netscape mail time strangeness
(Please CC: any replies as I'm not subscribed to the list -- even in digest format, it's just too big! :) OK, I'm using the potato debs of netscape communicator 4.61, smotif version. As you'll probably be able to see if you look at the headers of this message, Netscape Messenger doesn't obey my time zone settings (which are properly set up -- Australia/Adelaide, +0930). I took a look on the Netscape site (searched under support for wrong AND date), and found a page which says this: Question: I have the time on my system correctly set to my local time zone-- that is, issuing the date command returns the correct date and time. Despite this, the time stamps on any email I write are wrong, consistently a few hours ahead or behind. Similarily, with email I receive, the time stamps issued by their mailer are correct, but Messenger adds or substracts the same amount of time from each message's timestamp. How do I get Netscape to display the right time? Answer: Logged in as root, make the following symbolic link: ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo /usr/lib/zoneinfo This should force Communicator to use the local time zone, making the dates and time show up correctly. Now, I've done this, but it still doesn't work correctly! Anyone had any experience with this buglet? (Assuming this does work somehow and I've just messed it up, shouldn't the postinst script handle this?) Or should I file this as a bug against the package? Ali Graham. -- / I'm the '4' in 404 Not Found /
New glibc java problems
Apologies if this is off topic for this list; I remember seeing that a list had been opened up for debian java but when I went to the mailing lists page on www.debian.org I didn't see it Anyway, I recently decided to check out Java, and (not being entirely sure what I was doing) installled the jdk1.1, jdk1.1-dev, guavac and tya packages. Didn't get a chance to check anything out until today and having retrieved installed a new glibc via apt-get last night, am not sure what is causing this problem (however, the glibc docs say something about recompilation being necessary for errors such as these) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ java -version /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so: undefined symbol: _dl_symbol_value (this happens no matter what I do with the java program... appletviewer has the same problem, and guavac segfaults.) I'll just list the various package versions ii guavac 1.0-5 A java compiler. ii jdk1.1 1.1.7v1a-2 JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) - Runtime o ii jdk1.1-dev 1.1.7v1a-2 JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) ii libc6 2.1.1-0pre1GNU C Library: shared libraries ii libc6-dev 2.1.1-0pre1GNU C Library: Development libraries and hea ii tya 1.2v4-2JIT-compiler for Java If anyone has recently set up the JDK on debian, and could help, 'twould be much appreciated :) If someone else can replicate it, I'll file it as a bug, but its probably just my system. ali. ps: please Cc: messages to me as I'm only subscribed to the digest version of this list :)
Re: Vote Linus for Person of the Century
George Bonser wrote: Don't even think Linus should BE the person of the century. That honor probably goes to Thomas Edison. We owe our current culture and style of living to that guy. His experiments with his lightbulb led to the discovery of the Edison effect which led DeForest to do some more experiments which led to the Vacuum Tube which led to the Transistor, which lead to the IC Chip. Not only was Edison's work responsible for laying the ground work for radio and television, he also played vital roles in bringing motion pictures and recorded music to the public. If I was going to vote for anyone from a technological field, my vote would go to Tesla. Edison was an exploiter of other people's work and in invetrate political game-player when it came to suppressing other technologies than the ones that he had the rights to. But I, myself, am going to vote for Gandhi. The world is larger than the United States, and his example is the one that has impressed me most. If we're talking pure *impact* value, of course, it's hard to go past Lenin/Stalin, Mao and Hitler ali.
Off topic posts (OFF TOPIC)
Please, people, is there a debian-political mailing list where posts that don't specifically relate to *using* debian could be directed? Threads that mainly consist of pointless pedantry or marketing schemes could be profitably removed from this already high volume mailing list, IMNSHO. ali. :)
Re: vfat init_module message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [begin boot messages] Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) e2fsck 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 /dev/hda2: clean, 29143/526336 files, 542724/2104515 blocks Loading modules: cdrom Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $ vfat /lib/modules/2.0.34/fs/vfat.o: init_module: Device or resource busy lp lp1 at 0x0378, (polling) [end] Why mentioning that the resource is busy? I don't have a cd in the cdrom. Why is it loading the cdrom module anyway? I have it mentioned in '/etc/fstab' to enable 'mount /cdrom'. I may be able to help you with a couple of things; did you rename your old modules directory (in /lib/modules) from '2.0.34' to something else before you compiled? If you didn't, it doesn't overwrite the old modules (I think), and they are inconsistent with the new kernel. Best to do this and delete the old module directory afterwards. This is probably the origin of the 'device or resource busy' message, as far as I can remember. With the other, the file '/etc/modules' determines which modules will be loaded on boot. If you just have the one line in there with auto on it, kerneld will do things for you automatically if you compiled in support for it. As it is, cdrom is probably one of the entries Take all this with a grain of salt, because I'm relatively new to Linux; but I did this last week and encountered these problems then :) (Of course, I'm getting a few annoying messages on booting 2.2.0-pre9 now that I'm not sure how to fix :) ali.
Kernel compilation - niggling issue.
I've just (for the first time) tried to compile the kernel (2.0.34) on this hamm box. I was a bit nervous, being rather new to this linux thing, but all went quite well once I realised that I had to move the old /lib/modules/2.0.34 directory before building installing the new kernel. The only problem I have now is that an error message comes up near the end of the boot sequence: Cannot load char-major-10 (It repeats -- i.e. it is shown twice.) AFAICT this correlates to misc.o, and I didn't select anything that needed the misc.o module, and therefore it wasn't built. Why does the machine then look for it? (BTW, I changed /etc/modules to merely contain the line auto -- the rest is commented out. This means that kerneld should now be running the show.) I found that I can remove this message by adding the line alias char-major-10 off to /etc/conf.modules. However, (and here is the point of this rather rambling mail), will this break anything? Why do I need to specifically turn off something that shouldn't be registering with anything else anyway? [I must say, however, after a few weeks running a Slackware box that had been preinstalled for me, Debian is certainly a breath of fresh air in comparison :)] TIA for any help! ali.