Re: permissions and fstab
Carel Fellinger wrote: Or look through /etc/passwd. $ grep carel /etc/passwd carel:x:1001:1001:Carel Fellinger,,,:/home/carel:/bin/bash Or for variety (and a saving of milliseconds) do it this way: $ getent passwd jbr jbr:x:1013:1013:Justin B Rye,,,:/home/jbr:/bin/bash I love these obscure utilities - that one comes with libc6. -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32
Mike Fedyk wrote: [...] I'm going to keep my search to a text based email client, because I don't like to have to use vnc to view my email from home... Mutt is great in an Xterm, and picture viewing is good too. I wonder if mutt can use links or netscape for html viewing... Anyone know? It's probably in the config file, or some symlinked html-viewer in a bin dir... Looked in /etc/alternatives, but no browser or www grep results... I missed this first time round - the answer I use (on a solidly potato system) is urlview (from the package of the same name) to launch a browser out of mutt - there's even a control-b macro ready and waiting for it. Then the browser I have urlview configured to use is w3m, which may be a humble non-graphical browser, but it can in turn be configured to hand URLs over to other browsers - the three I have it use are tab=netscape, 2tab=mozilla, and 3tab=xterm -e w3m . -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: visudo not vi?
Aaron Lehmann wrote: Using a non-vi-compatable editor on boot disks is a hanging offense that debian will pay for once sysadmins try to install Debian but realize they have better things to do than learn a whimpy editor. It would be excusable if it was emacs-compatable, but it's not. e3 supports vi, emacs, wordstar, AND pico bindings. It just depends whether you type vi, emacs, or pico to start it. Personally I would perfer ed to nano, since it is traditional and more people know how to use it. The great Vi/Emacs Wars are irrelevant to this issue: the people encountering ae for the first time aren't looking for a crash course in your favourite coding utility, they need an instantly usable text editor, and one that's perfectly accessible to newbies who have never seen anything better than Wordpad. Nano-tiny scores highly on this count, since it is a functional bonsai-scale editor any fool can pick up on their first encounter - no learning is necessary (or worthwhile, unless they're going to be keeping it as the only editor on the system). But ae will do. Just about. -- Justin B Rye - writing (in jed) from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: event viewer application
Wesley Jay Deypalan wrote: im just new to linux, i would like to if debian linux has a program similar to windows nt event viewer. i have seen that program in corel linux but i heard corel linux is mostly for desktop only, we would like it to be server. your help is greatly appreciated. ktb wrote: I've never seen event viewer but did a quick look on the web and it looks like a logging tool. If that is the case, yes debian has syslog. sysklogd is the actual daemon that runs. Type man sysklogd into your favorite search engine and you should come up with enough info to give you a basic idea. If I were you I would install debian without any graphical interface and start playing with it, until you become familiar enough to administer it. To cover a few basics, the logfiles mostly live in /var/log, and are rotated into gzipped archives on (usually) a daily basis, with a week's worth around at any point. When something goes wrong, the debugging process almost always starts with ls -lrt /var/log/ and tail -f /var/log/whateverlog (you can read them without being root if you're in the adm group). I don't know of any good GUI logfile-readers, but anyway I wouldn't swap one for what I have got - the package logcheck, which monitors the logs for anomalies and mails me regular edited highlights. -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: adding user to dip group doesn't work
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: When you add a user to a group, they must log off of the system completely and log back in before the changes take affect. You just need a fresh login - a new xterm won't do it, but su-ing to yourself will. Run 'groups' as the user to ensure they are actually in the right groups. Or id; and there's members (in its own package) to tell you who's in a given group. -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: Newbie upgrading question
Harrie ter Rele wrote: I'm working on a debian 2.0.38 system. You mean the kernel is Linux 2.0.38; the Debian GNU/Linux distribution has its own version numbering, which is independent of the kernel version (though the numbers happen to be similar). With a kernel that old I'd guess it's Debian 2.0, known as slink; the current version is 2.2(r2), known as potato. You can check by looking in /etc/debian_version. Now i have to upgrade samba (to 2.0.7). I need to upgrade some other product(s) also. Well, I don't know your circumstances but I'd recommend upgrading to 2.2(r2) - which includes Samba 2.0.7. And as a separate step, switching to a more recent kernel. Can i upgrade from libc5 to libc6 without many problems using dpkg or do i have to do this another way (how ?) You'd cause yourself some problems going from slink to potato using just dpkg - do you know about dselect? -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: crontab ?
