Missing docs?

1998-06-05 Thread Steve Lamb
I just installed pcre-dev, newt-dev and slang-dev. It appears that only slang-dev actually has docs to come with it. There are no man pages for newt or pcre. Shouldn't the development archives come with the documentation so people can learn how to develop with those libraries? --

Re: Which pop3: qpopper or cucipop?

1998-06-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 08:29:30 -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: How do I decide which POP3 server to run, qpopper or cucipop? Personally I stay away from qpopper as much as possible. cucipop has been running fine for me here for weeks. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions

Re: Re[4]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:38:04 -0500 (EST), Michael Roark wrote: I saw another list member post that we should stay away from qpopper. I haven't heard anything - either good or bad. Do you know what the problem is with that daemon. My Debian machine is serving 600 or so dial-up connections for mail

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:02:50 -0500 (EST), Michael Roark wrote: collect: premature EOM: connection reset by dial31.planters.net collect: I/O error on connection from dial31.planters.net One follows the other without fail. Should I try cucipop instead? Well, that depends. I'm not sure if

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 09:36:04 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Well, that depends. I'm not sure if cucipop impliments the nonstandard POP send protocol. I do believe that is proprietary to qpopper and not part of the formal RFC. Of course, I don't have them handy to confirm, so take that all

Which packages needed for X

1998-06-09 Thread Steve Lamb
OK, this has got me stumped. I've installed XFree86 several times from scratch on my Slack system before moving to Debian but for the life of me I cannot understand why I'm erroring out under Debian. The errors I'm getting are: System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1

Re: Re[4]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On 9 Jun 1998 20:38:11 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Have you bothered to file a bug report into the Debian Bug System about this? Then it can be fixed you know .. No. This was before I used Debian that I noticed it and also does not relate to my Debian system as it is on my ISP's

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because the POP send is buggy, so you preferred cucipop. Now you say cucipop doesn't even have POP send. Am I missing something here? Yes. You must read the *WHOLE*

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:51:41 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 01:41:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because the POP send is buggy, so you preferred

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:51:41 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 01:41:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:29:10 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: A few messages back you said that you found qpopper unacceptable because the POP send is buggy, so you preferred

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:50:21 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: So your advice to avoid qpopper is not necessarily relevant to Debian? It is as relevant to Debian as a message containing advice to avoid cucipop is. Or advice to use qpopper is. Or advice to use cucipop is. Or even a message

Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:15:37 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote: I,... what are people switching to? Any recommendations for a fast, slick, and easily configurable wm? Why not just stick with the 1.0 series? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my

Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:47:22 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote: Probably just me being picky... but 1.0 series is not going to have maintenance or developement done on it. Last time I read the Afterstep mailing list there were murmers of someone picking up the 1.0 tree and maintaining it. I also do

Re: Re[6]: pop3 mail problem

1998-06-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:15:42 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote: : None at all. It is a general Linux question which really isn't : specific to Debian at all. Not to hack on you for not reading the thread, but had you done so you might have noticed that Miquel van Smoorenburg not only

Re: Using Vim with mutt

1998-06-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 00:15:39 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Yes, you just hit the enter key at the end of each line. :-) Use J to join lines when reformatting, etc. Or use Joe. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my

Re: Help, I've messed up my system

1998-06-12 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:35:11 GMT, Adrian Monk wrote: 2) If I try to log in as user account atheris I get a column of 1000.1000 instead of atheris.atheris (although if I do ls -la ^ Anyone know how to fix this self-inflicted grief? Obviously somewhere Slackware has altered permissions or

Re: Windows Managers

1998-06-12 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:38:03 -0400, Brian Morgan wrote: Could anyone suggest some good windows manager packages and where to get them? I'm using debian 2.0, kernel 2.0.33-9, x11R6. I'd like to be able to use something that would be compatible with the upcoming release of GNOME for debian.

Re: HELP! Spammer using my system !

1998-06-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:07:32 -0400 (EDT), matthew tebbens wrote: How do I stop this ASAP ? killall smail Not quite the answer you're looking for, but it works. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus|

Exim woes

1998-06-15 Thread Steve Lamb
I lost my basic exim aliases file. Could someone be so kind as to send one to me? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and

Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:50:15 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through every version, even major version changes. Rght, that is why we see people in here

Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:07:27 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: there are two cases where an upgrade can fail: A monty Python fan there, eh? 1) You waited to long. It may be hard to upgrade a rexx system (although 2) You changed the system in places unknown to dpkg. I'm not sure how much 3) A

Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:39:36 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: I love that term, FUD. It implies an untruth. It is true that people have complained about a bo-hamm upgade on this list. But you draw the wrong conclusions. I already told you that hamm is not released. If there are many severe

Re: A friendly #linux

1998-06-17 Thread Steve Lamb
Damn, got zapped by the no reply-to again. ==BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE== From: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:41:45 -0700 Reply-To: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98

Re: A friendly #linux

1998-06-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:58:32 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Damn, got zapped by the no reply-to again. Geez, then I forwarded it to the wrong list. :/ My apologies for that fubar. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com

Re: A friendly #linux

1998-06-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:45:28 -0700 (PDT), James Blackwell wrote: Oh, I'm sure that they have the motive *currently*, but companies have a very nasty tendancy of not remaining that way for ver long. No, individuals do. Perhaps individuals do, I'm not able to make that judgement. But

Re: A friendly #linux

1998-06-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:02:55 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Geez, did it twice. Someone slap me silly./ -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343

Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:30:26 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Yes, but it is not the time to install hamm yet for an end user. I don't think it is appropriate for Debian to switch over to Microsoft release schedule (another extreme statement I'm happy to weak). Rats, I'm not an end user?

Re: The juggernaught expands?

1998-06-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:33:36 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitly. And lucky for us...it will be impossible for Uncle Bill to force Linux users to install IE. Oh and another great Feature that comes with IE ActiveX. The Mac version doesn't have AX, something tells me a Linux version

ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

1998-06-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Anyone know what is up with these two sites? ftp.debian.org appears to be refusing connections and ftp.us.debian.org looks like the daemon is there but inactive. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus|

Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

1998-06-20 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:30:39 -0400 (EDT), Colin Telmer wrote: I just got into ftp.debian.org fine. us didn't work however. Cheers. From dselect: Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C) Connecting to ftp.debian.org... Failed to connect Retry connection at once [y]: From the CLI: [EMAIL

Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

1998-06-20 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:49:16 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 07:41:49AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: From the CLI: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# telnet ftp.debian.org ftp Trying 130.207.7.21... Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. Escape character is '^]'. user anonymous [12:47am

ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

1998-06-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Do either of these require reverse lookups on FTPs? I can't get in from home, which currently is not resolving on reverse lookups. I can get in from work, however. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus|

Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

1998-06-21 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:55:59 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Do either of these require reverse lookups on FTPs? I can't get in from home, which currently is not resolving on reverse lookups. I can get in from work, however. To answer my own question, both ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

Re: ftp.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org

1998-06-21 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:57:50 -0400 (EDT), dpk wrote: I have turned off PARANOID for ftp... you should be able to get in now. Thanks. Dunno why but some of the addresses for jps.net just don't reverse well, others do. *shrug* -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed

Re: Isn't cc the default compiler?

1998-06-25 Thread Steve Lamb
On 25 Jun 1998 10:24:02 +0200, Brederlow wrote: I compiled a lot of packages on my system and often I see that programms don't use cc as their compiler. Thus they don't use /etc/alternatives/cc. Unless somebody tells me a good reason for not using cc I will open bugs against any Packages that

Re: Needed: NEC CDrom drive info

1998-07-07 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:14:06 -0400, Damir J. Naden wrote: souncard gives me three diff options: matsushita, mitsumi or sony, but I can not find any inf anywhere on the net, including NEC site, that would reveal which audio cable works with 464 drive. Does anyone out there have any clue about this?

Re: dir /s *.* equivalent for unix.

1998-07-07 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 06 Jul 1998 20:19:36 -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: I just keeping getting all these lovely questions for you. At a console, if I want to search for a file or any files with a certain extension in the current directory and all sub directories and list them, what's the best way to do

Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-07 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Marcus Johnson wrote: This from the Linux-newbies list: Gotta love that it sucks mentality of todays youth. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's.

Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-07 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:39:44 -0700 (PDT), Marcus Johnson wrote: anything. Anyway, could you compare RPMs and the Debian package manager? Also is there some kind of uninstall manager? No, I can't. I have never used RPM. However, Debian with dselect is quite hard to beat. And of course there

Re: Repeated messages?

1998-07-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:59:05 -0400, Evan Van Dyke wrote: Is it just me, or am I getting messages from two or three days ago again? It is not just you. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They

Re: File managers ??............

