Re: vim and GTK

1998-12-22 Thread aqy6633
   If you read vim-dev, you should probably noticed that GTK+ support is
   probably not for long...=20
   The contributor does not like the way his code was re-indented and
   requested to remove it from further releases :)
 
  He did not request it yet I think, but seeing his threats it is very
  likely. I hope someone else will step up to support the GTK+ port
  though. If I read the quotations correctly Bram (main vim author) said
  it looked very nice..
 
 Let me get this straight--he wants the code pulled because he doesn't 
 like the way someone else indented it?

In short - yes, but this would be only half the truth. Indenting style of VIM
looks weird enough for me - I absolutely cannot read the code with indentation
used by Bram - original VIM author. When I wanted to fix some bugs I had to
re-indent some parts of it by hand to be able to read. 

Another problem is that the contributor made some further changes to the code 
but cannot just apply the patch because his original code was re-indented. 

In any case, the probelem seem to be resolved by now - Bram decided to keep
his code with contributor original indentation.

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Re: UNIX questions

1998-12-22 Thread aqy6633
 Where are defined daemon which are run at boot ? (I would like to run 
 fetchmail -d at boot)

Just add these couple of lines to, say /etc/init.d/netstd_misc
Or create your own file and add it with update-rc.d command.

 Is there any bash command to wait for n seconds ?

sleep n


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Re: vim and GTK

1998-12-21 Thread aqy6633
 Work on vim is progressing steadily, and a new alpha version has just
 been released. One of the new versions is a GTK+ frontend. I would like

If you read vim-dev, you should probably noticed that GTK+ support is probably
not for long... 
The contributor does not like the way his code was re-indented and requested
to remove it from further releases :)


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Re: Adding a user... but they can't use X

1998-12-19 Thread aqy6633
  I installed fvwm95 and got it configured properly. Then I used 'useradd'
 to give her an account, and gave her her own .fvwm95rc. When I log on as
 her, I can run 'startx' and it brings up the taskbar and so forth. But
 when I try to fire off any programs from the taskbar or an icon, they lock
 up. I tried opening an rxvt and it brings up a window and then says 'You
 don't have permission to run the X server'.

Make sure /usr/X11R6/bin is in the PATH of the user in question before you do 
startx.


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Re: ftp (client?) problem

1998-12-12 Thread aqy6633
 I'm having a problem where I can download a file to my Linux
 box but not upload in the opposite direction.  (BTW, the
 remote machine is a Unix box running Digital Unix or
 Solaris.)  When I do a put, ftp (the program) will simply
 sit there doing nothing.  Sometimes, I'm lucky (?) and it
 uploads about 2.5K before it sits still.

Odd.

 My suspicion is on the ftp client program as I can upload a
 file fine from a PC running Win95 which the Linux box
 masquarades for.  (Is that the correction expression??)
 
 Any help would be appreciated.

Try using passive mode of ftp client. (Just type passiveCR before put)

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Re: problems with read()

1998-11-29 Thread aqy6633
   I'm in the need of tracing a read(). After creating a socket
 (socket+bind+listen) I make a telnet call the machine+port and after the
 first read(), the program fails at it.
 
   More exactly I get a errno that says:
   Invalid argument
 
   And the exact call is:
 cont=read(sd, line, max-longitud-1);
 
   I've tripled checked the arguments with gdb and all of them are
 what read expects. sd is the value given by bind(), line is a char * with

Since you have a server socket, sd should be a value returned by accept().


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Re: Hello World doesn't work

1998-11-28 Thread aqy6633
   main()
   {
   printf(Howdy, World!\n);
   }

I would sugest putting the following line before main()

#includestdio.h


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Re: GTK problems

1998-11-17 Thread aqy6633
 I have installed the Debian libgtk1.1 package and all is fine. Almost. 
 When trying to compile gtk dependent sources where a configure script is 
 given, I always get the following error message on running configure:
 
 *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found

Install libgtk1.1-dev package.


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Re: Motif?

1998-11-01 Thread aqy6633
 Ok, I'm going to thoroughly expose my ignorance of all things X  Motif...
 I'm taking a class on Motif programming and thought I could use my Linux
 machine at home to compile the code...no go, obviously. So I guess I'm
 wondering - is Motif thoroughly un-free? I attempted to go to their
 website (why would someone call themselves Open Software Foundation yet
 sell Motif for such huge fees?) but didn't understand price schedules at
 all...so, how the heck does this whole thing work? Also, is lesstif usable
 yet or am I stuck compiling on my school's server?

Motif is a true commercial product. You can get Motif for Linux for about $100
(www.metrolink.com is one of the vendors). Lesstif is probably not a good
thing to learn Motif with. Behavior of XmForm is confusing enough by itself, 
Lesstif still has a LOT of problems with this widget.


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Re: Nescape 4.5 for SWim Motif 2.1?

1998-10-20 Thread aqy6633
 Is there a package of Netscape 4.5 compiled for SWiM Motif 2.1 ?

Most probably not. Netscape always used  Motif 1.2 for linking.
May be glibc2 version uses Morif 2.1 - but unlikely.

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Re: [Dual boot] dual boot NT and debian?

1998-10-16 Thread aqy6633
 I currently have debian running on a ide drive on my computer and I have
 recently purchases a scsi drive so that I can boot windows from the
 scsi.  Can I use lilo to tell it to boot the scsi drive up and run
 windows?  Trying to make a dual boot machine.

Check out Linux+NT-Loader mini-HOWTO. Also, you may wiant to get bootmenu
package out of sunsite for alternative solution.

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Re: -lX11

1998-10-14 Thread aqy6633
 I'm trying to compile a program called dataplot. It's in Fortran,
 and I've partially succeeded in converting it to C...however, at the end
 of a compile, it claims:
 ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory
 X11 stuff is in the ldconfig path...so what's going on?

You should have put instead of plain -lX11:
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11


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Re: motif debian

1998-10-14 Thread aqy6633
 i have motif2.01, and i used alien --deb , and installed the .deb
 result. After i tried to lounch mwm and get a segmantation fault!!!
 i tried again with an other file from the motif package and got the same
 thing!! 
 the motif package was first in rpm format, after converting it,
 i uninstalled lesstif , and installed motif i got the result i told you,
 second try: i installed lesstif again , and installed motif after,
 and i got the same result!
 would you please tell what is your explanation of what hapenned?
 and tell me how you installed it
 thanks

The thing is your Motif 2.0.1 is libc5-based library while your system is
probably Debian 2.0 which is libc6 (glibc2) - based. You should install libc5
package along with xlib6 package (in addition to xlib6g) and try again.
Unfortunately, some Motif vendors used to sell Motif 2.0.1 compiled in such a
way that it would still link with libc6 even it was compiled with libc5 and
libc5 is present on the system. I cannot imagine anything would help in this
case. Ask your vendor for an upgrade to Motif 2.1 (libc6-based version).
This should be fairly cheap. I myself _never_ paid the full price for my motif
(Used some trade-in option) and since the first purchase I keep getting
upgrades basically for free.

