgraded several packages and then re-upgraded them. I have tracked it down to be either xlib6_3.3-6 or xlib6g_3.3-6 that is causing this problem. Downgrading xlib6 to 3.3-4 and downgrading enough packages so that I could remove xlib6g (because it conflicts with xlib6_3.3-4) solved the problem. I have been using xlib6_3.3-5 and xlib6g_3.3-5 without this problem, but I couldn't find these packages anywhere. If anybody knows where I can download xlib6_3.3-5 and/or xlib6g_3.3-5, I could take an even more close look at it. Sorry, but unfortunately, I don't have the -5 version of the libraries. Since I only have a couple of packages that I use which are affected I will wait. I can do without Mosaic and nedit temporarily until things are fixed. This also caused Netscape to crash with bus-error, without even starting. Downgrading to xlib6_3.3-5 cured this totally. If you want all 700k of it, it's still in my backup-mirror-storage-whatever partition. This definatly looks like you've been bit by the same bug I've discovered and reported (xlib6 wasn't linked with '-lc'). A quick mostly-fix of the problem is to make sure that '/usr/lib/libc5-compat' is below '/usr/X11R6/lib' in your /etc/ld.so.conf file and rerun ldconfig. This may temporarily remedy the problem. BTW. Where are (if any) the changelogs for the X packages? -- Scott K. Ellis|The reason angels can fly is that [EMAIL PROTECTED]| they take themselves so lightly. |-- G.K. Chesterson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Motif and libc6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 27 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote: I heard from the lists there is a problem compiling a Motif program with libc6. I have contacted RedHat and they said that they may release their Motif development kit compatible with libc6 very later this year. Meanwhile, is it possible to install libc6 and still able to compile Motif program? Yes, but not by linking them to libc6. You will need to install the altgcc and libc5-altdev packages, as well as the various other '-altdev' packages for the libraries you need (xlib6-altdev, etc.). If you're planning on upgrading (or partially upgrading) to libc6, check out my Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO which I post here about weekly and which can be found at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/ - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCxj1KCk2fENdzpVAQHO0gP/dsFXfVWiuv7NvL1zo+bxtamz24J00ux1 s0PvRKcGaXh4ic1e6BeDBmMvSOYDzl9O1x6H/x2B9PLP97A0/ln+75fr/Ne1KmJE tjGNqkUUAXs0YbNwXCGCNEgXeilD56GXZLQICSRAb8kxc6y8rpCevZrttCc6J8ap /Bi7KSPNCkA= =muNp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dpkg other assorted questions...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, jd? wrote: Also how do i make fvwm2 my default windows manager and how do i add programs to my menus.or where do i find documentation on how to customize X... Default window managers are found in /etc/X11/window-manager. The first one found will be used. For menus, install the menu package and check out the documentation in /usr/doc/menu. Also check out the documentation in /usr/doc/fvwm2 (well /usr/doc/*). one last thinghow do i force my machine to start up to the x windows login box..thanx in advanced. For that you want the documentation in /usr/doc/xbase/debian.README. You want to start xdm on system startup. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCxlnaCk2fENdzpVAQGfDAQAnv2+mRDJxkfe6qGE7Vrs9SgjV339zAHA TYeOlRzK0pNNBCmrvCuo6s40Ui2m1EeguZjLGjZELOlJ33mq07h23ROwQcbPuc6c 74r/LHE0stzRw/030ZjG2Qpm9Wvci7r5TfjhGtTpWumn55UMekY1v7SVLb9F+8Wx oCuspomQiQc= =Rchh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Stable means not-changing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on your machine that depends on libc4. It is my understanding (and experience) that ld.so 1.9, needed for libc6, will not run a.out binaries anyway. Due to popular outcry, ldso still includes support for a.out, although it is unsupported and unmaintained. As far as I know, it works at the moment though. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCsdxaCk2fENdzpVAQFTDQQAhnrpkdvIJLkU72/e7M5dPgr0RdBPhcTo KdZhtVwEVCh7Etzsi0wZoC1r1QKwB0+RXoDvdE3sDxPGeHMSZ4/1oZd+CUyhGR1k p9vgxH/okwsAP8aI4CPW3Gtvguad1RoJ4u+yaZuVRNiEqjKk/nZ0WHyLrHUPf81Q rMskFgxrttI= =I921 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting, updated)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Note that some of the updated material (information about perl and NIS) is very rough, and I should be cleaning up the information in the next draft. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me and I'll try to be more specific. - - begin howto - Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml,v 2.5 1997/09/16 03:31:27 storm Exp $ 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 1.1. Recent Changes: o Notes about NIS and libgdbm (perl) issues. o Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions. o Reorganized slightly and added more information about possible problems. o Moved ldso above libc6, incase they have an ancient ldso. o Raised versions required for bash and libreadline(g)2 to the official maintainer versions to avoid possible version mismatch breakage. o Added a note saying that allowing dselect to upgrade the listed packages might result in an unbootable system. o Added ncurses3.0 to list of packages after realizing that libreadline2 depended on it. This may not be necessary, as everyone should already have ncurses3.0 installed. 1.2. Finding updates The latest version of this Mini-HOWTO in HTML format should be located at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html. The SGML source should also be available as libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml in the same directory. 1.3. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade to these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-4 o libreadlineg2_2.1-4 o bash_2.01-2 2.2. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 2.3. Other Possible Conflicts Since perl is used in many package installation scripts, problems with with library upgrades may temporarily break perl, which may break other package installations. To be safe, install the new libgdbm1 and then the new libgdbm1g packages by hand before upgrading perl. 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns 4.1. Upgrading bash The package bash_2.01-1 requires that you have libreadlineg2_2.1-3 or greater installed. If you install the new bash package before installing the new libreadlineg2, you will break your system. bash_2.01-2 has the appropriate predepends lines, but may not yet be to your mirror. 4.2. /sbin/e2fsck
Re: Upgrade to libc6 ok?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Jim Thomas wrote: I am considering upgrading to libc6, from my debian 1.3.1 distribution. Are there any problems with this, breaks of already installed software etc.? I need to do this as perl-5.004 needs it. The libc5 to libc6 upgrade isn't that hard, although there are a few pitfalls. If you follow the Mini-HOWTO which I just reposted (and which is available at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/), you should have few problems. You will need to manually install several packages before installing perl, including the latest versions of the libgdbm1 and libgdbm1g package from unstable. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCV+ZaCk2fENdzpVAQHU5AP7Bo99AINyFEysKE+sxPk4wuROBIoVZ5sr e+98yNF8XNrGxLv1pOrh3+i96pH8FIstyLVR4a8NnzX7rDgG4EuUCoe9paeGuuzB jJSubSYqaI3uZXj15hUiNAQGE0USrkmiiTwuE5j7AS62xl5svTBPn7ic4RoukRcV iCpcHTj6HKc= =6sUV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: sendmail errors on console
On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: I've been seeing many message pairs of the form: sendmail: /etc/smail/transports: check_path: unknown attribute sendmail: mail moved to /var/spool/smail/error/)xCNcr-0003CsC on my console. It's a bit annoying (I avoid tty1 and work tty2-tty6) and I'd like to make it stop. Can anyone advise me what to do? TIA Yes, fix your smail config, which is what is generating the messages. Running smailconfig as root should allow you do configure it for most common setups And BTW what does IIRC mean? I doubt it's related to Internet Relay Chat. Stands for If I Recall Correctly -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'??
