Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 04:12:10PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de [2021-08-13 19:11:43] wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > > [...] > >> Plonk ? [...] > > [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html > > How odd

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 10:59:04AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > Be considerate to each other. Be polite - be helpful. [...] Thanks, Andrew :) > Trying to make Debian a better place starts one post at a time. That's one > of the reasons why I volunteer for the Debian community team.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))

2021-08-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? > > Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier yet > we used heliograph. Signal fires on hilltops were slow,

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:06:50PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Nevertheless there are rare cases only root can make changes. > > You mean cases where `sudo zsh -l` is not an option? Up to now, there is exactly one case I am aware of when you'd wish you had a root password: at boot, the root

Re: Debian 10.6 boots to black screen; “no screens found(EE) in log”

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > Hi > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/616926/debian-10-6-boots-to-black-screen-no-screens-foundee-in-log > > same problem like this guy, but sadly no anser. You also have a "2019 5k iMac"? Because that is very impo

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 12:15:07PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:49:49AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Up to now, there is exactly one case I am aware of when you'd wish > > you had a root password: at boot, the root file system is deemed > > too broken

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:00:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > You don't really get that far if your root FS is unmountable. > > Hmm... if it truly can't be mounted, then the system can't read > `/etc/passwd` and then whether there is a root account or not makes > no difference. That's right

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 12:06:18PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-15 at 12:00, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > > > Hi > > > > apt-get update > > Ign:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates InRelease > > Err:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 05:21:41PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-15 4:31 p.m., Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > > Keep notes as you go. Try and raise single issues - it'll help. > > > > All the very best, as ever, > I'd like to have as much patience you do ;-)

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 06:45:56PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 16-08-2021 11:29, lou wrote: > > Andrew, i thought you r moderator because you post monthly list guideline > > > > and you speak kindly with some authority when some list user deviate [...] > small collective of the politically correct

Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports

2021-08-16 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 08:27:18PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 03:07:06PM -0400, songbird wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > ... > > >> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib > > >> non-free > > >> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experi

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-17 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 01:53:16AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 17/08/2021 23:48, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >Gene, > > > >You have two upgrades to do. > > > >One from stretch -> buster. 9-10 That takes you from 2017 -> 2019. > > > >If you can reduce your /etc/apt/sources.list by commenting out third

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-18 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > [an abridged version of the release notes] > > > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to f

Re: Debian 11 Live USB with persistence?

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:24:27PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I wanted to do something exactly like that some months ago. > > What I ended up doing is using a normal Debian installation > > with an overlay file system mounted over the root. > > FWIW, you can do simpler and just use a normal

Re: metaSendsEscape not working after power outage

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:03:34PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 12:16:29 (+1000), Nicholas Croft wrote: > > > > After a power outage metaSendsEscape won't work for my main user. It is > > defined in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm and covers all users including root. > > I ad

Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...]

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:18:37AM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with > moral superiority syndrome. This is a crudely obvious flamebait. Why do you do this? - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: [...] > Do you really think it's that bad? I actually agree that it is manageable. OTOH, things are changing, and change must be tackled. Community is these days more diverse than it used to be. This is a Good Thing, but it makes communica

Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...]

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 04:27:08AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-19 2:18 a.m., deloptes wrote: > > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > > You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with > > moral superiority syndrome. > > >

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:49:39PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 20-08-2021 01:12, Steve McIntyre wrote: [...] > > Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to warnings; repeated bad > > behaviour may lead to temporary or permanent bans for offenders. > > And who is it who determines what is

Re: bbc script

2021-08-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:56:22PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Also relevant: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/115 Great explanation, Greg. I wish I had half of your talent :) One small addendum: the "predefined strings" in the case statement

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 01:53:08AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > o/ > > Is there a way to have "smart fans" that only go as fast > as needed? As Polina says, the infrastructure should be there. If your fans have three leads on their cable, one of them is PWM control for fan speed. The CPU itself

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:42:20AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > Start here [1]. Enjoy. > > > > [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fan_speed_control > > Yes, but ... [...] > There are no working fan sensors, all readings are 0. > Make

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:56:19AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: [...] > Fan connectors are 3-pin! Aha. So there's a chance. But still your drivers don't seem to play along. Hm. Ahem... it seems I was wrong: the third pin in three-pin conector seems to be tacho (i.e. speed feedback), not PWM [1].

