Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > > > available as

Re: Copying installer ISO to USB Flash

2024-09-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 09:52:32 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > Having machines with different constraints I have downloaded DVD1 and > Netinst ISO's. I have flash drives with obsolete ISO's. For reference > I have [ https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb ] available. > > Questions: > 1. Do the

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > available as a single file. > > I need it available when the network is not. > > It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when > installing from DVD1 were

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 Sep 2024 at 15:00:14 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > David Wright writes: > > On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 11:56:25 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > > >> Why do you think that? Which part of the fsync manpage explicitly covers > >> fsync's effect on d

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Sep 2024 at 12:08:29 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 7:59 AM wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian? > > > > Was in the original post: "Th

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Sep 2024 at 23:45:42 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > Felix Miata [24-09/15=Sun 22:01 -0400]: > > F12 should get you the Gigabyte BBS menu. > > Something happens when I press , but I can't > tell what, because I can't read the screen, because > it is out of sync, using an unsupported re

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 11:56:25 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > David Wright writes: > > On Mon 09 Sep 2024 at 11:52:19 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > >> David Christensen writes: > >> > >> > 2. sync(1) is unnecessary. > >> > >> Does

Re: hibernate area

2024-09-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 19:14:54 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 02:53:01PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I have an NVME drive as well as a spinning-rust drive. I've got swap on > > > the > > > spinning drive, but I'd like to put the hibernate area on the NVME. I

Re: tab completion being overenthusiastic

2024-09-09 Thread David Wright
On Sat 07 Sep 2024 at 09:58:32 (-0400), e...@gmx.us wrote: > Got it. It was in ~/.bash-vars which was sourced from ~/.bash_profile . Is > that a standard thing, or just some "brilliant" idea I had once upon a time? If you mean the file itself, you might try stat ~/.bash-vars and looking at the

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-09 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Sep 2024 at 11:52:19 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > David Christensen writes: > > > 2. sync(1) is unnecessary. > > Does it even do anything wrt device files? sync(2) says "sync() causes > all pending modifications to filesystem metadata and cached file data to > be written to the under

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Sep 2024 at 11:16:53 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 09:58:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > > &g

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Sun 01 Sep 2024 at 17:20:41 (+0200), Hans wrote: > > So your command line would read … > > > > # … … > > I believe, instead of using dd for copying to the usb-stick, one might want > to > use dcfldd for it. > > dcfldd is en enhanced version of dd with hashsum check during copy. It was >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread David Wright
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > &g

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Sun 01 Sep 2024 at 01:05:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/31/24 22:58, David Wright wrote: > > And so should we assume Gene's report that he needs to actually login > > again after the screen locks itself is likely caused by confusing the > > unlocking screen wit

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 15:20:46 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > When I input that string into a computer running Debian, it produces > an error message: > > 2024-08-31 13:07:57 dpchris

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch04s03.en.html > > # cp de

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 18:01:59 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > On Wednesday, 28-08-2024 at 11:31 Trish Fraser wrote: > > >On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: > > >> > > >>> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the > > >>> screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Aug 2024 at 20:48:38 (-0700), John Conover wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > with an .iso? > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? I plug in a USB stick (which will get completely overwritten), check from the logs what its device name is (/dev/sdX), then, as root

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2024 at 11:13:16 (-0400), gene heskett wrote⁰: > On 8/27/24 21:03, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 15:42:56 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > > David Wright composed on 2024-08-26 14:36 (UTC-0400): > > > > > > > ¹ touch Ctrl, th

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

2024-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 18:16:13 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 20:01 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Which key is Compose? > > I've gone to KDE System Settings => Keyboard => Advanced => Position of > compose key and selected the right-ALT

Re: tbird hot keys.

