Sym.-Links aus Samba-Server bei Linux-Client
Hallo, ich habe hier in meinem Heimnetzwerk einen Server stehen, der mittels Debian und Samba seine Daten (alle wichtigen) zur Verfuegung stellt. Dazu habe ich den Ordner /var/samba/write mit Schreibzugriff freigegeben, und symbolische Links auf meine Partitionen darin platziert. Wenn ich mit einem Windows-XP-Client darauf zugreife, werden die Links wunderbar verarbeitet -- es wird das geoeffnet, was ich auch geoeffnet haben will, also nicht 'der Link heruntergeladen'. In der smb.conf habe ich sowohl 'follow symlinks' als auch 'wide links' auf yes, obgleich das laut manpage ohnehin der Default-Wert waere. Wenn ich aber nun mit meinem Debian auf die gleiche Samba-Freigabe zugreifen will, wird mir staendig mitgeteilt, dass dieser Ordner bzw. diese Datei nicht mehr existiere, was mich zu der Vermutung bringt, das zB der (serverseitige) sym. Link /var/samba/write/hde3 - /mnt/hde3 auf dem Client ebenfalls als - /mnt/hde3 interpretiert wird -- eine Partition bzw. Festplatte, die auf dem Client keineswegs existiert. Hat jemand Anhaltspunkte fuer mich, was ich da falsch gemacht haben koennte? Mir ist klar, dass eigentlich bei Linux-Netzwerken NFS empfehlenswerter waere, aber da der Sambaserver aufgrund von Windows-Clients ohnehin laufen muss, erscheint es mir redundanter, dies zu unterlassen. Mit Dank im Voraus, Simon PS: Bitte bei Antworten mich als CC-Empfaenger angeben. pgp50q4kyLPYP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Fragen zum BTS, den Mailinglisten und Verhalten auf beiden
Hallo, ich habe nun erstmals auch selber Bugs am BTS vermeldet, und beabsichtige, dies ebenso weiterhin zu tun wie mich bei diversen Debian-Mailinglisten zu beteiligen. Einige Fragen konnten von der Debian-eigenen Dokumentation aber fuer mich leider noch nicht geklaert werden. - Beim Durchschauen diverser Bugberichte, die mitunter schon vor einem Jahr oder noch frueher versendet wurden, draengte sich mir unweigerlich zig mal die Frage auf: Ist das nicht ohnehin schon in einer neuen Version beseitigt? Wird es als unhoeflich oder unangemessen erachtet, wenn ich oefters mit 'Hat es ein Upgrade auf Version x.y behoben?' antworte? - Damit einhergehend ist auch die Frage, ob eine Person, die nicht der jeweilige Paket-Betreuer ist, einen Bug 'closen' kann (mittels Senden von [EMAIL PROTECTED]), oder ob das BTS das unterbindet? V.a. bei Bugs, die eben unter Umstaenden in neueren Versionen behoben sind, wuerde dies mE schon Sinn machen, aber andererseits wuerde das auch unweigerlich in die Kompetenzen des Betreuers eingreifen. - Wie kann ich mit meinem Mail-Programm auf Threads in den Mailinglisten antworten, ohne dass ich eingetragen bin und somit die anderen Mails erhalten habe? Ich denke mal, die Einteilung in Threads erfolgt mittels des 'In-Reply-To'-Teils des Mail-Headers. Gibt es eine Moeglichkeit, diesen mit dem Mail-Programm manuell zu modifizieren (ich verwende Sylpheed), und wenn ja, wie muss der Header aussehen? Oder gibt es eine andere Moeglichkeit? Vielen Dank im Voraus fuer eventuelle Antworten oder Hinweise, wo ich sonst noch Informationen ueber meine Fragen haette finden muessen. Ciao, Simon pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Exim and SMTP on an internet gateway
Hi David, If you want to carry on using MS Exchange as your MTA, why not just use port forwarding? Friday, November 1, 2002, 6:03:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DK I've been reading some docs and googled for answers, but still need help DK setting up exim (or another MTA, suggestions?) on our internet gateway. DK SHORT VERSION DK I want exim to accept inbound SMTP for our domain from the internet, and DK forward it to our internal mail server. DK I want exim to accept outgoing SMTP from our domain, and forward it to the DK ISP smarthost. DK Later I want to plug anti-virus and anti-spam tools into exim, to prevent DK unwanted emails from being sent or received. That is a question for another DK day, though. DK TECHNICAL DETAILS DK We have a simple local network, in the 10.0.0.0/24 address range that is DK standard for Microsoft Small Business Server networks. DK The server (server2.ourdomain.no) at 10.0.0.2 is