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Re: unattended ftp

1998-10-12 Thread aqy6633
 | Excuse if this is a FAQ, but how can I set up a shell script to ftp to a
 | host and retrieve a file?
 
 If you install ncftp, you get a program called ncftpget that can be
 used to get files non-interactively (eg in a script).

Not necessaraly with ncftp, plain fto will do. In a script:

#!/bin/sh

ftp -i -n host EOI
user userid passwd
cd /some/dir
bin
get somefile save/file/name
bye
EOI


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Re: Oracle

1998-10-09 Thread aqy6633
 Slashdot ( http://www.slashdot.org/ ) has an article about Oracle's
 plans to support a Linux port. It cites
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/980908-23.html which tells us that
 Oracle have signed up with RedHat, VA Research, Pacific HiTech, and
 SuSE. Slashdot (though not the cited article) refer to these as `all 4
 major distributions'. Debian is conspicuous only by its absence.
 
 Does anyone know if this is likely to change in future, or will it
 soon be the case that if I want to run Oracle under Linux I should
 choose another distribution ?

Debian is not a company to sign up with. You can use Oracle on Debian with
no problems whatsoever. It is even distributed in plain tarballs and not
rpms. You can download it right now, if you want.

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Re: Oracle

1998-10-09 Thread aqy6633
 Debian is not a company to sign up with. You can use Oracle on Debian
 with
 no problems whatsoever. It is even distributed in plain tarballs and not
 rpms. You can download it right now, if you want.
 
 
 Yes, where is it available to download?

http://technet.oracle.com

You have to sign up first.


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Re: Netscape and libXt.so.6

1998-10-06 Thread aqy6633
 I installed Netscape Navigator 4.06 (base install, not Communicator) on
 Debian 2.0 (kernel 2.0.34) in /usr/local/netscape according to Netscape's
 installation instructions.  I try to run the executable but I get the
 message: /usr/local/netscape/netscape : can not load libXt.so.6.  The
 library libXt.so.6 is on my system (in /usr/X11R6/lib) and the path is
 referenced in /etc/ld.co.conf.  I tried running /sbin/ldconfig -v |less
 and there were no errors, however, libXt.so.6 points to libXt.so.6.0.

Gee, this should really be somewhere in the FAQ.

Netscape binary is libc5-based. Therefore you would need to install libc5
package along with libc5-based X libaries (xlib6 package, in addition to
xlib6g). You may need also to install xpm4.7 package.

Better yet, use dselect to install netscape4 package (installer of the 
archive you downloaded from netscape ftp site).

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Re: Starting daemons under debian 2.0

1998-10-05 Thread aqy6633
 I would like to control myself starting of daemons booting up my new
 debian 2.0 powered machine.
 Under RedHat 5.x I had ntsysv program which permitted to choose the
 daemons to launch on startup and generated automaticallu /etc/rcX.d
 files.
 Is there something similar under Debian?

update-rc.d

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Re: 'man'

1998-10-05 Thread aqy6633
 I just installed Debian for the first time (Install was very easy and
 went well).  So far I've only installed the base system (rescue,
 driver, bases 1 through 5)  It seems to be working quite well and I'll
 start adding some packages soon but I have one concern.  I can not use
 'man'.  I always need help when it comes to using various commands.
 When I type 'man' and the name of a command like df or something it
 says unknown command.  Do you think there's a problem with my install?
  Do I need to install a package in order to get the manual command? 
 Any suggestions you have would be greatly appriciated.

No problem with your install. man is just not a part of the base
installation. Fire up dselect and select man-db package (and everything it
depends on - quite a few actually).

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Re: XWindows Help

1998-10-04 Thread aqy6633
 exec of /usr/vin/X11/XF86_NONE failed
 
 How do I solve this?  I imagine XF86_NONE is a file I don't have (I checked 
 to see if it was
 there).  What do I need in this file or how can I create it?

Edit /etc/X11/Xserver file and put the name of the driver you want to use
there instead of XF86_NONE (like XF86_SVGA ).

 As an aside, how can I determine how much drive space I have left on my 
 harddrive?  In other
 words, what command will tell me this?

df 


Good luck,


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Re: Help ppp

1998-09-28 Thread aqy6633
 Hello, i have just installed Linux, how do i do to get connected(ppp)?

As root, run pppconfig command. Then start ppp with pon, stop with poff,
see log with plog.

Good luck,

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Re: Problem with communicator

1998-09-27 Thread aqy6633
 I'm currently running communicator v4.5b1, but it's buggy and I'd like
 to move
 to pr2 or back to 4.06...
 
 However, when I try to install either of these I get netscape: can't
 load library 'libXt.so.6'  I have that library, but communicator won't
 see it.  v4.5b1 runs
 fine.
 
 Any ideas?

Have you installed libc5 or libc6 (glibc2) version of 4.06 ?

If libc5 one then you need to install all the libc5 compatibility libraries
(xlib6 package, in addition to xlib6g package).

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Re: /usr/lib/X11 vs. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11

1998-09-22 Thread aqy6633
 These 2 directories (/usr/lib/X11 and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11) seems to me an 
 exact 
 copy of each other. I could not find any link between them.
 Can I rm --force --recursive --verbose /usr/lib/X11 ?
 And if not, why ?

jessica:~ ls -l /usr/lib/X11
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   16 Aug 25 13:46 /usr/lib/X11 -
../X11R6/lib/X11

So, this is not a duplicate, but a historic compatibility symlink
/usr/lib/X11 - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11


Do not remoe it :)

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Re: printer advice

1998-09-22 Thread aqy6633
 I'm planning to purchase a laser-printer in the near future, and am
 currently looking at a HP LaserJet 6Lse.  I was wondering if anyone has
 used this model under Linux, and how well it performed if so.

I use it with no problems here. 
Nice printer.

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Re: Motif on Hamm??