On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, Paul Miller wrote: Help! what debian package provides 'elf-x11r6lib'?? For some reason ftp.debian.org doesn't have the unstable directory.. and dselect decided to uninstall tons of my programs.. :( .. I changed the unstable directory in ftp to hamm/hamm .. I still need that package though. xlib6 used to provide it. It should have been fazed out a long time ago. The latest xlib6 removed the provides, any package that depends on it is broken. I filed a list of bugs when the latest xlib6 hit incoming, you might want to check and file bugs against the packages I missed (I only filed against packages on my system). You should be able to force dselect to leave them installed, a 'Q' when the conflict screen comes up (after making sure they're still selected as installed) should do it. -- Scott K. Ellis|The reason angels can fly is that [EMAIL PROTECTED]| they take themselves so lightly. |-- G.K. Chesterson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A problem compiling Qpopper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote: I can't compile qpopper because it asks a library called *lshadow*. With this, qpopper could recognize shadow passwords (and that's what I want). The debian compiled qpopper can do this, so they have this lib. Where do I find this lib? Is this lib in some package that I can install? Shadow is built into the C library under linux, simply tell it that you have shadow passwords and remove the -lshadow definition from the makefile. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNBXTraCk2fENdzpVAQGe5QQArck4eurD+wE1b1zINcBf8E/AJwXgFRL5 TE4eqWrwDElQ/MP2W1irowAzZmFEftCkOm1TuUjb70yGgMHM39yhizTVFtNDM+0X O/VaWUt677hGKEQnoCNNsvIdpsrQolSnqWcIa35KN96yaJJF6CVOMKr3LtR4jdil AtNj0HcuZ/8= =wSiG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml,v 2.4 1997/08/28 22:02:32 storm Exp $ 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 1.1. Recent Changes: o Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions. o Reorganized slightly and added more information about possible problems. o Moved ldso above libc6, incase they have an ancient ldso. o Raised versions required for bash and libreadline(g)2 to the official maintainer versions to avoid possible version mismatch breakage. o Added a note saying that allowing dselect to upgrade the listed packages might result in an unbootable system. o Added ncurses3.0 to list of packages after realizing that libreadline2 depended on it. This may not be necessary, as everyone should already have ncurses3.0 installed. 1.2. Finding updates The latest version of this Mini-HOWTO in HTML format should be located at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html. The SGML source should also be available as libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml in the same directory. 1.3. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade to these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-4 o libreadlineg2_2.1-4 o bash_2.01-2 2.2. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns 4.1. Upgrading bash The package bash_2.01-1 requires that you have libreadlineg2_2.1-3 or greater installed. If you install the new bash package before installing the new libreadlineg2, you will break your system. bash_2.01-2 has the appropriate predepends lines, but may not yet be to your mirror. 4.2. /sbin/e2fsck The e2fsck program in e2fsprogs_1.10-4 has a bug in it which will cause it to destroy data on partitions above 2GB in size. The version in e2fsprogs_1.10-5 has fixed this bug. IMPORTANT: If you run the older libc6-based e2fsck on a 2 GB or greater partition, YOU WILL LOSE DATA. 4.3. /usr/bin/gencat Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. - -- Scott K. Ellis
Re: libc6 upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 5 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im trying to upgrade to libc6 and following the howto, the problem Im getting is this: Shadow:~# dpkg -B --install libc6_2.0.4-1.deb dpkg: considering removing libc5 in favour of libc6 ... dpkg: no, debianutils is essential, will not deconfigure it in order to enable removal of libc5. dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.4-1.deb containing libc6: libc5 conflicts with libc6 libc6 (version 2.0.4-1) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.4-1.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing libc6 Errors were encountered while processing: libc6_2.0.4-1.deb Okay, what version of libc5 do you have? This shouldn't happen, libc5 and libc6 coexist quite peacefully. Make sure you're using the latest libc5 from bo. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNBDNpaCk2fENdzpVAQFnWQP/VQsq80vtm57E+wWkLpl9pFFQ5M+WCaLH 39l5hHnWTg3wbWPgt9vISF6gzr17mWjJzcPHTI9+CFM697pmKEgR1uspGbAzJadU 6PcvNiyNC6Gtrpic/LITd8Su4cKdwPLL1+LrmPN6MapQkIJ1bJIjAMynBvYTeL6R E6D2eG09VAE= =xd8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape installation problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Dave Neuer wrote: I am trying to install Netscape 3.01 on my Debian system. The machine running debian has no connection to the Internet, so to transfer files to the Debian box, I have to first download them onto my PowerMac, and then transfer them over my local network. The mac doesn't like the name netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz, and so truncates it to netscape-v301-export.x86-unknow. I transfered the file to the Linux box, and then attempted to run the Debian netscape installer, and got the following message: ERROR: The Netscape archive must be in /tmp under the name: /tmp/netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.[gz|Z] Do NOT simply rename the archive of another version in order to force it to install with this package. It will not work. Archive files can be found on ftp.netscape.com. dpkg: error processing netscape (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape Um, rename the archive to what it's expecting. The warning is to make sure you don't try to install a DIFFERENT VERSION of Netscape with this installer package. Correcting a mangled filename can't change anything. - -- |In order to live freely and happily, Scott K. Ellis | you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNAszxaCk2fENdzpVAQHvaAQAg13k7AelwZP+7g3SCJ30gTTvqxqH2hC5 WRErp7lBMU0T560PlpC53OlkhhJ5dFSvIwoMHgO7Z+VgeMBWaH0TAJsBk3/pt71R qOqs+hoRz0KpLbkQ+eHilgZsMh33b4EWJtUxh6IzuPKmZHa/gjwCahwyoAyHV6O9 4zMTZelzkb8= =jTvI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Lost the POP in smail.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Anthony Landreneau wrote: While doing some software upgrades to my debian box I lost the POP3 ability. Tried to reinstall smail, nothing, sendmail, nothing. Eudora will connect to the box, but as it starts to log in it will just hang. Any ideas on what could have happened and were I could look to respovle the situation? I am still getting incoming mail, and the outgoing mail does not seem to be effected in any way, just can't get the mail with an outside reader. All help would be MUCH appreciated. What happened is that the POP3 server was removed from the netstd package since both qpopper and cucipop are far superior. Install one of those packages and you'll get your POP3 server back. - -- Scott K. Ellis|The reason angels can fly is that [EMAIL PROTECTED]| they take themselves so lightly. |-- G.K. Chesterson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNAxZt6Ck2fENdzpVAQHKBAP+Iy5JeZuh9yWzgDO0cUunlQOftJhvIjR1 EK2roQx8jZfra6/PABcFkNaGtRSKjejgbSzMqE+ZeBUqc8DAV4+SpRqKzctXDIDW AE8nbDl2ZqocEospiBIW2Zi2KwuvyYUu8bXfBmEXdmhaViemDLKIxKF1UChIo8iI KMdfieZHxCs= =Ga3B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml,v 2.4 1997/08/28 22:02:32 storm Exp $ 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 1.1. Recent Changes: o Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions. o Reorganized slightly and added more information about possible problems. o Moved ldso above libc6, incase they have an ancient ldso. o Raised versions required for bash and libreadline(g)2 to the official maintainer versions to avoid possible version mismatch breakage. o Added a note saying that allowing dselect to upgrade the listed packages might result in an unbootable system. o Added ncurses3.0 to list of packages after realizing that libreadline2 depended on it. This may not be necessary, as everyone should already have ncurses3.0 installed. 1.2. Finding updates The latest version of this Mini-HOWTO in HTML format should be located at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html. The SGML source should also be available as libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml in the same directory. 1.3. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade to these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-4 o libreadlineg2_2.1-4 o bash_2.01-2 2.2. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns 4.1. Upgrading bash The package bash_2.01-1 requires that you have libreadlineg2_2.1-3 or greater installed. If you install the new bash package before installing the new libreadlineg2, you will break your system. bash_2.01-2 has the appropriate predepends lines, but may not yet be to your mirror. 4.2. /sbin/e2fsck The e2fsck program in e2fsprogs_1.10-4 has a bug in it which will cause it to destroy data on partitions above 2GB in size. The version in e2fsprogs_1.10-5 has fixed this bug. IMPORTANT: If you run the older libc6-based e2fsck on a 2 GB or greater partition, YOU WILL LOSE DATA. 4.3. /usr/bin/gencat Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. - -- Scott K. Ellis
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.1, August 22, 1997 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 1.1. Recent Changes: o Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions. o Reorganized slightly and added more information about possible problems. o Moved ldso above libc6, incase they have an ancient ldso. o Raised versions required for bash and libreadline(g)2 to the official maintainer versions to avoid possible version mismatch breakage. o Added a note saying that allowing dselect to upgrade the listed packages might result in an unbootable system. o Added ncurses3.0 to list of packages after realizing that libreadline2 depended on it. This may not be necessary, as everyone should already have ncurses3.0 installed. 1.2. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade to these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-4 o libreadlineg2_2.1-4 o bash_2.01-2 2.2. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns 4.1. Upgrading bash The package bash_2.01-1 requires that you have libreadlineg2_2.1-3 or greater installed. If you install the new bash package before installing the new libreadlineg2, you will break your system. bash_2.01-2 has the appropriate predepends lines, but may not yet be to your mirror. 4.2. /sbin/e2fsck The e2fsck program in e2fsprogs_1.10-4 has a bug in it which will cause it to destroy data on partitions above 2GB in size. The version in e2fsprogs_1.10-5 has fixed this bug. IMPORTANT: If you run the older libc6-based e2fsck on a 2 GB or greater partition, YOU WILL LOSE DATA. 4.3. /usr/bin/gencat Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. - -- Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNAWWkKCk2fENdzpVAQH1swP/ffZzw213MhQRrqIJxwfjLIErbs4UzVLP