running MS Exchange, which DK is our main mailserver. DK The gateway (gator.ourdomain.no, running Debian/stable) at 10.0.0.1 is DK running iptables and masquerading, as well as some proxies. The second NIC DK has a permanent, public IP and is connected to the DSL-router that provides DK our internet connection. DK All outgoing mail is sent via the smarthost provided by our ISP. DK It seems easy enough to make exim accept all mail for ourdomain and forward DK outgoing mail to the ISP smarthost. However, local delivery of mail to DK ourdomain is not what I need ... I want _that_ mail forwarded 10.0.0.2. DK Surely, this must be a common situation? Could someone please help me DK configure exim to do this, or point me at the right docs. Unfortunately, DK the docs at www.exim.org didn't mention this scenario. I'm sure that I DK could do this if I fully understood the exim docs, but alas - I have not DK fully digested them yet. DK Thanks a lot, DK David Knudsen DK -- DK David Knudsen, aka Dansken on #vgaplanets/EFnet -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ ICQ: 81183862 OpenPGP Public Key: mailto:smartin;milliways.cl?subject=public_key During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly. Sig by Kookie Jar 6.1.7 (http://go.to/generalfrenetics/) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO
Hi Stephan, No offence taken, with your mails, and don't get me wrong I quite like GUI interfaces for some jobs, command line for others. I just pick the tool I prefer for the job at hand. As far as I am concerned this thread is not about the GUI/OOUI/command line debate, but about the marketing focus, which can do a LOT of harm. If I go to a hardware store and by a drill to put up some shelves at home I have to know how to use a drill, what kind of wall I am going to be drilling, the type of rawl plugs I will use, etc. It is actually quite a complicated business, and the thing is most of us accept this as normal. Why make using a computer different. To be alble to write with pen and paper I had to learn about ink, hand position, types of paper (don't use a biro on bond because it smears easily, etc.), all things that have nothing to do with the actual activity of writing a letter, just the mechanics of writing a letter. Today I rarely use pen and ink, I use computer and printer, but does that mean that I don't have to learn the mechanics of my writing materials? Am I born with a mouse attached to my left hand? Is there an instinctive power-on reflex? Do I come into this world knowing that opening seventeen instances of a spreadsheet program on a 486 with 16MB RAM is not a good thing to do? All this is basic computer use skills. I HAVE to learn. If somebody tells me here is your computer it just works what do I expect? If someone says here is your computer, it's fairly simple to use, but you'll have to learn a few things to keep it running smoothly the effect is subtly different. Unix has been famous for cryptic commands and general user unfriendliness it most circles. This is not necessarily good. When the usage message for a command is in excess of 5 pages (tar --help) it makes you wonder. I like an easy life, the same as the rest of us. I also like my challenges, it adds spice to life. If you present someone with a challenge they will usually rise to it (as long as it is within their sphere of competence). So let's make life easier, not more difficult. Let's tell the truth Linux is like Unix. You need to know. We can help you, but your a big boy/girl now, and you have learn how to take care of yourself. Microsoft didn't and takes a bashing from the general users who complain that it doesn't live up to expectation, and it doesn't, you still have to know, despite what Microsoft or others may say. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'I used to be schizophrenic, but now both of us are all right' - Original Message - From: Stephan Hachinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 18 September 1999 21:05 Subject: Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO Hello! Again some criticism about your opinions... Ok, ok, I sit corrected in several respects, but I am still adamant that any attempt to paint Linux as an out of the box solution with no prior knowledge is a real danger to the on-going comercial success of Linux. I worked in tech-support for Xerox for about 7 years (Xerox used to sell Apple Mac, IBM PS/2 and Dell in Latin America), and I would say that at least 70% of the problems we had we with users who not only did not know what they were doing (no problems with that) but who did not WANT to know what they were doing. Microsoft has fixed the image of it's OS as just use and ignore it. Let's not fall into that trap. Fixing the customers expectations is paramount for a successful install. If you fix the expectations as zero cost, zero learning then you are NOT going to have a successful install. I am fairly competent with Debian, but the last time I looked at RedHat, I did not want to do any real config changes until I had read the corresponding man pages and other documents, and these are both Linux based In short. If you use a tool you have to know it. If you want to use a tool well you have to learn how it works. You don't get something for nothing and you definitely don't want to tell your customers to expect the world for nothing. OK, I know what you mean. I've been using Debian for a short time and Windows for a quite long time now, and I worked together with many people on PC projects. I also think in a way that there are two extremes concerning PC users: There are some who want to dive deep into the secrets of the system, and others only want to use it for doing their work. And I (I belong to the first group) realized, whatever I worked on, that the second group of users also got very good results out of their work. Let's look on what the computer was invented for: Scientific calculations. But people had to have very good knowledge and time to use it. And what
Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO
Ok, ok, I sit corrected in several respects, but I am still adamant that any attempt to paint Linux as an out of the box solution with no prior knowledge is a real danger to the on-going comercial success of Linux. I worked in tech-support for Xerox for about 7 years (Xerox used to sell Apple Mac, IBM PS/2 and Dell in Latin America), and I would say that at least 70% of the problems we had we with users who not only did not know what they were doing (no problems with that) but who did not WANT to know what they were doing. Microsoft has fixed the image of it's OS as just use and ignore it. Let's not fall into that trap. Fixing the customers expectations is paramount for a successful install. If you fix the expectations as zero cost, zero learning then you are NOT going to have a successful install. I am fairly competent with Debian, but the last time I looked at RedHat, I did not want to do any real config changes until I had read the corresponding man pages and other documents, and these are both Linux based In short. If you use a tool you have to know it. If you want to use a tool well you have to learn how it works. You don't get something for nothing and you definitely don't want to tell your customers to expect the world for nothing. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'I used to be schizophrenic, but now both of us are all right'
Re: X Configuration
Thanks Martyn et al. Creating the mem device worked. I now have X up and running. The next thing is to get this geometry thing right... __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'I used to be schizophrenic, but now both of us are all right' - Original Message - From: Martyn Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 1999 15:38 Subject: Fw: X Configuration Simon Martin writes: | Hi I sent this message a couple of days ago with no answer. It seems | like I have a problem with no /dev/mem device. MAKEDEV doesn't know | this device so can anyone tell me what the major/minor node numbers | are for this device (ls -l /dev/mem should do, unless it is dependant | on the memory configuration, etc.) I didn't see the question; and can't comment on the implications of no /dev/mem... (might be a kernel-generated pseudo device). But his the info. for which you asked... [martyn]$ ls -l /dev/mem crw-rw 1 root kmem 1, 1 Mar 2 1999 /dev/mem Mx.
