Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.
Another user here made a comment that clued me into what the problem really was. I had done an update of Trixie which went fine. Then I started to do something which I had been planning for a while - remove the Cinnamon desktop. I was doing it piecemeal when seemingly the internet dropped out. It did, because part of the removal process at that point was to remove network-manager. Long story shorter, I downloaded network-manager and it's dependencies, copied them over to Debian and installed them . The net popped up . Sorry for the noise all caused by operator error. Thanks to all who responded. If I had kept my eyes open to what I was doing, there would not have been a problem. On 9/16/24 4:07 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 15:47:10 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Tom Furie wrote: Actually, it doesn't look good - you don't have any ip addresses on eno1, the interface is down. You're going to have to find out why that is. Since it's recognized, it was probably not configured. Easiest: edit /etc/network/interfaces to include these lines for eno1: -- iface eno1 auto iface eno1 inet dhcp -- And then run sudo ifup eno1 to get it running. Didn't the initial message say that the Internet *was* working, and then suddenly *stopped* working, right in the middle of a download? That, together with the interface not being UP, points to the configuration being OK, but something going wrong at the hardware or kernel level, I think. (Unless of course a configuration change was made during that download.) -- Frank McCormick
Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.
On 2024-09-16 14:46, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: On Monday, September 16, 2024 7:59:44 PM CEST Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on one of two partitions on my ssd. Hi! I'm having similar random disconnect issues where even DHCP would stop working since very recently. Can you check if DHCP is broken for you too when this happens? Just pull the reconnect ethernet and see if it's able to get an IP address at all. I haven't had any DHCP problems at all. But I'll check.
Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.
On 2024-09-16 14:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. We can rule out the ISP, the router, any switches in the way, any cables and the NIC because another OS works on the same hardware. What's left? - firmware for the NIC loaded at boot time - kernel recognition of the NIC - IP address (via DHCP? static?) - routing - DNS If this gets through, then your machine can contact the outside world. At that point, it's probably a DNS issue, and you should report the contents of /etc/resolv.conf to us. franklin:/home/frank# ip link show 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eno1: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 franklin:/home/frank# ip address show 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lovalid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eno1: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 ping: connect: Network is unreachable franklin:/etc# cat resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 24.201.245.77 nameserver 24.200.243.189 nameserver 2607:fa48:2:f000::1 # NOTE: the libc resolver may not support more than 3 nameservers. # The nameservers listed below may not be recognized. nameserver 2607:fa48:2:f008::1 I am no expert but it seems to look good. Firefox can't find any site, Thunderbird still reports no connectionss.
Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.
On 2024-09-16 14:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Ever since that I have no internet access in Trixie. It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. We can rule out the ISP, the router, any switches in the way, any cables and the NIC because another OS works on the same hardware. What's left? - firmware for the NIC loaded at boot time - kernel recognition of the NIC - IP address (via DHCP? static?) - routing - DNS Testing some of these will rule out others if they succeed. Skip to the ping check at the end, and if it doesn't work, let's go from the bottom up: ip link show If this gets you your NIC, then the firmware is OK and the kernel recognizes it. Show us the output, please. ip address show If this gets you the correct (or a correct) IP address, then DHCP or static address configuration is good. Again, show us the output. ping 8.8.8.8 If this gets through, then your machine can contact the outside world. At that point, it's probably a DNS issue, and you should report the contents of /etc/resolv.conf to us. I'll reboot into Trixie and be back soon. Thanks
Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.
On 2024-09-16 14:27, Kent West wrote: On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary files complaining it could not resolve a bunch of Debian repositories. Ever since that I have no internet access in Trixie. It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. Can someone help me diagnose the problem ? What happens if you try: # systemctl restart networking I've had to do that several times today on my sid box. I've not gotten around to pursuing the problem, as the above solves my problem (at least temporarily). I'll reboot and try that. Following a suggestion I found on the net I did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and that **seems** to have restarted the network, BUT browsers can't find any sites and Thunderbird reports failures to connect. I think I am over my head here but could it be a DNS problem ??
Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.
I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary files complaining it could not resolve a bunch of Debian repositories. Ever since that I have no internet access in Trixie. It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. Can someone help me diagnose the problem ? This is my apt sources list deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie main contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates main contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-backports main contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-proposed-updates non-free-firmware main contrib non-free Thanks
Re: printer replacement
Hi Gerard, HPLIP stands for hp-linux-imaging-and-printing ^ and isn't made for other OSs. Lock here> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index for compatibility of your new printer. Kind regards Frank Gerard ROBIN: Hello, my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is linux compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable with "HP Smart" under Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also under linux ? Otherwise how can it be configured ? tia.
systemd-tmpfiles: file globbing?
systemd-tmpfiles-clean will watch directories and periodically purge old contents. eg d /var/cache/man 0755 man man 1w will delete files older than a week from /var/cache/man Is there a way to apply max lifetimes to files matching a pattern? I can't find any way to tell it to, say, remove *.txt files older than a month from /tmp/foo. -- Frank Van Damme Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Op 26-05-2024 om 15:26 schreef Michael Kjörling: Quite a few people run Debian testing. Some even as a daily driver. That's fine. But if you do, you need to keep in mind that it _is_ "testing". You can't expect the same level of stability as with the stable distribution. And you definitely need to pay close attention to what every upgrade wants to do to your system _especially_ in terms of removals. Absolutely. If something like that threatens to happen, I usually put the offending package on hold and check what issues that causes. That has worked well for me so far. The recent t64 switch period was... interesting.
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Op 25-05-2024 om 14:51 schreef Lucio Crusca: Besides it is also a misleading answer: testing is not a complete distro, in that you *need* to add stable and/or sid in order to actually use it Nonsense. I've been running a 'pure' testing since 2008. No sid or stable in sight. Please don't spread misinformation.
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Re: which package to file a bug report ?
Marco Moock: Am Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:59:41 +0100 schrieb Frank Weißer : The installer does format it as ext4, but shows ext2 and places that in fstab, what ends up in emergency mode. That's why I'm here That is definitely a bug. So we are at my original question: Which package to file a bug report ? readU Frank
Re: which package to file a bug report ?
First of all: I use german during installation; but I doubt that is relevant. Marco Moock: Am 22.02.2024 schrieb Frank Weißer : I only choose ext2 for formatting the encrypted partition, because nothing else is offered. That is really strange. If I did install Debian 12, it offered me a list of different file systems, including ext2/3/4. It does on non-crypt partitions, but not if I choose 'physical volume for encryption' there; then afterwards I only have the choices to use it as ext2, swap or lvm or leave it unused for the encrypted partition. Despite that the partition in fact is getting formatted ext4, so the entry ext2 in /etc/fstab leads into emergency mode. Does the installer format it as ext4, but shows ext2 and places that in fstab? Or do you format it manually? The installer does format it as ext4, but shows ext2 and places that in fstab, what ends up in emergency mode. That's why I'm here
Re: which package to file a bug report ?
Marco Moock: Am 22.02.2024 um 13:18:48 Uhr schrieb Frank Weißer: I use to encrypt my swap and /var/tmp partitions during installation. That is LUKS. the partition tool in debian installer offers me randomized keys for that and has 'delete partition' set to 'yes', which costs lot of time, not necessary on new hdd/ssd and - my opinion - on randomized keys. I propose switching to 'no', when selecting randomized keys. Why? A user can rather easy select what he wants. As I said: My opinion; if you miss setting 'no' you have to wait a lot of time... Further I can select ext2 or swap for partition format. That is really strange. swap is only for the special-purpose swap partition. Yes, I choose it for the swap partition I use ext2 for /var/tmp, but - in /etc/crypttab the marker 'tmp' is missing for the /var/tmp partition Which marker? This one: frank@pc:~$ cat /etc/crypttab sda4_crypt /dev/sda4 /dev/urandom cipher=aes-xts- plain64,size=256,swap,discard sda5_crypt /dev/sda5 /dev/urandom cipher=aes-xts- plain64,size=256,tmp,discard ^^^ crypttab is only for decrypting the partition and creating a device file for the encrypted one. - in /etc/fstab ext2 is set instead of ext4, that cryptsetup defaults to. So on reboot I end up in emergency mode. If you format it in ext2, choose that. Or was that an automatic decision by the installer? I only choose ext2 for formatting the encrypted partition, because nothing else is offered. Despite that the partition in fact is getting formatted ext4, so the entry ext2 in /etc/fstab leads into emergency mode. I think the partitioning tool in installer should offer to format the encrypted partition in ext4, as LUKS (?) does, instead of ext2 and must write ext4 to /etc/fstab, as this is, how it ends up.
which package to file a bug report ?
Hello! I use to encrypt my swap and /var/tmp partitions during installation. the partition tool in debian installer offers me randomized keys for that and has 'delete partition' set to 'yes', which costs lot of time, not necessary on new hdd/ssd and - my opinion - on randomized keys. I propose switching to 'no', when selecting randomized keys. Further I can select ext2 or swap for partition format. I use ext2 for /var/tmp, but - in /etc/crypttab the marker 'tmp' is missing for the /var/tmp partition - in /etc/fstab ext2 is set instead of ext4, that cryptsetup defaults to. So on reboot I end up in emergency mode. What package have I to file the bug report against? Please apologize my poor english. Kind regards readU Frank
Automatic installation of Debian 11 on ARM64
Hi, Has anyone successfully used the "automatic installation" option for the Debian 11 installer? I was expecting this option to give me screen where I can enter the URL to my preseed file (which it does on x86), but all I get on arm64 is a black screen and a blinking cursor. There are no apparent error messages. Any tips on how to debug further would be appreciated. Thanks, Frank
Re: Qt6 Location for Debian 12
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2023, 19:00:19 CEST schrieb Patrick Franz: > Hej, > > Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2023, 16:52:24 CEST schrieb Petric Frank: > > Hello, > > > > is there a *.deb for Qt6 Location (-dev) module ? > > > > I have seen there is one for Qt6 Positioning in the stable repository > > but i miss the above one. > > > > Or do i have to compile the Qt6 system myself ? > > There is no Location module for Qt 6.4. It never existed. However, it > got reintroduced as a tech preview for 6.5. I got a hint on a git project where Qt6Location was compiled for older Qt Versions (< 6.5): https://github.com/ntadej/qtlocation Maybe the 6.4.2 release of it could be a candidate for being repackaged as *.deb ? He made also a Qt Location plugin for maplibre-native-qt (open source fork/ rewrite of mapbox gl). It can be used accessing a versatiles mapping server.