1998-07-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 22:41:23 PDT, phillip Neumann wrote: Im wonder the power of my linux system. But Im still browsing my computer only with the ls command. Can you people recomend me a good file manager ??? Well, if you're used to Norton Commander from DOS there is Midnight Commander

Re: SOLUTION? how to hold mail in another machine temporarily

1998-07-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 29 Jun 98 21:53:07 +0200, Carlos Carvalho wrote: Sure this is necessary, but I don't think it's enough. First, the temp machine must recognize all users, otherwise it'll bounce the message. Second, I'd like it to not only queue the mail but *dump it on the main one when it comes up*. If I

Re: How to clear screen before login prompt

1998-07-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 29 Jun 98 16:25:37 +0200, Jieyao wrote: I was trying to do a clear screen after I logout from the console before the login prompt appears. the clear command in your .logout might do the trick. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my

Re: More Linux in the press

1998-07-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:41:16 -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: http://www.economist.com/editorial/freeforall/current/index_wb9493.html Wow, same article that has been floating around for, what, the past year or so? I think this sums up about 95% of all the articles written about Linux in the

Re: More Linux in the press

1998-07-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 09:21:05 -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Oh, sure, but I figure the more places people see and hear about Linux the more they take (serious) notice. It helps move it out of the hacker arena into the businessplace, maybe. The problem, though, is that every article repeats the

Re: Exim!

1998-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Jul 12, 1998 at 10:58:03PM -0700, George Bonser wrote: You do not need procmail with exim :-) Want and need are two different things... go to www.exim.org and look up the section in the documentation link about how to use exim's filters. It has the functionality of exim built-in.

Re: Exim!

1998-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Jul 12, 1998 at 11:03:34PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: thousand procmailrc files from their users. In that case I doubt directing them all to learn a new set of filtering rules is an appropriate course to take. Er, is not an appropriate course to take. :/ -- Steve C

Re: pascal.+development

1998-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:13:01 -0400, Michael B. Taylor wrote: So that the vi lovers dont flame me too badly, I have to point out that vim has modes too, but I dont know if it has one for Pascal. JED has modes as well. Perl, C and pascal are the ones I use from time to time. --

Re: Stupid unix

1998-07-24 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:09:41 -0700 (PDT), Eric House wrote: Why not, in bash: for f in $(ls); do oldName=$f newName=$(echo $oldName | tr [A-Z] [a-z]) mv -i $oldName $newName done [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/morpheus/t}ls -la total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 morpheus users1024 Jul 24 11:22 .

Re: Stupid unix

1998-07-24 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:28:25 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: So what? Didn't you saw the -i option he supplied to the mv command? That's why Eric's solution works :P If that is the case then why not just do it all by hand in the first place? Sheesh. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Mutt, Exim, and the From: header

1998-07-29 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 05:38:44 -0500, Curt Daugaard wrote: I'd appreciate any insight or tips about just where to look. Why not just use the set hostname in mutt? EG: set hostname=calweb.com set hostname=teleute.dyn.ml.org set hostname=zippitydoda.com -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Linus Torvalds interview

1998-07-31 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:03:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a win95 system? Yes. In fact, I swapped machines around the HDs to test a theory of mine. That fabulous, great, decent OS loses it's mind! You see, all information about the hardware is

Re: Linus Torvalds interview

1998-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 01:37:43 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? I didn't have to update the drivers of Linux. It came up and running. Win95 on the other hand kept on insisting on rebooting the system for each updated driver. Sure you do. It is just called recompiling the kernel. And

Re: GNOME 0.20

1998-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:34:06 +0800 (PHT), Richard L. Alhama wrote: How can I make GNOME 0.20 working? I installed all the necessary packages. Now what file do I need to edit? /etc/X11/window-managers or my $HOME/.xinitrc? The apps are working fine (e.g. Eeyes, gnome-help-browser) Then it

Re: Partitioning....

1998-08-12 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: Well, give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory (for 64 megs of ram, go for 128 megs of swap). Swap should be a seperate partition. Actually, this is antiquated advice to be handing out. On my Debian

Re: OFF-TOPIC (How do you guys sort your mail?)

1998-08-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 02:46:19 +0800 (PHT), Richard L. Alhama wrote: How do you guys sort all this mail? Well, with Pine I'd recommend Procmail. However, if you're using Exim it has filtering capabilities of its own. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are

Re: OFF-TOPIC (How do you guys sort your mail?)