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a motor > (fan). I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM, but

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 04:02:48PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, > > one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM > > That's what you get with the 4th wire/pin? A

Re: smart fans

2021-08-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:02:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] > What is "BLDC"? Brushless (electric) DC motor [1]. Back Then (TM ;-), to turn an electric motor around you had to switch around the magnetic field in the coils at (about) the right time. This was accomplished by sliding c

Re: smart fans

2021-08-23 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 08:57:09PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > [...] My reasonably recent power drill still has brushes. > > The 18V cordless power tools from Ryobi that I like come in > several versions each and the most expensive ones are > brushless

Re: smart fans

2021-08-23 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:20:34PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] > Thank you. Do you know where there is information that explains how > a BLDC computer fan motor responds to variable supply voltage? Not specifically for computer fans, and the controller electronics (which is a must for

Re: CUPS permissions

2021-08-26 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 06:24:01PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 26 Aug 2021 at 11:31:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 04:25:54PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > > I also forgot: after carrying out the corrected procedure, log out and > > > log back in. > > > > Th

Re: CUPS permissions

2021-08-26 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 02:26:54PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 08:16:23PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 06:24:01PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 26 Aug 2021 at 11:31:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 04:25

Re: old handicam movie camera and kino

2021-08-29 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 09:25:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Did work 15 years ago, but despite a new PCI-E firewire card, does not > now work with kino, no remote controls. [...] > [21286.593537] firewire_core :06:00.0: giving up on node ffc0: reading > config rom failed: bus reset No

Re: old handicam movie camera and kino

2021-08-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 04:55:46AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 August 2021 03:33:22 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 09:25:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Did work 15 years ago, but despite a new PCI-E firewire card, does > > > not now work with kino, no re

Re: old handicam movie camera and kino

2021-08-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 09:21:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 August 2021 06:18:46 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Can't-open-permission-denied or can't-open-no-such-file-or-directory? > > > no such file. Then Greg's proposal upthread might be a good bet. Cheers & good luck -

Re: old handicam movie camera and kino

2021-08-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 09:56:43AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > That wasn't the magic twanger Greg. but he was up the right path. /dev/dsp is part of the (by now archaeological) OSS sound interface. To make /dev/dsp "appear", you need a kernel module faking it. For me, "sudo modprobe snd

Re: Solved! Re: old handicam movie camera and kino

2021-08-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 11:14:46AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 August 2021 10:16:01 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > [...] Catting /etc/passwd to it actually produces some sound, > > albeit the accent is a bit... slithery ;-) > > And was an endless machine gun until ctl+c'd here.

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:11:33AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: [...] > OK, several people suggested the kernel command-line option > net.ifnames=0. Since I almost never change hardware configurations > this is probably OK even with my two NICs, one on the mainboard, the > second is a PCI card. I

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:19:10AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > > >This sounds like a stale-hash situation. According to my understanding, > >the shell will typically keep a cache of what path it found a given > >command at when it checked for that command in $PATH, so it > >doesn't have > >to re

Re: gcc-10: options order important?

2021-09-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 12:59:27PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 02:12:46PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > > A man page a found online [1] says linking happens as Greg described, > > > and this is true looking at a 6 year old copy of that page on > > > archive.org. So seems strange

Re: masked service file

2021-09-05 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:56:30PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > * play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal attacks Yes, pretty please. Thank you, Andrew. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Trouble upgrading Debian

2021-09-05 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 09:01:22PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: [...] > I did not receive the Greg answer. The only 3 messages I have in my > folder now are the 2 you sent, and the one I receive for my message: Here's the start of the thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/09/thread

Re: masked service file

2021-09-08 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 03:55:25PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-05 16:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:56:30PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>* play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal > >>attacks > > > >Yes, pretty pleas

Re: How to improve my question in stackoverflow?

2021-09-09 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 04:27:01PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > Book.cpp:1:10: fatal error: Set: No existe el fichero o el directorio > [closed] > > I trying compile an example of a book. William, [DISCLAIMER: I'm not a C++ expert by any measure. I do passably well with C. For example, I

HTML mail [was: How to improve my question in stackoverflow?]

2021-09-09 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 07:45:43PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: [...] > First, most folks on tech mailinglists despise HTML email. The original mail was a passable MIME multipart/alternative with a plain text part. I /think/ that is OK, what do others think? Perhaps you can teach you mailer to p

Re: HTML mail [was: How to improve my question in stackoverflow?]

2021-09-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:41:55AM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de writes: [...] > Additionally, in this C++ question thread, the source code was given > in HTML and text parts of the e-mail and while the `#include` > statements were all on separate lines in the HTML, they appear as >

Re: How to improve my question in stackoverflow?

2021-09-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 02:16:31PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > > > Moreover, the included things are files, and by convention they > > have a suffix ".h", for "header". I'd expect the above to look > > rather like > > > > #include [...] > This is true for C, but not for C++. > > With C++ head

Re: How to improve my question in stackoverflow?