Qt6 Location for Debian 12
Hello, is there a *.deb for Qt6 Location (-dev) module ? I have seen there is one for Qt6 Positioning in the stable repository but i miss the above one. Or do i have to compile the Qt6 system myself ? kind regards Petric
Re: auto add usb network to bridge
Hello Reco, the "allow-hotplug ..." and "up /sbin/ip ..." what what i was missing. Works like a charm. Thanks for your and others support. regards Petric Am Montag, 25. September 2023, 11:50:32 CEST schrieb Reco: > Hi. > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:35:50AM +0200, Petric Frank wrote: > > My /etc/network/interfaces reads like this: > > -- cut > > auto lo > > iface lo inet loopback > > > > # onloard device > > iface ens18 inet manual > > > > # usb device (not always there) > > iface enx0 inet manual > > > > auto br0 > > iface br0 inet static > > > > address 10.10.10.1/24 > > bridge-ports ens18 enx0 > > bridge-stp off > > bridge-fd 0 > > > > -- cut > > > > This works as long the usb device is plugged in at boot time. > > > > Connecting it later the usb network device appears but will not be > > attached to the bridge. > You have to do it differently, like this: > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # onloard device > iface ens18 inet manual > > # usb device (not always there) > allow-hotplug enx0 > iface enx0 inet manual > up /sbin/ip link set $IFACE master br0 > > auto br0 > iface br0 inet static > address 10.10.10.1/24 > bridge-ports ens18 > bridge-stp off > bridge-fd 0 > > What that does is forces udev to execute "ifup enx0" on USB device > detection, which in turn causes the network interface to attach to br0. > > Reco
auto add usb network to bridge
Hello, a special problem. I have a debian (12) machine which has an onboard network card. This machine acts as dhcp-server also. Now i want to add a usb network device. But this is not always there. It is plugged in when needed. And it should serve the same network as the onboard one. My idea was to create a bridge and attach the host network interface to it. The problem now is how to get the usb network card attached to the bridge when plugged in. My /etc/network/interfaces reads like this: -- cut auto lo iface lo inet loopback # onloard device iface ens18 inet manual # usb device (not always there) iface enx0 inet manual auto br0 iface br0 inet static address 10.10.10.1/24 bridge-ports ens18 enx0 bridge-stp off bridge-fd 0 -- cut This works as long the usb device is plugged in at boot time. Connecting it later the usb network device appears but will not be attached to the bridge. Any hints ? regards Petric
qtcreator: no qml utility
Hello, on Debian 12 (Plasma Desktop) i've installed qtcreator from Debian repository. In the settings of qtcreator the qt 5.15.8 is listed as Qt version. But with a exclamation mark. Below i see "no QML utility installed". But if i execute on cmdline qml -v the output is Qml Runtime 5.15.8 "which qml" says /usr/bin/qml This packages are installed: apt install qtcreator qml build-essential qtbase5-dev qt5-qmake cmake Why qtcreator does not detect the qml utility ? What is missing ? kind regards Petric
Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
Hi, On 15.08.23 21:48, Russell L. Harris wrote: Consider evolution. Tried it. Used >6GB RAM. .f OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)
Op 19-08-2023 om 21:19 schreef Christoph K.: I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). To be honest, I've long since forgotten what the default is. I've used Liberation Mono Regular everywhere in my Xfce DE for ages and I have never mistaken an l for an I or vice versa. Regards, Frank
Re: [Solved] Re: xrdp and KDE Plasma desktop
Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2023, 05:36:56 CEST schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 15/07/2023 00:04, Petric Frank wrote: > > After some debugging i found a working solution. Allocated file in/etc/ > > polkit-1/rules.d/99-networkmanager.rules containing: > > > > --- cut -- > > polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) { > > > > if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control") { > > > > if (subject.isInGroup("netdev")) { > > > > return polkit.Result.YES; > > > >} > > > > } > > > > }); > > --- cut -- > > > > Hope that helps others. > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information. > en.html#changes-to-polkit-configuration "5.1.13. Changes to polkit > configuration": > > For consistency with upstream and other distributions, the polkit > (formerly PolicyKit) service, which allows unprivileged programs to > access privileged system services, has changed the syntax and location > for local policy rules. You should now write local rules for customizing > the security policy in JavaScript, and place them at > /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/*.rules. Example rules using the new format can be > found in /usr/share/doc/polkitd/examples/, and polkit(8) has further > information. > > Previously, rules could be written in pkla format, and placed in > subdirectories of /etc/polkit-1/localauthority or > /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority. However, .pkla files should now be > considered deprecated, and will only continue to work if the > polkitd-pkla package is installed. This package will usually be > installed automatically when you upgrade to bookworm, but it is likely > not to be included in future Debian releases, so any local policy > overrides will need to be migrated to the JavaScript format. Thanks for the link. It was a little problematic for me to find the correct rules using the big "trash dump" like google and others. Finally i got it and posted it here to help others with the same problem. There are other services (device mount, etc.) affected by the "password request" dialogs which also have to be covered this way when connecting via xrdp. Maybe also driven by group membership.
[Solved] Re: xrdp and KDE Plasma desktop
Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2023, 08:08:41 CEST schrieb Petric Frank: > Am Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2023, 12:27:22 CEST schrieb Max Nikulin: > > On 12/07/2023 20:51, Petric Frank wrote: > > > If i look at the nmcli general permissions for the id i get: > > >org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control auth > > > > > > If i log in locally i get: > > >org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control yes > > > > > > It seems that something goes wrong - but what and how to fix it ? > > > I use the same userid both times. > > > > Perhaps it is polkit that grants to local users more privileges than to > > remote ones, e.g. to reboot or to power off. Moreover, it (or some other > > daemon) may pass access e.g. to sound card on switch of currently active > > session when several local users are logged in. > > > > Likely it is possible to change default policy to give more rights to a > > specific user even when a remote session is started. > > Thanks for the hint. After some debugging i found a working solution. Allocated file in /etc/ polkit-1/rules.d/99-networkmanager.rules containing: --- cut -- polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) { if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control") { if (subject.isInGroup("netdev")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } } }); --- cut -- Hope that helps others. kind regards Petric
Re: xrdp and KDE Plasma desktop
Am Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2023, 12:27:22 CEST schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 12/07/2023 20:51, Petric Frank wrote: > > If i look at the nmcli general permissions for the id i get: > >org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control auth > > > > If i log in locally i get: > >org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control yes > > > > It seems that something goes wrong - but what and how to fix it ? > > I use the same userid both times. > > Perhaps it is polkit that grants to local users more privileges than to > remote ones, e.g. to reboot or to power off. Moreover, it (or some other > daemon) may pass access e.g. to sound card on switch of currently active > session when several local users are logged in. > > Likely it is possible to change default policy to give more rights to a > specific user even when a remote session is started. Thanks for the hint. I found the page https://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=12073 which posts 2 possibilities for a similar problem on ubuntu. The unsafe way (set Allow_Any = yes) works, but the safer one (define file in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d) not. I created afiler named 02-networkmanager.conf containing: --- cut polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) { if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control") && subject.isInGroup("{netdev}")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } }); --- cut I looks to me that either the directory is wrong and/or the file name is wrong. Any ideas ? regards
xrdp and KDE Plasma desktop
Hello, i'm not sure where to look for this problem. Entering here because the Debian Bookworm is used. Installed Debian with Plasma desktop. The installed xrdp anf tigervnc- standalone-server to allow RDP connections. If i connect to this machine using xfreerdp the desktop is correctly shown. But immediately a password request popup window is displayed containing this (freely translated from german): - cut Title: Authentication required Action: Allow control of network connections Identity: org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control ... - cut If i look at the nmcli general permissions for the id i get: org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control auth If i log in locally i get: org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control yes It seems that something goes wrong - but what and how to fix it ? I use the same userid both times. kind regards Petric
Re: VirtualBox key is store in deprecated legacy keyring
Op 20-06-2023 om 08:53 schreef Rick Thomas: On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, at 8:27 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:15 PM Rick Thomas wrote: Now when I do "apt update" I get this message: .W: https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/bullseye/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details. Has anybody else seen this? If so, what did you do? And did it help? I _think_ the key should be stored in its own file under /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d. Maybe something like /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/virtual-box.gpg. That was the method suggested after using /etc/apt/trusted.gpg became deprecated. These days, another method is preferred: adding [signed-by=] to the sources.list line and putting the key in /usr/share/keyrings or /etc/apt/keyrings. This squares with what I get from RTFM, and I'm glad to hear the confirmation, but... Where can I get the text to put into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/virtual-box.gpg Here: https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc Got that from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads They suggest adding the source line to /etc/apt/sources.list, which is not what I would do. You should really put in a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. This is what I would do: sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list <<-EOT deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/virtualbox.asc] https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bullseye contrib EOT Followed by: sudo wget -O /usr/share/keyrings/virtualbox.asc https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc No need to dearmor. Regards, Frank
Re: Apt sources.list
Op 18-04-2023 om 16:33 schreef Vincent Lefevre: On 2023-04-15 21:59:19 +0200, Frank wrote: Op 15-04-2023 om 18:12 schreef Tixy: Testing doesn't get explicit security support so there's no point in having 'testing-security' lines in sources.list (I guess it'll give an error anyway). No error. It exists but as a perpetually empty repository. This is incorrect. cventin:~> apt-show-versions -a libtpms-dev libtpms-dev:amd64 0.9.2-3.1~deb12u1 testing-security security.debian.org No stable version No stable-updates version libtpms-dev:amd64 0.9.2-3.1 testing ftp.debian.org libtpms-dev:amd64 0.9.2-3.1 unstable ftp.debian.org No experimental version libtpms-dev:amd64 not installed libtpms-dev:i386 0.9.2-3.1~deb12u1 testing-security security.debian.org No stable version No stable-updates version libtpms-dev:i386 0.9.2-3.1 testing ftp.debian.org libtpms-dev:i386 0.9.2-3.1 unstable ftp.debian.org No experimental version libtpms-dev:i386 not installed Interesting. Like Tixy, I was under the impression testing didn't receive security support. I remember checking that several times over the years. Curious. Regards, Frank
Re: Apt sources.list
Op 16-04-2023 om 13:12 schreef Andrew M.A. Cater: Release day when someone pushes the magic switch and the symlinks move :) [snip] "Testing" == "Previous contents of Unstable" (== Trixie / Debian 13) Are you kidding? No way! Unstable is never pushed into testing just like that. There are packages that will never move to testing at all! "Unstable" == Sid == empty /some of the contents of RC-Buggy (some of which will == Debian 14 eventually as Forky) And this doesn't make sense either. Regards, Frank
Re: Apt sources.list