1998-09-22 Thread aqy6633
 What are people using for Motif on glibc systems? 

Motif Complete! from Metro Link Inc. (www.metrolink.com) is an EXCELLENT 
product. Great documentation, possibility for multi-version development
environments, latest versions, customized winow manager, etc.


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Re: Real Player

1998-09-20 Thread aqy6633
 I configured rvplayer for Netcape under applications, and when I click
 a link in Netscape rvplayer will start, but not play.  It behaves as
 if I simply invoked it from the command line with without a URL.  It
 comes up on the screen and just sits there.

I bet you put application name as rvplayer, not as rvplayer %s :)

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Re: Choice of database

1998-09-16 Thread aqy6633
 I would like to consolidate some of the data in our office into a
 database.  Our office staff uses Windows NT with the usual MS Office
 tools.  I see they have MS Access available on a menu but I have no
 experience with it.  From the Linux side I would prefer to use an
 SQL-aware relational database that supports access through perl DBI or
 JDBC.

Postgresql is accessable via both JDBC and ODBC. Which makes it possible to
link tables on the server to local ones in MSAccess. You just need to
download Postgres ODBC driver for windows. I tried that once and it worked.

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Re: [DBI] Structure of table?

1998-09-14 Thread aqy6633
 I wonder if there is a legal way using the DBI driver for Perl to
 gain information about the structure of the table, especially the
 length of some fields.

I think there is no DBI function that would do it uniformly for all
databases, but for most of them you could execute a SELECT query
which would give you desired result.

For example, in PostgreSQL

SELECT a.attnum, a.attname, t.typname, a.attlen
FROM pg_class c, pg_attribute a, pg_type t
WHERE c.relname = 'yourtable' 
  and a.attnum  0 
  and a.attrelid = c.oid 
  and a.atttypid = t.oid 
ORDER BY attnum



Hope it helps.

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Re: xringd problem

1998-09-13 Thread aqy6633
 I just installed xringd. It must be a cool thing, but it can not find the
 modem
 #xringd -m /dev/ttyS1
 xringd: error opening modem device
 No such file or directory

Are you doing it as a normal user or a root. If not root, is this user a
member of dialout group?

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Re: Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-06 Thread aqy6633
 Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
 (yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
 in the VC's).

Make sure the following is present in your /etc/X11/Xresources:

*Text.translations: #override ~Shift ~Meta KeyDelete: delete-next-character()
XTerm*termName: xterm-debian
*VT100*backarrowKey: false
*VT100.Translations: #override KeyBackSpace: string(\177)\n\
   KeyDelete: string(\033[3~)\n\
   KeyHome: string(\033OH)\n\
   KeyEnd: string(\033OF)

I don't like introducing xterm-debian terminfo entry myself and just renamed
it to xterm.

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Re: /bin/sh vs. /bin/bash

1998-08-26 Thread aqy6633
 Is this[1] to be considered as a bug and should I report it?
 
   Torsten
 
 Footnotes: 
 [1] the using of non-sh features in a script started with #!/bin/sh

Yes, this is a bug! Please report it. 
Even more, we had a BIG discussion of this issue and dicided to have an
alternatives for /bin/sh link (like bash, ash, pdksh).
A few developers even expressed desire to remove essential flag from bash,
that is every package that uses bash would have to declare explicit dependency
on it.

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Re: Missing toolbar icons on KDE for Debian Linux

1998-08-08 Thread aqy6633
 I installed KDE 1.0 on my Debian Linux 2.0 with the .deb packages from
 ftp.us.kde.org and it worked find; except one thing: I get blurred
 images instead of nice looking icons (i.e., the Up, Home, ... buttons)
 on the toolbar in kfm. This problem occurs in some other applications,
 too.

Yep, that happend to me also.
But I don't use KDE and just wanted to get an impression what it is and thus
left that alone and didn't find the reason for that...


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Re: I need an explanation!

1998-08-05 Thread aqy6633
 Can someone explain why the folowing happens:
 
 15:21:35$ gnomine 
 gnomine: can't load library 'libX11.so.6'

 ii  xlib6g  3.3.2.2-4  shared libraries required by X clients
 
 Everything looks like it is installed!
 This is hamm system converted recently (as I'm sure some of you remember)

Though you converted to hamm, gnomine binary is still libc5-based and it
needs libc5-based X libraries. You would need to install xlib6 package.


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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread aqy6633
 Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !

???
Go ahead and download it from www.stardivision.com


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Re: vi

1998-08-02 Thread aqy6633
 Do you know whether debian has vi editor. How about latex?

Sure, both are available. Different vi's are in vim (my favorite), nvi,
elvis packages. And latex is in tetex-* packages.

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Re: Questions

1998-07-28 Thread aqy6633
 Hello, Im trying to learn Linux and I have no clue where to start.  My 
 first problem is what file do I need for the Linux operating system?  
 The file I thought was it was had a suffix of gz and if i was correct 
 with that being the file, then how do you install it?  Is it a 
 compressed file? What is used to decompress it.  I hope this doesnt 
 sound too stupid but I have never worked with Linux and I feel lost.  I 
 hope you can help and hope to hear from you soon.  Thanx for your time 
 and effort.

Please read

ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/disks-i386/current/install.html


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Re: What should I buy ?

1998-07-28 Thread aqy6633
Wow, good choice, man!
Check out http://www.tdl.com/~netex/ or http://www.varesearch.com/

Alex Y.

 - Dual Pentium II 300
 - 256 Mb RAM
 - Two 7Gb SCSI HDDs
 - 2 Mb AGP Card
 - 19 Monitor
 - 4x SCSI CD-Recorder
 - 32x CD-ROM
 - Network Card (100 Mb/s)
 - SoundBlaster Clone
 
 - Flatbed SCSI Scanner
 - Small Postscript Printer
 - Radio-modem
 
 - SO: Debian Slink

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Re: Win 95 and NT

1998-07-25 Thread aqy6633
  I am currently running 3 operating systems on a P200MMX, Win 95, 
  Win NT Workstation and Win NT Server.  
  If I install Debian Linux in it's own partition on this system, 
  will it use the NT boot menu or trash my system and make the Windows 
  OS inoperative?

No, Linux won't trash anything. 
Install Linux but DO NOT install Lilo, boot from floppy for some time.
After that install Lilo on Linux root partition and read NT-BootLoader 
mini-HOWTO on how to make NT Boot Loader boot Linux.