2021-09-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 07:32:28AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 08:41:02AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > The original mail was a passable MIME multipart/alternative > > with a plain text part. I /think/ that is OK, what do others > > think? > > See below. > > On Fri,

Re: HTML mail [was: How to improve my question in stackoverflow?]

2021-09-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 03:01:59PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, September 10, 2021 05:20:46 AM Pankaj Jangid wrote: > > writes: > > > (I'm just asking, because I've seen this complaint a couple > > > of times for a well-formed multipart message: personally, I'd > > > be OK with it

Re: copy directory tree, mapping to new owners

2021-09-12 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 10:46:01AM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: [...] > Looks exactly like what "rsync --usermap=FROM:TO" can do. There is also > "--groupmap" option for mapping groups. Never underestimate rsync :-) Actually, I do read its manpage from time to time. Should do it more often, perh

Re: html only email

2021-09-12 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 06:59:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Had better have a very interesting subjct line or it does not get read > here. I have, for security reasons, told kmail to not show html, and to > override that takes up to 5 mouse clicks. And... instant black background for free!

Re: copy directory tree, mapping to new owners

2021-09-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:45:02AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 12/09/21 6:52 pm, john doe wrote: [...] > >If you are doing this in a script, I would use a temporary directory. > >That way, in case of failure the destination directory is not rongly > >modified. > > > >EG: > > > >$ rsync >

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

2021-09-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:59:28PM +0200, Thomas Amm wrote: > On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 16:46 -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the dark > > [...] > > Regards > > > > Conrats! You have just made it into everybody's kill file. A somewhat friendl

Re: copy directory tree, mapping to new owners

2021-09-13 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:17:05PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 13/09/21 7:04 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:45:02AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > >>On 12/09/21 6:52 pm, john doe wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>>If you are doing this in a script, I would use a temporary

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 04:33:55PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 9/13/2021 11:02 AM, Brian wrote > > On Mon 13 Sep 2021 at 10:18:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> So, I'm considering Debian for a new homebrew MX gateway I want to set > >> up, but it depends... > >> > >> I'm a form

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > What does this command report? > > > > > > ;see --norun application/octet-stream:/dev/null > Jonathan

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 09:34:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > BTW, your shell command, > > !see --norun application/octet-stream:/dev/null > > will give you an answer in the context of a subshell, and > not necessarily in the context of mutt itself [...] Definitely, that's another po

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-16 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 08:47:32AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > >I don't know why there's a ";" in front of it. > > That's (part of) my shell prompt [...] aaah :-) Thanks for clearing that up. My hunch was at least

Re: (unable to start a new discussion) Re: Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-16 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 09:48:55PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:46:43 -0300 > Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > Why am i unable to start a new discussion? I have sent 4 messages! > > They have one attachment that is less than 150KiB - so, they are not > > considered big, for the

Correction [was: unable to start a new discussion]

2021-09-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 08:23:23AM +0200, tomas wrote: [...] > I'd say... yes: the start of this thread kind of proves [1] it. Duh. Not a new thread, so not "kind of proves". Sorry. Cheers > [1] for a very sloppy value of "proof" :) very sloppy, i

Starting a new thread by replying [was: (unable to start a new discussion)...] but not my home network...

2021-09-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 12:25:00PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] > Guilty as charged. :-( > > > Using Thunderbird, clicking "Reply List" and changing the Subject to > "new subject [was: old subject]" is NOT the way to do it. Clicking > "Write", and cutting and pasting the Subject and/

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
o have their shell change the > terminal's title on a regular or semi-regular basis [...] I've no Mate terminal here (just plain xterm), but this fourth way is the one Debian chose for me: the shell prompt (via the PS1 variable) is the one working the magic. I guess Mate terminal work

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 09:58:17AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 09:44:58AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Ah yes, good old Debian /etc/skel/.bashrc at work. Presumably you > mean this section: > > # If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir > case "$TER

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 01:58:16PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ echo $PS1 > > \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ > > > > There has been a lot of time that i use a fancy PS1. But it does not > touch th

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 03:06:28PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > Em 19/09/2021 14:41, to...@tuxteam.de escreveu: > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 01:58:16PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > >> > >> > >>> tomas@trotzki:~$ echo $PS1 > >>> \[

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 04:21:56PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > Em 19/09/2021 15:48, to...@tuxteam.de escreveu: > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 03:06:28PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: [...] > Fine. I understand that you say that i could change my PS1 to always > reset the title. Specifically this

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 02:36:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 19 Sep 2021 at 21:27:49 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 04:21:56PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > Em 19/09/2021 15:48, to...@tuxteam.de escreveu: > > > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 03:06:28PM -0300,

Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11?