Op 15-04-2023 om 22:15 schreef Andrew M.A. Cater: On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 08:14:11PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Sat 15 Apr 2023 at 16:45:40 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: I would suggest that you remain on bookworm until bookworm is released as stable. At that point (and only then) change bookworm to trixie and carry on. As soon as bookworm is released, there will be massive churn. OK. But how is testing one day before the release of bookworm significantly different from trixie a day afterwards? "Testing" one day before bookworm release -> bookworm. On release day, bookworm -> "stable", "unstable" -> testing == trixie Trixie is copied, essentially as the kickstarter for new "unstable". "Unstable" == Forky. The pent up changes that have been waiting while the freeze has been on all come out at once, potentially. It might not be very much, but it could be a bunch of stuff, size, effects unknown. Bookworm has been frozen-ish since January ... Yet if the OP intends to stay with testing, switching now would be fine. Or do you seriously believe moving from bookworm (old testing) to trixie (new testing) would have a different effect to staying with testing while it moves from bookworm to trixie? The flood of packages after the freeze ends would be the same either way. Regards, Frank
Re: Apt sources.list
Op 15-04-2023 om 18:12 schreef Tixy: On Sat, 2023-04-15 at 08:11 -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: According to https://www.debian.org/releases/, bookworm at this time is "testing". But when the next release comes, bookworm will still be bookworm, but "testing" will be bookworm "plus". I'd like to follow testing, regardless of the status of Debian official releases. So... in my sources.list, if I change "bookworm" to "testing", will it do that, and (other than the instabilities of testing) is there any liability to it? Testing doesn't get explicit security support so there's no point in having 'testing-security' lines in sources.list (I guess it'll give an error anyway). No error. It exists but as a perpetually empty repository. Regards, Frank
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 1/5/23 13:12, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: I am getting close to reinstalling Debian ( shades of Windows) ! Debian sid is unstable by name mostly because of package churn and large transitions like this. Unfortunately, it's not intended for inexeperienced users - you are expected to be able to resolve most problems yourself - "if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces". Lots of folk go to use sid because they want to be very up to date when the boringness of Debian stable with security support and defined upgrade paths is more appropriate for them. If something is going to update 80 packages at once, try manually using apt or apt-get to install five at a time - take it more steadily and take notes of any package breakage, maybe. Look in the Debian bugs database / the Debian package tracker to see what bugs have been recorded against lightdm recently. I've been running Sid for about 10 years and yes it has broken from time to time, but, with some knowledge and a lot of help from the people on this list I have always managed to put the two pieces back together. At the same time I also run Fedora on another partition which I believe is a little more leading edge than Sid. It too breaks time to time. And to add to the mix I have just started running OpenSuse Tumbleweed which keeps me on my toes. I guess I am a bear for punishment. One day soon I will drop two of the three. Until then I appreciate everyone's help. With every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater Thanks for any help. -- Frank McCormick
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 1/5/23 14:45, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 09:12:58 -0500 Frank wrote: Yes, the file exists and is owned by lightdm. I don't know whether this is correct as I can't find any info on who should own it. It would be more useful to those trying to help you if you showed the actual results rather than telling us what you find significant. Agreed in retrospect Like so: root@hawk:~# ls -ld /var/lib/lightdm drwxr-x--- 6 lightdm lightdm 4096 Oct 29 2021 /var/lib/lightdm root@hawk:~# ls -la /var/lib/lightdm total 28 drwxr-x--- 6 lightdm lightdm 4096 Oct 29 2021 . drwxr-xr-x 70 rootroot4096 Sep 30 16:10 .. drwxr-xr-x 7 lightdm lightdm 4096 Oct 29 2021 .cache drwx-- 5 lightdm lightdm 4096 Mar 5 2022 .config drwxr-xr-x 4 rootroot4096 Dec 19 11:54 data drwxr-xr-x 3 lightdm lightdm 4096 Oct 29 2021 .local -rw--- 1 lightdm lightdm 686 Jan 5 11:35 .Xauthority root@hawk:~# Note that I include the trailing prompt to show that the command ended rather than that the result was truncated. This is from a working system which I have rebooted since most of those dates. You may find it useful to check against your directory. I did indeed. In checking what I had there were a couple of differences which hadn't seemed to make much difference. But I have fixed those now. I appreciate your help. -- Frank McCormick
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 1/5/23 13:44, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 06:12:07PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 09:12:58AM -0500, Frank wrote: There are other strange things going on which may or not be related. I tried to reinstall lightdm and the greeter using apt. (The Debian partition is mounted on my Fedora partition) but apt failed saying it could not contact debian.deb to gain access to the needed files. I downloaded the files from Fedora and moved them to Debian but dpkg said it could not access them !!?? If you're using raw dpkg tp install them - you are root? If using su, it needs to be su - to get roots login environment. Unless you create an /etc/default/su file to fix what Debian broke. unicorn:~$ cat /etc/default/su ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes That restores the PATH behavior to how it was before Debian switched upstream sources for su in buster. Anyway, it sounded like the OP had some permission/ownership changes which were breaking things, but they managed to find them and revert them. Or some of them. We'll have to await further details. I managed to fix most of the problem permissions, and just now fixed the rest with the help of Charles Curley's posting of the permission on his system. I think we are now back to normal, whatever that means. Thanks all -- Frank McCormick
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 1/5/23 09:53, Greg Wooledge wrote: /snip/ Error writing X authority: Failed to open X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority: Permission denied Does that file exist? If so, ls -ld /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority If not, ls -ld /var/lib/lightdm Hell, just do both regardless of whether the file currently exists. It's one command with two lines of output. Should be the first thing you do. Yes, the file exists and is owned by lightdm. I don't know whether this is correct as I can't find any info on who should own it. I tried moving it out of the way hoping lightdm or the greeter would recreate but no luck. Hmm, that's weird indeed. If the file is owned by lightdm (the user), that implies that lightdm (the program) was able to write it in the past. If it can't do so now, then we have to try to guess what changed which could lead to this result. Possibility 1: lightdm (the program) no longer runs as lightdm (the user). Pissibility 2: a new restriction has been added to the service which launches lightdm (the program). Something at the AppArmor level, or at the systemd unit level, perhaps. It is strange as there were no updates yesterday of lightdm or the greeter. How about in recent days? Maybe a change occurred a few days ago, but you hadn't rebooted, so the changes didn't actually have any impact yet. The GTK greeter was updated the day before but Debian started and ran fine after that. I don't know what this is. A separate package? Lightdm uses various greeters which provide various login appearances to the user. This is confusing. Are you saying that you have a multi-boot system, with both Debian and Fedora installed on the same hard drive? And that you booted into Fedora, then mounted the Debian root file system somewhere, and then chrooted into it? Yes I have a multi boot system. I only mounted Debian in Fedora to read log files, and move the two deb files to debian. I downloaded them in fedora. but apt failed saying it could not contact debian.deb to gain access to the needed files. Wait... you DID NOT chroot into the Debian file system after mounting it?! How in the hell did you expect ANYTHING to work...? No, I was not trying to use Debian commands from Fedora. I was in the Debian emergency shell. I am no system admin, but I do know that won't work. As it turns out dpkg failed because of other problems. A bunch of files and directories related to sudo had been changed to being owned by me instead of root. This I absolutely do not understand!! I had to fix them one by one in the Debian emergency shell. OK, basic primer: mkdir /debian mount /dev/whatever /debian chroot /debian There's fancy crap you can do involving bind mounts of /proc and so on, but you probably don't need all that. That said, I think you've jumped ahead too far. Your Debian system apparently boots just fine -- it just doesn't run X. That wasn't the problem. Seemingly it ran X but lightdm didn't run so X was killed. That's what it looked like. So boot Debian, either normally, or with the "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" kernel parameter, login on a regular text console, and fix it from there. Once I fixed the sudo problem, dpkg worked and I reinstalled lightdm and the greeter it uses. The system then booted fine but I have no idea how it got into that state. Another thing you could try would be to boot your previous kernel, in case it was a kernel update that broke lightdm. It might not make any difference, but hey, it's worth trying. Another other thing you could try would be to run 'startx' from a regular text console after booting Debian and logging in on said console. If X starts correctly that way, then you know the problem is truly in the DM, not in X, video drivers, video firmware, etc. We suspect this already, but confirmation is always good. These are good ideas I will try then next time I have a similar problem, hopefully never. Thanks for all your help and advice. -- Frank McCormick
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 1/5/23 09:24, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 05/01/2023 11:12, Frank wrote: Is there a way to reinstall lightdm and the greeter from Fedora ?? Perhaps using chroot which I have zero knowledge of. Since the problem seems to be the display manager/greeter, there's a good chance that you can press Ctrl+F1 (or F2, F3...) to reach a console, so no need to a console to reinstall debian packages. Try also Ctrl+Alt+Fn. I never tried that unfortunately. It might have saved me a lot of trouble. I finally got lightdm and it's greeter reinstalled after fixing some other problems and the system then booted fine. The strange thing in my mind is how the whole thing happened, as only the lightdm greeter had been updated and that was a few days ago. Thanks for the suggestion - Ill try to keep it in mind. -- Frank McCormick
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 2023-01-04 11:23 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 11:03:15PM -0500, Frank wrote: ** (process:734): WARNING **: 22:32:38.355: Error reading existing Xauthority: Failed to open file ?/var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority?: Permission denied Error writing X authority: Failed to open X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority: Permission denied Does that file exist? If so, ls -ld /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority If not, ls -ld /var/lib/lightdm Hell, just do both regardless of whether the file currently exists. It's one command with two lines of output. Should be the first thing you do. Yes, the file exists and is owned by lightdm. I don't know whether this is correct as I can't find any info on who should own it. I tried moving it out of the way hoping lightdm or the greeter would recreate but no luck. See if you can figure out which user lightdm is trying to run as. Try to make it so that user can write that file, either by removing the existing file, or chowning it, or fixing the permissions on the directory. Whatever is indicated by the lightdm changelog. Hopefully there's a note in the lightdm changelog about this. Or in NEWS. There are no notes or news file for lightdm so I am in the dark. It is strange as there were no updates yesterday of lightdm or the greeter. The GTK greeter was updated the day before but Debian started and ran fine after that. There are other strange things going on which may or not be related. I tried to reinstall lightdm and the greeter using apt. (The Debian partition is mounted on my Fedora partition) but apt failed saying it could not contact debian.deb to gain access to the needed files. I downloaded the files from Fedora and moved them to Debian but dpkg said it could not access them !!?? Is there a way to reinstall lightdm and the greeter from Fedora ?? Perhaps using chroot which I have zero knowledge of. I am getting close to reinstalling Debian ( shades of Windows) ! Thanks for any help.