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Re: Hamm not in Stable Dir

1998-07-24 Thread aqy6633
 I'm confused. I thought Debian 2.0 (hamm) was officially released last
 night. Does that not make it the stable version? Near as I can tell, the
 ftp.debian.org site still has 1.3 in it's stable directory. Should I be
 pulling from the stable dir or still from the frozen dir? Thanks.

I would advide you to wait till mirror is updated and hamm becomes stable.
There were some important bugfixes put in there last minute.

I am not aware of ANY updated mittor though.

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Re: Stupid unix

1998-07-23 Thread aqy6633
 Please excuse this lame non Debian specific question.  Is there a simple
 way to change all filenames in a directory so they are lowercase?  I would
 like to change all the *.cpp and *.h files in a project directory to be
 lowercase letters only.  I know this seems like a lame task but it would
 simplify working on some of my source at home on Linux.  I use Windoesn't
 4.0 at work which retains name case but doesn't use it.

In csh/tcsh:

foreach file (*.h *.cpp)
  mv $file `echo $file | tr A-Z a-z`
end

In sh/bash:

for file in *.h *.cpp ; do
 mv $file `echo $file | tr A-Z a-z`
done

And please don't call UNIX stupid, OK?


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Re: Pine not building from source

1998-07-20 Thread aqy6633
 dpkg-buildpackage
 
 It cranks through the building process than errors at the end.

Run it as a root. (There are other methods, but this is the simplest)

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Re: libs 2.........

1998-07-19 Thread aqy6633
 All needed libs and packages are in Slink.  I have a new E package
 coming down the pipes that is near 100%.  Existing package users will
 have to purge the old one.  Sorry (that's what you get for using
 experimental code (-:

Btw, why don't E package does not include a menu entry for itself?
(So that I could switch to it from other WM session?)
Also, I found some bad bug in it: if I want to change some xterm settings
on the fly using CTRL/Middle mouse button or CTRL/Right mouse button,
the menu appears, but draggind the mouse does not to move the highlight...

Thanks.

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Re: simple perl question

1998-07-18 Thread aqy6633
 I thought maybe something like:
 
 $CurrentTime=exec`date +%D %T`;
 print $CurrentTime;
 

$CurrentTime=localtime(time);

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Re: [off-topic?] real audio capture?

1998-07-17 Thread aqy6633
  I am running a debian frozen system and would like to capture a real audio
  stream for future use. That may sound silly, but I find that ra is
  somewhat at the mercy of the speed of the net and it wobbles and bobbles
  sometimes. does anyone know how I can capture the stream into an .ra file?

That's probably not waht you want, but there is an (unusable) kernel module
called paudio which was meant to allow capture of everything played 
through the soundard into the file in raw dsp or au format.
I hacked it quite a bit and now it works pretty seemlesly.
At least I am able to record any RealAudio translations.

I sent the patch to the author of original paudio module, and while he
seemed to be excited about it, he haven't release a new version of the module
yet. So, if anyone's like, I can e-mail the source.

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Re: Packages of FTP Client (GUI)

1998-07-14 Thread aqy6633
 I am looking for the packages of
 FTP Client (GUI) under X,
 Would someone know that?
 What is its name  location?

WXftp GUI FTP client was recently packaged and uploaded to Incoming.
You may get the packages (wxftp-doc, wxftp-gtk, etc) from
ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian/Incoming/

Alex Y.

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Re: ppp.log question

1998-07-11 Thread aqy6633
 RK and then a bunch of :
 RK Jul 10 07:27:14 chuy pppd[138]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0xebff]
 RK Jul 10 07:27:15 chuy pppd[138]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x86533e6c]
 
 Try adding noccp to the pppd options.

Well, you could just remove debug line from /etc/ppp/peers/provider file.

Alex Y.

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Re: dir /s *.* equivalent for unix.

1998-07-07 Thread aqy6633
 I just keeping getting all these lovely questions for you. At a console,
 if I want to search for a file or any files with a certain extension in
 the current directory and all sub directories and list them, what's the
 best way to do this? The equivalent in DOS would be dir /s *.whatever
 but this doesn't work with ls like ls -R *.deb, for instance. I can do
 ls -R | more and then use more's search ability but this is getting
 tiring. Man page isn't too helpful either.

1) ls -R | grep '.whatever$'
2) find . -name \*.whatever -print

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Re: Newbe Question - Setting up X11

1998-07-07 Thread aqy6633
 I new to Linux and I'm trying to setup X Windows. I loaded all the
 packages. When I run startx I get the following message:
 
 X: exec of /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_NONE failed
 
 Any idea what I've done wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

You should install one of the xserver-* packages which match your video card.
(most probably xserver-svga) and respond yes to making it default X server.
If console configuration wouldn't work (i.e. startx gives some errors),
install xserver-vga16 package (make sure to answer no on the question as to
whether make it default X server) and then run XF86Setup.
This is a wonderful graphic configuration utility.

Good luck.

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Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???

1998-07-07 Thread aqy6633
 anything. Anyway, could you compare RPMs and the Debian package manager?
 Also is there some kind of uninstall manager?

Main Debian package manager (dpkg) is very similar to rpm, they both can
install and uninstall packages, etc. What they were talking about is probably
dselect - front-end to dpkg which lists all the packages and let you select 
which packages you want to install, uninstall, upgrade, etc. and then download 
and install/uninstall/upgrade everything automatically.
The main problem of dselect is that user intrerface is a bit non-intuitive
and with 1400 packages in archive - a little messy. It does a good job, though.

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Re: win95/NT vrs. Linux For profetional program development

1998-07-05 Thread aqy6633
 That includes: How dificult is it for a programer to make the switch
 to programing for X instead of win95.

Well, programming for X is much more verstile then Win programming.
The thing is that you have a choice in a GUI Toolkit.
The oldest and most popular is Motif. It is not free and available from
several vendors for ~$100 (e.g. http://www.metrolink.com)
There is also a free Motif clone which is not quite ready for a prime time
(http://www.lesstif.org)

There are also several newer toolkits - Qt (which also has a Win port),
GTK+, XForms, etc.

And of course, there is Java (tm).

 Also what software is there to develop programs (Compiler
 environments) and to develop man/machine interface.
 I'm looking for a c/c++ based system. There is no problem with
 purchasing commercial programs if they exist.

c/c++ compilers are free and good. (gcc/egcs)

 I'm looking for something of the sort of Visual c++.

