Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system.

[Dennis Wicks]

Thomas Schmitt wrote on 5/6/22 13:24:

Hi,

Greg Wooledge wrote:

I think you're vastly underestimating the average age of subscribers on
this list.


Huh ? ... What ? ... Age ? ... Whom do you call old ?



I am 83. First desktop was an IBM PC running IBM DOS Version 
1, I think. Also saw my first virus on that machine!


Those were not "the good old days"!

Cheers,
Dennis

Re: Solved (partially) Re: What happened?

[Dennis Wicks]

The Wanderer wrote on 4/21/22 17:14:

On 2022-04-21 at 14:37, Dennis Wicks wrote:


Dennis Wicks wrote on 4/16/22 18:16:


When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a
virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I
could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks
in the vm. And zfs file systems worked.

The main problem was that dpkg would kill the system trying
to setup
linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64.



Mark this SOLVED (partially): software problem.

dpkg continued to kill the system trying to setup
linux-headers. I discovered that dpkg will purge the
linux-headers package and then I can try installing again.
On one try I was running pg on dkms in an attempt to see
what was going on that killed the machine. Two times I got a
long screen full of tasks running various types of cc just
before the crash.


What's "pg"? It doesn't appear to be e.g. a shell builtin ('type pg'
reports 'bash: type: pg: not found'), and I don't find it in the
archive. For example,

$ apt-file search -x /pg$

finds only two results, from the package grass-core, which appear to be
(parts of? related to?) database drivers.


I set up my pg to repeat every few secs and spooled the
output to a file. Then I started a tail on that spool file.
Surprise!! It ran to completion!

Here is my analysis: I have a big system. An AMD 8 core
Ryzen running at 3.8GHz with 64GB of memory. I think that
without any other load on the machine some task is getting
started before it should and either steps on a task that
should have finished by that time or can't find something
that was supposed to be created by a task that hasn't run
yet. It has to be something serious because all the
screens/sessions are cleared and the system is frozen. I
have to use the reset button to re-start and once or twice I
have had to cycle the power to get re-booted.


This doesn't look like a terribly likely scenario to me, but if it *is*
what's happening, that's definitely a bug - though a bug in what is less
than clear.


Sorry, pg = ps

That is the only thing I can think of that it might be. I 
have run dpkg --configure -a or with a specific package name 
and every time the package was linux-image-... or 
linux-headers-... it killed my machine. It happened with 
kernel 4.19.0-18-amd64 and 4.19.0-20-amd64. I ran it a dozen 
or more times with the same results. The two times that I 
caught any output from ps that was useful it was running 
many tasks of cc.

Solved (partially) Re: What happened?

[Dennis Wicks]

Dennis Wicks wrote on 4/16/22 18:16:
When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a 
virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I 
could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks 
in the vm. And zfs file systems worked.


The main problem was that dpkg would kill the system trying 
to setup

linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64.

I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Debian 10.11. 
That process managed  to install linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64 
and everything was fine. Then somewhere in the process of 
installing additional software apt? killed the system trying 
to setup linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64. (I found out that I 
could do dpkg --configure for each package individually and 
skip the linux image and headers.)


And, now I can't copy/paste between host and vm, can't 
access host disks from the vm, and the zfs file system 
doesn't work! And then because dpkg killed the system so 
many times the archive file is locked somehow and the 
various apt(x) programs and dpkg won't run, so I can't 
install any tools or different software to try and fix the 
problems!!


ARGHHH!

If anybody has any hints or tips or pointers toward any 
possible solutions I would appreciate hearing them!


TIA,
Dennis

PS; dpkg says;

E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg 
--configure -a' to correct the problem. W: Could not lock 
the cache file; this usually means that dpkg or another 
apt tool is already installing packages.  Opening in 
read-only mode; any changes you make to the states of 
packages will NOT be preserved!





Mark this SOLVED (partially): software problem.

dpkg continued to kill the system trying to setup 
linux-headers. I discovered that dpkg will purge the 
linux-headers package and then I can try installing again. 
On one try I was running pg on dkms in an attempt to see 
what was going on that killed the machine. Two times I got a 
long screen full of tasks running various types of cc just 
before the crash.


I set up my pg to repeat every few secs and spooled the 
output to a file. Then I started a tail on that spool file. 
Surprise!! It ran to completion!


Here is my analysis: I have a big system. An AMD 8 core 
Ryzen running at 3.8GHz with 64GB of memory. I think that 
without any other load on the machine some task is getting 
started before it should and either steps on a task that 
should have finished by that time or can't find something 
that was supposed to be created by a task that hasn't run 
yet. It has to be something serious because all the 
screens/sessions are cleared and the system is frozen. I 
have to use the reset button to re-start and once or twice I 
have had to cycle the power to get re-booted.


No progress on other problems. I will open other threads for 
them.


Thanks for the comments. They got me thinking!

Dennis

What happened?

[Dennis Wicks]

When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a 
virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I 
could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks 
in the vm. And zfs file systems worked.


The main problem was that dpkg would kill the system trying 
to setup

linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64.

I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Debian 10.11. 
That process managed  to install linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64 
and everything was fine. Then somewhere in the process of 
installing additional software apt? killed the system trying 
to setup linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64. (I found out that I 
could do dpkg --configure for each package individually and 
skip the linux image and headers.)


And, now I can't copy/paste between host and vm, can't 
access host disks from the vm, and the zfs file system 
doesn't work! And then because dpkg killed the system so 
many times the archive file is locked somehow and the 
various apt(x) programs and dpkg won't run, so I can't 
install any tools or different software to try and fix the 
problems!!


ARGHHH!

If anybody has any hints or tips or pointers toward any 
possible solutions I would appreciate hearing them!


TIA,
Dennis

PS; dpkg says;

E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. 
W: Could not lock the cache file; this usually means that dpkg or another apt tool is already installing packages.  Opening in read-only mode; any changes you make to the states of packages will NOT be preserved!

Copy/paste between host and KVM/windows 10 guest??

[Dennis Wicks]

It doesn't work for me and the suggested solutions I have 
found are referring to a linux guest.


TIA for pointers, suggestions, solutions!
Denniis

dpkg --configure -a crashes system

[Dennis Wicks]

I can't install/upgrade because I get the message


E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to 
correct the problem.


When I run the dpkg command I get one message

Setting up linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 (4.19.208-1)


then within a few seconds the system crashes.

Any ideas? Is there a log file I can look in that might 
contain something useful? Any help is appreciated!


TIA!!
Dennis

Form filling, etc.

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings,

My bank and credit company use javascript or something 
similar to build the login screen so my password manager 
can't find the user-id and password fields to fill them in. 
The fields don't show up in the downloaded source code or in 
the  source code so that is no help.


Can anybody point me to some software, tutorials, etc. that 
will discover the fields displayed on the screen and enable 
me to fill them in?


Many, many TIA!!
Dennis

Re: old red cables cause Disk errors ...

[Dennis Wicks]

Felix Miata wrote on 1/13/21 5:21 PM:

Michael Howard composed on 2021-01-13 22:57 (UTC):


David Christensen wrote:



Michael Stone wrote:



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:55:37PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:



If you have any red SATA cables, replace them with new black SATA 6



Make sure you wear a beaded neckless while doing that under a full moon.



I used to think "a cable is a cable, color does not matter", but I
have experienced many storage hardware issues over the years that were
caused by red SATA cables.  Other readers on this list have had
similar experiences.  The explanation is chemistry -- the red dye
slowly corrodes the conductors and/or contacts.



Very interesting, if true, and I'm not saying it isn't. I too have had


It's been posted time and again in various forums. IME the problem seems to be
limited to a more or less crimson or wild cherry shade of red:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1426/0052/products/reds_0246cf19-67e7-4e1e-93d7-ef51f4cb3d8a_2000x.png?v=1601311774


cable problems with those thin red efforts but put it down to them not
being of the locking variety or just bad quality.

Dye that causes corrosion == bad quality. :)



Well, this is all very interesting! I have *two* 
SATALink/SATARaid expansion cards and neither of them have 
any red cables! They are at pci addresses 05:00 and 05:01! 
How do I tell which is which?

Disk errors ...

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I am getting very frequent disk errors and I can't figure 
out which drive they are occurring on. I get two messages:



[174384.704895] sata_sil :05:00.0: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT 
domain=0x address=0xcf99c100 flags=0x]



[174384.705153] AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=05:00.0 
domain=0x address=0xdf853000 flags=0x]


Several of each of them occur at once, every few seconds.
Is there any way that I can figure out which drive is 
causing the problem?


Many TIA!
Dennis

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

[Dennis Wicks]

Alexander V. Makartsev wrote on 1/9/21 6:22 PM:

On 10.01.2021 04:08, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Felix Miata wrote on 1/9/21 3:33 PM:

Dennis Wicks composed on 2021-01-09 15:00 (UTC-0600):


When I boot kernel 4.19.0-13-amd64 my monitor res is
1024x768. It should be 1680x1050 which I get when I boot
into kernel 4.19.0-12-amd64. Also, when I look at the xfce
display settings when I have -13 booted it has some generic
display listed and only the 1024x768 res. When I am booted
in -12 the display is listed as an LG 23", which it is, and
a bunch of different resolutions that could be used.



I have tried rebuilding the kernel and initrd to no avail.
It looks to me like the kernel is not recognizing the
monitor for some reason but beyond that I haven't the
slightest idea as to where to look!