1998-08-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:42:52 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: I didn't knew that. I use exim and fetchmail+procmail. Would you recommend fetchmail+exim+exim's filter instead? Do you have an example configuration for the Debian lists? Nope. I don't have any mail going to my personal machine

Formatting a file with mkfs.msdos

1998-08-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Does anyone have a clue as how to format a file with mkfs.msdos? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my

RE: Formatting a file with mkfs.msdos

1998-08-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:39:25 -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: But, let me make a few comments, which may help answer the question anyway. Or, at the very least, explain a few things to people who didn't know that before. Anything with mkfs as part of its name generally refers to a tool used to

Re: Linux security

1998-08-19 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 09:43:13PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: However, let's assume someone grabs a copy of your /etc/passwd file, and you aren't using shadow passwords. All is not lost (yet). See, you can't decrypt the information stored on disk - your plaintext password is encrypted

Re: Linux security

1998-08-19 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:27:40 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote: No. The first two characters of the Encrypted password field are the salt; the plaintext password collected from loogin or wherever is crypted using that salt, and the result compared to the entire field. Hrm, guess things

Re: Linux security

1998-08-19 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:21:37 -0500, the lone gunman wrote: only to the Microsoft programmers. In my mind, it just seems that the more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of discovering bugs, security concerns, etc. It is the glass half empty versus the glass half full

dselect oddities

1998-05-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Am I the only one who feels that dselect should not update packages unless explicitly told to? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 |

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-15 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 15 May 1998 11:04:55 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote: But isn't that the point of a packaging system? This way, bug-fixes, security fixes, etc. are integrated into the system simply by running dselect every now and then. deselect *does* present you with a list of what it's going to

Fwd: Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-15 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 15 May 1998 13:58:02 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ellis wrote: Go to the select screen, hit 'o', go to the top of the updated packages section (the header), hit '='. There, all the updated packages are on hold. My isn't that obvious. Not. That's what placing packages on hold is good for.

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-15 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 15 May 1998 13:04:56 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote: Hmm. In the first mail I saw from you, you said: : Am I the only one who feels that dselect should not update : packages unless explicitly told to? I didn't see any explanation there. Sorry about that. No, the reply I

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-15 Thread Steve Lamb
On 15 May 1998 13:24:33 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Why not? It is not as if you have to put every package on hold individually. Because I wasn't aware that I could put sections on hold. However, as someone has said, it is not possible to place everything on hold. Also, when

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-15 Thread Steve Lamb
On 15 May 1998 16:21:52 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: One can certainly put all new and all updated packages on hold. There are not that many sections; so it *is* possible to put ecerything on hold. Then ask yourself this, would you put up with having to release all those packages

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On 15 May 1998 22:41:03 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: One can certainly put all new and all updated packages on hold. There are not that many sections; so it *is* possible to put ecerything on hold. Steve Then ask yourself this, would you put up with having to release Steve all those

Re: Fwd: Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 16 May 1998 10:40:23 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: We are all volunteers here. Generally speaking, constructive criticism is welcome -- unconstructive criticism just makes people leave the project. Exactly. I have been giving constructive critism and in return I have been getting a

Re: Fwd: Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On 16 May 1998 00:22:29 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Steve Exactly. I have been giving constructive critism and in return Steve I have been getting a flippant attitude of It isn't that many Steve ketstrokes. In fact, one person has said that if the Steve situation were reverse he(?)'d find it

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On 16 May 1998 00:20:33 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Now, you have to mark packages you want to upgrade. Tell me again, how reversing the default would be any different? I add a new package. All of a sudden I have to mark that package (or section) for hold again. I add another

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:32:29 -0400, Bill Leach wrote: Although I admit to now being in the If it ain't broke, don't fix it! mode myself (while hamm is in frozen), I do not personally subscribe to that philosophy. The 'pain' of delaying upgrading to repair bugs can be considerable and

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 05:07:12PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, I think you misunderstand what stable, unstable etc are. No, I am not. I am well aware of it means. If you want continued upgrading of your applications, then you should track unstable -- currently slink. If you

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On 17 May 1998 18:26:36 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You put unstable in dselects install list. You then proceeded not to tell dslect to put ewverything on hold (as I have explained earlier, this involves hitting = twice on the right line in dselect). Which I didn't know I could

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On 17 May 1998 18:37:35 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Steve On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 05:07:12PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, I think you misunderstand what stable, unstable etc are. Steve No, I am not. I am well aware of it means. I think not. Unstable means expect glitches.

Re: dselect oddities

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 18 May 1998 18:46:06 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, we read and we understand what you want. We have suggested ways in which you can both (a) work around the lack of this feature now, and (b) request that it be added in the future. But you don't listen to our replies. Incorrect.

Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 18 May 1998 09:07:52 -0300 (ADT), Trevor Barrie wrote: No, the reply I thought went to the list didn't because this list does not correctly set the reply-to field. Seems to me it sets it right... ie, it leaves it how the original sender set it. Stepping on a user's header is a Bad

Re: Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
of people but never replied to by them, and when a reply is made it is, more often than not by an order of at least a magnitude, to the list and not to the individual. Let's compare that to the alternative, no reply-to set and people not culling the To/CC field. Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Reply-to (was: dselect oddities)

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 18 May 1998 09:00:43 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 18 May 1998 11:40:26 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ellis wrote: I'm afraid Ill have to drag out this again. Please read: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Read it, laughed at every point in it as every single part

Sill question about dependancies

1998-05-18 Thread Steve Lamb
icewm_0.8.16-1.deb doesn't have a dependancy for an xserver, shouldn't it? -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor,

Re: the boot disk's kernel

1998-05-19 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 18 May 1998 22:04:55 -0400, Wakko Warner wrote: I have noticed that the boot disk for debian contains support for fat32 drives, yet 2.0.33 does not have this support. What has been done in the kernel to support fat32? Had the fat32 patch applied to it. Threw me off because the

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-21 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 21 May 1998 08:45:42 +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: Does the stampede format even SUPPORT dependancies? Yes it does, minimally. I'm not familiar with DEB but what I liked about SLP was that it was just a TGZ with the package information appended to the end. So instead of being a

Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:12:46 +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: I'm down to 10 spam a day now. I don't want 30 again. Get some real filters in place, then. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's.

Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:32:52 +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: Get some real filters in place, then. Excuse me, but I have filters. The 10 spam I get sli[p by the filters because of forged headers manipulated to get by filters. I get 1 per month that slip by my filters... if that. I

Re: ftp install

1998-05-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 22 May 1998 13:08:50 -0700, Richard Sevenich wrote: I am considering a fresh install of hamm from the floppy base diskettes etc. Does this give me network access and ftp so I can then complete the installation with dselect's ftp method? The floppies, along with the base2_0.tgz (or

Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 22 May 1998 13:29:36 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote: I also never use a forged address but I have Exim with a rather impressive list of sites, domain names, networks, and individuals that may not send me email that I have built up over time. I get maybe a half-dozen spams a week.

Re: IP Masquerade and PPP

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 09:21:08 +0530, Bruce Jackson wrote: Has anyone got IP Masquerade to work with PPP. Yup, I've got a Linux and a WinNT/Win95 box behind another Linux IPMasqing system, works fine. the Internet using PPP I can`t ping, traceroute, etc the Internet. Says Of course not.

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 14:10:40 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (Oh, and the nice thing about having an ar of two tar's rather than a tar with some extra stuff tacked on the end is that you can get to *all* the information in the former with standard tools, whereas the latter requires you to whip out

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:46 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: The other data in Debian's case is stuff like dependency information, installation and removal scripts, and the maintainer's contact address. Proprietary to Debian... (That's more or less enough information to tell you what other

Re: IP Masquerade and PPP

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 12:44:16 +0530, Bruce Jackson wrote: You mean to tell me that with a simple firewall I will not be able to ping and traceroute. This does not seem logical to me that a firewall should prevent this. Why doesn't it seem logical? Withouth the proper Masquerading modules

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On 23 May 1998 05:55:40 -0400, Bonard B. Timmons III wrote: So how does their package management work then? I don't understand what the disadvantage to .deb is besides that it is a new file format, especially since there are such nice tools (dpkg) with which to manipulate it. Like any other

Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 12:05:09 +0200 (CEST), Orn E. Hansen wrote: The problem with news servers, and reading threads like this one there, is for the home user. If you have a 28.8 link, or 14.4 link, and start reading the news, you will be downloading a far greater amount than if you just

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 06:31:32 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 12:14:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:46 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: The other data in Debian's case is stuff like dependency information, installation and removal scripts

Re: IP Masquerade and PPP

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:17 +0530, Bruce Jackson wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: On Sat, 23 May 1998 12:44:16 +0530, Bruce Jackson wrote: As I said, ping, FTP, ICQ chat/file requests, DCC all require Jeezus, talk about open mouth insert foot. :( ping and traceroute should work, I

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 May 1998 01:54:44 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: but not essential anyway. They exist solely for use on Debian and derived systems. I cannot imagine why we are even having this discussion. Because someone wanted to know why SLP and the

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 May 1998 17:56:53 +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: non-Linux system (if the package is a binary-all one). How would I do that with SLP? Hell if I know. I was just pointing out one of the good points of SLP. It is based on tar. It is

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 May 1998 19:21:06 +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: The .deb is proprietary to Debian. =3Dp The installation and removal scri= Any particular reason you have Quoted Printable on? Do you

Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV

1998-05-23 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 May 1998 20:01:53 +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: Not really. Other than that it's the default and is more or less considered standard so I left it that way. *chuckle* There are quite a few people in quite a few newsgroups that

Delivery errors

1998-05-24 Thread Steve Lamb
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