I remeber that I heard of several GUI builders for Linux, both free and 
commercial, but I don't use them so can't be precise here.

For an example of the GUI in X/Motif anf GTK+, you may visit the page
of WXftp, the application I wrote, at http://www.wxftp.seul.org

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Re: I hate smail and everything else!!!!

1998-07-05 Thread aqy6633
 I am trying and trying and trying so hard to get my email to work on my 
 Debian 1.3 system, but nothing I ever do seems to work. I am going nuts. 
 Smail has somehow gotten halfway installed on my system and it wont go 
 away. If I try and remove smail with this command:

To do it cleanly, I would suggest downloading smail*.deb file from
ftp.debian.org and installing it with dpkg -i smail*.deb
The just do dpkg --purge smail.

  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
 ... hmm, can't open /etc/smail/config?

Another way is to look into /var/lib/dpkg/info/smail.prerm
and see what causing the problem. No-brainer approach would be to edit this
file and put exit 0 right after #!/bin/sh line. I would hightly recommend
execute the following:
/etc/init.d/smail stop
update-inetd --comment-chars \#disabled\# --disable smtp

I myself wouldn't do it this way, but try to understand what does the
smail.prerm wants to make it happy.

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Re: need more info please

1998-06-30 Thread aqy6633
 Sure. Install the apt package for 'bo'
 (http://master.debian.org/~jgg/) and run apt-get update; apt-get
 dist-upgrade.
 
 Install it how?? From dselect or what?

Just download .deb file and install it with
dpkg -i apt*.deb

(as root).


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Re: glibc / libc6

1998-06-29 Thread aqy6633
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if someone could tell me what the difference between glibc 
 and libc6 is, 
 
 I've seen a few apps coming out these days written for libc5 or glibc , no 
 mention of libc6... is libc6 compatible with glibc.

libc6 is the name Debian uses for glibc2. They are just different names for
exactly the same thing.

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Re: X-window for debian2.0beta

1998-06-27 Thread aqy6633
 I have installed the base system of debian2.0beta,
 and I want to setup X-Windows too,
 
 (1) can I use the packages of X-window on the CD-ROM
  of debian 1.3.1R6 (distributed by Cheapbytes.)

Well, the answer to this question is not easy. Transition between 1.3 to 2.0
is assiciated with the changes of the c library, all the packages had to be
recompiled with new library. And though we have support for running old
binaries, huge packages like X could break.
You would be much better off downloading new X packages from ftp.debian.org

 (2) can I use the others applications' packages on the captioned
  CD-ROM.

The same thing as before, not recommended, but some of them will run with no
problems whatsoever.

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Re: X-window for debian2.0beta

1998-06-27 Thread aqy6633
 Hi! Alex,
 Which directory of ftp.debian.org will contain the
 new X-window packages? I can't find it.
 what is the latest version?

The easiest way would be to use dselect ftp method and point it to
ftp.debian.org dists/hamm/main dists/hamm/contrib dists/hamm/non-free
(Even better is to download apt package from 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/apt*.deb 
and then use apt method of dselect - WAY better).
Just in case you want to do everything mannually the new X packages
are in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/x11/

Alex Y.

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Re: Upgrade problems..

1998-06-27 Thread aqy6633
 2) After update, it says now use dselect to upgrade the rest of your
 system, then reboot.
 
 ?? How do I know what to upgrade? I would like to say; whatever needs an
 upgrade, if I have it installed, do it.
 Instead, I had to go through dselect, look at hundreds of packages, try to
 remember which I had selected, and decide if they need update. Am I missing
 something here?

Yes. Dselect will automatically mark the packages with newer version available
for upgrade. You may still look through them, and mark for removal the ones
you don't need to avoid extra time for download.

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Re: WXftp .debs??

1998-06-23 Thread aqy6633
 I was wondering if Alex's WXftp program have been debianized.  I scanned
 the ftp.debian.org directories but haven't found any.  Does anyone know if
 they exist and if so where?

No, it is not debianized. I received a request from Justin Burket to package
WXftp with GTK+ interface. He is not an accepted maintainer yet.
And I don't know how long it would take him...

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Re: printing man pages

1998-06-23 Thread aqy6633
   Can anyone explain me how can i print a man page? Is there any utility
 program for this?

Sure. 

You may convert the source of the man page to postscript file and then print
it, like:

zcat /usr/man/man1/ls.1.gz  | groff -tmandoc -T ps  ls.ps

You may also convert man page to a plain test file with

man ls | ul -T dumb ls.txt

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Re: help: vi ESC sequence entry used in PCL codes

1998-06-23 Thread aqy6633
 This can be generated in MS-DOG edit by:
 
 hold down the Ctrl+V, and press [
 
 BUT - I must do this in vi  So that my scripts will generate a
 readable report.

To enter any non-printable charachter in vi just do Ctrl-V and _then_
charachter to enter (like Esc).

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Re: Afterstep?

1998-06-21 Thread aqy6633
 Also, is there a way to allow xterm to add utmp entries?  At this point,
 knowing who is logged onto the machine is much more important than the
 machines security for me.

(as root)
chmod u+s /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

and uncomment 
XTerm*utmpInhibit: false
line in /etc/X11/Xresources

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Re: X11 libs problem

1998-06-12 Thread aqy6633
   There seems to be some sort of problem with the libraries in
 /usr/X11R6/lib.  Almost every program I install that isn't from a debian 
 package won't run because it can't find libraries from this directory.

You are using hamm, right?
My guess would be that the programs you install are libc5-based. And for them
to run you need to install libc5-based X11 libraries. They are included
into libc5, xlib6 (not xlib6g), xpm4.7, libg++27 packages.

ALex Y.

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Re: X11 libs problem

1998-06-12 Thread aqy6633
 I saw your message about libc5 and libc6 to another user.  I've also had 
 trouble
 with this.  Everytime I try to install libc5, it says it conflicts with libc6,
 and disables libc6 and all other packeages that depend on it when running
 dselect.  Is there a way around this?  I'm still trying to get x11r6 running, 
 but
 it requires libc5, which isn't working (because of what I said above.)  Any
 suggestions?

If you has hamm installed, you can install libc5 package available from
hamm/oldlibs section. it does not conflict with libc6.

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Re: X11 AGP Card

1998-06-07 Thread aqy6633
 Hi,
 
   I'd like to know if X11 on Linux support the AGP card?  I'd
   like to in particalur which card makers are supported and if
   there is any special configuration/setup I need to do.  Thanks!