Re: hi i got a question
Hi Jerry First you configure the link, using say pppconfig, then you must bring up the link. For example you can try pppd call my_isp (supposing my_isp is the profile defined in pppconfig). Once you have this working, you can then try setting up auto-connection (see the demand option of pppd and/or the diald daemon). __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 16 September 1999 11:57 Subject: Re: hi i got a question To: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Re: hi i got a question From: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: 13 Sep 1999 21:51:01 -0500 Jerry Smith writes: I use Debian Linux, and have tried pppconfig, pppsetup, and diald. Pppconfig and pppsetup i had no luck with, What do you mean when you say you had no luck with pppconfig? Exactly what did you do and exactly what happened? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI I ran pppconfig, pppsetup, and others and tryed to use all of them. They all didn't give me any errors but i tryed to bitchx to a server and it woulden't because it said it wasn't connected to the internet. Is there a way to fix this? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Fw: X Configuration
Hi I sent this message a couple of days ago with no answer. It seems like I
have a problem with no /dev/mem device. MAKEDEV doesn't
know this device so can anyone tell me what the major/minor node numbers are
for this device (ls -l /dev/mem should do, unless it is
dependant on the memory configuration, etc.)
RSVP
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- Original Message -
From: Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: David Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: 14 September 1999 09:39
Subject: Re: X Configuration
startx 2 error.log did not actually put anything into error.log, it must be
writing to stderr. Anyway running it off of a telnet
connection I get the following:
===
gandalf {~} # startx 2
XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: July 15 1998
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.36 i686 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
VGA2: server for monochrome VGA (Patchlevel 0):
ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c,
ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c,
ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10,
wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202,
sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl,
tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi,
tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660,
tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388,
cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422,
clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436,
clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215,
clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555,
ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, cl6410, cl6412,
cl6420, cl6440, generic
MONO: server for interlaced and banked monochrome graphics adaptors
(Patchlevel 0):
hgc1280, sigmalview, apollo9, hercules
(using VT number 7)
XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: disabled
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: MouseMan, device: /dev/ttyS1, baudrate: 1200
(**) Mouse: buttons: 3, Chorded middle button
(**) VGA2: Graphics device ID: Generic VGA compatible
(**) VGA2: Monitor ID: My Monitor
(--) VGA2: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 35.52 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 640x400 needs hsync freq of 37.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 640x480 needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 640x480 needs hsync freq of 37.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 640x400 needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 640x480 needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 800x600 needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(--) VGA2: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted
Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, so this is my 2 cents worth. GUI utilities are ok, command line utilities are ok, simple dialogs are ok, this is not the issue. The real issue is not to fall into the Microsoft or RedHat paradigm. This is a flavour of Unix, Unix is not trivial, Unix is a fairly mature fully featured operating system and you have to know at least a little about what you are doing and be prepared to read the manual before you do something useful. IMHO one of the reasons that there is a contest between NT and Linux is that Microsoft said that NT was so simple to install and use, unfortunately tuning and other administrative tasks can be a real pain. Linux never made any bones about the fact that you have to learn to be able to use it. It's not out of the box and run. I think that the efforts to dumb down the operating system and say that anyone can use it would hurt the Linux image, maybe irreparably. Apart from that all real computer enthusiasts are masochists any way. Tell someone that this is a system that only real men can use (sorry about the sexist remark but real people does not convey the same meaning) and you'll have them fighting to get at it (how do you think I started) and have a real sense of achievement when they manage to get the system to boot, and now PPP, and now bind, and now sendmail, and now ... Let Microsoft take the bashing from users who do not WANT to know. Stay just that little bit above the rest. Have all the tools in any and every form. Drag'n Drop is good, but so is rcp. And now it's back to work. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.1 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBN99PNSTe2wIotMrcEQLUpQCg0g4Y22gkoXHf51aeQt3upQ8qK6UAoOTS qWoAPRGuyBGgw6H5LnWQK1BQ =0P97 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: a sendmail puzzle