2024-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Aug 2024 at 10:10:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > So "some" shortcuts can be [...] disabled, but it doesn't tell you > > how. But maybe if there is a particular hotkey that's causing a > > problem, someone else might have had the same problem and written > > an add-on you can look fo

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 20:32:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:03:02 +0200 Hans wrote: > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > > apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get full-upgrade does a good > > job. > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and

Booting from USBs on old laptops, was Re: laptop installs

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 21:42:22 (-0400), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > In the case of two of the three laptops I have here to play with, it's > simply a matter of telling it to boot off the DVD drive and then inserting > the appropriate disc and going on from there. In the case of this other one

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 14:58:14 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/26/24 14:37, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] > > > came across a dangerous situation yesterday. > > &

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 17:16:07 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > Although it claims to be built with locale en_US.UTF-8, it doesn't do > anything with "compose" keystrokes such as "Compose" / O to make Ø. but > it's perfectly happy to let me input them if I create them elsewhere, > such as in this mail

Re: need help killing screen blanker

2024-08-26 Thread David Wright
On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] > came across a dangerous situation yesterday. > > Basically using the lathe as a jig to hold a long piece I was tapping > by hand, powered up but stopped. screen blanker came on and locked me > ou

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Aug 2024 at 20:31:24 (-0700), Mike Castle wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 4:31 PM David Wright wrote: ↑↑↑ odd time to pick > > Irrespective of the time taken, that could trigger the OOM killer, > > couldn't it. Very risky, unless you&#

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-24 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Aug 2024 at 17:27:37 (+0200), sentini...@virgilio.it wrote: > > Il 20/08/2024 04:53 CEST David Wright ha scritto: > > > > What's the output from: > > > > $ driverless > > > > (This is normally step one in configuring a printer.) >

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Aug 2024 at 21:34:45 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 01:45:06PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 22 Aug 2024 at 17:21:04 (+), Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > > Mike Castle dixit: > > [...] > > > > >I suspect that

Re: wait until swapoff is *actually* finished (it returns too early)?

2024-08-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Aug 2024 at 17:21:04 (+), Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Mike Castle dixit: > > >Does cryptdisks have the ability to display what is in use at the > >moment? Maybe polling that before executing the stop? > > That’s what I would like to ask and why I sent this eMail. Is cryptdisks_stop f

Re: upgrade to bookworm causes breakage

2024-08-19 Thread David Wright
On Mon 19 Aug 2024 at 20:26:35 (-0400), Gary Dale wrote: > On 2024-08-19 19:24, Mike wrote: > > Bob Mroczka wrote: > > > I attempted to upgrade my system from debian 11 to 12 following the > > > instructions provided at > > > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/update-upgrade-debian-11-to-debian-12-bookw

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread David Wright
On Mon 19 Aug 2024 at 16:23:31 (-0600), Tom Dial wrote: > On 8/19/24 05:19, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;} > > Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). > > I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]: > >   1. minimalist inst

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-19 Thread David Wright
On Sun 18 Aug 2024 at 18:44:30 (+0200), sentini...@virgilio.it wrote: [ … ] > At the “connection” line it says: Connection: > ipps://EPSON%20ET-2810%20Series._ipps._tcp.local/ [ … ] > in the next screen it tells me: "Unable to add printer: cups-driver failed to > get PPD file" - see error_log for

Re: PDF editor

2024-08-06 Thread David Wright
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 21:27:00 (-0400), Arbol One wrote: > Anyone knows about a PDF editor for Debian? Perhaps you could summarise what you learnt, and what you feel you didn't learn, from the thread that you opened here six weeks ago. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/06/msg00667.html

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2024 at 19:29:14 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Lee wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > I personally remove mDNS and Bonjour from my machines. mDNS is not the > > > source of truth on my networks. Rather, DNS is the source of truth in > > > my n

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 12:59:45 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:40:32PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > > I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, > > .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? > > home.arpa was defined by

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 11:26:38 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:56:42PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > > What is the purpose of mDNS ?  > > > >  It seems to be for multicast?   > > It is not /for/ multicast IP, it /uses/ multicast for name resolution. > In a nutshell

Re: nftables ssh Could not resolve service Servname not supported

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 14:25:45 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > However I have one issue, my nftables is not recognising the label > 'dns' for port 53, although it is recognising labels for other ports > that I have been using (e.g. ssh, http, ntp, https). My /etc/services uses the term "domain"