Latest Xfree86 supports at least #9 Revolution 3D and Matrox Millenium II
AGP cards, may be a few others too.

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Re: Netscape in hamm

1998-06-04 Thread aqy6633
 I've recently upgraded to hamm, but can't install netscape.  Apparently
 it depends on xlib6 which I had to deselect because it conflicted
 with xlib6g.  Is there a version of netscape which uses the newer
 library?  Or is there a way of installing both?  

Yes. Install xlib6 (along with xpm4.7, libg++27, libc5) from oldlibs
section of the hamm.

 I thought that netscape had made the source code freely available, and
 that someone from debian had packaged this up - but I couldn't find it -
 what happened to it, or am I mistaken?

I wouldn't advise using it - still _very_ buggy.

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Re: Boot to Linux from NT; problem

1998-06-03 Thread aqy6633
 I setup my machine with NT and Linux, and followed the instructions in NT
 Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO.
 
 As per their instructions* I used bootpart to make the NT loader adjustments.
 
 When I boot, indeed I get the option for Linux from the NT loader
 (boot.ini), which points to the boot file made by bootpart; but NT reports:
 
   winnt root\System32\ntoskrnl.exe missing or corrupt
please reinstall a copy of this file.
 
 Well, the file is there in /winnt/system32/

How does your boot.ini (on NT partition) look like?

Alex Y.

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Re: I need an HTML Editor

1998-05-29 Thread aqy6633
 I would to get a good HTML editor for Linux. Preferrably something that 
 utilizes xwindows, GUI. I also want something that is not like Frontpage, 
 I like raw editing similar to Homesite, if you used that before. 

asWedit is probably what you are looking for. You should install it yourself
though. Check out http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/www/asWedit/
for full details.

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Re: scsi cdrom

1998-05-28 Thread aqy6633
 I hope I'm not in the dark about this due to mental deficiancy. I can't
 seem to mount my cdrom. I have a buslogic bt946c controlling a 1gig
 drive and a chinon 1X cdrom. It recognizes the cdrom at boot buty I
 cannot mount it. I either get special device not found error or not a
 valid block device error. Is this a common newbie (yes, I am) error?

Could you please give the command you use to mount CD-ROM?
During boot you see messages from the kernel about recognized devices.
It should say that it sees the CD-ROM as a device (something like) /dev/sr0 

You would then mount it with 
mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /mnt

Alex Y.

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Re: Word for Linux

1998-05-28 Thread aqy6633
 Is there a *.doc (MS Word) viewer / converter for linux  is it a deb  
 pkg?

http://www.csn.ul.ie/~caolan/docs/MSWordView.html

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Re: pon - When am I connected?

1998-05-28 Thread aqy6633
 As root I do pon whatever and 3 seconds or later it is connected.
 However, I cannot tell when except by trying it until it works.
 How do I tell when a connection has been negotiated? And how can
 I tell if it has failed? Using PAP for the moment, in case it matters.

plog

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Re: linux download

1998-05-28 Thread aqy6633
 how to download and install linux from your website on my computer?

Go to ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/disks-i386/current/

and read install.txt (or install.html)

Good luck.

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Re: NT: boot to Linux?

1998-05-24 Thread aqy6633
 NT provides a boot manager, with a startup option to boot to various OS's,
 clearly intended mainly for MSoft versions!
 
 Can this be used to provide a boot to a Linux partition?

Yes.

Check out Linux+NT-Loader mini-HOWTO.

Alex Y.

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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread aqy6633
 I remember reading somewhere that I can change the remote DISPLAY variable
 so I can see the applications on my local screen.
 My machine name is debian (I gave it a lot of thought...) I tried changing
 DISPLAY to debian:0 but it didn't work.

Remote host should be able to find your host by the name. So, in most cases 
it should be a fully-qualified domain name or (in case you don't have that - 
say because you are using PPP to connect to the internet) just a valid current
IP address of your debian box. So, set DISPLAY to something like
203.234.22.33:0.0 and it should work.

Good luck.

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Re: redirecting display of program over telnet (with DISPLAY)

1998-05-19 Thread aqy6633
  Remote host should be able to find your host by the name. So, in most cases 
  it should be a fully-qualified domain name or (in case you don't have that 
  - 
  say because you are using PPP to connect to the internet) just a valid 
  current
  IP address of your debian box. So, set DISPLAY to something like
  203.234.22.33:0.0 and it should work.
 Well I did it, and after trying xhost + , the response was:
 Xlib:  connection to 132.67.97.136:0.0 refused by server
 Xlib:  Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 xhost:  unable to open display 132.67.97.136:0.0
 (BTW: debian:0 didn't work)
 What should I do?

You should have done xhost + on your local box (debian).

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Re: Netscape - can't locate libXt.so.6....

1998-05-14 Thread aqy6633
  Anyway, install went okay, but when trying to start Netscape, I get the
  error mentioned in the subject line and Netscape dies
 
 You could do:
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 
 Or, what you really should do is configure you dynamic linker properly.
 Insert the line /usr/X11R6/lib into your /etc/ld.so.conf

I bet this line is already there :)
The problem is that netscape is libc5-based applaication and you need to have
all libc5-based libraries installed , i.e. libc5, xlib6 (in addition to
xlib6g), xpm4.7, libg++27.

Good luck.

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Re: Tulip Network drive

1998-05-11 Thread aqy6633
 (Alex Yukhimets) wrote:
  
 Does the hamm/kernel_2.0.33 include the Tulip network drive?
  
  Yes, but you may need to download and compile newer version of the tulip
  driver depending on the particular card you use. (I had to.)

   I have a NetGear 10/100 Fast Ethenet Card.  Does this require
   a newer version of the tulip?

No idea :)
I would give a 50/50 chance. You will see whether your card will _work_.
(It will be recognized by the kernel in any case).
In general, refer to http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
This is _the_source_ of the information about tulip driver.

Goos luck.

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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-11 Thread aqy6633
 I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
 a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
 logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
 works like deltree in dos.

rm -rf dirname

In general, refer to man rm, or man whatever. They have ALL the answers.

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Re: Tulip Network drive

1998-05-10 Thread aqy6633
   Does the hamm/kernel_2.0.33 include the Tulip network drive?

Yes, but you may need to download and compile newer version of the tulip
driver depending on the particular card you use. (I had to.)

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Re: Newbie question on backspace key in VIM editor

1998-05-07 Thread aqy6633
 Hi,
 
 I am having problems with my keyboard mappings. I can't get my backspace 
 key to work in VIM. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

Where do you use it- on console ot xterm?