Re: debian sid no boot after this morning's update
On 2023-01-04 7:30 p.m., Frank wrote: Just went back to my Debian Sid installation this evening to discover it won't boot. There were 88 updates this morning so I suspect my problem is related to that. Has anyone else run into this? How would I go about diagnosing what's wrong? I tried booting in emergency mode but don't know what to look for. Adding more info. All i get is a flashing cursor on a black screen. Digging around in the emergency shell I found two logs related to lightdm. It seems it is having problems running the greeter. This is part of the lightdm log [+0.33s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Display server ready, starting session authentication [+0.33s] DEBUG: Session pid=734: Started with service 'lightdm-greeter', username 'lightdm' [+0.35s] DEBUG: Session pid=734: Authentication complete with return value 0: Success [+0.35s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Session authenticated, running command [+0.35s] DEBUG: Session pid=734: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter [+0.35s] DEBUG: Creating shared data directory /var/lib/lightdm/data/lightdm [+0.35s] DEBUG: Session pid=734: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/seat0-greeter.log [+0.37s] DEBUG: Activating VT 7 [+0.37s] DEBUG: Activating login1 session c5 [+0.37s] DEBUG: Seat seat0 changes active session to c5 [+0.37s] DEBUG: Session c5 is already active [+0.37s] DEBUG: Greeter closed communication channel [+0.37s] DEBUG: Session pid=734: Exited with return value 1 [+0.37s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Session stopped [+0.37s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Stopping; failed to start a greeter [+0.37s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Stopping [+0.37s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Stopping display server [+0.37s] DEBUG: Sending signal 15 to process 720 [+0.38s] DEBUG: Seat seat0 changes active session to [+0.52s] DEBUG: Process 720 exited with return value 0 [+0.52s] DEBUG: XServer 0: X server stopped This is the greeter log ** (process:734): WARNING **: 22:32:38.355: Error reading existing Xauthority: Failed to open file ?/var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority?: Permission denied Error writing X authority: Failed to open X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority: Permission denied
debian sid no boot after this morning's update
Just went back to my Debian Sid installation this evening to discover it won't boot. There were 88 updates this morning so I suspect my problem is related to that. Has anyone else run into this? How would I go about diagnosing what's wrong? I tried booting in emergency mode but don't know what to look for. The emergency prompt suggested journalctl -xb so that's what I did but I didn't see anything obviously wrong. Right now I am at my wits end. Good thing I have a working Fedora partition. Help!
Re: "usermod: user user is currently used by process" while using (trying to) thunderbird to back up my gmail account's data ...
Op 06-11-2022 om 16:38 schreef Albretch Mueller: on debian live: $ uname -a Linux debian 5.10.0-18-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.140-1 (2022-09-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux $ I am running: $ thunderbird --version Thunderbird 91.13.0 $ to download all the data in my gmail account via POP3, but Thunderbird seems to be making assumptions about where to put your data and I haven't found a way to tell it where to put it; If all you want to do is make thunderbird put (most of) its data elsewhere, you could change the profiles.ini file that exists in ~/.thunderbird. Mine has this: [Install9238613B8C3D2579] Default=/data/thunderbird [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=0 Path=/data/thunderbird Default=1 [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 Version=2 Except for the few files/directories that need to be in ~/.thunderbird, all thunderbird data ends up in /data/thunderbird. Of course, you should make sure the actual profile data is in the right location before you run thunderbird like this. Regards, Frank
Re: t-bird screwing up
Op 30-10-2022 om 20:15 schreef Fred: On 10/30/22 07:54, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; One or maybe more of my t-bird msg filters has gotten the path to move a msg to local folders/name has somehow gotten contaminated with a "nobody" user in the path, which of course does not exist, so apparently that filter is sending msgs from a good friend to /dev/null. This is not at all nice. How to fix, I can't find it in any of the config options. Thanks all for any help. In the meantime I'll nuke the malformed filter Cheers, Gene Heskett. I am having trouble with T-bird also (102.3.0 32 bit). The address book is no longer on the normal message page but is now under tools. However, it does not scroll. Furthermore the hiding scroll bar on T-bird and Firefox is really annoying. Something that isn't broken should not be "fixed". I'm not seeing those address book issues here (TB 102.4.1). Scroll bars: Preferences (scroll down) -> Configuration editor -> layout.testing.overlay-scrollbars.always-visible = true Regards, Frank
Re: signing up to fourms
Op 19-10-2022 om 11:16 schreef Curt: On 2022-10-19, Bruce H. wrote: Am I going to have to find another distro or can you all get your shit together so I can join the forums and use a Debian distro? You don't need to join anything. Just point your newsreader to 'news.gmane.io'; 'gmane.linux.debian.user'. Anyhow, maybe if you can't figure out how to sign up, they're filtering potential users by technical ability. :-) He's rambling about forums. I think he may be confusing the mailing lists with the actual forums at forums.debian.net.
Re: Fw: Forced to Purge Thunderbird
On 2022-10-13 10:32, lists tomgeorge.info wrote: *From:* lists tomgeorge.info *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:13 AM *To:* debianu...@lists.debain.org *Subject:* Forced to Purge Thunderbird The company hosting my domain name has forced a switch to microsoft outlook. No longer supports pop3 protocol. Result: Thunderbird frozen, all address list lost. outlook works, must log on for each email account, does not seem to link responses by subject. I would like to switch to new host which can use thunderbird Any suggestions Do they not support IMAP ? If they do Thunderbird handles IMAP on my machine with no problems. Frank
Re: usrmerge
Sent this earlier, but it doesn't show up on the list, so I must have used 'reply to sender' instead of 'reply to list'... :( Op 03-10-2022 om 15:30 schreef billium: There was no failed or manual moves. usrmerge may have failed during previous upgrades and I may not have noticed. Please do not waste any time on this as no one else has reported errors. Actually... https://askubuntu.com/questions/1426981/unable-to-upgrade-usrmerge-due-to-both-lib-x86-64-linux-gnu-libc-so-6-and-usr No real answers/solutions there either, though. It is not that difficult to install :) . True. Thanks again for your time. You're welcome. Regards, Frank
Re: usrmerge
Op 02-10-2022 om 21:29 schreef billium: /usr/bin /usr/lib* & /usr/sbin are directories /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu & /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu are directories /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 are both files Before the fault occurred I had made no changes (except apt update /upgrade). After the fault, I tried changing the root directory (/lib /bin) files to sym links but got bored by the time I had done thirty different files. Bad idea anyway. It's not about symlinking individual files. Everything is moved to the corresponding subdirectories in /usr and the directories in the root are replaced by symlinks. There are only six of those on my system (also debian testing). I undid the above changes, and the system works o.k., just not upgradeable. Right. I still don't get how that libc.so.6 file could have ended up in two places (earlier failed usrmerge? another script? manually after all?), but in my view there are only two possible ways to fix this: the clean one (reinstalling) and the messy one (completing the usrmerge manually). Be aware that the latter comes with no guarantees whatsoever and will probably fail massively if you didn't fully restore the above changes (i.e. left a symlink somewhere). If you want to go the messy route, I'll need to check a couple of things first. Can't do that until later today. Regards, Frank
Re: usrmerge
Op 02-10-2022 om 19:12 schreef billium: /bin, /lib(*) and /sbin are directories not links, sorry I did not make that clear. And the corresponding items in /usr? Also directories? What about /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6? Both files? And /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu? Both directories? Did you by any chance copy (or move or symlink) individual files before the usrmerge upgrade? Regards, Frank
Re: sshd package systemd misconfiguration?