Re: can this iso be put on a micro-sd

2024-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 20:04:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/3/24 19:39, gene heskett wrote: > > [ISO]    debian-12.6.0-arm64-DVD-1.iso > > > Wrote it to /dev/sdl, won't mount on sdl or sdl1. gparted says sdl2 is > the dos partition?? With amd64-netinst ISOs, all three of /dev/sdX{,1,2} sho

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2024 at 14:37:08 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > > > What is best practice for a local LAN prefix? (I have never found > > > conclusive instruction). > > > > home.arpa > > see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8375.html > > A fairly straight forward statement in this RFC, just n

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2024 at 09:40:44 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > On Friday, 02-08-2024 at 00:48 David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > > my

Re: nsswitch what should come first

2024-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Aug 2024 at 10:32:27 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 14:30:05 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > my nsswitch.conf is "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" > > i don't remenber changing it in the past few decades > > i recently had a situation th

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 09:45:44 (-0500), allan wrote: > I've run Sid exclusively for years; the last time I broke it badly > enough to justify a reinstall was in 2013 and that was for not paying > attention during an upgrade :) > > My heartburn is I would have expected to see this change in a > ch

Re: info is not dead

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:23:48 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > The GNU info document

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!; was: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2024 at 09:23:16 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote: > > I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf > > When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if > it is a configuration file at first (e.g.

Re: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:43:01 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-28 00:07:56 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 04:25:32 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2024-07-27 20:25:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > On

Re: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-27 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 04:25:32 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-27 20:25:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:17:19 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > The configuration got broken by a *systemd* upgrade: > > > > > > * Drop /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf symli

Re: info is not dead

2024-07-27 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > The GNU info documentation is really intended to be read in Emacs where > > some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs version. The stand alone > > GNU info browser is rather

Re: switch users and still use display

2024-07-27 Thread David Wright
On Sat 27 Jul 2024 at 23:21:06 (+0200), Hans wrote: > I never found an official documentation about "su -p", just found it myself, > but I read, "su -" shall do the same. It does not. When you write something like this, can you accompany it with a reference? The essential package util-linux's man

Re: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-27 Thread David Wright
On Sat 27 Jul 2024 at 09:26:49 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On 2024-07-26, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > The /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf symlink has been removed > > > (currently in unstable) *without any announcement*, so that > > > the /etc/sysctl.conf file (which is still documented, B

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

2024-07-26 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 Jul 2024 at 14:29:34 (+), MailGuard01 wrote: > I am trying to complete the network configuration on Debian 12 using the > default > installed `ifupdown` package. I have noticed some confusing behavior with > `ifupdown` while following the manual pages. > > Specifically, when I place

Re: How to update environment variable output

2024-07-23 Thread David Wright
On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 15:00:12 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 13:38:48 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:31:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 23:22:52 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > >

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-23 Thread David Wright
On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 22 Jul 2024 21:20 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): > > The machine I'm typing on is running bullseye and was installed with > > linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64. It's running linux-image-5.

Re: How to update environment variable output

2024-07-23 Thread David Wright
On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:31:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 23:22:52 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > The day# in my command prompt increments when I start in the morning. Maybe > > I need to press enter. > > That makes it sound like you're setting the YEAR et al. var

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Mon 22 Jul 2024 at 18:10:24 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > > [...] > > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > > have rolling releases? I mean

Re: update system periodically

2024-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Sun 21 Jul 2024 at 22:01:58 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 18:43:28 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > I run the following from root's crontab: > > > > apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/"; > >

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 00:25:27 (+0500), 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: update system periodically

2024-07-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 22 Jul 2024 at 05:47:58 (+0800), cor...@free.fr wrote: > I have been running an old debian 11 for many days. > is it safe to run 'apt upgrade' and 'apt update' periodically? > for example put them into crontab. I run the following from root's crontab: apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy=

Re: Switch boot entry by power-on reason

2024-07-21 Thread David Wright
On Sun 21 Jul 2024 at 10:45:59 (+), David wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 at 09:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > hede wrote: > > > > Technically it should be possible, as dmidecode can show the reason: > > > Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes > > > System Information > > > ... > > > Wake-u