In any case, there is a :fixdel command in vim, check out :help fixdel. 
But it can be done in a more consistent manner using keyboard configuration
and xterm translations.

Alex Y.

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Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?

1998-05-05 Thread aqy6633
 #3 if you are really talking about clustering and not just networking
 then I am afraid that I don't know what the status is in Linux in that
 regard.

I do :)

Check out http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/beowulf/ 
(Beowulf project page)

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Re: Internet from Windows/NT thru Linux

1998-05-05 Thread aqy6633
   I'm currently connecting to the internet from the Debian/Linux
   box.  I'd like to know how would I go about access the internet
   from other PCs (windows/nt) which are on the same network as my
   Linux box.

The keyword you are looking for is IP Masquerading
Red the HOWTO and have fun. Works perfectly here.

Alex Y.

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Re: Debian 2.0 Question

1998-04-30 Thread aqy6633
   The question I have is looking at the /binary-i386 Disk section, there 
 all
 the files and 2 I am not sure about. This is resc1440tecra.bin and
 drv1440tecra.bin. What exactly is the tecra? Do I need it for installing
 Debian 2.0? I checked the list archives and couldn't find anything about
 this for the last 2 months. 
 
   Also, is it smart for me to go ahead with the Debian 2.0 upgrade 
 starting
 out fresh? I do have some scripts - ppp.chatscript, reslov.conf, and a few
 others that will probably work with 2.0 that I have backed up and will
 probably use. But other than that, I was hoping to get all the updated
 files for 2.0 with this install. Is this Ok?

Yep.

Go ahead and do fresh install. Tecra disks are mainly for laptops.
As for ppp.chatscript and friends, old scripts will be of big help,
but the localtion of scripts themselves is changed, they are now in
/etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/chatscripts/provider

Good luck.

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Re: lib problem with netscape 4.05

1998-04-29 Thread aqy6633
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance.

Install xlib6 (not xlib6g) and libc5 packages.

Goos luck.

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Re: The effects of backspace and delete are reversed in vim

1998-04-22 Thread aqy6633
 An annoying feature of vim is that the effects of backspace and of delete
 are reversed compared to any other vi. It is particularly annoying because
 backspace will delete existing text, including newlines, when it is in input
 mode.
 
 How can I put these effects back to normal, please?

Hi.

Put the following in your ~/.vimrc

set t_kb=BS
fixdel

 Should this be regarded as a bug?

Probably.
This is upstream property, which is inconsistant with Debian
keyboard configuration (not sure). I have vim 5.1 and it is still there,
(in GUI mode, however, everything is OK).

May be it is a problem with xterm configuration, elm command lines are also
act this way.

Alex Y.

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Re: strcpy HELP!!!!

1998-04-17 Thread aqy6633
 #include stdlib.h
 #include stdio.h
 #include string.h
 
 void main(void)
 {
 char *temp1, *temp2;
 temp1 = malloc (10);
 strcpy (temp1, high all);
 strcpy (temp2, temp1);
 printf(%s %s, temp1, temp2);
 }
 /* error --- program recieved signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation Fault.
  * 0x40050be7*/

No wonder. You have to allocate memory for temp2 string before copying to it.
do temp2=malloc(strlen(temp1)+1); in between of two strcpy and everything's
gonna be OK.

Good luck.

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Re: Debian 2, What will it Have

1998-04-13 Thread aqy6633
  i did have a question about Xfree, it is my understanding that x will not
  be free after a new version?
  
  allan
 
 X is going to split. There will be Open Group's X11R6.(=4) which you can
 still obtain free but can not distribute for money without buying a
 License and there will be XFree86 which will remain GPL code for you to

I am sorry, but I think that my correction is important: XFree86 will
remain under old BSD-like license, NOT GPL. Making XFree86 GPL'ed would cause
a majot disaster for Linux.

Thanks.

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WXftp

1998-04-05 Thread aqy6633
Hi.

I just release the first public version of WXftp - Linux GUI ftp client.
It is available currently only from
http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/WXFTP/index.html

Please let me know what you think about it before I announce it to
lagrer audience then Debian user community.

Thanks.

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Re: I need hellp installing debian....

1998-04-04 Thread aqy6633
 i got my diskettes (rawimage files) wrote to disk and i goto install base
 it says unable to extract i redownload and got a fresh diskette out of
 my newly bought box of disks and it says it still unable to extract..If it
 helps i am using packerd bell legend supreme with win95 and a 56k modem a
 zip drive and a ide cdrom drive.please help me

What disk images do you use?
(Where did you get them? Specify the directory you downloaded them from.)

Alex Y.

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Re: disk partition problem

1998-04-03 Thread aqy6633
 on the Linux CD).  First I scanned and defragged my disk, then I tried
 to run fips.  Then it told me there was a file(s) at the end of my hard
 disk.  So I checked the documentation on fips and it listed a two files
 that might be at the last sector, but it wasn't true on my machine.  And

First, what kind of filesystem you have: FAT16 or FAT32. If FAT32, do you
use FAT32-capable FIPS?
When you do defrag, do you see some unmovable files at the end of your
drive?

Thanks.

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Re: disk partition problem

1998-04-03 Thread aqy6633
 Whoa - I'm out of touch. Is there a FAT32 capable fips? Tell me where.
 Richard
 P.S. Please

http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

Alex Y.

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Re: How to make kernel release socket..

1998-04-03 Thread aqy6633
 I try to implement server program for specific purpose.
 If the server is killed, I found that the server can't binding again
 the socket for about 1 min.
 How to make kernel release socket, instantaneously, when the
 process killed?
 In addition, when the client is died without closing socket,
 I found that the server receive SIGPIPE and then server died..
 How can we make the server ignore the SIGPIPE signal...

First, could you please avoid MIME messages to the list? Please...

Second, I guess you need some book on networking and UNIX system calls.
Killing the server means sending some signal to the process, like SIGINT.
To shut server cleanly, you have to close() socket before exit().
Use signal() to create a handler for a specific signal for that.

AS for the server dying on client closing the connection, I guess this is
more then acceptable behavior. (you are doing fork() upon accepting a
connection, don't you? in this case only child serving the connection will
die).

