netscape mail time strangeness

1999-09-14 Thread Ali Graham

(Please CC: any replies as I'm not subscribed to the list -- even
in digest format, it's just too big! :)

OK, I'm using the potato debs of netscape communicator 4.61, smotif
version.

As you'll probably be able to see if you look at the headers of this
message, Netscape Messenger doesn't obey my time zone settings (which
are properly set up -- Australia/Adelaide, +0930). I took a look on the
Netscape site (searched under support for wrong AND date), and found
a page which says this:

   Question: 

   I have the time on my system correctly set to my
   local time zone-- that is, issuing the date
   command returns the correct date and time. Despite this,
   the time stamps on any email I write are wrong, consistently
   a few hours ahead or behind. Similarily, with email I receive,
   the time stamps issued by their mailer are correct, but Messenger
   adds or substracts the same amount of time from each message's
   timestamp. 

   How do I get Netscape to display the right time? 

   Answer: 

   Logged in as root, make the following symbolic link: 

   ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo /usr/lib/zoneinfo 

   This should force Communicator to use the local time zone,
   making the dates and time show up correctly. 


Now, I've done this, but it still doesn't work correctly! Anyone had
any experience with this buglet? (Assuming this does work somehow and
I've just messed it up, shouldn't the postinst script handle this?)

Or should I file this as a bug against the package?

Ali Graham.

-- 

/ I'm the '4' in 404 Not Found /


New glibc java problems

1999-03-14 Thread Ali Graham

Apologies if this is off topic for this list; I remember seeing
that a list had been opened up for debian  java but when I went
to the mailing lists page on www.debian.org I didn't see it

Anyway, I recently decided to check out Java, and (not being
entirely sure what I was doing) installled the jdk1.1, jdk1.1-dev,
guavac and tya packages. Didn't get a chance to check anything out
until today and having retrieved  installed a new glibc via
apt-get last night, am not sure what is causing this problem
(however, the glibc docs say something about recompilation being
necessary for errors such as these)

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  java -version
   /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: error in loading shared 
libraries:
   /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so: undefined symbol:
   _dl_symbol_value

(this happens no matter what I do with the java program... 
appletviewer has the same problem, and guavac segfaults.)

I'll just list the various package versions

ii  guavac  1.0-5  A java compiler.
ii  jdk1.1  1.1.7v1a-2 JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) - Runtime o
ii  jdk1.1-dev  1.1.7v1a-2 JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit)
ii  libc6   2.1.1-0pre1GNU C Library: shared libraries
ii  libc6-dev   2.1.1-0pre1GNU C Library: Development libraries and hea
ii  tya 1.2v4-2JIT-compiler for Java

If anyone has recently set up the JDK on debian, and could
help, 'twould be much appreciated :) If someone else can
replicate it, I'll file it as a bug, but its probably just my
system.

ali.

ps: please Cc: messages to me as I'm only subscribed to the digest
version of this list :)


Re: Vote Linus for Person of the Century

1999-03-12 Thread Ali Graham
George Bonser wrote:
 
 Don't even think Linus should BE the person of the century. That honor
 probably goes to Thomas Edison. We owe our current culture and style of
 living to that guy. His experiments with his lightbulb led to the
 discovery of the Edison effect which led DeForest to do some more
 experiments which led to the Vacuum Tube which led to the Transistor,
 which lead to the IC Chip.  Not only was Edison's work responsible for
 laying the ground work for radio and television, he also played vital
 roles in bringing motion pictures and recorded music to the public.

If I was going to vote for anyone from a technological field, my vote
would go to Tesla. Edison was an exploiter of other people's work and
in invetrate political game-player when it came to suppressing other
technologies than the ones that he had the rights to.

But I, myself, am going to vote for Gandhi. The world is larger than
the United States, and his example is the one that has impressed me
most.

If we're talking pure *impact* value, of course, it's hard to go past
Lenin/Stalin, Mao and Hitler

ali.


Off topic posts (OFF TOPIC)

1999-03-12 Thread Ali Graham

Please, people, is there a debian-political mailing list where
posts that don't specifically relate to *using* debian could
be directed?

Threads that mainly consist of pointless pedantry or marketing
schemes could be profitably removed from this already high volume
mailing list, IMNSHO.

ali.

:)


Re: vfat init_module message

1999-01-25 Thread Ali Graham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [begin boot messages]
 
 Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97)
 e2fsck 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
 /dev/hda2: clean, 29143/526336 files, 542724/2104515 blocks
 Loading modules: cdrom Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10
 10:52:11 david Exp $
 vfat /lib/modules/2.0.34/fs/vfat.o: init_module: Device or resource
 busy
 lp lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
 
 [end]
 
 Why mentioning that the resource is busy? I don't have a cd in the
 cdrom. Why is it loading the cdrom module anyway? I have it mentioned
 in '/etc/fstab' to enable 'mount /cdrom'.

I may be able to help you with a couple of things; did you rename your
old modules directory (in /lib/modules) from '2.0.34' to something else
before you compiled? If you didn't, it doesn't overwrite the old modules
(I think), and they are inconsistent with the new kernel. Best to do
this
and delete the old module directory afterwards. This is probably the
origin of the 'device or resource busy' message, as far as I can
remember.

With the other, the file '/etc/modules' determines which modules will be
loaded on boot. If you just have the one line in there with auto on
it, kerneld will do things for you automatically if you compiled in
support for it. As it is, cdrom is probably one of the entries

Take all this with a grain of salt, because I'm relatively new to Linux;
but I did this last week and encountered these problems then :) (Of
course,
I'm getting a few annoying messages on booting 2.2.0-pre9 now that I'm
not sure how to fix :)

ali.


Kernel compilation - niggling issue.

1999-01-20 Thread Ali Graham

I've just (for the first time) tried to compile the kernel
(2.0.34) on this hamm box. I was a bit nervous, being rather new
to this linux thing, but all went quite well once I realised
that I had to move the old /lib/modules/2.0.34 directory before
building  installing the new kernel.

The only problem I have now is that an error message comes
up near the end of the boot sequence:

Cannot load char-major-10

(It repeats -- i.e. it is shown twice.) AFAICT this correlates
to misc.o, and I didn't select anything that needed the misc.o
module, and therefore it wasn't built. Why does the machine then
look for it? (BTW, I changed /etc/modules to merely contain
the line

auto

-- the rest is commented out. This means that kerneld should now
be running the show.)

I found that I can remove this message by adding the line

alias char-major-10 off

to /etc/conf.modules. However, (and here is the point of this
rather rambling mail), will this break anything? Why do I need
to specifically turn off something that shouldn't be registering
with anything else anyway?

[I must say, however, after a few weeks running a Slackware box
that had been preinstalled for me, Debian is certainly a breath
of fresh air in comparison :)]

TIA for any help!

ali.