Re: Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Bart Schuller wrote: You might also want to mention perl and libgdbm. I can't tell you exactly what went wrong, but both machines I upgraded had a core-dumping perl. With lots of install scripts written in perl that makes a fine mess. I think the first time perl crashed it was because the old perl couldn't handle the new locale files. The second time was due to a wrong libgdbm-something. I'd be happy to if you can provide me with some details, I haven't experienced that particular problem myself. If you can give me package version numbers (and assuming that the current packages in the archive are broken), I'd be happy to write about it. I've got a spare partition that I don't mind breaking to test stuff, but I need versions and installation order. - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNAWxYqCk2fENdzpVAQEKEgQAnmOwA/pDP0EqD8yOhbJ4Sox0oUsRCb/V Ld6V4fv33HnW45HACmZn0tYzbpRAoU7FpgGtvkU9AHM+JYJDW20I9MPvSLrQTyWH bFDB9LSiALdEDrnFUhX3TdIfMayNmNhq4DxMt447HWJ368wUkl5r45he0k9PMbyf A6XJaYCH/80= =gfdJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Qmail package, where?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Paulo Almeida wrote: I am looking for the qmail package so that I can install it on a debian platform. Unfortunately I was unable to find it so far. Can anyone please tell me where I might find the package. (the complete url would be appreciated) It is available in your local debian mirror at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/qmail* - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNAQ6XqCk2fENdzpVAQFBmwP/aNtMJuuLhXdIzdtSHgdGlF80MFhYM9RK VfIXMMfwK9dgZ0x5qJ7CUmu0MlZldysfR3Je+zVDOqrzq9Xf1AsKUlF8wqO/vD3x DspzRzqkz9QayCP8iTC4kjg+xUrYeHkNU17OT4/NqsKPgaMnNoafs693gsLThUgn wwLS7o+XYxQ= =MoZH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian only like larger businesses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Paul Wade wrote: It's time to face the music. Your Official CD program will not work. After all, if I press 2000 sets tomorrow will you hold the release numbers for another month? Do you have to check in with multiple vendors and get their 'blessing' before 1.3.next is released? If you keep this up, another Debian group will emerge and it will all become very counter-productive. The official CD worked for me, it helped me FINALLY get a CD from a vendor that actually worked the first time around, unlike the last two mistakes from InfoMagic. In fact, now I have 2 of them, the 1.3.0 one from LSL, and the 1.3.1 one from CheapBytes. If you want to start a different Debian-based group and engineer the releases your way, GO AHEAD! I think I echo the sentiment of most of the developers when I say that I'm sick of someone who hasn't put an ounce of work into adding anything into Debian complaining about something this minor. There is nothing stopping you from making an updated CD, the tools even exist to merge all of bo-updates into the main tree and generate new package files. Do that if you wish, but in any case, GO AWAY! - -- |In order to live freely and happily, Scott K. Ellis | you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/2doKCk2fENdzpVAQFyvgP/fAxFo9jhh/w4N7unKivE1v9dvoD++z59 ec5pTP/JXpSQyoNvs1Cz6Nc5yRUrIj3lJ9+ELU1PChC2DaNhtCbad3EDQxFun3qA sXEHRVfRaP1PiyHxgYE/T8d32tQLbt+jSyG96iuoJDceG9YqCcnF6znxnsj4dBrV 16BsfIY71kc= =1zwd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Forking debian-user?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [First off, fix your reply-to address.] On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly as a longstanding kibitzer on this list, it is none of my business. However, I would like nevertheless to point out the following, relevent to recent suggestions that the list splinter into two or more offspring: Over approximately a 12 hour period today, I received debian-user digests containing approximately the following balance of postings: Discussion of debian administrative matters, etc.: 60 posts. Help requests, and responses: 44 posts. The discussions have been lively and interesting, by the way. Flames were (needlessly) thrown. The admin stuff really belonged in debian-devel or debian-policy, no real need to split the group. Just that a certain person decided to start the flamewar in this group and it's a little hard to move without the possibility of being flamed for trying to conceal the discussion. The Debian watchword has been from early on, a system that can be painlessly upgraded. At least twice, this watchword has failed---when a.out moved over to ELF, and when libc5 moved over to libc6. In between these big changes, have been an endless stream of smaller changes. Well, libc5 to libc6 can be fairly painless, although it does require a special procedure. However, the procedure is documented in the Mini-HOWTO which I post here and on debian-devel from time to time. We've done it better than anyone else, is there another distribution you could upgrade past a.out without reinstalling? I think we'll have the best libc6 upgrade procedure too, but since we're the only ones with it public, I really can't tell for sure. - -- |In order to live freely and happily, Scott K. Ellis | you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCUAwUBM/2fbKCk2fENdzpVAQF4egP46ayHNCV45xwz/pfNHAeFcH3FZCrS8t7I yaQ3URt6f0srBJTFqBmS1LFUy0If/XzuPKSDVxQvMsBc9X9TV7o6HKQgJUBKDh1o mjtb99gz6qGYoPjI7i10NsIF0alJlZZDJP7InzR19CcCeBZX1v41CNaNtnJo1uJ2 s3sESpOWZg== =1QL/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting, updated)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.0, August 19, 1997 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 1.1. Recent Changes: o Reorganized slightly and added more information about possible problems. o Moved ldso above libc6, incase they have an ancient ldso. o Raised versions required for bash and libreadline(g)2 to the official maintainer versions to avoid possible version mismatch breakage. o Added a note saying that allowing dselect to upgrade the listed packages might result in an unbootable system. o Added ncurses3.0 to list of packages after realizing that libreadline2 depended on it. This may not be necessary, as everyone should already have ncurses3.0 installed. 1.2. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade to these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-3 o libreadlineg2_2.1-3 o bash_2.01-1 2.2. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns 4.1. Upgrading bash The package bash_2.01-1 requires that you have libreadlineg2_2.1-3 or greater installed. If you install the new bash package before installing the new libreadlineg2, you will break your system. bash_2.01-2 has the appropriate predepends lines, but may not yet be to your mirror. 4.2. /usr/bin/gencat Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. - -- |In order to live freely and happily, Scott K. Ellis | you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/pT9qCk2fENdzpVAQFNggP/XPw2QZ5AU0cGb4sYAy2a1JcaiKPjKzKr xRQcLDI688KtGkBjoZTkkY6BTll+/yyyJBzTV58TuXzibwfjQ3ElNbdXeYI8zppL DF8VYXtJmpLdJ6ieFtlndL+2egKM61ISCT9m686a7DbNLrX0eKGrKydeH2FCiRtl cKBJ9pkOiLM= =WYUb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rl_get_string_value_hook in bash 2.01-1 (unstable) question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Frits Daalmans wrote: I nearly crashed my system today when, after a successfull upgrade to libc6 (according to the mini-HOWTO described in Debian-user) I upgraded from bash 2.01-0.1 to bash 2.01-1. [snipped] My question is: In which library does rl_get_string_value_hook() reside? What does it do? That is a known problem of upgrading your bash to 2.01-1 before upgrading libreadlineg2 to 2.1-3. Version 2.01-2 of bash will have predepends to prevent that from happening. Basically, you need to upgrade libreadlineg2 first. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/nQu6Ck2fENdzpVAQFEFQQAlyJYNr5X1e8cZxCA4uhPOHQZyGiigSBB vO4KrzzUQ82PSNISIjZXwM/LInKnWBlztpY2lrf2NTrTUMolKVcZH0OAoHdoqEdb rEVCSPnD7WB4kGh0/THbYi1Cr6KluWlOC7YSa0T7KFtA0su2ma29oWtzYGU0yIMI 5zn9hikHwPw= =l+1/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FTP Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just switched from slackware to debian linux. In slackware when I typed ftp localhost I could test to see if my ftp connection was working, but in debian I type ftp localhost I get a error message saying connection refused, the same applies to telnet. Also, I only have the base package installed right now. Do I need another package to accept ftp connections? Yes, the netstd package includes all the daemons for ftp, telnet, etc. The base packages are intended to get the system to a state where it is bootable, you should install the required and recommended packages (at least) with dselect. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/e0nKCk2fENdzpVAQGdGgP+NNVkh215ctSiXWxqBLbQMEDi7Jdwb2XS eITOJHmyFqnRwdDhw2cBChXkE0qTnbKAn46zlRUwdAONYdC5o+Sl9y3W00BHLCoK TRfvlxc/mRSVLaDsVsoAZvcgs/mfWCXfduCXcJL5/enpKm8K6/pvxtHSNmMwNtbP fC6MQ0YzTII= =vEY0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote: Scott, I had some problems. Specifically: [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ /bin/bash /bin/bash: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: rl_get_string_value_hook o libc6_2.0.4-1 - check o ldso_1.9.5-1 - check o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3- check o libreadline2_2.1-2.1 - check o libreadlineg2_2.1-2.1 - check o bash_2.01-0.1 - failed in post install from above error I also installed libdl1-dev_1.9.5-1.deb because of an ldconfig error: Okay, I'm pretty much stumped by this problem. I can't manage to get it to reproduce itself. If possible, could you back out those packages to the stable ones (where applicable, remove the others) and try again with the new bash and libreadline packages that were recently uploaded (bash_2.01-2 and libreadline*-4 I think) and see if you have the same problem? If the problem goes away, I'll modify the mini-howto to specify the later versions of the packages. [I'd also appreciate it if someone with better knowledge of the appropriate packages could take a look at this, where is that symbol hiding and what might have broken it?] ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libreadline.so (No such file or directory), skipping [ started after libreadline, fixed after libreadlineg ] ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libhistory.so (No such file or directory), skipping [ same as above ] ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libdl.so (No such file or directory), skipping [ started after ldso I think, probably an earlier problem with my system. It was fixed by installing libdl1-dev ] Those ldconfig warnings are usually a symptom of a package being out of sync with its coresponding '-dev' package. It can be safely ignored until you upgrade the '-dev' package, just don't compile programs with those libs until then. - -- Scott K. Ellis|The reason angels can fly is that [EMAIL PROTECTED]| they take themselves so lightly. |-- G.K. Chesterson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/aEaKCk2fENdzpVAQEg4gQArKmlKQMVHtChlF+i1e1sHa6um59aE2+/ G3IhECVtFUbHV4R1cXJWpnAVyaicJTcNAnnvfTBs5Se+mJNWDQNsoGrnS92eGziO 2+K9UzjFwnKm6zWjBEuBVG+YDJKRop4H1141H/32ZSozj2tr1FPJap37zv9halob taLGrPFvyJk= =wLx/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting, updated)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v1.6, August 17, 1997 Recent Changes: o Moved ldso above libc6, incase they have an ancient ldso. o Raised versions required for bash and libreadline(g)2 to the official maintainer versions to avoid possible version mismatch breakage. o Added a note saying that allowing dselect to upgrade the listed packages might result in an unbootable system. o Added ncurses3.0 to list of packages after realizing that libreadline2 depended on it. This may not be necessary, as everyone should already have ncurses3.0 installed. 