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Re: Problems with too much memory

1998-04-03 Thread aqy6633
 Recently we have been build a number of Debian proxy servers with lots of
 memory. We are using an Asus P2L97 Motherboard, PII 300 and three 128MB
 SDRAM DIMM modules. We have almost a hundred PII 233's on the same
 motherboard, but with only one 128MB DIMM. In a majority of the systems we
 have built we 3 DIMM's, we a getting weird and unexplainable (to us anyway)
 errors that seem to be associated with memory. Here is one such example that
 happened when we were trying to send some files of several megs in size.

Do errors persist if you set append=mem=128M in the LILO?

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Re: Problems with too much memory

1998-04-03 Thread aqy6633
 Yes they do. Every time we add or remove memory modules we use one of these
 lines in lilo.conf and rune lilo, then reboot.
 
 append=mem=128M
 append=mem=256M
 append=mem=384M
 
 We have to have the append=mem=128M in our standard PII 233 servers in
 order to make them use all of the memory and we see no problems with them.
 It seems as though we only have these problems when we have more than one
 module installed.

Yes, but if you have 3 modules installed, but still use
append=mem=128M in lilo, do you have problems?
I undersatand, that only one module will actually be used by a kernel in
this case.

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Re: I need help with installation....!!

1998-04-03 Thread aqy6633
 I get every thing goin except for the base diskettes then it say its unable
 to extract them, whats goin wrong???

What disks are you using - form bo or hamm?
hamm disks are not ready for a prime time yet.
In any case the error you mentioned probably indicates bad floppy disk.
Just create anotehr set of disks and try one more time.

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Re: mozilla.deb, get it while its hot

1998-04-02 Thread aqy6633
 You might want to tell everyone that it comes _without_ the news and
 mail readers.
  
 
 look at this as an added bonus. no more unreadable html mail from
 clueless newbies (or seasoned morons).

Hey, I don't like html mail either, but that was too hard. 
Dont you think so?

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Re: Problems with AccelX4.1 / Debian 2.0 [frozen]

1998-04-02 Thread aqy6633
  I had Debian 2.0 frozen running just fine with XFree and my ATI Mach64
  card.  I recently purchased a Diamond FireGL1000Pro card and AccelX 4.1
  which supports this card.  Upon doing a Minimal Install of AccelX,
  I cannot run X at all.  When I type startx, I get some symbol not
  found errors.  Unfortunately, I am not at home so I cannot list
  the exact errors (will do so later), but I wonder if anyone has
  encountered these problems or know of a possible solution.  My suspicion
  is that it is libc6 related or something.
  
 
 Well I didn't actually test this, but you could try to just install the
 server and config program, and nothing else.  The server itself runs fine in

Right, I did exactly that- install only server and fonts - this is less
then minimal install. No problmes then.

Alex Y.

 hamm, but the xinit and xdm included with it are the ones that complain
 about unresolved symbols, so I suggest trying to use the xinit that comes
 with debian..

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Re: X11R6.4 and Debian

1998-04-01 Thread aqy6633
 Alex let's not start the war, please... May be it is time to realize
 Alex the existence of non-free software and try to live in peace
 Alex with that, not try to ignore as much as possible its existence,
 Alex adjust our policy and practice to the changing
 Alex world. Proprietary software has its own and very important
 Alex role,let's understand that.
 
   X has gone commercial, and the PC 98 harware standard requires
  a NDA, which means that the free software ommunity has been locked
  out. And you propose we just turn the other cheek? And help all the
  people who are locking us out? 

Turning the other cheek won't do any bad to us. Turning to destructive
position won't do any good. I prefer to be on a safer side.
Also, nothing seems to be as bad as you are trying to show, and no need
for turning the cheek for a slap.

   If we change our policy and give in, there shall be no Debian
  or Linux around for much longer, IMO. I think adjust our policy and
  practice to the changing world shall destroy what we have, here in
  the free software world. I find it ironic that consumers of a free
  software product are advocating that it move to be more accomodating
  to proprietary schemes of software development. 

   Should we require a $25000 membership fees for using Debian?

I don't think there will be need for that. But those who want derive
distribution based on Debian for *commercial* use might need to pay some
fee. That's bad, but gives us a chance to survive intsted of being locked
up and continue to play with outdated software and hardware.

Also, let's not do any sharp moves right now. Let's wait a little bit.

Thanks.

Alex Y.
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Re: non-free software

1998-03-31 Thread aqy6633
 I have just installed debian from cdrom (infomagic), 
 and some of my favorite packages, available
 on  Red Hat, are missing from the Debian 
 distribution. These packages (netpbm , xv) are in the non-free
 subdirectory of packages in www.debian.org, but in the distributions
 available on cdroms ( I checked other cdroms).

Download them from ftp.debian.org/debian/non-free/

Alex Y.

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Re: non-free software

1998-03-31 Thread aqy6633
 Bob Prior to the Official CD, some vendors, such as CheapBytes,
 Bob included substantial parts of non-free on their CDs while others,
 Bob including Infomagic, ignored non-free.  Since we made the
 Bob Official CD available with the bo release, all CD vendors seem
 Bob to have taken the path of least resistance, and reproduced the
 Bob Official CD as is.
 
   Hey, cool. I like that. Seems like the social contract in action.

I was always amaised how all revolutionaries are alike...
All of them want to reach their goals by sacrifycing a little man
(a user in our case). And of course, for the purporse to make his life
better :)

Good luck.

Alex Y.
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Re: Installing Mouse Driver

1998-03-30 Thread aqy6633
  No. While inastalling X or gpm you should tell coniguration program that
  your mouse using /dev/psaux device, and the protocol is ps2.
  The simplest way would be to exit from X, dpkg --purge gpm,
  then install gpm package. It will ask you questions about the device 
  on the protocol of the mouse. 
 
  Why not just run /usr/sbin/gpmconfig ?

I didn't say that to avoid additional if statement in my sugestion:
*if* you have gpm installed (check it with dpkg -s gpm) do gpmconfig,
if not, install gpm and *if* it doesn't ask you to configure (existing old
conffiles) do gpmconfig.

dpkg --purge gpm
dpkg -i gpm*   
looks much simpler :)

Alex Y.

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Re: Install process

1998-03-30 Thread aqy6633
 1.) is there a log file of the choices make during the installation
 process that begins with resc1440.bin execution?
 2.) can one do a partial reinstall that will modify some of the choices
 previously make by stepping through the install menu?

The answer would be No to both, but...
Once you have a running system, you can change practically anything you
want without even partial reinstall. Please be more specific about the 
problem you have.

Alex Y.

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