Re: OT: list-etiquette and cross-posting
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 02:29:21PM +, Josh Robinson wrote: to me, at least, these seem mutually incompatible. indeed, can anyone explain why cross-posting is such a bad idea? it's all very well to describe it as 'clueless and rude', but i've not managed to find a FAQ that explains why it's a bad idea, other than 'it's against netiquette'. and if there could conceivably be a good reason for 'a across two lists' then would there not be a good reason for cross-posting? They are not mutually exclusive, they should be used spare and wisely. Atleast they are discouraged unless you know what youre doing. An example where this might make sense is when you CC: various Mailinglists with an important FYI-Mail; you will then be able to bundle the discussions on one Mailinglist, thus setting an Reply-To: to a specific Mailinglist. This heavily breaks when the Mailinglist(s) do(es) Header-munching. ## Please don't cc me: i'm subscribed Make use of Mail-Followup-To: then. -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has anyone ever thought of getting the reply-to changed?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 08:49:06AM -0800, Dale Welch wrote: I email lists for the purpose of having the response on the list. Please leave that up to the Sender and Replier. They are human, they may decide what is appropriate. Some stupid[1] piece of software is not able to detect that unless it has a CBI[2] 1) 'stupid' in the sense of 'not intelligent', not 'piece of crap'. 2) crystal-ball interface -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has anyone ever thought of getting the reply-to changed?
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 05:58:59PM +, Joseph Jones wrote: It really bugs me. I know this may seem unnecessary to some people, but it wouldn't require much. All the other mailing lists I'm on set the reply-to to the address of the mailing list, apart from this list. try google: 'reply-to harmful' have fun, -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has anyone ever thought of getting the reply-to changed?
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 06:18:29PM +, Joseph Jones wrote: Hopefully someone'll make an extension for Thunderbird to handle it. Whilst rereading the document once again, i noticed that for example mutt has three functionalities: - (r)eply - reply to reply-to or author - (l)ist reply - reply to list only - (g)roup reply - reply to list and author. Theres also currently quite some people who use the Mail-Followup-To: Header to tell other Listposters wether they favor 'g' or 'l' for replies on their mails on lists. Now iam pondering if youre trying to say that Thunderbird really has the 'r'eply functionality only. I wouldnt believe that. Another interesting note: current list-software adds various headers per RFC-icantrememberrightnow: | List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org | List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Subscribe: |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Unsubscribe: |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Archive: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ This eases MUAs to even add functionality of '(Un)Subscribe' or 'List-Reply' Buttons. If your MUA does indeed not support it (did you read the fine manual? ;-), bug the authors to add that kind of support. I hope my description of this system isnt too complex, -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysql 4 using backports
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 11:54:42AM +, cyril wrote: I have added deb http://uk.www.backports.org/debian stable mysql-dfsg to sources.list If I now run 'apt-cache search mysql' I get W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.backports.org stable/mysql-dfsg Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/uk.www.backports.org_debian_dists_stable_mysql-dfsg_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Did you run 'apt-get update'? (This retrieves the Packages.gz File from the Server, so apt knows what version of what packages are on the apt-repository) -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysql 4 using backports
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 12:05:17PM +, cyril wrote: I think I probably didn't after I added the line :) what is the easiest way to upgrade to mysql 4 now using apt? Probably 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. If you add the '-u' Paramter to 'apt-get' you will be shown a list of Packages which will be upgraded. If that doesnt work out, you may check with 'apt-cache policy packagename' wether the Priority of the package is high enough to get installed. If you have troubles, please post what you did, what it tried to do and an excerpt of 'apt-cache policy' of the relevant packages. -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache 2
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 03:53:45PM +0100, Thomas Carrié wrote: I've found apache2 in http://backports.org, unlikely this deb package doesn't have the axps2 command, so I want to compile apache2 from source debian package with option --enable-so. apxs2 is contained in the -dev packages, not in the normal packages. apache2-prefork-dev_2.0.48-3.backports.org.1_all.deb apache2-threaded-dev_2.0.48-3.backports.org.1_all.deb auto-apt and apt-file are your friends here. -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache 2
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:03:20PM +, Colin Watson wrote: (Also, I'm not sure that backports.org existed when I originally created subversion-woody.) btw, subversion is also on the bpo repository. -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eth0 link mode 10/100Mbps, Half-/Fullduplex ?!