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 2. Requirements 2.1. Minimum Requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade to these packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and therefore making your system unusable. o ldso_1.9.5-1 o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-3 o libreadlineg2_2.1-3 o bash_2.01-1 2.2. Other Suggested Packages These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the packages in unstable, but are still very useful. The new dpkg-dev may be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to upgrade your system to the unstable distribution. o libg++272_2.7.2.5-2 o dpkg_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19 o dpkg-ftp_1.4.9 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. 5. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- | You are never given a wish without also Scott K. Ellis |being given the power to make it true. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |You may have to work for it, however. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/csw6Ck2fENdzpVAQFOjwP9FCB2X967RwVrt6sTis3BFJpNN36o9X+v SLT56Cp179FiuM2p+DIRzUxbZEQoLZJMvMe842kpL16hd3iVGcxkG5hyyiNWiZeU CvVYKRqmi3sSP7+MJBCPDxNK6gCGvP0ER5zR4x6o/eOx/6TefKpOBIJA+cNuomi8 gv+TSk/7tvU= =6uh0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ? about Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Ricardo Muggli wrote: Two days or so ago the Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO was posted here. I was wondering if it is okay to 1. use dselect and connect to a local ftp mirror 2. When prompted for Enter space seperated list of distributions to get during setting up the FTP Access Method, enter hamm/hamm 3. update the package list 4. unselect everything that is selected by default 5. select the packages that are listed in the Mini-HOWTO 6. and install My main concern is that each of these packages have many depencies. Should I accept the default dependencies or should I override them so I ONLY install the packages listed in the Mini-HOWTO? The packages listed to be installed are complete to themselves, they need to be installed manually. If you use dselect-ftp to upgrade them, you stand a high risk of breaking bash and making your system unbootable. The list I posted, when installed one-at-a-time in the exact order listed, doesn't mess up your system. I wrote the list after several people encountered problems upgrading. The base problem is with new libreadline packages screwing up if installed in the wrong order. I've run the install as listed on a clean v1.3.1 system and it worked flawlessly. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/YleqCk2fENdzpVAQFVqwP+Nm+DeIPW4lRLnPxUzuxw/L+SVL8KQUy+ IxYsuCoVnhBh/LtRui/LA39GBUkbjWy7rEl37cMEnND9D2Z0ttNkW526mBL4V+hG 1SnrKjUJeSpEiDfs/u4ERZbtbz09G9P0ONoFliK0WwvYgQYrnfeD6dpEyo5bL6bu c893FCeflvE= =2IG6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v1.3, August 14, 1997 1. Introduction The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. 2. Minimum requirements The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable- branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. o libc6_2.0.4-1 o ldso_1.9.5-1 o ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 o libreadline2_2.1-2.1 o libreadlineg2_2.1-2.1 o bash_2.01-0.1 3. Development If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. 4. Concerns Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. 5. Disclaimer As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY. These comments are based on my personal experience and experimentation. While this worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you milage may vary. Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/PGC6Ck2fENdzpVAQFzRwP7Bx5JP0We8k2vBeXS+49kwHKX6K/KPLPC CtGsvae3V628PIS+6dQZlMhU2rNTRNjhTa2SHbzkrefv7kEJMLnJVja8IIlzxr4y 5Yhh0iKvc6S5Cp2tXzCSYQ6piYJg2nhR2sq2b67FmOmPR/0uPAwlYnhyQuplbjGS 4JXjP7055as= =hQzr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: system rescued, some quirks left
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 14 Aug 1997, Martin Steigerwald wrote: One problem is left... some of the new installed packages fail to post-install (dosemu for example) cause the command suidregister or suidunregister is not found, but needed by the script. These commands are actually not here, I tried in a shell. I re-installed all base packages with dpkg and there a no dependency problems anymore. In which package can I find the above two commands? suidmanager Any package that doesn't put the suid(un)register commands in a conditional statement should have a bug report filed against it, although you may want to check that the package in unstable has the bug too before reporting it. - -- | Live never to be ashamed if anything Scott K. Ellis | you do or say is published around the world -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | even if what is published is not true. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/SBWaCk2fENdzpVAQHwVAP/b+8Bb8zL9baE/25b7PEGgDgJK/yEy6qQ Tp1QbD37MvobL4bPFcMmYPVv73BBRtHWXbB9opyjwWgw2Or/E0xSszjYAgZEMklT xa7Wm0NjQ+A+5JK8rOEhqeM3w2LLH9zUK7bHzVK+8HQlNeYY798Ithho75Uv1X11 mO+MyRimxj8= =3mly -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Hamm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Rick Jones wrote: I've been out of the loop for quite a while. How do I install Hamm? When I use debian/hamm for the start point and use hamm non-free contrib for packages I get the packages files but when I tell dselect to fetch it goes looking for a dists/main directory for every file, which it says doesn't exist. This is using the ftp.debian.org site. Use hamm/main hamm/contrib hamm/non-free for your distributions. - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/GzRaCk2fENdzpVAQF2qAP/VSey3I9hNgmjbfNiPTrJXKfXdVBen0io AQ1qImN/dJZqx4JW8r4ZpeBmcmKBKu3QMbdAz889IiMazPUBWE+X+ZF3nDcqW4Ux prEDO8Qtlo3IsgET+JXP0O8+0E2BsGGTKEjszwnRm2phzpeV0aQdMWPb/XqkQq74 Lv7maXkCECg= =FPcU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 128MB of RAM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Dan Dooher wrote: Gang, I'm testing the viability of a Debian Linux server and am having trouble with the OS *seeing* all the RAM. The BIOS checks all 128MB of RAM. But when I run dmesg it reports: $ dmesg |grep Memory Memory: 62740k/65536k available (1004k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1408k data) top also shows only 64MB of RAM. Anybody have any ideas? in /etc/lilo.conf append=mem=128M - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+/GsKCk2fENdzpVAQEsKAQApgeiAiL4ggsIJVnVfuy3pFC6kEJ6Xe/h rJ0B1adBzs0JNb6wBuAFatOcynnskNB6/DzVmQWaSZRBsMgpr/1WfX61wK4QKY0W lU32J0YbQ5yNVN3Ucz+7rQ5gN8QxqCuC8ELsiGkLQpESTNdGj4f7xzjy3qVIl2qt EYm303FVs6Y= =JW6B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Howto run glibc2.0 compiled programs on 1.3.1 system?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Peter Weiss wrote: Is there a safe way to install packages from hamm on a 1.3.1 system, that are linked with libc6? There are some (like gimp and gv) versions where only out-of-time versions exist for 1.3.1. Note that this is a tenative draft of what will most likely become a regular posting on this list as well as debian-devel. If anyone sees any glaring errors, please contact me about them. I'd also like to know if there'd be any interest in me packaging up a tar file with all the relavant packages and a short script to install them in the correct order Debian 1.3.x to Debian-unstable (codename hamm) guide (***DRAFT***) === The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the next release of the Debian system. This version will utilize the new libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many enhancements and brings the linux C library back into sync with the GNU project. We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to utilize your older software by providing development and operating environments for both C libraries. However, all packages in the new release will be linked with the new C library. This has made it slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch of our development tree into a working system. There is a slight possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this guide is intended to help you avoid such problems. The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable-branch packages is below. Install these packages one at a time in exactly the order listed. When versions are mentioned, that is a minimum suggested version, any later version should also be acceptable. libc6_2.0.4-1 ldso_1.9.5-1 libreadline2_2.1-2.1 ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3 libreadlineg2_2.1-2.1 bash_2.01-0.1 If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the -dev packages on your system, the new development system will use packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev' for libc5 development. You will wish to install the latest libc5 package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as well. Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet, check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading. Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have unpredictable results. Note also that both the man-db and the libc6-dev packages currently include /usr/bin/gencat. The version of gencat in libc6-dev has been reported to cause segfault problems with man-db, you may wish to reinstall man-db after libc6-dev if you experience these problems. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/CRfKCk2fENdzpVAQHgwwP8DRgJBTkX56pvHU6klrti6jZZOdY2c6Vo veYHy7lx35Wdcu+20ft09AxohJBPXSf69K8kzFAyw8GYCs/hL3krH15+uhFZscRE 4kkGAfrjqusafItAP5NwCCaaQ3GYdYqV1M6L/USaKDb7eUWaF/8++kvN9U8GaLXw fNI4bzmb0XI= =4v+U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: kernal-package in stable not including config in /boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I see that the Debian `way' of placing kernels is: /vmlinuz - boot/vmlinuz-2.0.30 /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.30 /boot/psdatabase-2.0.30 /boot/psdatabase - /boot/psdatabase-2.0.30 /boot/System.map-2.0.30 Why does my system appear to work fine without copying the System.map file anywhere? What's its purpose? System.map is a map of where various symbols are located in the kernel, useful for lsof and a few other programs. I believe klogd also uses it. What's the purpose of psdatabase? psdatabase used to be used for the 'ps' and related commands and is most likely obsolete now. It has been removed from the latest kernel-package generated kernels. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/CSKqCk2fENdzpVAQHf9wP/RbXWmt3+D84x7B6gFHhdi7h5w7u1RaHM h87+1m2GIQJjus+7POAfkCrkIrLxLz6aF5lKEnEBGnDvmLFmDxCMJYIw8E4uWj9Y GhDE9khrBJ8p4uvq8BOxLqmpIzVJzEbu9U9E2jLHYXKpx6kJjLbVNVARRirB6pmc uu5kCyVmK74= =G6i7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mv directories to new partition; rm directories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Gary L. Dolan wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 1997 at 05:21:23PM -0400, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Gary L. Dolan wrote: When I attempted to remove (as root) an old subdirectory under /usr/local using 'rm -d', I got an Operation not permitted response. The info reference on 'rm' gives the '-d' option. You ABSOLUTLY NEVER want to use the -d option to rm. That will seriously corrupt your filesystem (it deletes the directory inode without deleting the files in the directory). The proper way to remove a directory and its comments is 'rm -rf dirname' Thanks for the information. If this is really a *bad* idea, it ought not to be in the info program as a viable option to rm without some explanation. The man page at least, and I believe the info file, mention that any files in the directory won't be deleted and you should run fsck. The fact that only root is allowed to use that option should also be a tip-off. - -- Scott K. Ellis | Thinking is more interesting than knowing, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | but less interesting than looking. | -- Goethe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+6DjqCk2fENdzpVAQG9QgQAnAdf33Dk7px4ZecmMXFPcl+J65ulO46z D1TAWbea7LYjD0uYu0csIDWjg2LUPrSfy/cerSjs2I2Q0geqWvtVoUpaUJwQG2d2 3l7hPbn+3XiFyo4nz+IIKpqIRiv+mh/gUdK/+39eipXss9QyLejPIpthrHa+XF3w 1+1jDmxnGWU= =s9HO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mv directories to new partition; rm directories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Gary L. Dolan wrote: In doing a bit of experimenting before the big step, I have copied the directory, including permissions, to the new partition (which is presently mounted at /hdb4). I used (cd /source; tar cf - .) | (cd /dest; tar xvfp -) When I attempted to remove (as root) an old subdirectory under /usr/local using 'rm -d', I got an Operation not permitted response. The info reference on 'rm' gives the '-d' option. You ABSOLUTLY NEVER want to use the -d option to rm. That will seriously corrupt your filesystem (it deletes the directory inode without deleting the files in the directory). The proper way to remove a directory and its comments is 'rm -rf dirname' - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+4w1aCk2fENdzpVAQEdzwP+LbhKtf7tIOOfeLXuEVASkF7eKBgjMmlL J73FcIK+1VkUSEVVB4mC8jPF4u/6rfwNmJ9jxnbXaPVEHmC7pfyV66Tu6Pf4y7c+ +SqaUJiIQl+N2lKH8Oom7yjZLctGLm3TJvGrJz9+3yuBle/lE+rY32qBaXybe/Jt d0TWUYiHPfc= =VANx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: File impossible to delete