This situation is often a case of missing firmware, but 
it's unusual that it
happens simply due to a minor kernel upgrade. Please 
upload /var/log/Xorg.0.log
from a -13 boot to http://pastebin.com/ or equivalent, 
and provide here the
resulting URL, so that we may try to determine what is 
happening. Also please

paste here output from: 'inxi -GSa', for similar reason.



The log file is in pastebin at
  wix-Xorg.0.log

The output from inxi is attached,and pasted below, for 
both -12 and -13. There is a difference between them!


System:    Host: ichiban Kernel: 4.19.0-12-amd64 x86_64 
bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 
(buster)
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] 
driver: nouveau v: kernel
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: 
modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz

   OpenGL: renderer: NV106 v: 4.3 Mesa 18.3.6


System:    Host: ichiban Kernel: 4.19.0-13-amd64 x86_64 
bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 
(buster)
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] 
driver: nvidia v: 418.152.00
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: 
nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 
1024x768~76Hz
   OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) 
v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6


Many TIA, again!
Dennis
You have installed unsupported nvidia driver version for 
your VGA. Last version that supports your adapter is 390, so 
you need to install "nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver".
You will need to remove 418 driver after installation, or 
switch to 390 version by typing:

# update-glx --config nvidia
to make sure your system will use it. You can use "glxinfo" 
utility from "mesa-utils" package to see what driver is 
currently in use.

$ glxinfo | grep -e 'OpenGL' -e 'glx'



--
With kindest regards, Alexander.

⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀https://www.debian.org
⠈⠳⣄



Alexander;

My most fervent and heartfelt thank you!

That solved the problem completely. The system crashed on 
the first try while it was updating the initrd but after I 
rebooted it worked fine and the remainder of your procedure 
went smoothly.


Again, Thank You!
Dennis

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

[Dennis Wicks]

Felix Miata wrote on 1/9/21 3:33 PM:

Dennis Wicks composed on 2021-01-09 15:00 (UTC-0600):


When I boot kernel 4.19.0-13-amd64 my monitor res is
1024x768. It should be 1680x1050 which I get when I boot
into kernel 4.19.0-12-amd64. Also, when I look at the xfce
display settings when I have -13 booted it has some generic
display listed and only the 1024x768 res. When I am booted
in -12 the display is listed as an LG 23", which it is, and
a bunch of different resolutions that could be used.



I have tried rebuilding the kernel and initrd to no avail.
It looks to me like the kernel is not recognizing the
monitor for some reason but beyond that I haven't the
slightest idea as to where to look!


This situation is often a case of missing firmware, but it's unusual that it
happens simply due to a minor kernel upgrade. Please upload /var/log/Xorg.0.log
from a -13 boot to http://pastebin.com/ or equivalent, and provide here the
resulting URL, so that we may try to determine what is happening. Also please
paste here output from: 'inxi -GSa', for similar reason.



The log file is in pastebin at
  wix-Xorg.0.log

The output from inxi is attached,and pasted below, for both 
-12 and -13. There is a difference between them!


System:Host: ichiban Kernel: 4.19.0-12-amd64 x86_64 
bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 
(buster)
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] driver: 
nouveau v: kernel
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: 
modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz

   OpenGL: renderer: NV106 v: 4.3 Mesa 18.3.6


System:Host: ichiban Kernel: 4.19.0-13-amd64 x86_64 
bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 
(buster)
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] driver: 
nvidia v: 418.152.00
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: 
nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 
1024x768~76Hz
   OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) 
v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6


Many TIA, again!
Dennis
System:Host: ichiban Kernel: 4.19.0-12-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 
4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: 
fbdev,vesa resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz 
   OpenGL: renderer: NV106 v: 4.3 Mesa 18.3.6 


System:Host: ichiban Kernel: 4.19.0-13-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 
4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] driver: nvidia v: 
418.152.00 
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nouveau unloaded: 
fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x768~76Hz 
   OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 

Monitor resolution wrong

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

When I boot kernel 4.19.0-13-amd64 my monitor res is 
1024x768. It should be 1680x1050 which I get when I boot 
into kernel 4.19.0-12-amd64. Also, when I look at the xfce 
display settings when I have -13 booted it has some generic 
display listed and only the 1024x768 res. When I am booted 
in -12 the display is listed as an LG 23", which it is, and 
a bunch of different resolutions that could be used.


I have tried rebuilding the kernel and initrd to no avail. 
It looks to me like the kernel is not recognizing the 
monitor for some reason but beyond that I haven't the 
slightest idea as to where to look!


Any ideas??

Many TIA!!
Dennis

Re: Linux not seeing all SATA drives

[Dennis Wicks]

David Christensen wrote on 10/12/20 10:01 PM:

On 2020-10-12 19:19, Dennis Wicks wrote:
I have 3 SATA drives on my system. I replaced all my red 
cables with new black cables. The BIOS sees all of them 
but when linux finishes booting it only sees two of them. 
Do I have to do something to linux so it sees the third 
drive?


FYI, I have the system disk in sata-1, the drive on sata2 
is not seen, but the drive on sata3 is seen and in use. 
The CD/DVD drive is on sata6 and is also seen.


Thanks for any and all help!
Dennis


Run the following commands as root.  If you need help 
interpreting the results, post your console session:


# lsblk

# fdisk -l

# mount | grep sd


David


Thanks for the tip, but none of those commands show the 
third disk, just two.
What might be /dev/sdc doesn't show up with any command I 
have tried.


Thanks!
Dennis

Linux not seeing all SATA drives

[Dennis Wicks]

I have 3 SATA drives on my system. I replaced all my red 
cables with new black cables. The BIOS sees all of them but 
when linux finishes booting it only sees two of them. Do I 
have to do something to linux so it sees the third drive?


FYI, I have the system disk in sata-1, the drive on sata2 is 
not seen, but the drive on sata3 is seen and in use. The 
CD/DVD drive is on sata6 and is also seen.


Thanks for any and all help!
Dennis

Re: Help - How to paste from host (Debian) to Virtual machine (Win10)

[Dennis Wicks]

Kushal Kumaran wrote on 9/7/20 7:31 PM:

Dennis Wicks  writes:


Greetings!

Is there any way that I can copy and paste from Deb host to VM Win10
and vice versa?



Assuming you are using qemu-kvm to run your VM, the search keyword would
be SPICE.

You need to have the appropriate devices attached to the VM (a spice
channel at the minimum), and the corresponding driver software installed
in the VM.

https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html#agent
https://www.spice-space.org/download.html#windows-binaries

Thanks for the pointers! Finally got all the pieces in place 
and it copy/paste works great!


Again, Many Tnx!

Help - How to paste from host (Debian) to Virtual machine (Win10)

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings!

Is there any way that I can copy and paste from Deb host to 
VM Win10 and vice versa?


Many TIA!
Dennis

Re: Need help -- Virtual Machine Manager

[Dennis Wicks]

Fabien Roucaute wrote on 9/5/20 1:40 AM:

Le 05/09/2020 à 01:57, Dennis Wicks a écrit :

I'm running Win10 with Virtual Machine Manager on Deb 10.4. How to I
attach my CD drive to Win10 so I can install some software?

Many TIA!
Dennis



Either the ISO or the CD-ROM need to be on the host. If KVM/libvirt
doesn't run on the machine running Virtual Machine Manager, you need to
create a pool for the ISO and upload the ISO there or to insert cd-rom
in the host CD drive.




Yes, everything is in the same box/host. I need to know how 
to mount a physical CD!

TNX!

Need help -- Virtual Machine Manager

[Dennis Wicks]

I'm running Win10 with Virtual Machine Manager on Deb 10.4. 
How to I attach my CD drive to Win10 so I can install some 
software?


Many TIA!
Dennis

Re: Error importing gpg key - Solved!

[Dennis Wicks]

Reco wrote on 5/16/20 6:14 PM:

sed -i '/^keyserver-options/d' ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf

Thanks! Solves the problem!

Error importing gpg key

[Dennis Wicks]

The tor website says to use the command


gpg --auto-key-locate nodefault,wkd --locate-keys torbrow...@torproject.org


When I do that I get an error message


gpg: keyserver option 'ca-cert-file' is obsolete; please use 'hkp-cacert' in 
dirmngr.conf


I have searched the net and man pages and I can't figure out 
how to solve this.
I can't find any file on my system the contains the string 
'ca-cert-file', with or without quotes!


TIA for any pointers or other help!
Dennis

kvm by example

[Dennis Wicks]

Found a web page that guides you step by step through 
defining a VM and installing Windows 10 in it. Make a note 
of this or save it some where in case you or a friend needs it!


 >> 
https://getlabsdone.com/10-easy-steps-to-install-windows-10-on-linux-kvm/ 
 <<


Worked great for me!

kvm CM how to attach existing hdd partition

[Dennis Wicks]

Well, I have my VM created and installed Windows 10 in it, 
and everything windows seems to work just fine.


Now, how do I make existing partitions available to the 
Windows system? Can't find anything recent that appears to 
address the situation.


Many TIA!
Dennis

Running virtual systems

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

The last time that I ran any virtual systems virtualbox and 
other software was the only way to go. Now I see that there 
is support in hardware for running virtual systems directly. 
I am running Buster on AMD Ryzen. What is the best way to 
run virtual systems, and where can I find some good doc? The 
first thing I need to run is Windows 10 so I can get my 
taxes done! Then maybe a couple of small Debian and Windows 
systems for testing and development of WP thems and websites 
and similar.