Timo wrote: why my crontab not / works like crontab -e 00 21 * * * /sbin/ifdown eth0 works fine You mean you run crontab -e, and then when it starts its editor (vi by default) you enter 00 21 * * * /sbin/ifdown eth0 then save it? Yes, that should work. But why do you want this to be in your own crontab, not /etc/crontab (or as /etc/cron.d/eth0down)? But when I try start with file crontab Eth0Dwn starts job, but nothing else happend. This is a strange way to want to set a crontab... man crontab seems to say it'll work, but the file might need to be executable or something. Eth0Dwn 00 21 * * * /sbin/ifdown eth0 I presume you mean that the file Eth0Dwn contains that line. What do you see when you crontab -l? Why do you want to do this anyway? Isn't it simpler to edit the crontab directly with crontab -e? -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: crontab ?
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 01:56:02PM +, Justin B Rye wrote: This is a strange way to want to set a crontab... Dave Sherohman wrote: Actually, considering that it's how crontab expects to work if no flags are given, I suspect that `crontab filename` is the most historically standard/ normal way to use it. Doh, yes - just like ln is normally used for creating hard links! Why do you want to do this anyway? Isn't it simpler to edit the crontab directly with crontab -e? Don't know if it's why the OP was doing it this way but potato's elvis returns an exit status of 1 even if it exits cleanly. crontab sees this, assumes an error, and doesn't update anything. So, if elvis is your default editor, `crontab -e` doesn't work. (This has been fixed in woody.) Wasn't the problem that crontab -e did work and crontab file didn't? (If it *is* an editor problem, the solution is of course to start with export EDITOR=emacs - or nano, or whatever - though if you can write working crontabs, odds are you'll probably know this.) -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: crontab ?
Timo wrote: Yes, you are rigth, it´s not good reason to use that file. (but test) And (crontab -e) uses vi editor. crontab -l looks: # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (Eth0Dwn installed on Mon Jan 29 17:07:59 2001) # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $) 00 21 * * * /sbin/ifdown eth0 That's odd, actually - I'd expect to see that from sudo cat /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username but crontab -l normally filters all that header material. Is it possible you've ended up with duplicate headers? Compare the DEBIAN SPECIFIC section in man crontab. -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: jpeg bad bitmap format file (was: xsetroot -bitmap)
Xucaen wrote: Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somewhere else instead of one you made with gimp ?? Speaking of gimp, how are you telling it what format to use ?? I think you have to tell gimp to use jpg or bmp format ... just naming it that way *may* not do it. correct. I tell it specifically which format to save as. I have saved as jpeg and as bmp ah well.. at least I can play around with xpmroot now. You might also want to test that it really has saved it as that format, not just with the extension .bmp - you can check this quickly and easily with file: $ file foo.bmp foo.bmp:PC bitmap data, Windows 3.x format, 256 x 256 x 24 But they're right, don't use .bmp! -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: .Xdefaults problem
Torben Korte wrote: in the ~/.Xdefaults file i have put some thinks for xemacs but the file isn't read on startup? Did I get the wrong file or the wrong place for the file? Thanks ~/.Xresources -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: SSH
Joris Lambrecht wrote: Only SSH 1 is OPEN. From what i recall SSH2 and following are licensed (payware) Jason Holland wrote: incorrect. openssh is NOT licensed at all. it includes ssh v1, ssh v2 and sftp-server. What you're trying to say is that it isn't *restrictively* licensed. (If a piece of software isn't licensed at all - if, say, there turns out to be a crippling flaw in its legal verbiage - that doesn't mean anybody can rip it off without comeback; it means that nobody is entitled to use it. I know what you mean; but it's a point worth keeping clear.) -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: [OT] two domains and one ip / apache [ css weirdness ]
Joris Lambrecht wrote: Whenever i published these pages i noticed that the css was no longer functional. Hence my question, what's up with apache ? Apache can serve stylesheets out of the box, as long as the html+css syntax and paths+permissions are right, so I doubt that's the problem. PS : Below is the error.log content when it loads the site, to bad i feel rather sure this has nothing to do with the problem. [Tue Jan 16 17:36:29 2001] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Filename is not valid: /:/htdocs/site/./default.htm.meta It's saying that something is pointing at an impossible filename, and if that string's really anything like a URL it's being told to fetch data from I don't blame it. /:/? htdocs? /./? .meta? What's your DocumentRoot, where relative to that are your stylesheets, what are the filenames, and what's the link... line in your html? -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: [OT] two domains and one ip / apache [ css weirdness ]
Joris Lambrecht wrote: this is what i meant by verified to work ... i opened it directly in my browser ... no problem whatsoever Yup, so the html's workable. original : does not work : intranet.css is at root of website (verified 10 times) (Original?) You're sure it's readable (to the webserver)? By the way, does the website really have directories called htdocs/site/ *inside* the DocumentRoot? head LINK REL=StyleSheet TYPE=text/css href=intranet.css /head Looks okay - as long as the html and the stylesheet are in the same directory. Otherwise you need to give a relative path. Or since the css is in root, try href=/intranet.css, or even href=http://servername/intranet.css;. (Oh, if and this is the head of your html, you haven't given it a title.) apache : i've created a scope that runs all files as text/css : intranet.css is in /css (verified 10 times) No idea what you mean by this - apache doesn't need any reconfiguring to serve css. It might even have broken something. head LINK REL=StyleSheet TYPE=text/css href=css/intranet.css /head This one'll work if there's a readable intranet.css in a readable, executable css subdirectory of the html file's location. The text should render als helvetica but the output is times new roman, opening the page without using apache (file - open ...) uses the style sheet What exactly is it you're trusting the reactions of here? Would it happen to be Internet Explorer? -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: (newbie) how can I change the display resolution???