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Somehow, I got a corrupted file on my system: bash-2.00# ls -l /root/Mail/ total 269488144 c---r- 8240 8224 8224 32, 48 Aug 2 1995 drafts I can't delete it! I just booted the rescue disk and ran `e2fsck -f' on the partition. After it fixed lots of stuff, including /root/Mail/drafts and files in /dev, I thought I'd be okay. After rebooting the file was still there, and still undeletable. What's worse, I looked at /dev and found unsavory things: c---r- 1 1157612589115, 100 Oct 4 1997 MAKEDEV c---r- 1 8224 12320 32, 32 Feb 11 1987 beep c---r- 1 8224 8224 10, 48 Aug 2 1995 watchdog I can't delete those either, in order to restore them using dpkg. Check out chattr, they may have the immutable (+i) bit set. Remove it and you may be able to delete them. - -- |In order to live freely and happily, Scott K. Ellis | you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+te8KCk2fENdzpVAQGqEwP+KIHwPPCaDIdP3yiszeC7vrQWzaba5vQc RR6HpHOi3UhVU519Ic1+DQ3hsKDRpOeV6t1R1k6WruFkOePI6Sah3+me/nvCIK79 iDnffgPw6finSYvH7rPZ98H1kmXbwbvB4xAl/ij6XwpBBCFU/btNi+Xm4CfC+woD UuMQ1tr2nCg= =W63T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A question about debian oficial CDs!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: Can I run the packages in the debian CDs directly from the CD-ROM like in Slackware distribution. No, Debian is too large and diversified to make it practical to build a generic live image on CD, several different packages conflict with each other and couldn't both be installed. However, since Debian is much more granular than Slackware, you can install only what you need. - -- | Do not, I beg you, Scott K. Ellis |look for anything behind phenomena. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | They are themselves their own lesson. | -- Goethe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+lRJ6Ck2fENdzpVAQGcXQP+OmhD0ZyjTX2nd16PBRO2ADtpHze2TEB2 UVGdpwCo6CBcQyC/KI0WFCepWJLB6Ubw7dJb78Bu3T8fkLcgD+tZSC/5Jxrook94 32mh+mXRej2GEn7x3NTefk6XxZxVj+iytGh89jg2QUXO+FqDIArOfm4hMxDGouz/ swHuKiIhHI4= =emlY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /etc/crontab.daily and the security hole in find | xargs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 7 Aug 1997, Jan Vroonhof wrote: I was checking out the files in /etc/crontab.daily and there it says above the standard find old tmp files | xargs rm lines something to the effect of These lines commented out because of the obvious security hole. What security hole? The only one I think I can see would be that xargs actually passes it's command line to the shell without properly escaping the filenames it puts in. Regardless of the nature of the hole: Is this fixed somehwere? The above hole would be fixed by making xargs call rm directly I think. The problem is that there is a race condition involving running a find | xargs rm or similar command on any world-writable directory. A malicious person could construct a extremely long directory path, and then between the time that find passes the name of the path and the time rm gets around to removing the file, replacing some component of the path with a symlink. This provides the potential to remove any file on the system. This isn't changed by makeing find call rm directly, that only shortens the race. The only solution is to come up with a program that never follows syslinks, and checks that the i-node of the file it is removing remains the same. - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+oUt6Ck2fENdzpVAQElTgP+KO5TVrpgZpGoIf+sgQ62kklVfzLiqfha YHSoDkFrqpNeFv6eToMBDSL6p9+ccHQD617aSbf3+Tmh4yWIa7J8zqpZoJ17Xzvp p9JWpkDMhFBTAsEvVilUQEyoNYJhR5eEoVVwfDvDa10fBt/9xI5qQZyC1GkBMDaG /8Ixx+YGbnY= =Lpxh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape plugins don't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, James D. Freels wrote: A dialog box appears with an error message sh: -c: line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token ';' sh: -c: line 1: '((acroread file.pdf);rm file.pdf)' I suspect the wrong shell is loaded, but I haven't a clue how to correct the problem. Anyone else fixed this problem? Established bug in bash-2.00. The solution would be to upgrade to bash-2.01, but that is a libc6-based release available only in unstable, so it will be a little more trouble. Check the archive for postings on installing libc6 and the new libraries required for bash. - -- | You are never given a wish without also Scott K. Ellis |being given the power to make it true. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |You may have to work for it, however. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+avIKCk2fENdzpVAQF9KAQAoVN6HszIJy6YquF8PTd5l+F+TZQ/LqK2 eesVl3kXiUNGSLiAwh13u8qhtUmilX6Jm17Baxf976qRrjOrLA1wzCEMrxGzYCfM YxTxMw6D16jJwYeHttMg+hBuKHvfFxymFiSU4/9Cz58bTy+wGKB2nbczdkRl5Fqj gzQIVz0cUgU= =5hUK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape plugins don't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: Established bug in bash-2.00. The solution would be to upgrade to bash-2.01, but that is a libc6-based release available only in unstable, so it will be a little more trouble. Check the archive for postings on installing libc6 and the new libraries required for bash. Yikes! After my fiasco, I'd be inclined to get the bash sources and compile myself with libc5 on 1.3.1. My best suggestion is to pull the source package from the debian archives and build it from there. It shouldn't be too much trouble to do so. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+dg4qCk2fENdzpVAQE0cQP6A51/t/piGsRDHBBEjdI01y1FdsoPnLHo veOsDYbZanpm/OAOjTZ2Pb4atIx//d6TfIrtzGDpyPGmWDJ/h5enFvNirI5H38Kh 5t6j0m+QTP5nSB3iGt/xyki106Fl89d5pdksvNA0r+3NXNHrTQQ5XJZLquqX+ZDC QedfQY51M6k= =t05C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: newaliases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote: Where do I find the program newaliases? It is part of sendmail, if you have smail installed, you don't need it. It regenerates the /etc/aliases.db file for sendmail, but smail interperates /etc/aliases directly. Simply ignore any instructions telling you to run it. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+YKMqCk2fENdzpVAQHIVwQAsPcLsihRqoKq7jtWSXREjR60Wvdb8prI 2JIDv0jNkji71ygoBCEaaYqx28Xq7s+DH60PdU9K32NCNzSmV+2tzsuqBHHZV/XZ roB4qwecViCaa+A6UaA1bw9Wh2cpT90wFrs3BMOADqJ3pTkWj7lYZT7gOP0dOBar 5XuSSp3/cpY= =tTY5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Easing security on public server.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Chris Brown wrote: I don't want to be too open, but on this machine I would like to loosen the access a bit. One thing that I am aware of is that there are some options during compile of tcpd so that it doesn't worry about DNS. During setup of NFS I learned a bit about the host.allow and host.deny files. I really don't have a good feel for the extent of control that is available thru these files and possibly others. The ALL: PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.deny is what causes the login failure, as it causes tcpwrappers to do a reverse lookup on the connecting IP, and then a forward lookup on the name it gets to make sure that the host isn't trying to DNS spoof. This may be removable, but not if you're doing any kind of hostname-based access. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+YJqaCk2fENdzpVAQGD7wP+KcsJmTerlvbV+uLnNiox4Ud5J684Es8X OWtuYVYsGkGxLSa84TKeWre/hdC659tcOhbaV5CckLuQ5nok6QyiIDNXA2NkQSRa B7GMF33o9tZ2qOfZIFZOJHQGvtqLi5D4G80LUYgt9ix23i6+kHwA0ql91DTFvnjk YlHnrySzCNc= =Jb2A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: sambades_1.9.16p11-1.deb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Oz Dror wrote: Why sambades_1.9.16p11-1.deb is not in ftp.debian.org? Because DES is US export restricted. Look for it on the sites mentioned in README.non-US. - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+XbsKCk2fENdzpVAQH4cwP/R/uCWKBf4GciVGHGmoepzAfne+5bz1gP KcWLyRDpaf1PcdRyBtsGsdJWQHqQZet9LiabbNr1+yCIgE2i+arFWzKv+kLYLLqC iL6zzQLJJgA2GLyZMO4zIgzmuiqDRzy1Gs0FC6hRU924jL2g7VbSAp2es3l6tNv7 Va9CY40+a0M= =u7XK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More problems with unstable/base
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 4 Aug 1997, Dale Martin wrote: I have a raid0 md partition that consists of two 2G partitions striped together. Today, I ran my machine out of virtual memory and it locked up (might be a problem with 2.0.14 and/or SMP) and lo and behold, the filesystem on my striped partition was trashed. What's even worse was that I couldn't make a new filesystem on it! I kept getting _weird_ errors - I was starting to think I had a hardware problem. Anyways, I downgraded from e2fstools version 1.10-4 to 1.10-2, and voila, problem fixed! It looks like version 1.10-4 doesn't like partitions greater than 2G or something. Actually, the problem with e2fstools is known, it is a problem with the llseek implementation in glibc. WARNING TO ALL *** IF YOU HAVE FILESYSTEMS GREATER THAN 2G, DO NOT USE E2FSTOOLS_1.10-4 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BACK OUT TO THE VERSION IN STABLE. - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+Y/RKCk2fENdzpVAQHSEAP/RRj/Zho6PTvE4YFYNKcCuQXsMbMeF3y1 URTswV5+N7Z7wVNGixLTp0f7kFN5Moy9lu3SD+iHGANqLrebZAinnHq4Iewf4OpB TT1bj+Yz1N617ckAeefVQ4NEmVgpgrLYgVbW4zzFEIk4TuwPRFA/kILsxG0RX0+v Mh78eQbt+aY= =V2kt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing the new libreadline and Packages that depend on the old libreadline
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Paul Serice wrote: I'm being careful in installing libreadlineg2. I see where bash depends on the new libreadline. So, I assume it is safe to use bash with the new libreadline; however, I see where netstd still depends on the old libreadline. Will a package like netstd work with the new libreadline, or should I just wait until I see netstd to have an explicit dependency on the new libreadline? What you need to do is install the new libreadline2 and libreadlineg2 packages at the same time, after making sure you also have the latest ldso package. libreadlineg2 only conflicts with older versions of libreadline2, not the one in hamm. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+EqQ6Ck2fENdzpVAQGA9gP/e6DEY8A2O1mi7nB10mUcrKVRU2e7a2TW RklAqq3Vpb5U/7Sdy5RubysQfe8Adth7wMpjms5dUu4NYtWc9QHN2lw2Fdr0vbT0 98WPpAXNPHG+yOlzUhsq9spS9Hd1llqFSs4ohn5JOyZlh4qiMY+8noC1psQtX6Y7 LQZpukuMjMc= =Ztcm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Libc6 Upgrade Howto?