Re: Kernel 6.9.9 (amd64) results in huge initrd / initramfs size

2024-07-19 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 Jul 2024 at 12:13:28 (+1200), Ash Joubert wrote: > On 2024-07-20 03:39, Celejar wrote: > > Thanks much! > [...] > > As per another message in this thread, I've already filed a bug against > > linux-image-6.9.9-amd64, but I suppose I should update the report with > > this information, indi

Listing packages installed on broken system, was systemd errors

2024-07-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Jul 2024 at 21:35:39 (+0100), mick.crane wrote: > I installed on a fresh disk the nightly build of Trixie and it works a > treat and it configured the monitor to it's highest resolution using > the nouveau module thing. > Unfortunately I broke my previous Trixie installation trying to get

Re: stty permanently undef "start"

2024-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Jul 2024 at 16:00:48 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12024-07-10): > > You could -- but if you do so, you should definitely surround it with > > a check for stdin being a terminal (test -t 0 or equivalent). > > Does bash execute .bashrc when it is not interactive? Someon

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Acer Aspire 5 A515-45 touchpad suddenly stopped working on debian 12.5

2024-07-06 Thread David Wright
On Sat 06 Jul 2024 at 08:39:57 (+0200), Steinar Bang wrote: > > Steinar Bang : > > > Sometime (a day or so maybe) before <2024-06-26 Wed 19:59> the touchpad > > stopped working on my Acer Aspire 5 with a MATE desktop on debian 12.5. > > > At the time the laptop had gone 50 days since the last

Re: How to get an email notification every time a package is updated

2024-06-30 Thread David Wright
On Sun 30 Jun 2024 at 02:31:28 (-0700), B wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately I already researched that > and there are problems. On Sat 29 Jun 2024 at 22:46:00 (-0700), B wrote: > It seems crazy that in all the history of Debian, nobody said "There's > a package I care about and

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 15:05:34 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > With chrony, you can monitor the RTC over time and adjust the system > > clock in accordance with its drift rate at boot time, without > > correcting the RTC itself, or you can actually set the RTC from the > > system cl

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Jun 2024 at 06:53:48 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 02:05:48PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 11:14:34 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > > > David writes: > > > > It's not clear to me which NTP (p

Re: How to get the *.deb file?

2024-06-29 Thread David Wright
On Sun 30 Jun 2024 at 06:10:17 (+0200), DdB wrote: > Hi, > > sometimes, i did fetch the deb file from https://packages.debian.org > even for another OS than the one, i am running, just to inspect its details. > > This time, i was unable to find/download the deb file for > https://packages.debian.

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

2024-06-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Jun 2024 at 17:08:04 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-06-28 20:53:50 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > Yes, it almost certainly can be done with a single sed (or other > > similar tool) invocation where the regular expression matches > > precisely what you want it to match. But

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 17:03:47 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > David has said that chrony can do fancy things involving the hardware > > clock. Maybe you should investigate that solution path. > > I'm trying to find out how to fix it Right, rather than how to work > around the problem (I alre

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 14:54:42 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > It's not like you can say "Oh, I was asleep for 7.5234 hours, so I need > > > to adjust the HW clock time forward by X seconds because I know it runs > > > a bit slow." That information is not available to you. > > > > It is if /e

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 11:14:34 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > It's not clear to me which NTP (protocol) packages are set up to use > > the util-linux stuff, assuming you're not rolling your own > > startup/shutdown scripts. (That's the problem in the Subject line, in > > a sense.)

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 09:41:06 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > Stefan writes: > > The question remains: how to make use of that info upon wakeup to > > adjust the "initial" time before NTP takes over. > > hwclock -a can do this. Sure it can. > If you use it be sure ntpsec isn't trying to do > the

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 10:06:23 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 09:48:12 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Oh, indeed, thanks. I had computed it manually from > > `journalctl | grep stepped` and it gave close enough results. > > The question remains: how to make use of that i

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-27 Thread David Wright
On Wed 26 Jun 2024 at 12:50:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:25:38 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > I wrote: > > > 12 Noon and 12 Midnight works. > > > > David Wright wrote: > > > Except that The Wanderer's "strictly co