How about setting the attribute to always append the domain name. (can't remember the option but it's around somewhere) __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 15 September 1999 09:03 Subject: a sendmail puzzle hey. we've recently decided that it would be a good idea to build a new shell box and isolate it a bit more then our current one is (keep the hackers a little farther away from where anything important happens). this box will also handle uucp mail because our uucp customers need to log in to a server to fire up uucico, and i don't want them to have access to anything but the shell box. i also don't want this box to do any local delivery (except of course for uucp). if shell users want access to their mail they can do it via pop with pine/mutt/fetchmail to a server which has /var/mail mounted from our netapp. the reason that i don't just mount /var/mail on the netapp is security. if a server is going to be compromised it is 99% likely to be this one, and i don't want an errant cracker to have access to everyone's mail. basically all mail should be forwarded to a smarthost except uucp mail. the problem is that mail sent on the command line to a user without a domain appended is considered local without being parsed by mailertable (which is what i'm using to define a smarthost). i can't think of any good way to do this. i thought about using a global procmail rule (/etc/procmailrc) to catch all mail being delivered without an @ in it and to forward it to the same user at our smarthost. this reeks of 'kluge' though, and i would really prefer a nicer solution. so basically what i want is a null client configuration, but that doesn't work with any other mailers defined. does anyone have any ideas? thanks, adam. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X Configuration
I have reconfigured. I am well within the specs of both monitor and video card. I am trying to install using XF86_Mono to make sure, and work my way up to XF86_SVGA as this is the suggested server for my video card (Trident TGUI9440 based PCI Graphics card) - Original Message - From: David Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 13 September 1999 18:03 Subject: Re: X Configuration Sounds like you could be trying to run X out of your monitor's scan range. Try running XF86Setup, as root, and reconfigure. Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/13/99 11:29:47 AM Hi all I have just downloaded X onto my Linux box and this time I am determined to get it up and running. The configuration did not go by the book so I am now wondering is there a FAQ or something that I can go to. I just get a blank screen and when I try to change virtual console I get video back and a message to the effect that the Xserver did not start. Any help would be much appreciated. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: simple bind question
The legacy files in /var/named are actually read by bindconfig and used to generate the named.conf file. I wasn't actually expecting the named.conf file, being of the bind 4 generation the last time I had to set up a DNS server and this completely threw me for a while until by accident I used bindconfig and it automagically modified the named.conf file, but such is life. If you just configure by hand you can remove the legacy files AFAIK. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jonathan Lupa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 14 September 1999 05:01 Subject: simple bind question I'm in the process of moving my masq. firewall over to Debian and leaving Slackware altogether, but I'm running into a difference in the bind setup and I am curious about ramifications that I may not forsee... In my old named setup, (I think it was bind 8.1.2) I had a named.conf which specified zones, each one with a zone file. In the debian version (files generated by bindsetup or some such), it has the named.conf file, but then uses these /var/named/boot.zones, /var/named/boot.options, and a named.boot file, all of which I suspect are leftovers from bind 4. They don't have a man entry, the filenames don't show up in a grep of /usr/doc/named/*, and being a lazy man, I figured Id go strait to the list. Now, my first impulse is to just delete them and setup my zonefiles as I know how. The million dollar question is : In what way is this going to hose me when I need to update bind (assuming they ever fix the licence. (: ) Thanks!! -- Jonathan Lupa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X Configuration