Op 16-09-2022 om 09:17 schreef Michael: with ssh@.service it is completely different. for each connection there is a dedicated sshd process being started, and each one of them has the same /run/sshd directory assigned. and that's the problem if you have more than one connection to a given host. as soon as the first connection is terminated, the /run/sshd directory disappears, and the other sshd's might run into problems. Apparently this has already been 'fixed' for bookworm. That is, the service section of the ssh@.service file currently includes RuntimeDirectoryPreserve=yes. Maybe file a bug report to have this added for bullseye? Regards, Frank
Re: Seeing progross during fsck on boot
On 9/3/22 04:56, Mike wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 12:31:35AM +0200, DdB wrote: Just thinking about your request ... Imagine this: You run "fsck -N ..." and get a rough estimate about the time necessary to get the I/O and the job done, then it would be easy to set up some timed countdown in parallel with the real fsck job, just for you to have an idea about the time left. Alternatively, copy the whole device to another place, peform the fsck there and decide, if copying back the result would be faster of just running fsck on the original device. What i am intending to make you think about: Sometimes it is way more difficult and time consuming to get a rough estimate of some result, than to actually just get it for real. (You may talk to some math PHD about that.) ... not worth the effort, because even you would prefer to get the result as fast as possible and not wait twice the time just to know ahead of time, when the job is likely to finish. Does that make sense to you too? Hi, Thanks for the replies. Rereading my original request, I think perhaps I wasn't entirely clear on a couple of points: 1) When there server starts, the default behaviour is to fsck the disks if they have been longer than 120 days (or something like that) without a fsck. It's a server and runs 24x7, so you can bet your bottom dollar that if if it does reboot, it will need to fsck. You can also bet that it was an uncontrolled shutdown because the UPS caught fire or something, so it's probably wise to run fsck. I haev no issue with this happening 2) I'm not too worried about how long it's actually going to take. The main issue is that I've had a couple of instances where the box has rebooted, I've sat around waiting for it to reboot, wondered why it hasn't, plugged a monitor in and seen jack on the screen, then just as I panic about what major issue could be wrong with it and key CTRL+ALT+DEL to see if I missed anything... I see the disk lights are solid on and assume it must be running fsck. Sometimes it does find some erros and spits that out to the screen. Otherwise it just sits there like a dog that's been shown a card trick. Maybe I'm being nostalgic but I seem to recall in days gone by that fsck printed a progress bar out of hashes to show how it was getting along. Someone asked about the file systems in use. Some are ext3 and some are ext4. TL;DR: When my server boots up and decdies to spent four hours fscking the disks, I'd just like to see some indiction that it's still alive and doing something :-) Regards, Mike. This is from the e2fsck manual. It may be relevant SIGNALSThe following signals have the following effect when sent to e2fsck. SIGUSR1 This signal causes e2fsck to start displaying a completion bar or emitting progress information. (See discussion of the -C option.) SIGUSR2 This signal causes e2fsck to stop displaying a completion bar or emitting progress information. -- Frank McCormick
Re: SSH resources, specifically on certificates (certificate authentication)
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 8:56 AM wrote: > > > > dsr, Thanks for the reply! > > Like I said, I think I went down a rabbit hole, and I wish I had realized that > before I went there. > > I've invested quite a few calendar days (and "spare" manhours) in trying to > figure this out, so I'm not quite ready to give up. > > I do have some ideas (an idea) for another pass through some of the > documentation that might clarify what I need / want to know, but, especially > if that doesn't work, I may write a WikiLearn page or two that mainly just > warns about the rabbit hole. > > I'm almost certain I will be back with some specific questions that maybe you > or someone else on the list can answer. > > Thanks again! > > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 02:11:30 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Dan Purgert wrote: > ... > > > > > On Jul 13, 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > I seem to have gone down a rabbit hole. > > > Right, the problem is in everything to support that: running a > > certificate authority in a secure manner is extremely > > non-trivial. Running it in a secure and reliable manner is even > > more non-trivial. > > > > In general, I don't recommend it. Consider this: > > > > - an SSH certificate has a date on which it will expire. When > > that day comes, it will stop functioning. If you don't have > > infrastructure to remind you to re-issue this in advance, you > > may be locked out of whatever you are trying to access. > > > > - conversely, if you want to revoke an SSH certificate before > > the expiration date, you need to maintain and distribute a > > revocation list of all the certs that you no longer approve of. > > Miss a machine and the old cert is still valid up to the > > expiration date. > > > > For most people in most cases, those are not the behaviors that > > they want. > > > > > I've never seen this implemented in any place I've worked in > > > the last 2 decades (granted, I "only" have said 2 decades of > > > "professional" experience); rather they've always used either (a) keys, > > > or (b) password + RSA Token (or other 2FA / TOTP mechanism) > > > > And the reason is that those fit what people want more closely > > than the cert mechanism. > > > > If you've got a very large organization, you may want to support > > the infrastructure to generate new SSH certs for people daily, > > with expiration dates of 24 hours. Then you need to make sure > > that mechanism is working perfectly and has appropriate > > redundancy, so that you don't accidentally lock out the whole > > organization tomorrow. > > > > -dsr- > > -- SSH certificate authentication is not complicated and has many advantages. Some organizations use SSH certificates to provide limited access for admins to servers. In my opinion using SSH certificates is preferred to just using ssh keys. There are a number of guides on how to implement ssh certificates - if you are unable to locate, ping me directly and I may have a document I wrote for myself a while back. Best, Frank
Re: digikam import fails
On 2022-06-16 16:23, gene heskett wrote: On 6/16/22 15:42, mick crane wrote: On 2022-06-16 20:19, gene heskett wrote: The shell I ran digikam from is reporting screens full of missing this and that despite the installation of digikam pulling in: 0 upgraded, 261 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 273 MB of archives. After this operation, 726 MB of additional disk space will be used. Then when I run it, there are hundred of missing that and than lines spit out in the shell I launched it from. try gphoto2 ? if camera is on list http://gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php should you not be able to mount it as a filesystem ? I like geeqie for viewing images. mick I installed it, but: gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt install gphoto2 [sudo] password for gene: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: libcdk5nc6 Suggested packages: gthumb The following NEW packages will be installed: gphoto2 libcdk5nc6 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 320 kB of archives. After this operation, 1,341 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 libcdk5nc6 amd64 5.0.20180306-3 [129 kB] Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 gphoto2 amd64 2.5.27-1 [191 kB] Fetched 320 kB in 0s (858 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package libcdk5nc6:amd64. (Reading database ... 136011 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libcdk5nc6_5.0.20180306-3_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libcdk5nc6:amd64 (5.0.20180306-3) ... Selecting previously unselected package gphoto2. Preparing to unpack .../gphoto2_2.5.27-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking gphoto2 (2.5.27-1) ... Setting up libcdk5nc6:amd64 (5.0.20180306-3) ... Setting up gphoto2 (2.5.27-1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-2) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-13+deb11u3) ... -.-.-. gene@coyote:~$ gphoto2 Usage: gphoto2 [-?qvalLnPTDR] [-?|--help] [--usage] [--debug] [--debug-loglevel=STRING] [--debug-logfile=FILENAME] [-q|--quiet] [--hook-script=FILENAME] [--stdout] [--stdout-size] [--auto-detect] [--show-exif=STRING] [--show-info=STRING] [--summary] [--manual] [--about] [--storage-info] [--shell] [-v|--version] [--list-cameras] [--list-ports] [-a|--abilities] [--port=FILENAME] [--speed=SPEED] [--camera=MODEL] [--usbid=USBIDs] [--config] [--list-config] [--list-all-config] [--get-config=STRING] [--set-config=STRING] [--set-config-index=STRING] [--set-config-value=STRING] [--reset] [--keep] [--keep-raw] [--no-keep] [--wait-event=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING] [--wait-event-and-download=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING] [--capture-preview] [--show-preview] [-B|--bulb=SECONDS] [-F|--frames=COUNT] [-I|--interval=SECONDS] [--reset-interval] [--capture-image] [--trigger-capture] [--capture-image-and-download] [--capture-movie=COUNT or SECONDS] [--capture-sound] [--capture-tethered=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING] [-l|--list-folders] [-L|--list-files] [-m|--mkdir=DIRNAME] [-r|--rmdir=DIRNAME] [-n|--num-files] [-p|--get-file=RANGE] [-P|--get-all-files] [-t|--get-thumbnail=RANGE] [-T|--get-all-thumbnails] [--get-metadata=RANGE] [--get-all-metadata] [--upload-metadata=STRING] [--get-raw-data=RANGE] [--get-all-raw-data] [--get-audio-data=RANGE] [--get-all-audio-data] [-d|--delete-file=RANGE] [-D|--delete-all-files] [-u|--upload-file=FILENAME] [--filename=FILENAME_PATTERN] [-f|--folder=FOLDER] [-R|--recurse] [--no-recurse] [--new] [--force-overwrite] [--skip-existing] gene@coyote:~$ You've obviously got GThumb installed - it **usually** comes with the Gthumb photo import tool which I suspect uses the GPhoto2 library(s). Check with apt whether it's a separate download. I use it all the time except when I am in Mate when the Caja file manager loads up my camera automatically. Do you have any desktop like Gnome or Mate ?
Re: Firefox insists to be default !?
Me too. Firefox 95.0.2 in Mate fully updated. I have had this problem before but it always sorted itself out later. On 2022-01-12 14:52, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Hi all, After the recent upgrade of Firefox (and Thunderbird) in oldoldstable (Mate desktop), Firefox always asks me to be default browser, even though I have set it as default in Mate's default applications, and respond to that asking by click on 'dont ask me again'. Furthermore, Thunderbird is also set as a default email client. However, if I click on a weblink in Thunderbird mail, another Thunderbird session opens (instead opening Firefox). And when I close both software, and return to Mate control panel to check again for default applications ... voila ... Thunderbird seems as magically selected for both mail client and web browser there! How to prevent that misbehaviour? All worked well with previous versions of Firefox and Thunderbird. What went wrong with new versions? Misko
Re: suitable email agent
off the subject, does shentel now use mail2world as the email hosting? shentel.net.60 IN MX 10 mx1.pangia.biz. shentel.net.60 IN MX 10 mx2.pangia.biz. When I used shentel years ago, they were not hosted by mail2world. On 2021/12/13 11:38, gene wrote: That looks as it it would be happy with my cuurent fetchmail/procmail sucking my imap account at my isp.
Re: Can't do apt-update because code name is changed from bullseye to bookworm
Op 18-08-2021 om 06:51 schreef Richard Forst: When doing apt-get update, debian throws following error. It looks like because the code name changed from bullseye to bookworm. E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org testing-security InRelease' changed its 'Codename' value from 'bullseye-security' to 'bookworm-security' N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. E: Repository 'https://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' changed its 'Codename' value from 'bullseye' to 'bookworm' N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'https://download.zulip.com/desktop/apt stable InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386' However in my sources.list is neither bullseye nor bookworm as below (I use testing-security). How can I fix this error?Thanks The Suite for testing changed from bullseye to bookworm, so you get this message. Fix it by adding the --allow-releaseinfo-change switch to apt-get update. By the way, there hasn't been anything in testing-security for years, so you might as well remove it from your sources.list. Regards, Frank
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Issues with Bullseye
Op 15-08-2021 om 18:01 schreef Hans: Hi all, discovered something. It looks like the keys are still not synced to the mirrors. I changed from ftp.de.debian.org to deb.debian.org, and all is working like a charm. So, I suppose, this issue might be solved. But it would be nice to add a package with the actual keys into the repo. The keys in the package "debian-archive-keyring" are too old (2012.1.1). They're not. They're 2021.1.1.
Re: Issues with Bullseye
Op 15-08-2021 om 16:51 schreef Hans: Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 16:36:05 CEST schrieb Brian: Yes, you are very right! There isn't any such thing as being "too critical" when it comes to technical matters :). A link to the page you were looking at might help. To everyone: I have still the problem, that the debian/bullsye repo can not be authenticated. Copying the Release.gpg from the repo to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ did not help. That doesn't surprise me. That's a signature, not a key. It would really help, if there could be an upgraded debian-archive-keyring package or a little documentation, how to add/import the keys into trusted.gpg.d/ since apt-key does not work any more. Simply copying does not work(!) and the documentation really lacks some information, which would help. Simply copying works, if you use the correct file. If the key is armored, make sure the extension is .asc. Otherwise it should be .gpg. But downloading an up-to-date version (2021.1.1) of debian-archive-keyring and installing that (using dpkg -i if necessary - see below for a direct url) should suffice. Regards, Frank http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debian-archive-keyring/debian-archive-keyring_2021.1.1_all.deb
Re: security.debian.org bullseye/updates Release does not have a Release file
Op 15-08-2021 om 08:23 schreef John Covici: Hi. I did a apt-get update changing from buster to bullseye and got the above message -- should I just wait a few days and try again or something else? Thanks. bullseye/updates is not the location for bullseye's security repo. Change the relevant line in your sources.list to: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main Add contrib and non-free at the end if you use them. Regards, Frank
Re: Upgrade problems?
On 7/21/21 12:24 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:04:13PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: frank@fedora ~$ stat / File: / Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory Device: 806h/2054d Inode: 2 Links: 18 Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 1000/ frank) Context: system_u:object_r:root_t:s0 Access: 2021-07-21 10:22:56.572440309 -0400 Modify: 2021-06-26 15:48:58.771330459 -0400 Change: 2021-06-27 10:10:28.333447227 -0400 Birth: 2021-06-11 13:38:48.0 -0400 Looks like owned by root but access by frank ? Will chown work ? Your hostname is "fedora"? Um. Skipping that for now Yes, chown would work, although chgrp would be the more "natural" pick. Either chown 0:0 / or chgrp 0 / While you're poking around in there, the permissions are also different from what one would normally expect on Debian. chmod 755 / Then again, if this isn't actually a Debian host, the 555 permissions on the root directory might be normal. Good grief! This comment stirred my memory and I realized I had rebooted into Fedora 34 AFTER I had updated Debian Bullseye. >Your hostname is "fedora"? Um. Skipping that for now > Nevertheless, I am still pullzed by those errors. Back in Debian is redid the debug suggestions. frank@franklin:~$ stat / File: / Size: 4096Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 2 Links:18 Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: (0/root) Gid: (0/root) Access: 2021-07-21 10:28:15.256580076 -0400 Modify: 2021-07-21 10:14:11.300131364 -0400 Change: 2021-07-21 10:20:43.718277098 -0400 Birth: 2020-07-12 12:23:46.0 -0400 (sorry about the wrapping) frank@franklin:~$ ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Jul 21 10:14 / So "/" is owned by root with proper permissions! What now ?? Sorry folks. Frank -- Frank McCormick
Re: Upgrade problems?
On 2021-07-21 10:52 a.m., Kushal Kumaran wrote: On Wed, Jul 21 2021 at 09:26:41 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. Setting up systemd (247.3-6) ... Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/lock. Detected unsafe path transition / → /var during canonicalization of /var. Detected unsafe /snip/ frank@fedora ~$ stat / File: / Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory Device: 806h/2054d Inode: 2 Links: 18 Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 1000/ frank) Context: system_u:object_r:root_t:s0 Access: 2021-07-21 10:22:56.572440309 -0400 Modify: 2021-06-26 15:48:58.771330459 -0400 Change: 2021-06-27 10:10:28.333447227 -0400 Birth: 2021-06-11 13:38:48.0 -0400 Looks like owned by root but access by frank ? Will chown work ? Thanks
Upgrade problems?
Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. Setting up systemd (247.3-6) ... Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/lock. Detected unsafe path transition / → /var during canonicalization of /var. Detected unsafe path transition / → /var during canonicalization of /var/lib. Detected unsafe path transition / → /var during canonicalization of /var/lib/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd/netif. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd/netif. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/systemd/netif. So far, doesn't seem to affect the operation of the computer. Thanks -- Frank McCormick
Re: Thunderbird problems
On 6/14/21 9:46 PM, Robbi Nespu wrote: On 6/15/21 6:24 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: The latest version of Thunderbird which was updated recently is giving me problems connecting to gmail. How can I downgrade Thunderbird on this machine? I am running Bullseye Let me guess, you unable to connect imap and smtp right? I having that kind of issue. $ apt-cache policy thunderbird thunderbird: Installed: 1:78.11.0-1 Candidate: 1:78.11.0-1 Version table: *** 1:78.11.0-1 500 500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status with setting up few thing below, I can see it said unable to connect to imap.. $ export MOZ_LOG=IMAP:5,timestamp $ export MOZ_LOG_FILE=/tmp/imap_thunderbird.log $ thunderbird $ tail -f /tmp/imap_thunderbird.log # on separate terminal I give up to check further so, I clear up the account (keep data) and re-add the account and sync from start again. Now I can use...to connect and see my email, but failure when sending out email. it have smtp issue too (change MOZ_LOG=SMTP:5,timestamp).. the remove the account and resync for second time, look resolve my issues what waste of bandwidth for today I downloaded he generic 64 bit version of Thunderbird from the Mozilla website and set it up in my home directory. Works fines, connects everywhere so obviously the problem is with the Debian build of Thunderbird. I filed a bug report with Mozilla. Perhaps I should do the same with Debian? -- Frank McCormick
Thunderbird problems
The latest version of Thunderbird which was updated recently is giving me problems connecting to gmail. How can I downgrade Thunderbird on this machine? I am running Bullseye -- Frank McCormick
Re: passwordless SSH
It is much better to use SSH certificates, not a great deal of extra work, but well worth it. Simplifies management and works well for automation. Best, Frank On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:15 PM David Wright wrote: > On Sat 29 May 2021 at 18:25:50 (-0400), Bob Weber wrote: > > > Now follow the instructions at: > > > > https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-setup-passwordless-ssh-login/ > > > > You will need to follow those instructions for each linux server you > > want to backup. The .ssh directory will be under the directory listed > > in the passwd file (/var/lib/backuppc).? DO NOT USE A PASSWORD TO > > create the key pair files! They should go into the > > /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh directory (only do this ONCE!). In step 03. > > the username should be root@ip-address (you will need root access on > > that machine to backup all files from the backuppc user on the > > backuppc server). In step 04 you should be able to "ssh > > root@ip-address" without a password. > > I do this as a matter of course when I set up my machines … > > > THESE COMMANDS ARE RUN ON EACH SERVER TO BE BACKED UP. > > … (not the backuppc stuff, but just the passwordless login) … > > > If yyou can't "ssh root@ip-address" without a password you may also > need the line > > > > "PermitRootLogin yes" > > > > in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on each server to be backed up. > > I avoid this wrinkle with a trick that's especially simple when it's > done first thing after installation (but it's easy at any time). > > On machine A: > > # ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub @hostB > > where the sysadminuser¹ is as yet unconfigured for passwordless > login by ssh. On machine B, as sysadminuser: > > $ /bin/su - > # mv -i /home//.ssh/authorized_keys /root/.ssh/ > # chown 0.0 /root/.ssh/authorized_keys > > If sysadminuser already had some keys in authorized_keys, > then root will need to edit the key from the last line of > /home//.ssh/authorized_keys rather than just > moving the file (and make sure you don't leave behind a > backup in /home//.ssh/authorized_keys~). > > Alternatively, you can move sysadminuser's authorized_keys > out of the way while you type the lines shown above, and then > move it back. (Stay logged in to sysadminuser while you do this.) > > > If you want to you can follow the instructions at "Disabling SSH > > Password Authentication". Be very careful to follow the instructions > > closely. These are not needed to get backuppc running! You will need > > to be able to sudo into root from an unprivileged user to get root > > access so be VERY careful to follow the instructions. > > ¹ I'm assuming root and sysadminuser are the same person, and others > don't (yet) have access to the machine. > > Cheers, > David. > >
Re: thunderbird
On 5/30/21 4:24 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 5/30/21 4:04 PM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2021 18:29:11 + fxkl47BF wrote: for a few decades i have used pine/alpine. i'm considering a new mail application. there are more out there than you can shake a stick at. what are your thoughts of thunderbird. A bit slow and heavy for my liking. I used to use it, then switched to Claws-Mail, which is faster and seems to do what I need. Thunderbird will find all the esoteric locations, etc. that email systems need to function. Claws mail does not. If I knew how to find the necessary information, I would try claws mail. --doug I tried Claws mail a few years ago. I could never get it setup properly for IMAP. Thunderbird did it flawlessly. -- Frank McCormick
Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye
Op 13-02-2021 om 14:56 schreef songbird: Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 22:18 schreef Gary Dale: ... I can do the same with Dolphin but I find it clumsy. FileZIlla is made to let you transfer files between local and remote directories. That's exactly what I do with caja, either from one tab to the other or between separate windows. I'm not sure what's supposed to be clumsy about it. probably the part about the remote machine not being accessible to casual logging in or browsing. at least for my own purposes there's no other method to get to that machine unless i want to use a horrible web interface. Ok. My setup, using bookmarks and login data in the keyring, allows me to browse any of my remotes after two mouse clicks: one to open the bookmark list and one to select the site. when i transfer files back and forth for the website i'm not always using direct copies and only in one direction being important. if i make a change on the website end and don't want my next batch of transferred files to clobber it FileZilla has the options for not having that happen. in a batch of 1500 files with many subdirectories that isn't possible with a simple copy from one tab to another. Right. That makes sense. I hardly ever want what's on a site and the local copy to differ, so for me copying between tabs/windows is fine. Regards, Frank
Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye
Op 12-02-2021 om 22:18 schreef Gary Dale: On 2021-02-12 14:12, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. What file manager do you use? I stopped using FileZilla for ftps years ago and only use MATE's caja these days. Hasn't stopped working and I keep my (bullseye) system up-to-date, so whatever TLS library caja is using, this bug doesn't affect it. Regards, Frank I can do the same with Dolphin but I find it clumsy. FileZIlla is made to let you transfer files between local and remote directories. That's exactly what I do with caja, either from one tab to the other or between separate windows. I'm not sure what's supposed to be clumsy about it.
Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye
Op 12-02-2021 om 20:15 schreef Paul Scott: On 2/12/21 12:12 PM, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. What file manager do you use? I stopped using FileZilla for ftps years ago and only use MATE's caja these days. Hasn't stopped working and I keep my (bullseye) system up-to-date, so whatever TLS library caja is using, this bug doesn't affect it. gFtp seems to fail also. Do you know what works for Gnome on sid? No idea, sorry. I use Xfce, but I don't like Thunar, so I installed caja. caja is based on GNOME's nautilus, so would expect that to work as well. Haven't tried it though. Regards, Frank
Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye
Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. What file manager do you use? I stopped using FileZilla for ftps years ago and only use MATE's caja these days. Hasn't stopped working and I keep my (bullseye) system up-to-date, so whatever TLS library caja is using, this bug doesn't affect it. Regards, Frank
Re: Firefox problem
On Wed, 03 Feb 2021 05:20:01 +0100, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 23:12:52 - (UTC) > Frank Miles wrote: > >> With the most recent Firefox update, some of the widgets on a >> Bibliocommons (library) website cease working. They still work >> either using the Epiphany browser, or my android phone. >> >> Any recommendations on how I might debug this? > > Sometimes Firefox loses its marbles. To check on this, shut Firefox > down, move ~/.mozilla aside (rename it), then start Firefox up again. > > If that solves the problem, you have some re-installing to do. If that > doesn't solve the problem, reverse the above. That fixes it! As such, I presume it's a matter of piece-by-piece "installing" add-ons and configuration settings, not installing Firefox itself since that "works". Thanks for the tip!! Frank
Firefox problem
With the most recent Firefox update, some of the widgets on a Bibliocommons (library) website cease working. They still work either using the Epiphany browser, or my android phone. Any recommendations on how I might debug this? Running DebianAmd64 'Buster'. Thanks for any suggestions! -Frank
Re: [OT] Wifi AP for Gigabit LAN/WAN
Hi, have a look to ubiquiti-AP. https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/ The AP-AC-Pro systems with two RJ45-connectors work with bonding up to 2,5 Gbit. Am 25.01.21 um 20:16 schrieb basti: Hello, at the moment I use 802.11n /2.4GHz wifi. I get 1 Gbit down/250 Mbit up WAN in 2 months. I'm search for wifi AP to get the best out of my WAN connection. I know I need 5GHz wifi. Are there any recommends? best regards -- This email was Virus checked by Sophos UTM. http://www.sophos.de smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: apt-key deprecated
Op 12-01-2021 om 07:47 schreef Erwan David: Hello, to install signal desktop client, I followed their instructions, which is to add their repository and, obviously their Kry. However, I got a warning Warning: apt-key is deprecated. Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8)). But how to do this ? man apt-key says : Note: Instead of using this command a keyring should be placed directly in the /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ directory with a descriptive name and either "gpg" or "asc" as file extension. So the question is how can I get a keyring file from the key file I downloaded ? If that's the keys.asc file that starts with -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- then that *is* the (ascii armoured) keyring file. You can put that in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ Regards, Frank
(solved) Re: fibre problem with Intel 82571EB
Thanks to Wolfgang from > debian-...@lists.debian.org the following did the trick: IMO this is not a network card issue. I guess renaming the interface names would help. Only do the following if the system isn't used by anyone else... (0) Put down the MAC addresses of eth3 and eth4 (eth4 should be eth0 and eth3 should be eth1 later) (1) Remove 'net.ifnames=0' from the kernel command line in /etc/default/grub (2) Run 'update-grub' (3) Reboot. 'ip a' will show you the persistent network interface names (probably something like enpXsY, where Y is the slot name) and MACs (4) Add MAC matching lines at the begin of /etc/network/interfaces, e.g.: rename enp0s3=eth0 rename enp0s8=eth1 (5) Reboot and check if everything works, otherwise fix the renaming lines Frank Weißer: Hi folks! Situation: Debian-Edu 10 Server with eth0 NC(=unused) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02) Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection Kernel driver in use: e1000e eth1-4 eth1 NC eth2 NC eth3 flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth4 flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.2.2 netmask 255.0.0.0 04:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82571EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Fiber) (rev 06) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 PF Quad Port Server Adapter Kernel driver in use: e1000e I can reach tjener via fibre cable and switch and use it with scp, smb and so on. But dhcp, bxe-boot and ltsp-clients don't work. dhcp requests via #dhclient eth4 need about 70 seconds to give me an ip. Network manager already gives up in that time. Even connecting direct (with a media converter, not using other fiber cables or switches) doesn't work. So cable/switch don't seam to hurt. How can I tell 82571EB to do its work? If I switch eth4's address to eth0 (copper) everything works fine. So services seem to be running appreciating any answer readu Frank
fibre problem with Intel 82571EB
Hi folks! Situation: Debian-Edu 10 Server with eth0 NC(=unused) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02) Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection Kernel driver in use: e1000e eth1-4 eth1 NC eth2 NC eth3 flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth4 flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.2.2 netmask 255.0.0.0 04:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82571EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Fiber) (rev 06) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 PF Quad Port Server Adapter Kernel driver in use: e1000e I can reach tjener via fibre cable and switch and use it with scp, smb and so on. But dhcp, bxe-boot and ltsp-clients don't work. dhcp requests via #dhclient eth4 need about 70 seconds to give me an ip. Network manager already gives up in that time. Even connecting direct (with a media converter, not using other fiber cables or switches) doesn't work. So cable/switch don't seam to hurt. How can I tell 82571EB to do its work? If I switch eth4's address to eth0 (copper) everything works fine. So services seem to be running appreciating any answer readu Frank
Re: Hiding an app
On 10/13/20 1:37 PM, Carl Fink wrote: On 10/13/20 12:17 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running the Mate desktop on Debian Bullseye. I just installed TZclock after removing the Mate clock from the taskbar. One annoyance is TZclock appears on the taskbar. Does anyone know how to prevent this? Is it in the Notification Area? Right click in a blank part of the area (I use the top row of pixels) and choose Panel >> Panel Preferences Unselect TZClock. No, it appears in the window list area, the same area where other running applications appear. Other window managers provide a way to skip the task bar for applications, but I can't find any way to do it in Mate. -- Frank McCormick
Hiding an app
I am running the Mate desktop on Debian Bullseye. I just installed TZclock after removing the Mate clock from the taskbar. One annoyance is TZclock appears on the taskbar. Does anyone know how to prevent this? Thanks -- Frank McCormick
Re: can't boot to a graphical interface.
On 10/3/20 11:20 AM, Kent West wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 8:01 AM songbird <mailto:songb...@anthive.com>> wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: > While compiling an application today my Debian bullseye system somehow > got messed up. It will boot to a CLI but no X, apparently because for > some reason the system is unable to access some files in > /usr/share/dbus-1. It keeps saying access denied. The directories and > files are owned by root, and if I noot to a CLI I have no trouble > accessing them using sudo and midnight commander. > > I tried reinstalling systemd but it ended with the same problem. On my bullseye/sid lappie, for comparison to yours: kent@westk-9463:~$ ls -lah /usr/share/dbus-1/ total 84K drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4.0K Sep 17 19:55 . drwxr-xr-x 610 root root 20K Sep 5 16:26 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Aug 6 20:50 accessibility-services drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12K Aug 6 21:03 interfaces drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20K Aug 6 20:55 services -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.6K Jul 2 08:19 session.conf drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Sep 17 19:55 session.d -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.7K Jul 2 08:19 system.conf drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Sep 17 19:55 system.d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Aug 6 21:08 system-services kent@westk-9463:~$ ls -lahd /usr/share/dbus-1/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4.0K Sep 17 19:55 /usr/share/dbus-1/ My system now is back to **normal**. I re-installed about a dozen packages including systemd. I also changed one mode to match yours. frank@franklin:~$ ls -lah /usr/share/dbus-1/ total 44K drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K Oct 3 10:08 . drwxr-xr-x 246 root root 12K Oct 2 16:56 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Oct 3 10:08 interfaces drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Oct 3 09:20 services -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.6K Jul 2 09:19 session.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.7K Jul 2 09:19 system.conf drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Oct 3 10:08 system.d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Oct 3 10:08 system-services Still don't know what the h*ll happened. Thanks Kent -- Frank McCormick
can't boot to a graphical interface.
While compiling an application today my Debian bullseye system somehow got messed up. It will boot to a CLI but no X, apparently because for some reason the system is unable to access some files in /usr/share/dbus-1. It keeps saying access denied. The directories and files are owned by root, and if I noot to a CLI I have no trouble accessing them using sudo and midnight commander. I tried reinstalling systemd but it ended with the same problem. Can anyone help? Thanks -- Frank McCormick
Re: dns cache for localdomain via djbdns
On 12.08.20 15:28, Dan Ritter wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 02:59:23PM +0200, Patrick Frank wrote: Greg writes: You can execute the "./run" script by hand for testing purposes [...] When I tried "exec envuidgid Gnscache ..." it logged me out. Greg writes: unicorn:~$ ls -l /etc/dnscache/ This directory is missing the "supervise" directory. Dan writes: svc -d /service/dnscache It outputs: unable to control /service/dnscache: file does not exist P.
dns cache for localdomain via djbdns
Hello, on a Debian 10 host I created a virtual machine with very basic features to build a dns cache for my home network with djbdns. I fail to understand how Daemontools are used properly. Following the instructions on http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/install.html went okay. http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/run-cache-x.html at step 5 is where I am stuck. When I go to /service/dnscache and execute "run" it says "starting" so I try svstat /service/dnscache which outputs: "/service/dnscache: unable to open supervise/ok: file does not exist" Any hints, please? P.
Re: Slic3r --gui won't run
Op 19-07-2020 om 16:32 schreef Reco: On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Whats my sources.list suposed to look like? One of the possible ways of doing it: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free Reco Don't use ftp.debian.org. https://wiki.debian.org/ftp.debian.org Regards, Frank
Re: Update errors
On 7/8/20 10:45 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2020-07-08 10:20 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: Apt flagged a couple of errors during this morning upate. Warnings, not errors, and they are coming from dpkg. dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/woff/font-awesome': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/woff': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/svg/font-awesome': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/svg': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/eot/font-awesome': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/eot': Directory not empty Should I go in an remove these directories/files...or just leave it alone ? I have deleted the spurious .uuid files and their parent directories as they are cruft, but leaving them in place would not cause harm either. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=897040 Cheers, Sven Seems this bug has been around for quite a while. Thanks -- Frank McCormick
Update errors
Apt flagged a couple of errors during this morning upate. dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/woff/font-awesome': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/woff': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/svg/font-awesome': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/svg': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/eot/font-awesome': Directory not empty dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/usr/share/fonts/eot': Directory not empty Should I go in an remove these directories/files...or just leave it alone ? -- Frank McCormick
HP Device Manager loses network printer on shutdown
Hi! Everytime I start my workstation (DebianEdu 9) I have to re-run setup of the HP Device Manager , because the LaserJet Pro 200 color, connected via network, is lost. The setup routine dousn't need to connect to hp again, as id did at the first installation of the printer. Where do I have to take a look? Any help appreciated. readU Frank
Re: make apt show packages in column
Op 17-05-2020 om 02:39 schreef Ihor Antonov: Hi when installing a package with multiple dependencies apt gives an output: (example: apt install gnome) The following NEW packages will be installed: accountsservice aisleriot apache2-bin apg baobab bluez bluez-obexd bogofilter ogofilter-bdb bogofilter-common bolt brasero-common caribou cheese cheese-common chrome-gnome-shell cracklib-runtime dconf-cli dleyna-server eog evince evince-common evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common evolution-plugin-bogofilter evolution-plugin-pstimport evolution-plugins file-roller five-or-more .. output truncated It is very inconvenient to inspect the list of installed packages in such output. Is it possible to make apt output this in a column? Try the --verbose-versions switch? apt-get --verbose-versions install gnome seems to do what you want (at least it does here). Regards, Frank
Systemd logging stopped (SOLVED)
I have since rebooted to a shutdown and logging is back. I don't know why simple reboots didn't solve the problem but it's solved now. -- Frank McCormick
More info on systemd logging fail
Looking at dmesg I see a bunch of lines like this: Stopping User Runtime Directory /run/user/118... [ 55.241395] systemd[897]: user-runtime-dir@118.service: Failed to connect stdout to the journal socket, ignoring: Connection refused [ 55.249255] systemd[1]: run-user-118.mount: Succeeded. Started Run anacron jobs. [ 2846.911055] systemd[2236]: anacron.service: Failed to connect stdout to the journal socket, ignoring: Connection refused [ 2846.915533] systemd[1]: anacron.service: Succeeded. Those are just two example of "failing to connect stdout to the journal socket" -- Frank McCormick
Re: systemd logging stopped
On 2/4/20 11:30 AM, john doe wrote: On 2/4/2020 4:56 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't find it. I am running Debian Sid fully updated. Can anyone help? https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg2.html HTH. -- John Doe Yes, that's the one. But the message implies everything should happen automatically. In my case all it did was to stop logging. -- Frank McCormick
Re: systemd logging stopped
On 2/4/20 11:31 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 2/4/20 7:56 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't find it. I am running Debian Sid fully updated. I got updated systemd (244.1-2) to 244.1-3 this morning, don't know if it relates... I have not rebooted for a few days Yes so did I, but still lo logging. systemd logs end at midnight last night when I suspended the system. I have rebooted twice since. -- Frank McCormick
systemd logging stopped
Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't find it. I am running Debian Sid fully updated. Can anyone help? -- Frank McCormick
Re: no mouse in midnight commander
On 2/1/20 2:39 PM, Joe wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 13:46:52 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: I noticed this morning that my mouse no longer works in MC. When I use it, it leaves keycodes on mc's command line at the bottom of the screen. Because I use Rox-filer to put icons on the desktop, I call MC from a small script file in $home which loads an xterm, with some parameters to put up a bigger MC on the screen. This is the script at the moment xterm -g 140x40+140+20 -fn 10x20 -e mc -x I am running Debian Sid fully updated. How fully? My mc (in Gnome Terminal) looks OK, but I haven't upgraded today or yesterday, as apt wants to remove 84 packages. There looks to be some kind of logjam involving KDE and/or Qt. Updated as of this morning...I don't run KDE or any QT stuff so I didn't experience that. -- Frank McCormick
no mouse in midnight commander
I noticed this morning that my mouse no longer works in MC. When I use it, it leaves keycodes on mc's command line at the bottom of the screen. Because I use Rox-filer to put icons on the desktop, I call MC from a small script file in $home which loads an xterm, with some parameters to put up a bigger MC on the screen. This is the script at the moment xterm -g 140x40+140+20 -fn 10x20 -e mc -x I am running Debian Sid fully updated. -- Frank McCormick
Re: errors installing new kernal
On 1/6/20 5:10 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2020-01-06 16:28 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: Updating Debian Sid today.. a new kernel was part of the installation..apt spit out a couple of pages of this error: depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' That's a side effect of the recent kmod upload, the new kernel is only involved because an initramfs had to be created for it. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=948257. System seems unaffected. Is this error serious?? No, your system should boot just fine. Cheers, Sven Good news. Thanks -- Frank McCormick
errors installing new kernal
Updating Debian Sid today.. a new kernel was part of the installation..apt spit out a couple of pages of this error: depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' System seems unaffected. Is this error serious?? -- Frank McCormick
Re: external drive
Hi Gene,Gene Heskett: Just for S&G: gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt install exfat Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package exfat has to be ~$ sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils readU Frank
Re: fail2ban for apache2
Sorry Gene. Hit reply instead of reply list. On 11/11/19 12:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 11 November 2019 08:33:13 Greg Wooledge wrote: I have a list of ipv4's I want fail2ban to block. Not sure that fail2ban is the best tool for the job. Where you already have a list of IPs that you want to block why not just directly create the iptables rules? just did that, got most of them but semrush apparently has fallback addys to use. But I'm no longer being DDOSed, which was the point. Thanks. In case it wasn't already clear, what fail2ban does is parse a log file looking for repeated instances of an invalid login (or whatever). You have to tell it what to look for, and what to do about it. coyote.coyote.den:80 40.94.105.9 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:08:53 -0500] "GET /gene/ HTTP/1.1" 200 5141 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/57.0.2987.133 Safari/537.36" coyote.coyote.den:80 40.94.105.9 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:08:53 -0500] "GET /gene/pix/EasterSundayCropped2004-1.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 194478 "http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/57.0.2987.133 Safari/537.36" coyote.coyote.den:80 40.94.105.9 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:08:56 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 1705 "http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/57.0.2987.133 Safari/537.36" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:10:52 -0500] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 1092 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:10:53 -0500] "GET /gene/nitros9/level1/d64/modules/sysgo_h0 HTTP/1.1" 200 706 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:10:58 -0500] "GET /gene/nitros9/level1/coco2b/NOS9_6809_L1_coco2b_cocosdc.dsk HTTP/1.1" 200 4718822 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:11:21 -0500] "GET /gene/nitros9/level1/coco2_6309/NOS9_6309_L1_coco2_6309_dw_directmodempak.dsk HTTP/1.1" 200 554724 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:11:29 -0500] "GET /gene/nitros9/level1/dalpha/modules/defsfile HTTP/1.1" 200 248 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:11:34 -0500] "GET /gene/nitros9/level1/atari/modules/n1_scdwv.dd HTTP/1.1" 200 280 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" coyote.coyote.den:80 203.133.169.54 - - [11/Nov/2019:12:11:39 -0500] "GET /gene/nitros9/level1/coco1_6309/bootfiles/bootfile_covga_cocosdc HTTP/1.1" 200 16133 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Daum/4.1; +http://cs.daum.net/faq/15/4118.html?faqId=28966)" I did ask earlier if daum was a bot but no one answered. They are becoming a mite pesky. Here's your answer: https://www.distilnetworks.com/bot-directory/bot/daum-4-1/ Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Frank McCormick
Hiding apps
I am running Debian Sid with Mate. I would like to run tzclock at startup, but it appears in the taskbar as a regular program. Is there a way to hide it from the taskbar ? -- Frank McCormick
Re: OT Linux on Android mailing / discussion lists
Have a look at > https://lineageos.org/ they support many devices and often have an Android version the manufacturor dosn't support. So maybe you get Android 5 or higher. readU Frank Paul Sutton: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi All Thanks for all the responses for this, I have looked at Termux and this seems to be for Android 5 or higher and the device is on 4.x so I will look at the other options. Thanks again Paul Hi As I am aware this is off topic, (unless we can install Debian)are there any recommended mailing lists / forums for installing Linux on Android tablets please? Asking here as I may get a useful answer to signpost me to somewhere useful. We have an old Storage Options scroll Excel II tablet which we would like to see if we can install Linux on to. I will ask on the specific mailing list, however this device does have a chipset boxchip a10 (ARM) processor so it may be possible to install debian on. thanks for any help Paul - -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893 1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - https://www.enigmail.net/ iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEfW22gvNRjQgYkx4W8IZVN9BmMC0FAl2p4BMACgkQ8IZVN9Bm MC0JNw//R3AfQABC1Svf6OwNYG9ZlYdKINKZ7Rm6jeHNcuPkL8u817V8n3baEC7C ubb6IECkqbfj8pmEd6Jk+fhAQZVJ9mXdx7DwORwM2Mu11xtw7yIdRzIFm1ciXE8D s9FpSnLjS+tvWA3+XN/m8fWagRR3utYGAbw8tshRJBfUyri+YCyUp50m4rVCAhBn 1fxBHSTjARXovTuu9N7KwD7TuHZDkoZ785XYzi0JZ4gc0jk6LY8KHiMRY0fnhMm2 fOxgXR752fgRkbXCP3DKEEeGJVc6MvyrRDcBhdXWpgCzvdyjKKEaj/NDMh5p2ndX gFHw3uITyNToPLTrUCDvK/ertnmuS4Q1rfzC3/7gUdkDLhvBsXd9EJqBdQsNn71z Pjy0cXxrYOlZyG6jrKXgXOB05DaydINrdBwKq3QTqTpIG0MUdRnqq3lg8S6KoMJ1 Jmh7F9SS+jS/wOYftU0AtqwPgfpkxqPyNXpCHjHTotKdPX3zDL4iQ34C/6W+7avI wz235vprNf6nnR0phrkI6F9D150E8HIIZBGm5/9odM7zbVh5tdooZak5SQshx3Eq v27vI2TDp32pMIkvq00bSrmX3Z6GcYCtPYjoNBBM4o4xFEDpuzhKFhuGenhp35Bp nG65unaoqFBahypXS+KKoYPTRbZwQGeg0awqQ0PhWyTNJpT2JgQ= =aLQ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mate desktop delay
On 10/14/19 11:19 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 10/14/19 11:13 AM, songbird wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: ... I find it strange the random bug does not delay boot time in my case, but apparently does delay the appearance of the desktop after GDM. i'm running MATE from testing with lightdm, and haven't experienced this problem ever. i have had a few boot and shutdown delays by something hanging, but it wasn't the desktop (and that hasn't happened for some time now). songbird After taking a closer look at the systemd journal I found this line which seems to be the culprit. gnome-keyring-daemon[31822]: couldn't set environment variable in session: Timeout was reached The delay is 10 to 15 seconds..which matches more or less the time stamps before and after. Does anybody have a clue which this is about ? It's a semi-known bug in the gnome-keyring. #941675 . Don't know what's being done about it. -- Frank McCormick
Re: Mate desktop delay
On 10/14/19 11:13 AM, songbird wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: ... I find it strange the random bug does not delay boot time in my case, but apparently does delay the appearance of the desktop after GDM. i'm running MATE from testing with lightdm, and haven't experienced this problem ever. i have had a few boot and shutdown delays by something hanging, but it wasn't the desktop (and that hasn't happened for some time now). songbird After taking a closer look at the systemd journal I found this line which seems to be the culprit. gnome-keyring-daemon[31822]: couldn't set environment variable in session: Timeout was reached The delay is 10 to 15 seconds..which matches more or less the time stamps before and after. Does anybody have a clue which this is about ? -- Frank McCormick