Pietro Cagnoni wrote: 1) make a backup copy of XF86Config, just in case; This can be a riskier step than it sounds - let me share a tale of an obscure gotcha. It goes like this: 1) gather a collection of interesting XF86-related files to study 2) put them in a directory called ~/XF86Config 3) come up with a new idea you want to try out 4) cautiously stash a copy of /etc/X11/XF86Config as XF86Config.bak 5) even more cautiously decide to restart X before editing anything 6) run sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart 7) boggle as X dies with unedifying errors Turns out, the reason it was dying was that it was choking on an invalid XF86Config. No, not the pristine /etc/X11 copy - *first* it checks ~/, and since I didn't say sudo -H, it was trying to use the directory /home/jbr/XF86Config as its configfile! I don't know if passing that on will save anyone from an unnecessary panic, but at least people here might find it funny. -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: [OT] See you next year...
will trillich wrote: On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 11:36:16PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:50:47PM +, sena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'll be going in a new-year vacations until 3 January. As someone suggested in another thread, I'll be using procmail to redirect debian mailing lists to /dev/null... I hope it works... Make sure to check the latest 2.4.0 pre kernels for the /dev/null patch to prevent a /dev/null overflow, particularly with the Debian lists. If the machine's going to be up over this weekend, /dev/random might be more of a problem since /etc/cron.millennial/standard will be introducing extra chaos into the system. The best fix is to install anarcron, which runs cronjobs at random intervals. i was wondering about that. my /dev/zero and /dev/null have been growing above their usual restrictions lately -- but i'm still on potato (2.2.17). who's responsible for this anomaly? Well, who's got root on your machine? ;-) -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd grep gullible /usr/share/dict/words
Re: mutt question...
Olivier Billet wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:41:07PM +, Ricardo Rodrigues Morais Diz wrote: How can I put in my ~/.muttrc file an option so that whenever I start mutt all threads are collapsed? Maybe you can add this line: folder-hook . 'push \eV' These days mutt allows you to reference things by function-name, which is more robust if like me you've been messing about with all the key-bindings, and clearer even if not: folder-hook . 'push collapse-all' Works for me... -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: to install or not to install
QBA wrote: [...] And there is also a second reason to install tarballs - some cool programs are available only in this format (e.g. w3mir). And here's my question: is it a bad idea to install tarballz on Debian? Thanks for help, [...] Wait! If you're looking for WWW-wo-Miru, the .deb is called w3m, so you needn't resort to tarballs for that one. See http://packages.debian.org/stable/text/w3m.html;. -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
slaying the inodosaur
I've got a machine that until recently used a ludicrously inode-hungry tree structure containing half a million files where it should have had (and now has) a database. Now I want to delete the leftover files, but it occurs to me that I may be risking some sort of IO catastrophe. Is a niced rm -rf as safe as I'm going to get, or is it worth messing about with while sleep 1 do stopafter...? -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
Re: scp from stdin
Carel Fellinger wrote: On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 04:10:17PM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote: Is there a way to pipe input to a file on a remote host via scp? i.e. tar cz ~user | scp ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:outfile.tgz I think not directly, but you could try: $ tar cz ~user | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'umask 077 cat outfile.tgz' ofcourse umask is futile if the file allready exists:( Well, try tempfile: $ tar cz ~user | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ 'umask 077 OUT=$(tempfile -d ~/ -p out -s .tgz) cat $OUT' -- Justin B Rye - writing from but not for Datacash Ltd