480x300 needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted. (--) VGA2: Mode 480x300 needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. (--) VGA2: Mode 480x300 needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (--) VGA2: PCI: Trident TGUI 9440 rev 227, Memory @ 0xff80, MMIO @ 0xffaf xf86ReadBios: Failed to open /dev/mem (No such file or directory) xf86ReadBios: Failed to open /dev/mem (No such file or directory) (--) Trident chipset version: 0xe3 (TGUI9440AGi) (--) VGA2: Revision 4. (--) VGA2: Using Trident programmable clocks (--) VGA2: chipset: tgui9440agi (--) VGA2: videoram: 1024k (using 256k) (--) VGA2: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 90.000 MHz (**) VGA2: Mode 640x480: mode clock = 25.175 (--) VGA2: There is no mode definition named 800x600 (--) VGA2: Removing mode 800x600 from list of valid modes. (**) VGA2: Virtual resolution set to 800x600 Fatal server error: xf86MapVidMem: failed to open /dev/mem (No such file or directory) When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). === The last lines are the same on both telnet and console so I assume that the full output is correct. The interesting part is the /dev/mem not being available, what are the major / minor numbers for this device to create it by hand? TIA __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X Configuration
Hi all I have just downloaded X onto my Linux box and this time I am determined to get it up and running. The configuration did not go by the book so I am now wondering is there a FAQ or something that I can go to. I just get a blank screen and when I try to change virtual console I get video back and a message to the effect that the Xserver did not start. Any help would be much appreciated. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| | Isys \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive
As far as I can remember the old fixed disk controller used to be installed at paragraph C800:. To do a low level format we used to use the debug facility in DOS and do g C800:0005. I may be wrong, but this was 1986 on IBM PS/2s using 20MB hard disks, but a lot of legacy stuff seems to have pulled through - Original Message - From: Richard E. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Guilherme Soares Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 13 September 1999 14:18 Subject: Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive Guilherme grunted, But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive. It isn't necessary any more since the 80's. More that that, it's REALLY dangerous to do so in new IDE drives (something to do with geometry parameters, if I'm not mistaken)... I have an old one I'd like to try it on, but the bios doesn't do it. I stuck it in another machine briefly, and now it absolutely refuses to work as a primary (but is just fine as a slave). It's an old caviar 540 for the kids' machine. Right now they have my machine, because that machine can't boot from the slave (or even use it without a primary present), nor can it recognize more than 1024 cylinders (or use the alternate modes). So it sees my 8g drive as a 540 or so :( I noticed the box on a new 20G at sam's club yesterday claimed it had software to get around old bios's, but I'm not willing to pay $250 just to get an old 486 running (the kids' stuff is almost all windows, so I have to deal with bios problems :( rick Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk??? That should happen on a regular formatk, shouldn't it? (the current command is superformat) -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Version 2.0 to 2.1 upgrade
Hi All I just updated from 2.0 to 2.1. Everything went smoothly except for the sendmail installation. Sendmail found my existing install and asked me whether I wanted to keep it or not, I said keep. Unfortunately there seem to be a few side effects with this. 1) sendmail.cf has been moved from /etc to /etc/mail, but the script /etc/init.d/sendmail checks for the existence if the /etc/sendmail.cf command before it executes anything. 2) I found that submitting mail from the Linux box worked but submitting it from a workstation did not, giving an error about relaying. The only way I could get round this was to add domain names for all my clients into the /etc/mail/relay-domains file. This seems to work, but it is a real drag. Thank God I did the upgrade over the weekend. Are there any better ways to address these problems? Am I the only one to have seen these problems? TIA --- | Simon Martin | By definition, all software is faulty. | | Project Manager | It is just a mere coincidence if it| | Isys | ever seems to work ;-)| --- mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian Linux
RE: Version 2.0 to 2.1 upgrade