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

2024-06-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 27 Jun 2024 at 12:48:03 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > I have a machine whose RTC clock is drifting significantly and it is > often suspended for several days. I run NTP so the drift I see when > I wake the machine up gets fixed by "stepping" the clock after a while, > but that can take a

Re: how2 format a flash drive

2024-06-25 Thread David Wright
Entire attribution and quote removed to avoid the mailing list treating this post as spam. I got the impression that Lee used windows in the past (and may still), which is why I didn't suggest the same as Joe. (Lee did write "on Debian"). And by devices, I was thinking more of TVs, printers, scan

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-25 Thread David Wright
On Mon 24 Jun 2024 at 23:34:45 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > On 24/6/24 21:41, Erwan David wrote: > > Le 24/06/2024 à 22:38, Curt a écrit : > > > When my mom came to visit one time in the nineties she requested I > > > change my alarm clock to AM PM time (it is now 15:25 here in the Gallic > > > re

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-25 Thread David Wright
On Mon 24 Jun 2024 at 17:12:18 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > > (Similar logic could be used for 11:59:59 PM, 12:00 M, and 12:00:01 AM, > > where the standalone M would stand for "midnight". That does expose one > > unfortunate weakness of this system: unless you introduce an

Re: how2 format a flash drive

2024-06-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Jun 2024 at 16:23:16 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Lee wrote: > > My question is: how do I reformat the flash drive so it's usable as a > > "normal" flash drive again? > > You have to delete the partitions of the USB stick which came with > the ISO. > Then you create one or more parti

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Jun 2024 at 18:46:26 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 23/6/24 00:52, David Wright wrote: > > > Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when replying to mail, > > > which is where I saw what I thought was a system error - but in fact > > > was a

Re: Publishing Formats

2024-06-24 Thread David Wright
On Mon 24 Jun 2024 at 22:34:39 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > Someone gave me an old SCEPTRE display with a screen 11.5 inch by 22 > inch. I never before saw the usefulness of a wide screen. > > A reader such as Atril can take advantage of the wide screen, allowing > me to zoom in until the

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 08:41:51 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 23:25:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > > story at the start of the new millennium. > > > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati da

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 12:31:41 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:52:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 07:15:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > If I boot up two computers > > > > and they display different times,

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 12:26:05 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:51:32 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 10:02:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are >

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 12:52:55 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Have you ever pondered why the 'international date line' is so convoluted? Only on the odd occasion when an area decides to cross it, for whatever reason. Like Samoa recently. And before that, the creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+1

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 18:35:34 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: > > You could pronounce your time written above as: > > > >"It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are UTC+10:00" > > Excellent.

Re: dictd?

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 09:04:29 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 00:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > > In my system mode bits on my home dir are `drwx--` so only my user > > > have access to it. > > > > Well, yeah. That

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 06:45:58 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > "the system's > > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > > and others disagree 🙂

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 06:48:14 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:17:42PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > >

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 07:15:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 23:17:42 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > And what am I to call the time that a system > > issues using that system default time zone? > > If you mean the current time translated into that t

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 10:02:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 18:35:34 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: > > > You could pronounce your time written above as: > > > > > >"It's Thu 20

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 21:00:38 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 18:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly > > 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been > > 08:13:36 UTC  What's wrong with my system c

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > "the system's > > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > > and others disagree 🙂 > >

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 07:07:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > > no users are logged in? > > Daemons will almost always use the syste

RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 04:12:07 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 4:05 AM wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > [...] > > > I notice that man timedatectl says: > > > > > >set

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 10:04:45 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 19:40:30 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [..

Re: testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 19:29:31 (-0400), songbird wrote: > "df -x tmpfs" does the magic and gives me the better view that is > more useful. FWIW I define dfree as: df --output=source,ipcent,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target -B 100 -x tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x fuse.portal | sed -E 's/([^ ] )/\

System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 19:40:30 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 18:22:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > &g

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 18:47:41 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 18:13:36 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > > > Some of my aliases stopped working after months of working as I > > > exp

Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichev

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