2021-09-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 04:53:09PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: [...] > The PS1 change i said, i meant, is that i used a changed PS1 since many > years ago [...] Thus, i expected that everything should continue > working as before [...] Yes, definitely: something changed which is breaking your e

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 08:14:25PM -0400, lou wrote: > > On 9/21/21 3:49 PM, piorunz wrote: > >. > >Many Linux distributions are made that way. After all, we want to come > >away from closed source software. Debian tries to avoid all closed > >source and/or non-free software, as per The Debian Fre

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:27:56PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > FUSE = slow + CPU wastage > > Using a filesystem the way it was intended is much cleaner solution. On the flip side, using an in-kernel file system is running code in kernel space which was conceived and written in happier times. Ba

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 04:23:28AM -0400, lou wrote: [...] > i don't think your lecture is convincing OK. > some claim they can read binary or reverse-engineer > > forcing user to use some ink might violate anti-monopoly law This sounds like someone pro-regulations... > > if printer maker do

Re: Development permissions

2021-09-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 04:06:10PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 01:59:58PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:27:56PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > FUSE = slow + CPU wastage > > > > > > Using a filesystem the way it was inten

Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 01:42:50PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-09-24, wrote: > > > > As soon as there is non-free software in it, all bets are up. > > Actually, the idiom is, and rest assured I'm chiming in purely informatively > here, as I myself navigate in a foreign tongue *avec plus ou moin

Re: static photo album generator

2021-09-26 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 09:47:25AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Is there a static photo album generator in the Debian repos? > > I.e., you have a bunch of photos in a dir, neat with good > filenames etc, you execute the generator program and get > a HTML file with thumbnails etc, all done and comp

Re: evince cache of recent files?

2021-09-26 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 09:02:05AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > Where does Evince store its memory/cache of recent files that its loaded > in bullseye please? Currently it is only showing the last file, but > under Debian 10 it showed the l

Re: Debian 11: Unable to detect wireless interface on an old laptop computer

2021-09-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 04:43:44PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > I have a dual-boot OS configuration on my HDD: Debian 11 and Microsoft > Windows 10. > > My CPU belongs to Intel 4th generation (Haswell) and I even installed > packages such as firmware-misc-nonfree firmware-iwlwifi firmware-rea

Re: Debian 11: Unable to detect wireless interface on an old laptop computer

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 04:47:07PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: [...] > And N-M is not "buggy". [...] Uh-huh. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 03:18:56AM +0200, Borden wrote: > I sympathise with your frustrations. > > The open source "community" - especially Debian - is not known for its > civility [...] We must live in different worlds, then. Things go wrong from time to time, but we keep trying. Intervening in

Re: buggy N-M (was: Debian 11: Unable to detect wireless interface on an old laptop) computer

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 09:00:47AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 09:41:22AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 04:47:07PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > And N-M is not "buggy". [...] > > > > Uh-huh. > > What a great argu

Re: buggy N-M (was: Debian 11: Unable to detect wireless interface on an old laptop) computer

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 10:28:49AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: [...] > What fried my brain last night was on trying to remember if nm had > been too "complicated" and thus not user-friendly for *me*. I still > see other people rave about it. That's cool. Definitely. > At the end of the day,

Re: Problem installing

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 11:03:23AM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, guys, > > I have a problem installing Debian Sid on the VittualBox machine, running on > Gentoo Host. > > (I need Debian, because the project I'm working with use Debian Sid, > and my test is failing). > > Unfortunately, trying to

Re: USB network adapter with no connectivity

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 10:47:15AM -0500, Angel Rengifo Cancino wrote: > Hi: > > > > Does "ip a" show BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP or > > BROADCAST,MULTICAST,MASTER,UP,NO-CARRIER? > > > > This is how it looks: > > 6: enx42f2e9ecec39: mtu 1500 qdisc > pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000

Re: Problem installing

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 11:38:35AM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, Thomas, > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 11:18 AM wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 11:03:23AM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: > > > Hi, guys, > > > > > > I have a problem installing Debian Sid on the VittualBox machine, running > > > on

Re: Problem installing

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 01:18:03PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, [...] > > > > The error message's text would be useful here. > > > > > > [quote] > > > The Configuration Manager has failed. You can try and re-run it or you > > > can skip it and continue > > > [/quote] > > > > Hm. Sorry. Doesn't

Re: buggy N-M (was: Debian 11: Unable to detect wireless interface on an old laptop) computer