Thanks Thomas, Works like a dream and it even makes sense! -Original Message- From: thomas lakofski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 1999 11:19 To: Simon Martin Cc: Debian-user list Subject: Re: Version 2.0 to 2.1 upgrade On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, Simon Martin wrote: 1) sendmail.cf has been moved from /etc to /etc/mail, but the script /etc/init.d/sendmail checks for the existence if the /etc/sendmail.cf command before it executes anything. There should be a file /etc/init.d/sendmail.dpkg-new -- you might want to replace the /etc/init.d/sendmail file with this one so that it looks in the right place. 2) I found that submitting mail from the Linux box worked but submitting it from a workstation did not, giving an error about relaying. The only way I could get round this was to add domain names for all my clients into the /etc/mail/relay-domains file. This seems to work, but it is a real drag. Thank God I did the upgrade over the weekend. This relaying protection is actually something that you definitely DO want. If you're running sendmail open to all relaying on the Internet, before long some spammer will discover it and happily steal your bandwidth and cpu to send their crap all over the Internet, possibly resulting in the blacklisting of your mailhost stopping you from mailing about 30% of the net. You should be able to use appropriate wildcards in the relay-domains file so you don't have to do it by host, but by IP ranges (172.16.*) or whole domains (*.example.com). Yes it's more of a pain than unrestricted access, but having your mailer exploited by spammers is more of a pain than anything (and many people will dislike you for it.) hope this helps, -thomas .. please forgive my abrupt ending hre - but my conection is xtrememleyyhiclmelyey BAD hiccuppy etc must sign off - EF D8 33 68 B3 E3 E9 D2 C1 3E 51 22 8A AA 7B 98 umbra (!) --- | Simon Martin | By definition, all software is faulty. | | Project Manager | It is just a mere coincidence if it| | Isys | ever seems to work ;-)| --- mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian Linux
New X11 installation
Hi all, Only me. I have now got a limping X11 installation. A few questions/observations: 1) I installed xserver_svga from Debian-1.2. When I run xbase-configure it complains at the end of the installation that there is no XF86_S3 (I have a Dell Dimension P130 with an S3 Trio 64 display driver). I generated a link in /usr/X11R6/bin pointing to XF86_SVGA and it seems to work ok, but... 2) If I specify the card as an S3 Trio 64 then when it launches the X screen the dimensions are all wrong. In fact I can only see the top left quadrant this means that I can't get to the xvidtune options. 3) Once I configure and X starts I don't get a login prompt. It just reflects the messages that diald generates for some unknown reason. What am I doing wrong? Simon Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian 1.1 - 1.2 update
Ok, I'm back on-line. I completely obliterated my debian installation through not reading the documentation, but that's my problem. I am now working on 1.2 and would like to thank everyone involved. It looks brilliant. I might even try and get X to work... A couple of little things 1) /dev/MAKEDEV no longer supports the option loop. I remembered something about major 7 when I ran this on 1.1 and it seems to be working. 2) the install disks say Welcome to Debian 1.1 3) When I tried to configure modules from the install disks, it failed saying the kernel was the wrong version (see point 2) Apart from this it was quite painless, once I got over the fact that I had completely obliterated my existing installation. The good thing about this is that I only took about 2 days to get everything up and running, from scratch. Somebody has put a lot of good work into the packaging system. Once again thanks. Simon Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
named woes
Hi all, I have everything working alright on Debian 1.2, except named. named is working, it will resolve names with no problems. Unfortunately, it connects to my ISP, so when I use it when the link is down it takes quite a while to get up and running. On Debian 1.1 it this worked ok. On Debian 1.2 it times out before it gets resolves the address. I have worked around it for the moment by having my ISP's address appear 3 times in resolv.conf, it treats it as three different name servers. This is but a frig, how can I change the timeout? Simon Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ppp and mgetty
Hi all, ... and now for something completely different. I have one modem on my debian box. I use this to connect to my ISP using diald/ppp. works a charm. I now need to enable external access to my debian box. I am going to be travelling and I will need access to my hard disk. I downloaded mgetty and configured it, but when it is spawned, diald will raise the ip link but ppp fails. Any bright ideas? TIA Simon Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving directories to new partition
Copying - I have used cp -a to good effect (transferring /usr amongst others), e.g. cp -a /home/. /tmpmount. CAUTION 1: When you mount a filesystem, the visible effects are mounting a directory tree structure, from the mount point down, so with only one filesystem (on /dev/hda) you CANNOT replace /home, /root, /lib, /bin, without mounting it as /. For example, if you 'mount /dev/hda8 /home' all the subdirectories in /dev/hda8 will hang from /home. The only way you can do this is to have separate filesystems for /home, /root, ... CAUTION 2: Because of the importance of /bin, /sbin, /dev, /etc, /boot the most secure way of partitioning is to have a root partition that is just large enough to handle these directories and then mount the rest of the directories as separate filesystems. This is due to the fact that the smaller a partition is the less probable it is that a sector will die on it, and if a segment dies on root, you have problems. The only directory here that might be loaded as a separate filesystem is /bin, I'm not sure of the dependencies here in Debian Linux. Hope this helps | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1152 | Simon Martin | Old software engineers never die, | they just fail to boot | | Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized | as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Richard Morin wrote: I am in need of some advice about how to go about moving some of the directories off of my main partition and onto one I just made. /dev/hda4 is currently mounted / /dev/hda8 is currently mounted /tmpmount I'd like to be able to move /home, /root, /lib, /bin, and a couple others over to /dev/hda8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Formatting umsdos partitions
Try mount -t vfat /dev/hd?? /??. This mounts the filesystem with long name support | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1152 | Simon Martin | Old software engineers never die, | they just fail to boot | | Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized | as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Formatting umsdos partitions Date: 17 December 1996 14:04 I have Debian packages on a Win95 formatted disk and need to transfer them to a Linux formatted disk. These packages have the long filenames, they were not downloaded from the msdos directory. However when I try to access the files directly from Linux, it converts the files to the 8.3 dos convention thus losing the long filenames. The Linux formatted disk has a spare partition I can work with to help transfer these files. I am wondering, if I format the spare partition to the umsdos format, will Win95 be able to recognize it - letting me copy the files there, and preserve the long filenames. Then could I copy/install the files through Linux from the umsdos partition to the ext2 partition keeping the filenames intact? If this is possible, how do I format the partition to the umsdos format? The mkfs command seems to have only msdos but not umsdos. If this idea will not work, are there any ways to transfer these files to my Linux file system and preserve the long filenames? --Greg -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mounting a file as a filesystem
Hi all, I have two disks on my PC, hda=127 MB and hdb=1.6 GB. I am using hda for Debian, hdb is Win95. I installed Debian on hda as a test and promptly fell in love with it. Unfortunately I earn my living developing for Win 3.x/Win 95 and so cannot easily repartition my main disk. I heard some noise on this list about setting being able to mount a file as a filesystem. I would like to know how I can create say a 200MB file on hdb (Win 95) and mount it as a filesystem on say /usr. Is this possible? What do I need to do it? | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Simon Martin | Old software engineers never die, | they just fail to boot | | Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized | as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mounting a file as a filesystem
Hi all, Thanks for the suggestions. I dowloaded FIPS and used it to repartition my hard disk. I haven't found any problems yet. Thanks Simon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange behavior of lpr+lpd resolved
Mario Giammarco wrote: snip I cannot understand why a cable let some program print and other no. This is because there different handshaking schemes that can be implemented on the Centronics interface. I don't have a copy of the IEEE specification at the moment so I can't be more specific. One of the big problems about the Centronics interface is that there are 2 specifications, which use the BUSY/READY signals in a slightly different way. Another big problem is that the IEEE specification is an evergreen document, i.e. it is constantly changing. Hope this helps -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X is painful
From: Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Nah, Xerox at PARC invented the GUI, they actually made a computer that used it, but it was really bad. Both Steve Jobs (Mac guy) and Bill Gates visited PARC and saw their GUI. They both saw that this was where the computer interface should head. The rest is history. snip Just a little aside. One of my jobs is for Xerox, and the Xerox workstations are pretty good. The UI and networking (XNS) are fully integrated, giving some very interesting and powerful side-effects. So interesting in fact that I understand that Novell licensed some it for NetWare 4. The workstations are Sparc based. Unfortunately they are dying out, as only Xerox internal development supports them, because neither the UI nor XNS became commercial products (don't ask me why). I know that Mac OS, Windows and Solaris are based on the PARC UI projects (there is even a thank you note to Xerox in the Solaris documentation), but this is not surprising seeing as Xerox developed the mouse, an early windowing environment, etc, whilst most other people hadn't even thought about a simple menu system. Thanks for listening | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1152 | Simon Martin | Old software engineers never die, | they just fail to boot | | