iregl_apl_loadDatabase] Error APL: apl initialize fail

2014-12-05 Thread Buntunub
Hello. This happens consistently in Wheezy (KDE) when I open a terminal which always loads on the top left side of the screen by default, and then close the terminal window using the x button. This causes my xserver to crash every time. Can anyone help with this please? -- View this message in

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-04 Thread Buntunub
Laurent Bigonville-5 wrote Le Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:18:36 +0100, Martin Steigerwald lt; Martin@ gt; a écrit : Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI:

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-26 Thread Buntunub
Wow, its Lawyer time! Or so one would think reading through this thread. Is this what the Debian community has devolved to? Quibbling over technicalities of the Debian Constitution? Sure gives a lot of weight to Mr. Hess's departing words. That document has turned into a poison pill for this

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Buntunub
I understand your reasons for thinking Systemd is bad for Debian. I do, and I also agree with some of them. However, Debian is composed of a diverse group of people who have every viewpoint under the sun from Systemd is the bane of Linux, to Systemd is the best thing to ever happen to Linux. No

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-22 Thread Buntunub
Lisi Reisz wrote Systemd is available in the current stable, (see below) and people have had time to play and fall in love with it (or not). So in how many Stable versions of Linux are you saying that it should be available, before those who wish to do so will have had long enough to play

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-17 Thread Buntunub
Good work Ian. It is a well framed GR, and thank you to the seconds. The previous post about the Social Contract is spot-on. I believe the majority of folks who use Debian, do so because of the freedom of choice it provides in their computing environment. We should not ever allow for or

Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

2014-10-17 Thread Buntunub
Pierre Frenkiel wrote hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown did not solve the problem. If this is the future

Re: debian-advocacy?

2014-10-13 Thread Buntunub
This list is the perfect place for such things. The decision to make Systemd default in Jessie was done by the Technical Committee, not by general vote, so I guess it was decided that the whole discussion about Systemd is a bug because it was relegated to such. This is the mailing list used to

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the Universal Operating System

2014-10-04 Thread Buntunub
Tom Collins wrote Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. While many do agree with your sentiment, there is no need to post inflammatory comments such as this. In fact, you do a lot to detract from the cause of those who feel as you do by doing this, so stop, please. If you can't say

Re: systemd

2014-10-04 Thread Buntunub
John Hasler-3 wrote There may be packages into which the upstream authors have twisted Systemd dependencies inextricably, but that is not anything Debian can change. -- John Hasler jhasler@ Elmwood, WI USA And sir, that is the problem with Systemd and Debians acceptance of it as