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 07:52:19PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 28 Sep 2021 at 19:12:27 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:12:21 +0200 > > wrote: > > > [... no software isn't buggy...] > > It's a matter of degree. All software has bugs, even if you haven't > > seen them yet. > > Ne

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:31:18PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Greg Wooledge > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:32:02 -0400 > > Are you in csh/tcsh? > > I haven't set a shell. According to https://wiki.debian.org/Shell > it's bash. It might be willing to tell you: echo $SHELL

Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net)

2021-09-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:18:16PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi Dan > > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 3:09 AM > > From: "Dan Ritter" > > To: "Stella Ashburne" > > Cc: "debian-user mailing list" > > Subject: Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - > > Conne

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 03:50:35AM +0200, Borden wrote: > >> > >> You really should consider stopping to reply and leave things as they > >> are. > > > >I agree, it's time to stop this thread, I am satisfied with things how they > >are. > > And nobody's learnt anything [...] Yes, I, at least, le

Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net)

2021-09-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:14:05AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: [...] > What baffels me is though, at what length someone would go to not use the > default > methods to connect via wifi. Especially when they showed limited experience > in networking in the first place. This remark was, IMO,

Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net)

2021-09-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 05:48:19PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > At least that's how I learn. > > > > That is not me. People tend to be different. That makes things... interesting. > I will not encourage anyone to

Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net)

2021-09-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 02:05:50PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: [...] > No apology necessary. OK, thanks. > I know I am opinionated and right in your > face (and a reverse snob as my wife regularly points out). > But I am also a big boy, I can take it if you yell back at me. Still I try hard

On community (un-)friendliness [was: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums]

2021-09-30 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 06:38:04AM +0200, Borden wrote: > > In fact, annoying volunteers tends to reduce their voluntarism... > > That's fair. But people age [...] Folks, I'm out of this discussion anyway, but please: change your subject line. Be considerate towards the original poster and don't

USB memory stick quality [was: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive]

2021-09-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:13:48PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: [...] > What I suggest you to consider: > (1) Although never having had trouble myself, for being prepared for > a USB hardware failure, which others are warning of [...] Not my main file system just the backups, but this is a very im

Re: Jessie iceweasel: This Connection is Untrusted

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 12:22:10PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Honestly - I'd suggest disconnecting the machine from the Internet until > > you are able to upgrade it - it's far enough out of support that it's now > > ELTS. > > I'd suggest that you consider

Re: Jessie iceweasel: This Connection is Untrusted

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 01:20:01PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > So a brute force attempt would be to rename the two directories and > the file to other names and to then copy the Debian 10 stuff to the > original names. The new /etc/ssl/certs would start empty and be > populated by update

Re: USB memory stick quality [was: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive]

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 07:22:22AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > One more lesson applies to usb memory sticks. All of the guts visit China > before going into the cases with those trademarks on them. Definitely. Tell me where else to find high-skilled cheap labour and good tech infrastructure. A

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Jessie iceweasel: This Connection is Untrusted

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 06:32:21PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > as tomas predicted it can be done by handwork. > > Tobias Diekershoff gave a good hint but i was not smart enough to make > use of it before i found out the clicky way. Tobias is almost always spot-

Re: Buster wget: The certificate of 'lists.debian.org' is not trusted

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 07:09:45PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > new certification problem, this time on buster. > > While looking why wget on Debian 8 does not work with lists.debian.org > i learn that it does not work on Debian 10 either: > > $ wget -d https://lists.debian.org/debia

Re: Buster wget: The certificate of 'lists.debian.org' is not trusted

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 08:25:44PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > The number of 126 certificates would match /etc/ssl/certs. > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > ...but mine loads... 127 certs :-/ > > [...] > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2772 Jan 28 2021 ACCVRAIZ1.crt > > -rw-r

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Buster wget: The certificate of 'lists.debian.org' is not trusted

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 03:18:22PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > I have a buster system that was up-to-date from the last point-release > and kernel (2021-09-10 18:22:47). > > The only certificate expiration problem I have observed (and still > observe, having taken no action) is with apt-

Re: How i can resolve the problem of packages?

2021-10-03 Thread tomas
On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 01:57:00PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:33:40AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > *apt-get update * > > Err:13 http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt buster-pgdg InRelease > > The following signatures couldn't be verified because the p

Re: Debian 11 on Raspberry Pi3 Can't login

2021-10-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 08:43:22AM +0200, Jan-Erik Schröder wrote: > Good Morning, > > yesterday we installed Debian 11 on our raspberry pi3's as part of our > Youth Programming Course and cannot login. Thank you in advance Could you be a bit more specific on how you did that installation? By de

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