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 07:15:49AM +, Daniel Marquez-Klaka wrote: Wie kann ich sehen mit welchem linkspeed (10/100 Half/Full) mein eth0 arbeitet ? Ich geh davon aus das per default der link mode automatisch festgestellt wird. Wie kann ich aber manuel festlegen in welchem mode er betrieben werden soll ? mii-tool(8) -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 01:51:20PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: [...], but anything which reduces the rhetorical strength of the terrorists and eurosnobs is probably useful. YMMD. -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: du -sh backports mirrors?, was: Debian newbie: question on apt-get and sources.list
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 11:35:26AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..mirroring all of backports.org/debian/ , how much disk space do I need? A 'du -k' on the HTML Directory of bpo shows that it is using about 2.2 GB. Such Questions shouldnt be directed to mailinglists, though. You might have a faster response if you'd ask on the specific Mailinglist or the Maintainer of bpo. That would probably reduce the unbeloved noise on this list a bit, too. :) -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: du -sh backports mirrors?, was: Debian newbie: question on apt-get and sources.list
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 11:35:26AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: #deb http://www.backports.org/debian woody xfree86 Oh. Norbert just pointed out that this Line must actually read: deb http://www.backports.org/debian woody pre/xfree86 -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: du -sh backports mirrors?, was: Debian newbie: question on apt-get and sources.list
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 09:35:17PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Such Questions shouldnt be directed to mailinglists, though. You might have a faster response if you'd ask on the specific Mailinglist ..which specific Mailinglist??? http://www.backports.org tells ya. :) (You might use http://lists.backports.org as shortcut :-P) -- Rico -mc- Gloeckner | 1024D/61F05B8C | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ukeer.de |RICO-RIPE | sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == mv ~/.signature http://www.ukeer.de/signature.html == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: parport troubles
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 08:26:33AM +0200, Rico -mc- Gloeckner wrote: Maybe someone can shed some light. That reminds me that i should have atleast given two more details: - kernel is a vanilla 2.4.21 - hardware is an acer notebook (cant give the model no right now) -- | Rico -mc- Gloeckner | mv ~/.signature `finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | gpg/mail: 3D67 D42F 2D50 4B68 1D62 E999 EFCB CDFF 61F0 5B8C | | gpg/jabber: 7A1C D378 CAB7 C545 5E5D CC44 C44F 9657 3D9C 8389 | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound possible on Epox 8kha+ motherboard?
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 02:36:50PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Regarding sound on debian, indeed, I followed Colin Keefe's advice http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030107020013$64eb%40gated-at.bofh.itrnum=6 with initial success after reboot (using snd-via8233 instead of snd-via82xx) with stock kernel 2.4.18-k7 ! Ahhh! Now that bulb appears over my Head :-) There were two Changes in Alsa which affected what i told you in my private Post: 1) Old Versions of ALSA had multiple drivers for VT82xx, one for every single Chipsets. Latest Versions have these Drivers merged into vt82xx. (as i told you already :) 2) Old Versions of ALSA use snd-driver as Module Name, later Versions omit the leading snd- The Difference between your Installation and mine is, that you use precompiled Modules and i compiled my Alsa Modules myself, that might be a bit confusing sometimes. Sorry, forgot about that, but just remembered i read it somewhen. So, what means initial success? Does it work now or doesnt it? In latter Case, are there any Errormessages you get, either on Console or in Logs? -- | Rico -mc- Gloeckner | mv ~/.signature `finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]` -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chat servers
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 08:52:30PM -0600, Jacob S. wrote: Thanks to all for all the suggestions. Does anyone know of a client or server implementation for irc or jabber that could be embedded into an html webpage, thus allowing users to login and chat w/o having to install additional software? I'm not currently aware of any, which is the reason I was looking at something along the lines of what For IRC there are two ways to embed Chat into a Homepage. Which one you use depends on three Factors: - Your Users are behind Firewalls: Yes/No - You run your own IRC Server: Yes/No - The Box which runs the HTML-embedded Client is weak: Yes/No The First one, preferred if your Users do NOT run behind Firewalls, you have to use use foreign IRC Servers and if your Webserver is weak is Javachat; the User downloads a small Applet and connects directly to the IRC Server. He shows up on IRC with his own IP. The Second one, preferred if your User DO run behind Firewalls, You use your own administered IRC Server and your Webserver is NOT weak is something like CGI::IRC. That means, the User connects to a CGI, which connects to the IRC Server. The User appears on IRC with the IP of your Webserver. Drawback to this is that most IRC Networks forbid more then a certain amount of connections from one IP, so you had to ask Admins of that Server to raise that Limits. For both Solutions there should be a certain Amount of Programs already visible on Freshmeat. hth, -mc -- | Rico -mc- Gloeckner | mv ~/.signature `finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]` -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound possible on Epox 8kha+ motherboard?
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:40:00PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board? I have 10/10/02 sid cds. I tried everything. I can make the console beep out of the speaker only. Alsaconf doesn't have the card. http://jidanni.org/comp/system.txt is my sorry system. I can use kernel -18 or -19. Would you mind mailing the Output of these two Commands? lspci lspci -n regards, -- | Rico -mc- Gloeckner | mv ~/.signature `finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]` -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:37:06PM -0500, Michael Jinks wrote:
I recognize that xset is a security hole, but is there some way to turn
that functionality back on? Or, what's the right way to do what I
want, using xauth or whatever?
# vi /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc
I assume you find the Solution yourself, then :-)
-mc
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Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Elizabeth Barham wrote:
[...] Netscape/iPlanet has a server and to the best of my
knowledge, it impliments all or some of these standards.
http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/calendar.html
Ignoring the Fact, that i cant reach the site, it seems that iPlanet
doesnt continue developing the Netscape Calendar.
We try to find for over an Year updated Clients, since the Linux Client
from Netscape uses libc5 (some of the linked .so's arent even in the
compat libc anymore) and crashes regulary. I ripped the Calendar Client
off an old Netscape and re-packaged it for internal use.
Maybe you can help finding new Versions? i'd really appreciate it...
-mc
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Re: apt/dpkg + /var/lib/dpkg/status problems
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:16:15AM +0100, Ben White wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/ben# apt-get install foo
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
Do You have enough Memory (RAM, Swap)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/ben# apt-cache search foo
Segmentation fault
I'd strongly consider faulty RAM.
(I have that with an old P200 of mine. Its about exactly every 21 Days
when apt-get starts segfaulting. After a reboot everything is working fine
again - faulty RAM, obviously.)
-rg
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