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On 31 Jul 1997, Philip Rangel wrote:
The bash upgrade broke some of the scripts i had, after a while i
found out i had to change this line:
. $BASE || { echo -e \a base file missing; exit 1 }
to
. $BASE || { echo -e \a base file missing; exit 1
}
is there any other known differences between the different versions.
That is a know difference in bash2, the alternate solution would just be
to provide the semicolon at the end of the last statement before the }. I
believe this is a POSIXism
I updated the following packages
ii bash2.0-3 The GNU Bourne Again SHell
ii locales 2.0.4-1Locale data files and utilities.
ii libc6 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time
files)
ii libreadline22.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries,
run-time
ii libreadlineg2 2.1-2.1GNU readline and history libraries,
run-time
when trying to install libc5 5.4.33-5 the postinst-script exits with
an error, the problem seems to be when setting up some of the locales
stuff. After commenting the offending lines
#do_locale fr_BE ISO-8859-1
#do_locale gr_GR ISO-8859-7
#do_locale hr_HR ISO-8859-4
#do_locale iw_IL ISO-8859-8
#do_locale kl_GL ISO-8859-1
#do_locale nl_BE ISO-8859-1
#do_locale ro_RO ISO-8859-1
#do_locale ru_RU ISO-8859-5
i coudlt set up libc5. I know this isn't the right solution
but i found no other way. Maybe sombody can tell me where else to
look.
Known bug with the latest libc5 package, I believe it is a problem with
locales. If you don't need them, don't worry about it, it should clear
itself up with future upgrades.
After this little problems and the fakt that my inet.conf desapeard
the upgrade seems to work, even compiling (libc6) is no problem.
Haven't tried to compile a kernel jet. Any hints?
There was a postinst bug in one package that caused it to eat your
inetd.conf file, grepping for all of the update-inetd commands in the
various postinst scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info and running them should
rebuild your inetd.conf.
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Re: 3Com Vortex freezes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote: I'm using a 3Com Vortex ethernet device on a 10BaseT network: eth0: 3Com 3c595 Vortex 100baseTX at 0xe400, 00:20:af:ed:16:c5, IRQ 12 Internal config register is 101001b, transceivers 0xe10a. 64K word-wide RAM 3:1 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/10baseT interface. 3c59x.c:v0.25 5/17/96 [EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like that this card freezes the network i/o after a couple of days eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status e011. Disabling functions (78ee) Is there any way to get around with it? Or having the computer automatically reboot when this happens? Known problem with the older drivers, try getting the latest driver from http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/ (look for network drivers and Vortex, I've forgotten the exact page). As for clearing the condition, you could have a cron task that watches the syslog files, and reboots the machine when the message appears. I understand that if you load the driver as a module, ifconfig eth0 down ; rmmod 3c59x ; sleep 5 ; insmod 3c59x ; ifconfig eth0 up ; route clears the problem. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM+JSO6Ck2fENdzpVAQGRmAP+O0xMYNV1iEmtwwjRoZe/4wfifh90nh+j XYikncTV6moxVwIr0dqfzMRSmFje+AFl0NKJMP27SSy0dnS7bR5k3KjtwAXE4Wnk cLdQZmGeqq4h7riwBFeY1sHMA4QkalxR2474l4hnzbvzvMvBhRmdDGzs0+76ZFqy thqfKBl1REk= =TyZD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Libc6 Upgrade Howto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Steve Phillips wrote: Is there a HOWTO on howto upgrade from 1.3.x to unstable with libc6? I'm the new maintainer for uudeview and now have a machine available to run as a developement machine. I tried to upgrade to unstable with dselect, first upgrading dpkg, but just ran into a maze of dependicies that left my machine a mess. I had to re-install 1.3.1 on it. Okay, a few tricks I can think of first off. 1) Use dselect to purge all of the -dev packages on your system, they will all need to be replaced with libc6 based packages, most likely included in hamm. Getting rid of the bo -dev packages will solve a majority of your dependancy problems. 2) Manually retrieve and install the latest libc6 package. This will save a lot of headaches in trying to install all the new libc6 based stuff. 3) Manually retrive the latest bash, libreadline2, and libreadlineg2 packages. Install all of them on one dpkg command line. Most of the rest of the packages should upgrade with no problem. You may want to install altgcc and the various -altdev packages if you wish to continue to compile libc5 based programs. Library packages with g at the end of their names are the libc6 linked libraries, if libraries are linked with a different version of libc than the program they're linked to, strange problems may develop. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM960iaCk2fENdzpVAQHdbwQAq4MKog8jxBRPisyaQkv9b4vtcTGZQuMi 2Uyxfq50Z3YRuG41WqhI07KpPL+mRMgE0mCEwQCt2F6c1WiVvP2pKGydk5Ghw01q tiEux2roJwAGm948RaUR+Y4Ao2f0FyON9PwExuipow0BUuWZK3jfmNxpYfGDahob dYEm9pjuBI8= =t1m9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: atd - at daemon?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 28 Jul 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote: just for curiosity: in Debian versions prior to 1.3 there was not at daemon (atd). After I upgraded to 1.3 there is an atd process hanging around. Does anyone know why? I guess at processing was done by crond in previous version, why did it change? Before, cron was set to call atrun every 1 or 5 minutes, forcing disk reads and basically making any power-management functions useless without disabling at. Now atd can cache its state, and doesn't need to read the drive (changing an atime stamp) every minute, so disks can cycle down. If you aren't running any at tasks, atd will get itself swapped out and stay there in any memory crunch. - -- | Live never to be ashamed if anything Scott K. Ellis | you do or say is published around the world -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | even if what is published is not true. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM91BPqCk2fENdzpVAQGkowQAplMyVdvhaRKIgENVOKlZo4UfPLkIAB83 Y8EEKoXTiCObCbbHw9CucJI0C3mhH+8L3l6c11Zd9XHI5L9hvfPcwpgNEnd6Dn3k 6Dvsq3+ri3s0o+yuEFLpfmREnY0mDDrGBRZPnDM/De+mg8W6oKmI6u5QotXJ3A4b KVb89H5I97o= =NR9m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: compiling apache 1.2.1 - where is -lcrypt??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Amos Shapira wrote: I'm trying to build Apache 1.2.1 as a debian package based on the .diff.gz found in project/experimental, and the compilation process (./debian/rules build as root) bombs because the loader can't find a library for -lcrypt used when linking htpasswd. Could someone please point me to the package which contains this library? I'm outside the U.S. and can't find anything which mentions this in the non-US sites. IIRC, libcrypt was seperated out of libc6, but is integral to libc5. If you're compiling for libc5, just remove the -lcrypt from the link command. - -- Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9twCaCk2fENdzpVAQGNjwP9EbXOnbQ67hfidi45tTrrnrnG+VMokXQu aZuqgnd3Qo/gB6ndnpKWli54g/5EsZDDqxx4LWuFxat3rJgnH/10nG8w/su6PC7V aRogA4jbr/8RVnBOe1kfU4UEah9kcAaNg7sFvRTRzv4Z5TR2m4nEaX8ISuQ94UY6 jtePgjMe1wo= =O4en -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Removing packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Vitor Beires Nogueira wrote: dpkg --purge --force-depends babel latex I get these errors: /var/lib/dpkg/info/latex.prerm: install-fmt-base: command not found /var/lib/dpkg/info/babel.postrm: install-fmt-base: command not found Already searched for this utility and doesn't seem to be anywhere. install-fmt-base was in one of the other old TeX packages, the easiest solution for this problem is to symlink /usr/bin/install-fmt-base to /bin/true, run the dpkg --purge command, then delete the symlink. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9lqfKCk2fENdzpVAQF8TAP/Z44UIOPO8VfPrcHHhI/okud/mnVaiQ47 DK1sjkEN+8HP2W2KaRjzQuYPy2VACrDpSla/TceGxVL6y/0N8Pnldu0AtBtm59oF WAKrfBNsI0waWgp7VUXvDcTCKjcV4ZqUYLJymupp/yL64o1NRtZ6YZIHfhLHXdbx zTrhAbD3NmU= =Mbfd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: update-menues 1.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Adrian Bridgett wrote: It looks like it is trying to execute /usr/lib/menu/fvwm95. How comes? It has execute permission on, do chmod -x /usr/lib/menu/fvwm95 I had this problem with one of my packages - maybe menu should be written so that it this will not happen if a file has execute permission. Actually, this is a new FEATURE in menu, to allow a program to generate a menu file to be used. However, this exposed bugs in a few packages with execute permissions on their menu files, change the permissions, and check to see if a bug has been filed against them for it. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9lu46Ck2fENdzpVAQHSMwP/dgGCR8fTK5RA9HoOkeaYmQpHDZxyr3jn SJ0fhth/dR1ijVnxK+37iE1BrLczmTxIipTEe+kjHI28+ix4jSy4swNwJc907NQm W8ByRfCnF3jFlslElv/aUloYaxVUuDtgOBJGb7PpG444LMQyopXlALmTszIsBVVH ACAbnOcctms= =Ne3y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smartlist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, dada wrote: Hi..I installed Smarlist and I create and list called test (as is explain in Quick Start file).The last step in this process must be execute newaliases...but when I doing the shell answer me that command not found...why? I have intalled Smail and when I don't see newaliases in nowhere. Where's new aliases? Is it in Sendmail pakage? (I hate sendmail...too much tricy to me). smail doesn't require the newaliases command to be run when updating the alias file. Just skip the last step. Technically, the Debian policy for MTAs requires that the command be provided, even if it is a no-op, but smail has a bug in that regard. This has already been reported to the maintainer. - -- | You are never given a wish without also Scott K. Ellis |being given the power to make it true. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |You may have to work for it, however. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9yj9qCk2fENdzpVAQGK6QP/fewjTiUe1rkK2Me3QdwhypJJdsCP04VP z5DX8KsBFV/4VCn46fQZ38V87D6yYsg9QM0c4np5aQso0rCDBCw5e+SzCE3eFBbF XDSJnPW1kX1qnmI35dHlc7ZvQi7LCYbXHDf8TvUL0GD/b2foUg558eUyZXyV9RoW nb0iVQe6Aqk= =LJ8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libreadlineg2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Paul Serice wrote: The nifty search feature doesn't know where libreadlineg2 is, and neither do I. Would someone mind letting me know where to look? Also, I'm curious about the trailing g. What should it be telling me? libreadlineg2 is hiding in the Incoming directory of our ftp server, where it should make its way out once our archive maintainer catches up after his vacation. The g suffix on many new library packages is an indication that they are linked with libc6 (glibc2) instead of libc5. We are working on migrating to libc6 for Debian 2.0, while also assuring backwards compatibility and hopefully providing both libc5 and libc6 development environments. - -- | You are never given a wish without also Scott K. Ellis |being given the power to make it true. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |You may have to work for it, however. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9dgLKCk2fENdzpVAQH0FQP/TgH8KmOAt2hrlz4dHDdo02qvQJ0fvtuH 5CasqWSMkjm1wdLpNmIW4lIC3uA2TDbEE7KVq18l3XFwcPQ3Y8QEB5XPddAzTISo Hz6YV9q/wJQ8j1AjgfABwl7CjeUnif3kuVD0902M7eF1vz1nmO8AqPviVnoZ8qYp u2FdK03hHJ0= =MSHe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Uh oh! After dselect installed the new kernel... the system does not boot...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, David M wrote: Guess what? I used dselect to install a few (well quite a few) packages including the kernel sources and utilities. As it requested me to compile the new 2.0.30 kernel I replied yes. All went ok till I rebooted! Now just as I get to the lilo prompt all I get is 01 01 01 01 for ever and ever, nonstop. I guess I'll have to revert back to the old kernel. I have some idea on how to do that but I would like some expert advise so that I don't damage the system even more ;) I would say that changing the symlinks to point to boot/the old kernel should work... right? Your problem is most likely that you didn't rerun lilo when replacing the kernel. Lilo needs run everytime you change a kernel image. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9eUXKCk2fENdzpVAQE6BAQAn6GFFgf+qP52+jgrkexz4gW/5+QyoTas c/3noIxAEhjf6LR6UNm/NGvUH+obuqd50VlfeecSfvGnwjlsbG095cVf3HAJ0N7x dNHIqtOgAksUf3V2cNELkg0/q48T1u1ThGRQzni3OPdrQCxkeUWX4P477ZY0LKyG AgZd7HyzIHQ= =Vxmi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Question on libc5 5.4.33-5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, G. Kapetanios wrote: I am trynig to upgrade my libc5 to 5.4.33-5 from unstable When I do dpkg it tries to replace libc5-dev with libc5-altdev . However stuff dependes on libc5-dev and dpkg doesn't know that libc5-altdev contains the same stuff as libc5-dev . So it crushes I tried to remove anything that dependes on libc5-dev before changing to libc5-altdev but but I get an unspecifief post-installation error when I try to replace libc5-5.23 with libc5-33.3-5 The thing is, libc5-altdev DOESN'T contain exactly the same information as libc5-dev, it is a seperate package and all the include information and such is in a new tree. This is due to our migration of the next release of Debian to the new libc6 (glibc2), while preserving the capability to continue to compile and develop libc5 stuff as well. Unfortunatly, librarys that were compiled with libc5 may be subtly incompatible with libc6. Basically, the upgrade to the development set of unstable requires you to remove all of your old dev packages and replace them. I'd suggest you read debian-devel or its archives for further information. Also note that we aren't completely finished migrating the libraries, so if you use some estoric libraries, you may have to wait. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9eUF6Ck2fENdzpVAQGSdQQAjQDUeYcl22Y5L2gvx84Sqf40iBMSMMPw uFUpD1OKMODHrhAVP3yknr2I4PepRsehUNxqCDuVvU32/TqsqWHmcmIGpZ2fZLFV UhkEyPJ+e+goBU8GVoVu2igYjbH6Dc00FSIEEyX/yIqBaLINFOGqBwhD9z0yheWN 5o88VXlvkQE= =O8UU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: naming convention question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 22 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buddha Buck writes: Thus there are two good reasons why the distribution _name_ (be it rex or bo or unreleased-1.3) shouldn't change. Nor did I suggest that it should. Because of that, it is good to choose names that don't reflect the release status of the distribution. But why is it good to choose names that don't reflect *anything*? They do, they are the codename for the version, similar to the codenames that Microsoft or IBM use for their new products under development. The sequence (buzz, rex, bo, hamm) follows names of characters in the Pixar animated movie, Toy Story. There was some brief discussion of calling Debian 2.0 woody, after the main character of the movie, but we quickly realized the possible unwanted confusion that would result. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9YphKCk2fENdzpVAQEA2QP/aoYYRkQZgWe7LO5bu/vAzvEhIcZpw5vo KCetbg9KF/4XO2Rf3thP8CNNffj9aXZ+3V35wPWYyrSpTGvkhjf39bmSH8U/N2jA +sxASLnHpP5edEu1sR90F8HoJvosXA7u0fzHeHocAjwOdiEi/RVbozZwPbvLDagW tX/VOPFO9G4= =0VRe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Gcc errors while compiling 3com updated driver 3c59x.c
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: W Paul Mills wrote: Actually mine *is* a 3c905. Like I say, it works great and I haven't patched the kernel. I just use the 2.0.30 kernel-source package. You didn't, but Debian did. The kernel-source package replaces the 3c59x.c file with a slightly more recent one from the author that works under reasonable network load. If you have exceptionally high load, especially with 100baseT networking, the driver can lock up under stress and you should check out the author's site for a more recent driver which should fix it. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9YnqqCk2fENdzpVAQGVxwP/fvP/4Uo9BXE/JFQOWU5p13R0yI5BpjTm HdY1uNMwrDdbLG9Aoqu8iYBsqGCIuMSTNPi9o69wawlBxIUn4c61FDQlfoO5tRps c930qCgSuA20tInfxbW5IjwftANeA/6MQv0KPxT9bE7ZXing8HD3ru54CB5uckIg upRkb4RBdEI= =mWpX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: StarOffice3.1 and libc5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote: At 09:19 AM 7/23/97 +0200, you wrote: I have a Debian 1.3.1 system with libc5.4.33 installed: Package : libc5 Why do you think there is no package with libc5.4. 5.4.4 ? Well... I thought a version 5.4.33 would be less than 5.4.4... Is this not correct? If not, could someone set me straight on this? The numbers increment after each dot sequencially, therefore 5.4.10 would be after 5.4.9, and 5.4.33 is the latest release version of libc5. - -- |If you will practice being fictional for a while, Scott K. Ellis|you will understand that fictional [EMAIL PROTECTED]| characters are sometimes more real than |people with bodies and heartbeats. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9YqAKCk2fENdzpVAQFzQAP/T9rvaQrpaG/CECstHy2RLk07XiSfEITS kGxfxpz3N+RzhLfV9sgaAPY/+kOPHrptnIU+8Ov/Rws9+sbh9me2QqV7TLtqyMP/ jRxOe0Tzaz4670q81Z9SSfNb3B8ReauNjHqcGqBOj3qc5nGDJzDJe+CGIYe5t9J4 FIsQ4Mut0pI= =6ycO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: changing dpkg depends/tcl7.6-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote: There are many packages which depend on libc5-dev. In the hamm version libc5-dev was changed to libc5-altdev to work around conflicts w/ libc6... How can I change some of the packages (such as tcl7.6-dev) which depend on libc5-dev to libc5-dev | libc5-altdev? or are there tcl7.6-dev/tk4.2-dev packages for libc6-dev? Basically, you need to wait for the libc6 versions of those packages and those development libraries. Packages linked with libc6 also need all their support libs linked with libc6, or strange things will happen. We (the developers) are working on getting libc6 versions of all the libraries put out as soon as possible, but that is why we have unstable. If you really need to develop for stuff not yet available for libc6, I'd suggest backing out all the libc6-dev packages, and installing the older libc5 stuff on hold until we finish shaking down libc6 support. - -- | The bond that links your true family is not Scott K. Ellis | one of blood, but of respect and joy in each [EMAIL PROTECTED] | other's life. Rarely do members of one | family grow up under the same roof. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM9DPaqCk2fENdzpVAQG9EgQAq9e0F5KQqOaiq8qtRCh9yr0PnKmGgE7I OTYaxXwepiCuXU7u/GTdb+FGTouCCzxFHgBbPXwieBJCpEDPMYH5j1ZdvJpKHOyg MIfScE4strO0oevJqlKZNdGwe53N2WGc6SP2PiAo/akrCS1gKvxKs0DtL0hU7wrK GuE2/cm+oq4= =cNWL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: compiling ftools on debian machine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Debian email wrote: I have tried changing -ltermcap to -lncurses, but get: ld: cannot open -lncurses: No such file or directory Quick check, do you have the ncurses-dev package installed? - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM896/aCk2fENdzpVAQEgYwQArFgsQd1Vz/YheyFI5OaYdcBZpKazFVYq Us86STa/24CwAk6aqNaF1ldvtOzLMA0ZXvgDON+xEPVgFVaaGRqTQX1UDdF1XKPV 8UGv9dtyD4t0y9jraVslFYLNJf3plNCO6b1TYNyJV37LxqjYs23z/3gC/MSR1wZN 57d9RwJr8Ng= =qXpb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cua vs ttyS and diald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Alan Hyde wrote: If I understand these device details correctly, the ttyS devices are setup for incoming calls (denoted by the 4) and the cua devices for outgoing calls (denoted by the 5). I don't have any ttyS0 device. Therefore how do I setup a ttyS0 device for dialing out? Also should I change the setup for the existing ttyS devices? You don't need to make any changes, the values are correct. The cua devices exist for compatibility reasons, and are considered obsolete. They were around before a good locking scheme was developed for the ttyS devices, simply use the ttyS devices instead of the cua ones. - -- |Your friends will know you better in the Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM897i6Ck2fENdzpVAQHKmgQAqdavPl2SYOwJ4odTEBp7MKDcsyaxqJxv uVxKj4YD6bssVijtbuKIhjGJ649q/BUox+T6ddizNOHfrKVG5dXk746qsakfeWfd o+pbpxlkEeFUNdSvdApxXoceFFIpaeBFuMuttZwqLSvoGb4TFsZJYE+0vfMHdrZ5 4/A+x2zyqyE= =bh/c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Anacron/Cron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: Now that anacron is taking over the daily, weekly and monthly cron jobs, can I safely remove cron, or is it required for other system functions? I wouldn't particuarly recomend removing cron. Most of the time it is sitting blocked and gets paged out anyway. smail uses cron to run its mail que. And it is useful for running tasks every x/minutes or whatever. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM8rD+KCk2fENdzpVAQGNkQP/QTqyOzAEx7uEivuTTNBoSe2e1ny3FonY 1lUhFXQbNQpAeVz5hu7N5ryBLAKS7w1PzrnAuhvJ7mEvQKnBo+HIndDxSaifPz2u g3i/qp7goS7MxuPZwh6Tpu0C1atKBS3/CI4pfTzrgi7r3x4iutoz0q1egNKOKU1l Hac1d74wVoQ= =KuMy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: man pages, etc.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, larry ives wrote: I just used the Debian installation for linux and it was a pleasure = compared to slackware! There are a couple of things that don't work = however. I can't seem to execute a man page session. When I look for the man = executable I can't find it, all though I do have some gziped man pages. The file command doesn't seem to be present either. Can anyone help = me? Those commands are located in the man-db and file packages respectively. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM8rEiaCk2fENdzpVAQFPtQQApmmWHA/By/HjL+MQpJHG2hLOEevikWdA ulKgSBldtSAZUmiiujWdyQRVd9zh2KC/NLoFaX4lJo+jZ7TbpyUz/W5CyyKvOMM1 U/7TTHaaaCi8icVsBABpy+z3Ef0L9JVx4HFiicN/a8KN4LEmXfz0uz47pJuFI2ng tckuZhhaQZ0= =5cCA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: man permissions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote: After installing 1.3, man failed to work for ordinary users: man bash man: can't create a temporary filename: No such file or directory The permissions on /tmp were: drwxr-xr-t 4 root root 1024 Jun 25 16:47 tmp so I changed them to: drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 1024 Jun 25 16:51 tmp This fixes it anyway. Is this okay? Yes, it's OK. What's not OK is that the permissions were wrong in the first place. Something strange must have happened on your system, as I don't remember seeing floods of messages like this on debian-user. Do you remember anything interesting about your install? Anything that could have triggered this? This is frequently a relic of unpacking archives directly into /tmp. This may inadvertantly change the permissions of the directory, causing the problems observed. Doing dpkg -x pkgname /tmp would do that. Create a temporary directory to unpack the archive into. - -- Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations, and http://www.gate.net/~storm/ |sure enough, they're yours. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM7GzTqCk2fENdzpVAQHNhQP/d9gNFNGUD9taiqmLm8pIWz7e6mpaa9uS XGLpllPIaJhiM7GzeBM9+blnpYMVPa+6gMmR8DrBSuAUAlcEDTRfW+B1lZlYlAGy DshnC5IkCtcolF/Xk2b83wJrQhWMyXcpC7uFclotM3kr5vq6HqlTFvlc5WScyQhj DXwtigkRFAI= =hKMD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libgpc problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I attempted to install libgpc2, I got the following error: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so (No such file or directory), skipping I have two questions. 1. What is pascal doing with Xwin libs? ldconfig goes through all the libraries. 2. What am I missing that it can't find? Version mismatch between xlib6 and xlib6-dev will cause those errors. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis | your belief in injustice and tragedy. http://www.gate.net/~storm/ | What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM7MSwKCk2fENdzpVAQFxrQP/ajeLbW35kmHhtHzoUFqKLMu5WbLee+pU WW8u2QBT0a2Dedi5FxWZhXt3al2VfFk/YYbKQ+Cs157YyQyGp7+HHduOW0UZNn3p NSMM0SJQ2FMW6FF029+NNxk/Oj5D66MTbrGoy2uMeOe4ssNDTKAekNphFfXl4jC1 vMID6+YXIhc= =1lNC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: message problems...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, dpk wrote: But I have also just realized that my cdrom device doesn't exist: Jun 25 18:05:44 brainiac kernel: Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Jun 25 18:05:44 brainiac kernel: scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 4 SCSI disks total. And /dev/sr0 does not exist. How do I create it? Thanks in advance for any help. /dev/scd0 - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis | your belief in injustice and tragedy. http://www.gate.net/~storm/ | What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM7MS7qCk2fENdzpVAQFu2wP/ck3P7pbAsMLjHNVxF4i3m2UFZQhRQzRT amdcNRLWyZ8qz0h7EqW5gbSOG+vG/jnJnwo4uNk0uOZYsYcUwZmU8LBvAuIEX/kn KrNyWU2kaKZ7s8N6dxDRcfFWZIsFrBErIwK6/zAJxLzeU6mJgVchcNSCS3cZ9tVo JRpLKae7C68= =U1QE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with scalable fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Antonio M. Roldan wrote: I've upgraded to xfree3.3 using the packages located in bo-updates and found the following error messages when installing scalable fonts: --- # dpkg -i xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb (Reading database ... 23014 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xfntscl 3.2-6 (using xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xfntscl ... dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) dpkg: error processing xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2 Adjusting font index in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo... Adjusting font index in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1... Errors were encountered while processing: xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb --- The efect is that the scalable fonts aren't upgraded and the xserver seems to need them. For example, netscape seems horrible, because it uses these fonts. This may be a problem with the switch from compressed to gziped fonts between xfree3.2 and xfree3.3. Did you install xbase and xlib6 first? Try reinstalling all the font packages and see if that helps. - -- | Live never to be ashamed if anything Scott K. Ellis | you do or say is published around the world -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | even if what is published is not true. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM7PY5KCk2fENdzpVAQGnRwP+PAomDT3gceR5i9jCRy7C4mxPkLLZviwh t5qnv3N/I07EhnMD6MUf9Fxl8MFfC9kxro5RWgWy+QkyEsMi7atBYOCsOluAdTxo hZY5BVRbRC1VXmOMRhPc0BOXpP2ZyVYBE5QWGLxO6P13msPqpiUfexgBp3auzZUz 8Rs+I+Hs02Q= =4Ol2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What good is the default .alias file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel? It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing. If it was in the format: alias lsa=ls -a it would be useful. How is this any good? alias a alias alias loada 'source ~/.alias' alias loadalias loada alias log watchlog It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases. A slightly different beast. - -- Scott K. Ellis |In order to live freely and happily, http://www.gate.net/~storm/| you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice. |-- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6/wRqCk2fENdzpVAQF3awQAk/fdi6lPL8rdxiiHNfqrCoSj8i9J8i1M U1nIy4v5rnUmO9T35RsbxOhRahnIOakLU0lP1sJmB4YaxwLcdlQs1ZddlNhRYnIK HvlkAI/4eiurP2j+kv/CxBYdd+ebsra+b/MHnbcRtWSLDse1ERK3Lg1QQIYV3BZ3 NBaA1RR5E8E= =YLH3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libshadow.a ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Roger Endo wrote: Hi, Looking for libshadow.a. Does not seem to be in Debian 1.3 as I checked the Contents file. It was in the experimental shadow package in earlier versions. Can anybody tell me where it is? If I'm not mistaken, shadow support is built into both libc5 and libc6, and there is no need for a libshadow as the functions already are included. The shadow support was merges into the default login and passwd packages. - -- Scott K. Ellis| Live never to be ashamed if anything http://www.gate.net/~storm/ | you do or say is published around the world -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]| even if what is published is not true. | -- Illusions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM7AuHqCk2fENdzpVAQHGJAQAjvdJDV6L7EQqW/r9kn6kXv77sftmHYMt UR38i8tOMXeN9PE3D6/CvNGrxbTl/YLyActHvIANYHS8u7U5tNXcABVoVVmVjEgL Jzl9uyn8OWouQYjNQ9XkNuP3j7+XE/XUE+jELQTsM+rmqQKo7JlbppwY+Pkj7a2H kASFHAPE4So= =2U0O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Cron root@yogi atrun -d -l 0.5 (fwd) What does this error mean ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Stan Brown wrote: I sudenly started getting this message from my Debian box. I have not chnaged anythig on the Debian box. I did reboot anothermachine on the network yesterday. Does anyone have any ideas what this might mean ? Thanks. Forwarded message: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 23 05:34:13 EDT 1997 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 05:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] atrun -d -l 0.5 X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/root X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out The atrun call in your crontab (which is set to run every minute by default), had a problem talking to your NIS/YP server. Transient failure. The version of at in Debian 1.3 uses a seperate daemon rather than depending on cron now. ++ || Your friends will know you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years.| ||-- Illusions | ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM66lvaCk2fENdzpVAQFnEgP9ErZf2kV1D9VIDMVWh1/02WGnFbc7SoKY 9knC6uydhR3cqaETcJ3GsuplFFJmD8iSqNxzSJog3lo4CMVGJMCaZpeorKVGEr4M bQ6bnwE6JWgUM3YelnlQ9CiV2Y1QsLEMYHhyePAq0mVLrKCQqXlTaq1YUpks6jUE dsXtksUsqOk= =YB2X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