Many TIA!
Dennis

Best file system to use?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the 
current consensus of the best file system to use for general 
data usage? I have been using xfs but that is based on info 
from many years ago.


Many TIA!
Dennis

Re: How to configure e-net port again -- SOLVED (sort of)

[Dennis Wicks]

Michael Stone wrote on 1/31/20 2:00 PM:

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:27:06AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:

john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM:

On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past 
week.


I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought 
it was but it


How did you try to change your e-net to use dhcp?

wasn't picking up all the info from the DHCP server, 
specifically the IP
addr. Now it doesn't work at all. How can I run through 
the setup/init
process that it went through at install to get back at 
least a working

communications port.



I would say, revert the change(s)that you have done.

--
John Doe




I have tried that to no avail. There are two possibilities:

(1) I don't remember exactly what was there before
(2) One of the two network management programs that are 
running changed something that I don't know about.


In my Notification Area there are two programs that seem 
to be controlling the interfaces, and perhaps causing my 
problems. They are Network Manager Applet and WICD Network 
Manager.


Do you remember which one you used? Both can be used, but if 
you try to use both at the same time you'll have problems. 
I'd suggest uninstalling one of them, or at the very least 
make sure that they aren't both trying to control the same 
interface. Neither will modify /etc/network/interfaces, so 
just ignore that.



Michael, thanks for that tip. I got rid of both network 
managers and setup the port in /etc/network/interfaces and 
that works -- sometimes.


If I try to use IP address reservation in my dhcp server 
ifup will not work. I get this:

- - - - -

root@ichiban:~# ifup enp3s0
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.1
Copyright 2004-2018 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/enp3s0/10:7b:44:50:39:8b
Sending on   LPF/enp3s0/10:7b:44:50:39:8b
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
DHCPDISCOVER on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.1.2 from 192.168.254.254
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.2 on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPNAK from 192.168.254.254
DHCPDISCOVER on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.1.2 from 192.168.254.254
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.2 on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPNAK from 192.168.254.254

- - - - - 
If I remove IP address reservation ifup works and I get the 
following:

- - - - -

root@ichiban:~# ifup enp3s0
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.1
Copyright 2004-2018 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/enp3s0/10:7b:44:50:39:8b
Sending on   LPF/enp3s0/10:7b:44:50:39:8b
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.34.220 from 192.168.254.254
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.34.220 on enp3s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK of 192.168.34.220 from 192.168.254.254
bound to 192.168.34.220 -- renewal in 6833 seconds.
root@ichiban:~# 

- - - - -
This machine is running Buster 10 64 bit, I have a machine 
that is running Buster 10 32 bit that works fine with 
Network Manager Applet 1.8.22. This machine (64 bit) had 
1.8.20 and it did not work. Just looped continuously until I 
deleted the address reservation from the dhcp server. When I 
run ifup it does the same thing so the problem must be 
buried deeper somewhere.


Thanks for all the help and suggestions!
Dennis

Re: How to configure e-net port again

[Dennis Wicks]

john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM:

On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:

I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week.

I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it was but it


How did you try to change your e-net to use dhcp?


wasn't picking up all the info from the DHCP server, specifically the IP
addr. Now it doesn't work at all. How can I run through the setup/init
process that it went through at install to get back at least a working
communications port.



I would say, revert the change(s)that you have done.

--
John Doe




I have tried that to no avail. There are two possibilities:

(1) I don't remember exactly what was there before
(2) One of the two network management programs that are 
running changed something that I don't know about.


In my Notification Area there are two programs that seem to 
be controlling the interfaces, and perhaps causing my 
problems. They are Network Manager Applet and WICD Network 
Manager.

Re: How to configure e-net port again

[Dennis Wicks]

Daryl wrote on 1/30/20 7:52 PM:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:48:36 -0600
Dennis Wicks  wrote:


I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week.

I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it
was but it wasn't picking up all the info from the DHCP
server, specifically the IP addr. Now it doesn't work at
all. How can I run through the setup/init process that it
went through at install to get back at least a working
communications port.

Many, many TIA!!
Dennis



What's in /etc/network/interfaces?





A couple of comments, a source cmd for interfaces.d, which 
is empty,another comment, then the following:


auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

How to configure e-net port again

[Dennis Wicks]

I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week.

I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it 
was but it wasn't picking up all the info from the DHCP 
server, specifically the IP addr. Now it doesn't work at 
all. How can I run through the setup/init process that it 
went through at install to get back at least a working 
communications port.


Many, many TIA!!
Dennis

vnc 64bit-32bitor Buster to Bullseye

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have a vanilla 64-bit install of Buster which claims to be 
Debian 10.1. I am trying to vnc from there to my old 32-bit 
machine which is running Bullseye (don't know what it claims 
to be).


Using tightvncserver on the 32-bit side and xtightvncviewer 
on the 64-bit side I have managed to get a connection, but 
no desktop manager. The viewer shows me a window but it is 
just gray, actually very small black and white spots.


How do I get xfce started on that session? Better yet, how 
can I connect to the existing session on :0? I can't seem to 
hook up to that. Strangely, when I connect to a Windows 
machine it seems to do exactly that!


Any assistance greatly appreciated!

Many TIA!
Dennis

mount weirdness reloaded

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings once again;

Tomorrow morning I am going to reboot and see if my problem 
happens again.


If you have some suggestions on what info to gather then let 
me know. Bear in mind that during the boot process my system 
is pretty much unresponsive for the hour or so until the 
window manager is up and everything has settled down.


Regards,
Dennis

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

David Wright wrote on 8/8/19 9:04 AM:

On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 08:19:22 (-), Curt wrote:

On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks  wrote:

So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests
told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not mounted"!


Would this be the result if /dev/sdb2 were already mounted (i.e. nothing?).


Try it. I, at least, would be interested in the result.
So far, the voting is 2-1 against seeing what I see:

wren 08:50:11 ~# lsblk -f | grep sda7
├─sda7   ext4swan07  4a4e352f-2180-4083-92b4-f46e4e0104b4 
/wrenbk
wren 08:50:26 ~# mkdir /wa1 /somethingelse
wren 08:50:49 ~# mount /dev/sda7 /somethingelse
mount: /dev/sda7 is already mounted or /somethingelse busy
/dev/sda7 is already mounted on /wrenbk
32 wren 08:51:16 ~# mount /dev/sda7 /wa1
mount: /dev/sda7 is already mounted or /wa1 busy
/dev/sda7 is already mounted on /wrenbk
32 wren 08:51:31 ~# rmdir /wa1 /somethingelse
wren 08:51:53 ~#

By way of explanation, the prompt is
export PROMPT_COMMAND='MYPROMPT="$? " && [ "$MYPROMPT" = "0 " ] && MYPROMPT=""'
export PS1='\[\e[1;33;41m\]$MYPROMPT\[\e[1;37;44m\]\H \t \w\[\e[0m\]\$ ' # blue
but I normally cut it to reduce clutter.


Many other tests. What about 'mount' from an xterm to see what's mounted
and what ain't and where?

Did you show your /etc/fstab file (cut and paste)? If so, I must've missed
it.

BTW, what's with the exclamation points? Makes you seem enthusiastic.


Yes, I couldn't figure that out, nor what good a note in /etc/fstab
would do (in the reply to Thomas). Does one peruse that file each time
one reboots?

Cheers,
David.



Greetings;

What system are you running, David? I am running vanilla 
Debian bullseye, recently upgraded. Been running Debian for 
years and have never gotten those errors. This is what 
happens to me.


 wix@dgwicks:~$ s mount /dev/sdc1 /test1
 wix@dgwicks:~$ s mount /dev/sdc1 /test2
 wix@dgwicks:~$ findmnt /dev/sdc1
 TARGET SOURCEFSTYPE OPTIONS
 /test1 /dev/sdc1 xfsrw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota
 /test2 /dev/sdc1 xfsrw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota
 wix@dgwicks:~$
 wix@dgwicks:~$ s mount -v /dev/sdc1 /work-1
 mount: /dev/sdc1 mounted on /work-1.
 wix@dgwicks:~$ findmnt /dev/sdc1
 TARGET  SOURCEFSTYPE OPTIONS
 /test1  /dev/sdc1 xfsrw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota
 /test2  /dev/sdc1 xfsrw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota
 /work-1 /dev/sdc1 xfsrw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota
 wix@dgwicks:~$

Do you have some environment variable set or something in an 
ini or rc file that makes mount behave in a more strict way 
than standard?


No, I don't look at fstab every time I reboot. Just when I 
get things like failed mounts. In which case seeing that 
note will remind me what to look at/for.


Regards,
Dennis

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Curt wrote on 8/8/19 3:41 AM:

On 2019-08-08, Curt  wrote:

On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks  wrote:



So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests
told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not mounted"!


Would this be the result if /dev/sdb2 were already mounted (i.e. nothing?).

Many other tests. What about 'mount' from an xterm to see what's mounted
and what ain't and where?

Did you show your /etc/fstab file (cut and paste)? If so, I must've missed
it.

BTW, what's with the exclamation points? Makes you seem enthusiastic.

;-)



Oh, and I forgot: the relevant logs might be clueful and relevant
and of course should be explored for relevant clues.


Tell me what logs and how to view them.

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Curt wrote on 8/8/19 3:19 AM:

On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks  wrote:



So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests
told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not mounted"!


Would this be the result if /dev/sdb2 were already mounted (i.e. nothing?).
System does not care if device is already mounted somewhere 
else.





Many other tests. What about 'mount' from an xterm to see what's mounted
and what ain't and where?

Did you show your /etc/fstab file (cut and paste)? If so, I must've missed
it.

Yep. Sometime back.


BTW, what's with the exclamation points? Makes you seem enthusiastic.

Nope. Surprised!


;-)

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 1:58 PM:

Hi,

more ideas: exit value, verbous mode.

   mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1
   echo $?

A nominally successful mount command would yield 0 as "$?".
Maybe -v yields some extra insight.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas




Thanks, Thomas!
I'll put a note in my fstab so the next time I boot I can 
find it if the mount fails again!


You too!
Dennnis

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

David Wright wrote on 8/6/19 1:48 PM:

On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 12:18:21 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote:

Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM:

Dennis Wicks wrote:

I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1
but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point.


So what do you get from these shell commands ?

I am currently running with "ln -s /wa11 /wa1" so this isn't the
config I booted with. Anyway;


ls -ld /wa1 /wa11


wix@dgwicks:~$ ls -ld /wa1 /wa11
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root4 Aug  1 17:40 /wa1 -> wa11
drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 4096 Jun 17 14:07 /wa11
wix@dgwicks:~$



find /wa1


wix@dgwicks:~$ cd /
wix@dgwicks:/$ find /wa1
/wa1
wix@dgwicks:/$ lg wa1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 4 Aug  1 17:40 wa1 -> wa11/
drwxrwxrwx  17 root root  4.0K Jun 17 14:07 wa11/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 7 Aug  1 17:43 www -> wa1/www/
wix@dgwicks:/$



What happens if you create a new /wa1 ?

mv /wa1 /wa1_old
mkdir /wa1
mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1



Same failure. One of the many things I tried to get the mount on /wa1
to work, without any success.


Shouldn't that fail with:

~# mkdir /wa1
~# mount /dev/sda4 /wa1
mount: /dev/sda4 is already mounted or /wa1 busy
/dev/sda4 is already mounted on /ya
~#


No, it won't fail because the first mount to /wa1 did not 
succeed! And the system does not object or give an error 
when you mount the same partition on two diff dirs anyway!







As for your fstab, there is this "x-systemd.device-timeout=20" where
all others have "=60". But the web says this is for automounting.


This param is to stop the boot process from stopping because all of
the mounts have failed, temporarily. A previous thread from a few
weeks(?) back.


I fail to imagine any explanation for the symptoms you report. Especially
the silent failure riddles me.


Unfortunately there's too much reported speech in this thread,
and not enough direct speech. Some timely copy/paste might help.


Me too! Happens during boot and when done manually!


Cheers,
David.

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Richard Hector wrote on 8/6/19 12:42 PM:

On 7/08/19 5:31 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 8/6/19 10:34 AM:

I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs.
wa1?

No. My current config is;

    /wa1 -> wa11 ( soft link )
    /wa11    ( <- /dev/sdb2 )

with sdb2 mounted on /wa11 so I don't have to find and change all the
paths that I have starting with "/wa1/..."!


So you're trying to mount on a symlink, instead of a directory? I don't
think that's going to work. Why not mount on /wa11, as you describe?

Or does /wa11 only exist because you can't mount on /wa1, and you were

   Exactly!!

trying to mount on /wa1 when /wa1 was a directory? In which case - it
would help to provide the requested files in the state where the problem
exists :-)

   fstab says wa1 but I would have to reboot to get the
   exact config back, and that takes over an hour!


(also, one vs ell is confusing ... I assume you've got the right el^Wone :-)

   Oh yeah! One of the many things I verified! Been using
   /wa1 for years as is. Keep copying the fstab so it is
   tried and true; until the last aptitude upgrade.


Cheers,

Richard



On Tuesday, August 06, 2019 11:09:32 AM Dennis Wicks wrote:

Requested info attached:

I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1
but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point.

Regards, and Thanks!
Dennis

Andrei POPESCU wrote on 8/6/19 1:06 AM:

On Lu, 05 aug 19, 15:33:57, Dennis Wicks wrote:

It seems that something in the mount process does not like "wa1" for a
mount point. Anybody have similar recent problems?


Please show your fstab and the output of 'lsblk -f'.

Kind regards,
Andrei

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 8/6/19 10:34 AM:

I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs. wa1?

No. My current config is;

   /wa1 -> wa11 ( soft link )
   /wa11( <- /dev/sdb2 )

with sdb2 mounted on /wa11 so I don't have to find and 
change all the paths that I have starting with "/wa1/..."!


On Tuesday, August 06, 2019 11:09:32 AM Dennis Wicks wrote:

Requested info attached:

I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1
but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point.

Regards, and Thanks!
Dennis

Andrei POPESCU wrote on 8/6/19 1:06 AM:

On Lu, 05 aug 19, 15:33:57, Dennis Wicks wrote:

It seems that something in the mount process does not like "wa1" for a
mount point. Anybody have similar recent problems?


Please show your fstab and the output of 'lsblk -f'.

Kind regards,
Andrei

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Felix Miata wrote on 8/6/19 10:33 AM:

Dennis Wicks composed on 2019-08-06 10:09 (UTC-0500):


I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1


What is output from ls -ld /wa*/ ?

wix@dgwicks:/$ ls -ld /wa*/
drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 4096 Jun 17 14:07 /wa1/
drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 4096 Jun 17 14:07 /wa11/
drwxrwxrwx  8 root root  111 Jun 11 11:58 /wa2/
drwxr-xr-x  6 wix  wix72 Jun 11 11:58 /wa3/
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Feb  2  2019 /wa4/
wix@dgwicks:/$

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM:

Hi,

Dennis Wicks wrote:

I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1
but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point.


So what do you get from these shell commands ?
I am currently running with "ln -s /wa11 /wa1" so this isn't 
the config I booted with. Anyway;


   ls -ld /wa1 /wa11


wix@dgwicks:~$ ls -ld /wa1 /wa11
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root4 Aug  1 17:40 /wa1 -> wa11
drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 4096 Jun 17 14:07 /wa11
wix@dgwicks:~$



   find /wa1


wix@dgwicks:~$ cd /
wix@dgwicks:/$ find /wa1
/wa1
wix@dgwicks:/$ lg wa1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 4 Aug  1 17:40 wa1 -> wa11/
drwxrwxrwx  17 root root  4.0K Jun 17 14:07 wa11/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 7 Aug  1 17:43 www -> wa1/www/
wix@dgwicks:/$



What happens if you create a new /wa1 ?

   mv /wa1 /wa1_old
   mkdir /wa1
   mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1



Same failure. One of the many things I tried to get the 
mount on /wa1 to work, without any success.





As for your fstab, there is this "x-systemd.device-timeout=20" where
all others have "=60". But the web says this is for automounting.


This param is to stop the boot process from stopping because 
all of the mounts have failed, temporarily. A previous 
thread from a few weeks(?) back.


I fail to imagine any explanation for the symptoms you report. Especially
the silent failure riddles me.


Me too! Happens during boot and when done manually!


Have a nice day :)


Thanks! You too!


Thomas


Regards!
Dennis

Re: mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

Requested info attached:

I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1
but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point.

Regards, and Thanks!
Dennis

Andrei POPESCU wrote on 8/6/19 1:06 AM:

On Lu, 05 aug 19, 15:33:57, Dennis Wicks wrote:


It seems that something in the mount process does not like "wa1" for a mount
point. Anybody have similar recent problems?
  
Please show your fstab and the output of 'lsblk -f'.


Kind regards,
Andrei



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier and label for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= or LABEL= as a more robust way to name 
devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
#   
 
# / was on /dev/sda2 during installation
LABEL=Root  /   xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600   1
# /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
LABEL=Boot  /boot   ext2
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600   2
# /home was on /dev/sda4 during installation
LABEL=Home  /home   xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600   2

# /home2 contains some files required for system setup. eg, etc2
LABEL=Home2 /home2  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 2

# this is on sysres and is only used for rescue mode when other vols are not 
mounted
# LABEL=SwapRes   none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0

LABEL=Swap1 none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0
LABEL=Swap2 none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0
LABEL=Swap3 none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0
/wa3/Swap4  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0
/wa1/Swap5  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0
/wa2/Swap6  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0
/pvt04/Swap7none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=60  0   0

LABEL=PubDtaMaster  /edrv   xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
LABEL=PubDtaMirror  /edrv-mirrorxfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
LABEL=Painter-C /Painter-C  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
LABEL=Painter-D /Painter-D  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0

LABEL=Volume1   /b1 ext4
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
LABEL=Volume2   /b2 xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0

# General work and storage areas
UUID=20173008-eeaa-41cd-b862-f7d0b871895d   /wa11  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0
UUID=9092610b-7eec-40b6-956c-8deea77d65a9   /wa2xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
LABEL=Work-Area-3   /wa3xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
UUID=cde81105-e821-4630-8bc0-e56e7deaa63e   /wa4xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
UUID=0848ac45-2c69-4a0f-9b72-b9f870496df1   /work3  ext4
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0

UUID=f4043585-df77-4553-9acc-cdb969a348e6   /work4  ext4
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0


UUID=2a6011d2-666e-4d2c-8ed1-4fa3fe3fa6ff   /pvt01  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
UUID=56131889-1a09-43cb-a367-6751f3a08761   /pvt02  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
UUID=462287b5-a363-4089-999d-649b54ad973c   /pvt03  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0
UUID=fdbb6809-77c2-4f74-ad64-310677f8ac34   /pvt04  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=600 0

/dev/sr0/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 
user,noauto 0   0

NAME   FSTYPE   LABELUUID FSAVAIL 
FSUSE% MOUN

mount weirdness

[Dennis Wicks]

I recently rebooted after an upgrade that generated
"Jul 28 17:13 initrd.img-4.19.0-5-686-pae"
and when I was finally U I discovered that a mount didn't 
happen. (I am on Debian 10 Bullseye and my last kernel 
resulted in "Jul 18 17:23 vmlinuz-4.19.0-5-686-pae".)


I have mount points /wa1-/wa4 and I have been using them 
literally for years with no problem.


So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it 
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that 
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests 
told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not mounted"!


After trying many things I discovered that 1) I can mount 
/dev/sdb2 on any mount point except /wa1 and 2) I can't 
mount any /dev/sdxx on /wa1!! So I mounted sdb2 on /wa11,
"rmdir /wa1"and "ln -s /wa11 /wa1" and everything seems to 
work OK.


It seems that something in the mount process does not like 
"wa1" for a mount point. Anybody have similar recent problems?

Re: Problem: Slow boot -- Mounts fail.

[Dennis Wicks]

andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote on 6/29/19 1:15 AM:

On Vi, 28 iun 19, 11:26:43, Dennis Wicks wrote:

andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote on 6/24/19 2:09 AM:

On Ma, 14 mai 19, 16:38:37, Dennis Wicks wrote:


How do I prevent the mounts from failing and make the system continue on
with the boot process?


You could start by attaching your /etc/fstab and copy-pasting the output
of 'lsblk -f' with all partitions mounted.

It would also be useful to know what init system you are using
(ls -l /sbin/init) and if your mounts have any specials (LVM, encrypted,
NFS, RAID, etc.) basically anything besides plain extX filesystems
mounted from internal drives.

Kind regards,
Andrei


No need for all that!


Hmm...
  

All my mounts are local PATA and SATA drives. The SATA drives are on an
adapter card. All the file systems are xfs, ext2, ext4 or swap and use
either /dir/dir, LABEL= or UUID=.
All very vanilla. No LVM, encrypted, NFS, RAID, etc. Doesn't make any
difference as *all* of the mounts are failing on the first pass!

I found a work around on a forum. Put "nofail" in the options field of
fstab. So now my entries contain "defaults,nofail" or "sw,pri=100,nofail" in
the options field.

Doesn't make any difference though. All the
Dependency failed for ...
 Timeout waiting for ...
messages still occur, they just don't stop the boot process and the mounts
get done successfully later on.(??)

I can't tell what might have caused this as I don't re-boot after every
update, just when an update to the kernel occurs. I think it was about the
time that systemd was implemented as the boot screen looked different when
the mount failures started happening.


There are a lot of eyes on this list and someone might spot something
that you don't even think might have an impact.

But then it's your system, your rules ;)

Kind regards,
Andrei



OK! Be my guest!!

One thing I have noticed is that it seems to do everything 2 
or 3 times while it is booting, and it takes about 30 mins 
before my desktop (xfce) is up and functioning.


TNX!
wix@dgwicks:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier and label for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= or LABEL= as a more robust way to name 
devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
#   
 
# / was on /dev/sda2 during installation
LABEL=Root  /   xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200   0
# /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
LABEL=Boot  /boot   ext2
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200   0
# /home was on /dev/sda4 during installation
LABEL=Home  /home   xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200   0

# /home2 contains some files required for system setup. eg, etc2
LABEL=Home2   /home2  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0

# this is on sysres and is only used for rescue mode when other vols are not 
mounted
# LABEL=SwapResnone   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0

LABEL=Swap1   none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0
LABEL=Swap2   none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0
LABEL=Swap3  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0
/wa3/Swap4  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0
/wa1/Swap5  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0
/wa2/Swap6  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0
/pvt04/Swap7  none   swap
sw,pri=100,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=20  0   0

LABEL=PubDtaMaster  /edrv   xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0
LABEL=PubDtaMirror  /edrv-mirrorxfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0
LABEL=Painter-C /Painter-C  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0
LABEL=Painter-D /Painter-D  xfs 
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0

LABEL=Volume1   /b1 ext4
defaults,nofail,x-systemd.device-timeout=200 0
LABEL=Volume2

Setting up bind9/DNS

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings,

I have apache2 installed on my local machine with a bunch of 
virtual hosts that I use for test and development of html, 
wordpress, etc. It works fine to access the virt hosts 
locally, but I want to access them from other systems on my 
local network; windows/IE of various versions, smart phones, 
tablets, laptops, etc.


They all can access my base host name because my DSL 
modem/router has DHCP and DNS in it and when it sets up an 
address with DHCP it puts an entry in its DNS and everything 
is fine. (All systems on the local net use the modem/router 
for dns.) But nothing like this happens with the virtual hosts!


I was thinking that I could setup a nameserver on my machine 
with enries in it for the virtual hosts and have my local 
network address in the list of nameservers in my 
modem/router, and that is where I need the help.


I have installed bind9, running on buster. So how do I set 
up the name server and populate it with the info for my 
virtual hosts? Pointers to forums, cookbooks, etc. would be 
appreciated as well as hints and tips!


TIA!
Dennnis

Re: Problem: Slow boot -- Mounts fail.

[Dennis Wicks]

andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote on 6/24/19 2:09 AM:

On Ma, 14 mai 19, 16:38:37, Dennis Wicks wrote:


How do I prevent the mounts from failing and make the system continue on
with the boot process?


You could start by attaching your /etc/fstab and copy-pasting the output
of 'lsblk -f' with all partitions mounted.

It would also be useful to know what init system you are using
(ls -l /sbin/init) and if your mounts have any specials (LVM, encrypted,
NFS, RAID, etc.) basically anything besides plain extX filesystems
mounted from internal drives.

Kind regards,
Andrei


No need for all that!

All my mounts are local PATA and SATA drives. The SATA 
drives are on an adapter card. All the file systems are xfs, 
ext2, ext4 or swap and use either /dir/dir, LABEL= or UUID=.
All very vanilla. No LVM, encrypted, NFS, RAID, etc. Doesn't 
make any difference as *all* of the mounts are failing on 
the first pass!


I found a work around on a forum. Put "nofail" in the 
options field of fstab. So now my entries contain 
"defaults,nofail" or "sw,pri=100,nofail" in the options field.


Doesn't make any difference though. All the
   Dependency failed for ...
Timeout waiting for ...
messages still occur, they just don't stop the boot process 
and the mounts get done successfully later on.(??)


I can't tell what might have caused this as I don't re-boot 
after every update, just when an update to the kernel 
occurs. I think it was about the time that systemd was 
implemented as the boot screen looked different when the 
mount failures started happening.


Just an update in case someone else runs into the problem. 
In fact I am surprised that no once else has. Must be 
something different about my system that I don't know about 
and that isn't obvious! (Something from SysV that is 
incompatible with systemd?)


Regards,
Dennis

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

[Dennis Wicks]

Gene Heskett wrote on 6/17/19 11:49 AM:

On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote:


[big snip!] And short of commenting every

line in /e/i.d/avahi-* out, I don't know how to stop that PITA from

[/big snip]

Cheers, Gene Heskett



Gene;

No need for such butchery!
Just insert a statement that contains just

exit 0

right after "SCRIPTNAME=...".

If you look around you can quickly figure out how to produce 
some suitably profane messages before the exit instruction!


Cheers to you too!
Dennis

Problem: Slow boot -- Mounts fail.

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

During the boot process there are several mount "jobs" 
started, and they all finish/fail with two messages;


Dependency failed for ...
Timeout waiting for ...

that is except for root.

I removed all the mounts for user partitions from fstab and 
just left the mounts for root, boot, home and home2 but got 
the same results for the four that were left. Incidentally, 
when I run the user mounts after the system is "up" it takes 
just a few seconds to mount 14 partitions.


After the mounts "fail" the boot process stops in Emergency 
Mode, and I have the choice of logging on to root to fix the 
problem, or entering ctl-d to continue on. If I log on to 
root I find that all four of the volumes are mounted and 
nothing is wrong. If I choose ctl-d the boot process will 
continue with no problems.


How do I prevent the mounts from failing and make the system 
continue on with the boot process?


Many TIA!
Dennis

Problem: Slow Boot -- Hibernation?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

First off, I am running Debian Buster/Sid (that's what it 
says!) and the kernel is 4.19.0-4-686-pae. 32 bit system,

4 Gig of memory (3.xx usable!), IDE disks.

My boots are getting slower and slower. I'll start from the top.

The first thing that happens is I get a message

Resuming from hibernation

I have never put my system in hibernation! It seems to just
sit there for several minutes with no disk access and no 
messages. Then it continues on. Is this a problem? I don't 
think it would make a big difference to eliminate it, but it 
would get rid of one message!


TIA!
Dennis

Need help making new boot vol

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have copied my boot, root and home partitions to a larger
device but I think I need to run grub to actually make the
disk boot. All of the writeups that I can find are way too
old or just old enough that the file names for a lot of
things aren't the same as what I have.

I am running buster i386. Does anyone know of an up-to-date
recipe for doing this?

Many TIA!
Dennis

Re: Online copies of textinfo content available?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greg Wooledge wrote on 10/26/18 3:16 PM:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:13:20PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>>  sudo apt show XYZ
> 
> For the record, you don't need to be root to use apt show, or apt-cache show.
> 
> 
> 
Right you are! I guess it has become such a habit I just do
it automatically!

Help with gitlab

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

So far everything I have wanted to get from git has had a
button for "download zip file" and everything worked great.
I am trying to get a package that doesn't have a download
link. Anybody know the secret command to get the source in
some usable format?

I have tried the regular rt-clk approach and a download
manager but it seems the files are actually html!

Any hints, tips, or examples appreciated!

TIA,
Dennis

Re: Online copies of textinfo content available?

[Dennis Wicks]

Richard Owlett wrote on 10/26/18 9:41 AM:
> Many man pages end with:
>> The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo
>> manual. If the info > and XYZ programs are properly
>> installed at your site, the command
>>
>>     info XYZ
>>
>> should give you access to the complete manual.
> 
> I have problems with that.
> 1. I don't want to install unneeded packages just to find
> out whether or
>    not the package might be useful.
> 2. The info output has an annoying format. A browser
> acceptable format
>    {plain text fine --  HTML *NOT* needed} is MUCH more
> functional.
> 
> 

I agree, and I have found a lot of info "complete manual"s
to be exactly like the man page!

Another thing you can try is

sudo apt show XYZ

That will give you a bunch of info including a few lines of
description. Usually enough to decide whether to pursue that
package further.

Good Luck!

Re: "passwd username" asks for current password of user even tho I'm root

[Dennis Wicks]

Mariusz Gronczewski wrote on 10/10/18 8:17 AM:
> Hi,
> 
> On previous releases, and on our CentOS systems I could change password of 
> user by just sudo-ing to root and typing "passwd testuser"
> 
> In current Debian release, doing that asks me to specify that user password, 
> which is pointless because:
> 
> * I can access /etc/shadow anyway
> * I'm changing it because user forgot it
> 
> Is there any way to set passwd (or PAM) to not ask root for current password 
> on passwd-ing non-root accounts ?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mariusz
> 
> --
> Mariusz Gronczewski, Administrator
> 
> Efigence S. A.
> ul. Wołoska 9a, 02-583 Warszawa
> T: [+48] 22 380 13 13
> F: [+48] 22 380 13 14
> E: mariusz.gronczew...@efigence.com 
> 

When I enter  sudo passwd testuser
I get a prompt   Enter new UNIX password:

Perhaps your sudoers file is not set up correctly?

I have mine:

(myid) ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL

Good Luck!
Dennis

Where is xfce.org?

[Dennis Wicks]

What has happened to xfce.org?
It seems to have disappeared and left no tracks.

Re: Which kernel should I use?

[Dennis Wicks]

Dennis Wicks wrote on 09/27/2018 06:40 PM:
> I notice that there is available two different kernels;
> 
>   linux-image-4.9.0-8-686-pae
> 
> and
> 
>   linux-image-4.9.0-8-rt-686-pae
> 
> I am running on a Pentium 4.
> 
> Which one of these should I be using? And just for
> curiosities sake, why?
> 
> TIA!
> Dennis
> 
> 
>

Thanks guys! Unless RT would give me millisecond response
time on Firefox and Thunderbird it doesn't sound like I need
it. So I will just forget that I ever saw that entry in the
apt list!

Thanks again!
Dennis

Which kernel should I use?

[Dennis Wicks]

I notice that there is available two different kernels;

linux-image-4.9.0-8-686-pae

and

linux-image-4.9.0-8-rt-686-pae

I am running on a Pentium 4.

Which one of these should I be using? And just for
curiosities sake, why?

TIA!
Dennis

VPN suggestions?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I want to set up a VPN for several computers in my house
that are all on a local network.

And suggestions, hints, warnings?

TIA!!
Dennis

thunderbird migration problem

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

When TB starts up it *creates* a .icedove directory even
though there is a valid .thunderbird directory. This seems
to be an error according of the migration docs that I can
find. Then when I shutdown and startup again I get a big
message about a migration problem because there is both and
.icedove and .thunderbird directory. So, I delete the
.icedove directory and it starts up fine and correctly, but
creates an .icedove directory! As they say on TV, wash,
rinse, repeat!!

I am running Stretch and TB 52.8.0

TIA for any hints on how to stop this madness!

Dennis

xfce problems

[Dennis Wicks]

I use xfce and until a few days ago my name, the clock and a
few other things were at the right of the top panel and the
app icon and the window icons in the current workspace were
at the left. All of a sudden everything slides over to the
left of the panel and changes size depending on how many
windows there are in the workspace.

Anybody know what I need to change to get the behavior back
to what it was, and I suppose more or less standard state?

Many TIA,
Dennis

XFCE problems

[Dennis Wicks]

I use XFCE and usually my name, the clock and some other
stuff is at the right of the top status(?) bar and the App
icon and window names are at the left. And they stay there.
Something has changed. everything is bunched up to the left
and changes in size depending on how many windows I have in
the workspace.

Does anybody know what/where I have to change to get the
behavior back to previous?

Many TIA!
Dennis

How to mount or link as extention of fs?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings!

I have separated my /home file system from root so I can
install new systems without clobbering it. To make it most
useful is there any way I can mount, link, whatever, it so
that it appears to be an extension of, or included in,
/home? That is not just another mount on the root fs.

TIA Dennis

phpmyadmin ... need help!

[Dennis Wicks]

How do I get the setup procedure to run?

I use a url of 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/setup like I found in
the docs but it keeps asking for a user and password. I have
tried many combos that I have found: root, admin, pma,
phpmyadmin. I tried using localhost in the url but it gets
changed to www.localhost.com! I tried setting the
config.sample.inc.php AllowNoPassword to TRUE but that
didn't help. I have run out of places to look and ideas.

Does anybody know how to get this thing started?

If I have to setup mysql first, that is just as great a
mystery! I was hoping that phpmyadmin would take care of
that for me too!

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!

TIA!
Dennis

Re: Why can't I install wine?

[Dennis Wicks]

Sven Joachim wrote on 05/06/2017 03:25 PM:
> On 2017-05-06 14:48 -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> 
>> I am running Jessie and it is up-to-date. When I try to
>> install wine I get:
>>
>>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>>   fonts-horai-umefont{a} fonts-unfonts-core{a} libcapi20-3{a} 
>>> libgphoto2-port12{a} libosmesa6{ab} p7zip{a} wine wine1.9 
>>>   wine1.9-i386{ab} winetricks{a} 
>>> 0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded.
>>> Need to get 41.4 MB of archives. After unpacking 284 MB will be used.
>>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>>  wine1.9-i386 : Depends: libgphoto2-6 (>= 2.5.10) but 2.5.4-1.1+b2 is 
>>> installed.
>>>  libosmesa6 : Depends: libnettle6 which is a virtual package.
>>> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>>>
>>>  Keep the following packages at their current version:
>>> 1) libosmesa6 [Not Installed] 
>>> 2) wine [Not Installed]   
>>> 3) wine1.9 [Not Installed]
>>> 4) wine1.9-i386 [Not Installed]   
> 
> There is no wine1.9 package in Debian, so it has to come from a third
> party repository which is not compatible with Jessie.
> Run "apt-cache policy wine" to find out what it is.
> 
> Cheers,
>Sven
> 
Sven;

Thanks for that. I will put that in my "hints" repository!
I removed the foreign repo and wine installed correctly.
I don't know why there was a wine in that repository but I
will remember to remove those things from my sources.list in
the future. That will no doubt save me many headaches!

Again, Thanks!!
Dennis

Why can't I install wine?

[Dennis Wicks]

I am running Jessie and it is up-to-date. When I try to
install wine I get:

> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   fonts-horai-umefont{a} fonts-unfonts-core{a} libcapi20-3{a} 
> libgphoto2-port12{a} libosmesa6{ab} p7zip{a} wine wine1.9 
>   wine1.9-i386{ab} winetricks{a} 
> 0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded.
> Need to get 41.4 MB of archives. After unpacking 284 MB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  wine1.9-i386 : Depends: libgphoto2-6 (>= 2.5.10) but 2.5.4-1.1+b2 is 
> installed.
>  libosmesa6 : Depends: libnettle6 which is a virtual package.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
>  Keep the following packages at their current version:
> 1) libosmesa6 [Not Installed] 
> 2) wine [Not Installed]   
> 3) wine1.9 [Not Installed]
> 4) wine1.9-i386 [Not Installed]   
> 

And this solution installs nothing! I don't know how to get
out of this. There must be a mistake somewhere. How could
this situation get into the production release? How do I fix it?

Many TIA!!
Dennis

Need help with Pidgin

[Dennis Wicks]

I installed Pidgin from the repository but I can't get it to
work.


I have setup my user id, and that seems to work. But when I
enable that user

it never connects. Everything I try indicates that it is not
making connection
with the chat server. Does anybody have any ideas? I have
searched for firewall
and other problems associated with Pidgin but nothing found.

BTW, I am trying to use Yahoo Messenger if that makes a
difference.


TIA & TNX!
Dennis

Did I blow my processor?

[Dennis Wicks]

I built myself another computer and it wouldn't boot up. No 
messages or anything. I finally discovered that I missed 
plugging in the 12V power to the MoBo. I did that and it 
still won't boot up, and still no messages diaplayed on the 
screen or any other indication of life.


Have I ruined my processor turning the system on with out 
the 12V attached? (This is the four wires from the power 
supply that plug into the mobo right next to the processor, 
for those that may not be familiar with installing stuff.)


Many TIA!
Dennis

Can I use more than one nic?

[Dennis Wicks]

I find myself with several unused NICs (network interface 
cards) and some empty ports on my switches.


Would it be beneficial to have more than one network 
connection on a system?


If so, what would I do with it, and how would I set it up? 
Pointers to tutorials and how-to's would be nice!


Many TIA!
Dennis

What file system to use?

[Dennis Wicks]

I am going to install some more disks and I was wondering 
which file system to use.


I have several ext? and a few with Reiserfs. Is there a 
better choice than Reiser now? Also, is there any way to 
convert from my existing fs to the recommended one?


BTW, I am running "Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" on 686-pae.

Many TIA!
Dennis

[Solved] NFS msg: Unable to find suitable address

[Dennis Wicks]

Dennis Wicks wrote on 01/19/2017 10:01 AM:


The directory is exported as:
/znfs/edrv/ *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,root_squash)

Contrary to the documentation a single "*" does not work to 
allow world access! Even though exportfs displays that it 
thinks that it does.



exportfs
/znfs/edrv  


It actually requires a minimum of "*.TLD" to work


/znfs/edrv/ *.com(no_subtree_check,rw,sync,insecure,nohide)


and then exportfs displays


exportfs
/znfs/edrv  *.com


There may be other combos that will work also but I don't 
have the time to test them out. I have other fish to fry!


Many TNX!
Dennis

Re: NFS msg: Unable to find suitable address

[Dennis Wicks]

Kent West wrote on 01/19/2017 10:07 AM:



On Jan 19, 2017 10:03 AM, "Dennis Wicks" <w...@mgssub.com
<mailto:w...@mgssub.com>> wrote:

This is what happens:

sudo mount //robin/znfs/edrv -o user=,password= /mnt
Unable to find suitable address.


What happens if you use the IP address instead of the name
"robin"? Can you ping "robin"?

--
Kent



No difference!

> PING robin.netgear.com (192.168.254.62) 56(84) bytes of data.
	> 64 bytes from robin.netgear.com (192.168.254.62): 
icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.472 ms
		> sudo mount //192.168.254.62/znfs/edrv -o user=,password= 
/mnt

> Unable to find suitable address.

NFS msg: Unable to find suitable address

[Dennis Wicks]

This is what happens:

sudo mount //robin/znfs/edrv -o user=,password= /mnt
Unable to find suitable address.

The server is Jessie 8.7 and NFS-V4 (I think!)

The directory is exported as:
/znfs/edrv/ *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,root_squash)

And the mount is:	> /dev/sdf1 on /znfs/edrv type ext3 
(rw,relatime,data=ordered)


I can't find any info that looks like a solution to the problem.

Anybody have a clue? A hint? Seen it before?

As usual, Many TIA!!
Dennis

Re: Help! -- Not enough space to store temporary files

[Dennis Wicks]

Dennis Wicks wrote on 12/17/2016 07:36 PM:

I am trying to install Qt on Debian


Thanks for all the help!

All that was required was to set TMPDIR to point to a 
different tmp directory in a partition with more room!

Re: Help! -- Not enough space to store temporary files

[Dennis Wicks]

Dennis Wicks wrote on 12/17/2016 07:36 PM:

I am trying to install Qt on Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u2
and I get a message that there is not enough disk space to
store temporary files. It needs 580+ meg and only has 300+ meg.

After searching here and there I tried entering the command

 sudo mount -o remount,size=1G tmpfs /tmp

which is supposed to increase the size temporarily and
"on-the-fly" but I still get the same error message.

Any ideas??

TIA for your help!

Dennis



Oops! That is "Not enough --"

Anyway, I just noticed that tmp is in a VG that is very small.
How do I temporarily tell the Qt installer to use temp space
on another partition. Say something like "/work4"?

Thanks again! You all are always very helpful!!

Dennis

Help! -- Note enough space to store temporary files

[Dennis Wicks]

I am trying to install Qt on Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u2 
and I get a message that there is not enough disk space to 
store temporary files. It needs 580+ meg and only has 300+ meg.


After searching here and there I tried entering the command

sudo mount -o remount,size=1G tmpfs /tmp

which is supposed to increase the size temporarily and 
"on-the-fly" but I still get the same error message.


Any ideas??

TIA for your help!

Dennis

Re: off topic Question of the day..

[Dennis Wicks]

Doug wrote on 07/10/2016 10:22 PM:


I've seen several places where this definition is shown, so it must be correct.
If you Google
for paper weight, there will be at least one site that mentions paper weight in
pounds and
also in grams / cm-squared, which may make sense to the Europeans reading this 
but

   that would be square-cm.

not to me!




I'm with you!

Personally, I have never seen a sensible justification for 
switching from one arbitrary measurement system (foot, 
pound, quart) to another arbitrary measurement system 
(meter, gram, liter).


BTW: one inch now equals 2.54 cm *exactly*, in case you 
haven't been keeping up! (Used to be approx 2.54 cm.) This 
is what I mean by arbitrary. Don't like the conversion 
ratio? Then just change it!

Re: Help -- Can't logon at GUI session (ctl-alt-F7)

[Dennis Wicks]

Sven Arvidsson wrote on 03/09/2016 03:46 AM:

On Wed, 2016-03-09 at 09:51 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

The display manager is most likely crashing. You need to examine logs
and figure out why.


Sorry, X is probably crashing! If the display manager was crashing you
wouldn't be able to log in :)

Well, whatever. I tried a couple of things and now I get 
nothing on my screen at all!


I guess I will reinstall tomorrow instead of next week. I'm 
sure that will fix it! I hate to do things that way though. 
Reeks too much of Windows ;(


Thanks for the efforts guys, appreciate it!

TNX!
Dennis

Help -- Can't logon at GUI session (ctl-alt-F7)

[Dennis Wicks]

I fill in user-id and password, click "Sign In" and the 
screen goes blank, flashes a few times, then comes right 
back to the sign in screen. Trying to log on with root does 
the same thing, even though I am supposed to be able to do it.


I can logon at terminal screens (ctl-alt-f1 etc) with either 
my personal userid or as root with no problem.


In case it makes a difference, Jessie AMD64

Many TIA!!
Dennis

How to VNC to active screen on remote system.

[Dennis Wicks]

I wish I could remember all of this stuff!

What is the program that will connect to the current session 
on the remote system? I have used it before but I can't 
remember what it was.


Many TIA!
Dennis

apttude program list

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I am installing deb on several different machines and 
partitions. Is there any file that contains a list of all 
installed packages that I could use to install all 
non-standard packages on the new installs so they start out 
all the same?


Many TIA!
Dennis

Help! System crashes and locks up.

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have a system I just put together. New pwr sup, mobo, and 
1 new SATA disk, 1TB. 2Gig memory. Processor is a Phenom 
9950 4 core. Running Deb 8.3.0 Jessie, new install.


Every so often it crashes and locks up, and the monitor 
screen has many narrow horizontal lines, mostly the 
background color.


When it crashes only reset and power off will work. I have 
looked in every log file I can think of and no luck.


Does this sound familiar to anybody? Any hints?

Any help at all greatly appreciated!!

TNX,
Dennis

Need help with disk config.

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

In the next couple of days I will have a much better 
computer. Not 64bit, but at least faster and with more disk.


It will have 4x1TB SATA drives, 4x250GB IDE/PATA drives and 
all the memory it can use and a fast AMD socket AM2 processor.


I'd like some suggestions on how to format/allocate the SATA 
drives. I imagine that one of them will be the system disk 
with the other 3 containing data, but ext2,3,4? Or other 
file system. LVM?, Raid?


The IDE/PATA drives are on my existing machine, which is on 
its last legs, and contain a mish-mash of mailboxes, web 
pages, genealogy files, archives, etc. Probably not worth 
worrying about at this time.


Anyway, if you have any recommendations, warnings, or other 
guidance, I would appreciate hearing them!


Many TIA!
Dennis

Re: Scrolling problem, all apps.

[Dennis Wicks]

Petter Adsen wrote on 12/17/2015 01:25 AM:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:35:15 -0600
Dennis Wicks <w...@mgssub.com> wrote:


Greetings;

I am running Jessie and XFCE.

I have a continuing problem with scrolling that occurs with
all programs/applications.

I am used to clicking in the scroll bar to move it a page,
more or less. Now it jumps all the way to the top or bottom
of the scroll area, whichever direction I am trying to go.

I can drag the indicator but it mostly overshoots where I
want to go and is not really usable.


Sounds a lot like this:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gtk#Legacy_scrolling_behavior

Petter



Petter;

It doesn't just sound like it, it is the problem! And I 
didn't have to boot or anything. Started working correctly 
as soon as I filed the change. It also solved the problem of 
my cursor jittering all over, which was going to be my next 
request for help!


Many, many Thanks!
Dennis

Scrolling problem, all apps.

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I am running Jessie and XFCE.

I have a continuing problem with scrolling that occurs with 
all programs/applications.


I am used to clicking in the scroll bar to move it a page, 
more or less. Now it jumps all the way to the top or bottom 
of the scroll area, whichever direction I am trying to go.


I can drag the indicator but it mostly overshoots where I 
want to go and is not really usable.


Any help greatly appreciated!

TIA!
Dennis

Need ftp program with site-to-site capability

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

Been looking but haven't found it yet.

My hosting has changed servers and I have to move all my 
stuff pretty soon. I need a ftp program that will do 
site-to-site transfers without having to download to my PC 
first then upload to the destination.


Anybody know of such a one? I used one at work many years 
ago but don't remember the name or even what system it ran on.


Any favorites?

Many TIA!!
Dennis

How to make "headless" system?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have a number of older PCs that I use for testing/local 
webservers, fileservers, backup machines and other stuff. A 
couple of these have "glass ttys", ie. no graphics at all, 
and others have old low-res monitors of 800x600 at best. 
Also, they are all in the basement, which is a trip I don't 
like to make very often!


I want to force these systems to support hi-res 1680x1050 or 
better so I can VNC to them from my main machine and be able 
to use graphic software to operate and maintain these machines.


Right now I mostly use ssh and it can be a real pain!

Can anybody tell me how to accomplish this or point me to a 
"How To" somewhere?


I am running Jessie and XFCE.

Many TIA!!
Dennis

Double-click doesn't work in many apps

[Dennis Wicks]

I'm running Jessie and double-click-to-open doesn't work in 
IceDove,FileManager, Libre, every place so far where I am 
used to it working previous to Jessie, it now doesn't.


Anybody have any insight on this?

TIA,
Dennis

Re: bash-complete errors

[Dennis Wicks]

David Wright wrote on 07/27/2015 12:12 AM:

Quoting Dennis Wicks (w...@mgssub.com):

Frequently when I run a command in a terminal window (Debian 8.1
Xfce) I get a bunch of errors.


/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: syntax error near unexpected token `('
/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: ` -?(\[)+([a-zA-Z0-9?]))'
/bin/bash: error importing function definition for `_parse_usage'
/bin/bash: _longopt: line 14: syntax error near unexpected token `('
/bin/bash: _longopt: line 14: ` --+([-a-z0-9_]))'
/bin/bash: error importing function definition for `_longopt'


I have googled these and have not been able to find anything that
tells how to fix the problem. Does anybody have any info on how to
get rid of these?


I googled   _parse_usage   and hit 2 was 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778282

I know nothing about Xfce or krb5-user, so I can't say whether
this is sufficient to fix your problem, though I am a bit surprised
you didn't turn it up.

Cheers,
David.


I did see that but it sounds like it only works for root 
shells started with sudo or su. And that is correct. But my 
problem is with user shell running bash. However, I put the 
command in my user .bashrc and .profile and when I start a 
*new* shell, no more errors. It does not work to just run 
the command

bash /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
from the command line after the shell is started.

Thanks for the comment. I wouldn't have revisited that bug 
report otherwise.


TNX!
Dennis


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Fall-back after upgrade?

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings!

I am considering upgrading from Jessie 8.1 to Stretch 
(testing) to see if some problems disappear.


Is there any procedure for backing out the upgrade just in 
case things don't work out?


TIA,
Dennis


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Re: What package contains the time daemon?

[Dennis Wicks]

Mart van de Wege wrote on 07/27/2015 12:49 AM:

Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:


On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote:

Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:


Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for
nothing.


I know. I really do. I only have been running Debian since potato. On
the other hand, someone's gotta run Sid, or it'll never get debugged.


Yeah, well that ain't me. I have enough trouble with 
releases labeled stable!




Mart




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Re: What package contains the time daemon?

[Dennis Wicks]

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote on 07/26/2015 03:40 PM:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:27:50 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:


I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is
completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past).


Use your wristwatch.

 Or better, your cellphone or GPS receiver.


   Or: http://nist.time.gov
   Or: (303) 499-7111



Cheers,

Ron.




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Re: bash-complete errors

[Dennis Wicks]

Mark Neyhart wrote on 07/23/2015 02:10 PM:

On 07/23/2015 08:45 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Greetings,

Frequently when I run a command in a terminal window (Debian 8.1 Xfce)
I get a bunch of errors.


/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: syntax error near unexpected token
`('


This will happen if you are running a command with an unescaped ( in
the parameters.  It may work to enclose the whole parameter string in
double quotes.  Or escape any ( and ) with a leading \.  For example:

mycommand (34)

mycommand stuff \(34\)

Mark Neyhart




Mark,

Thanks for the info, but it happens with commands which I 
don't pass any args/parameters to, and they are programs 
that came with the system or were installed later, and is 
pretty consistent. So, it appears that you are correct in 
your analysis, but I can't do anything about it!


I did discover that it happens only when running a login 
shell. I say only because it did appear to happen once 
when it wasn't a login shell but I couldn't repeat that 
condition.


Thanks for the help,
Dennis


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Re: What package contains the time daemon? (approx vs ntp)

[Dennis Wicks]

Paul E Condon wrote on 07/26/2015 10:14 AM:

On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote:




Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much
more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the
same time as the external reference clock as is done by both ntp and
ntpdate, approx computes an estimate of *rate* of ticking of the local
clock. Properly used, in a stable HVAC environment, it can keep the
local clock synced with internet time with as few as one reading per
week of the external internet time.


On Debian approx is similar to apt-proxy and has nothing to 
do with time or clocks. Where can I get the one you are 
referring to?




It is my experience that internet time is vastly inferior to the
precision of proper laboratory grade atomic clocks of a decade or two
ago. Furthermore, no one really wants his computer clock to be
scientifically correct to the point of being useful for running the
data links to the space probe to Pluto.


What is your definition of internet time? I have always 
understood it to be what you get from stratum one and two 
time servers. If you like the voice version you can listen 
to WWV.


I have between 8 and 12 computers on my local network. When 
something goes wrong just a few seconds difference in clock 
time makes it nearly impossible, alright, extremely 
difficult, to match up log files and figure out what is wrong.



What everyone should want is
just that their computer clock agrees with the computer clocks of the
web sites with which they communicate. THAT is largely determined by
social convention, which cares very little about logical scientific
correctness.


Don't particularly give a * what time some web site 
thinks it is!


Regards,
Dennis


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Icedove does not open messages on double-click??

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I am running fairly vanilla Jessie 8.1 and now Icedove does 
not open messages on double-click, only on enter, at least 
90% of the time anyway.


And F does not go to the next message unless the current 
one was opened with double-click.


Any hints, tips, etc.?

TIA!
Dennis


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bash-complete errors

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings,

Frequently when I run a command in a terminal window (Debian 
8.1 Xfce) I get a bunch of errors.



/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: syntax error near unexpected token `('
/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: ` -?(\[)+([a-zA-Z0-9?]))'
/bin/bash: error importing function definition for `_parse_usage'
/bin/bash: _longopt: line 14: syntax error near unexpected token `('
/bin/bash: _longopt: line 14: ` --+([-a-z0-9_]))'
/bin/bash: error importing function definition for `_longopt'


I have googled these and have not been able to find anything 
that tells how to fix the problem. Does anybody have any 
info on how to get rid of these?


Many TIA!
Dennis


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What do I use for Flash on firefox?

[Dennis Wicks]

I have searched and searched and I can't find a definitive 
solution.


Since Flash is no longer supported or updated by Adobe, what 
do I use instead and how do I get it installed so firefox 
and Sea Monkey can use it?


Thanks for any help and/or suggestions.

TIA,
Dennis


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How to find dirs with single item

[Dennis Wicks]

Can't quite figure out how to do this.

I'd like to be able to scan a Volume or directory and find 
all directories that have only one item in them. Either 
directory or file.


Any ideas??

TIA!
Dennis


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tar message

[Dennis Wicks]

What does it mean when tar displays message file changed as 
we read it? Is anything wrong? BTW All instances involved 
jpg files.



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Re: tar message

[Dennis Wicks]

Andreas Rönnquist wrote the following on 03/19/2013 06:11 PM:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:37:42 -0500,
Dennis Wicksw...@mgssub.com wrote:


What does it mean when tar displays message file changed as
we read it? Is anything wrong? BTW All instances involved
jpg files.




Are you by any chance adding all files in a folder to a tarball
inside the same folder?

This will cause this message to be shown, since such a command will try
to add the created tarball to itself.

An example:

tar czvf mytar .

This will add all files in the folder to mytar, but since mytar also
is created in the same folder, eventually it will come to that file,
and when does, it will try to be added to itself.

A solution is to work on the archive one folder up from the files you
want to tar:

tar czvf archive myfolder

or
tar cvzf ../archive .

-- Andreas Rönnquist
mailingli...@gusnan.se
gus...@gusnan.se




That is it! Thanks! Out-smarted myself!!




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Need help recovering hard drive

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

One of my hard drives quit working, and as luck would have 
it, just before the scheduled backup! So I need to recover 
some info that has been updated/added since the last backup.


First, is there any thing I can do to get the system to 
mount that drive even with errors? As it is right now I get 
error messages at boot time and the drive isn't recognized. 
Apparently doesn't make any difference whether the drive is 
on controller 0 or 1 or is master or slave.


Second, is there any program that I can use to get data of 
off that drive?


TIA for any help!
Dennis


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Need help recovering hard drive

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

One of my hard drives quit working, and as luck would have 
it, just before the scheduled backup! So I need to recover 
some info that has been updated/added since the last backup.


First, is there any thing I can do to get the system to 
mount that drive even with errors? As it is right now I get 
error messages at boot time and the drive isn't recognized. 
Apparently doesn't make any difference whether the drive is 
on controller 0 or 1 or is master or slave.


Second, is there any program that I can use to get data of 
off that drive?


TIA for any help!
Dennis


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Need help recovering hard drive

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

One of my hard drives quit working, and as luck would have 
it, just before the scheduled backup! So I need to recover 
some info that has been updated/added since the last backup.


First, is there any thing I can do to get the system to 
mount that drive even with errors? As it is right now I get 
error messages at boot time and the drive isn't recognized. 
Apparently doesn't make any difference whether the drive is 
on controller 0 or 1 or is master or slave.


Second, is there any program that I can use to get data of 
off that drive?


TIA for any help!
Dennis


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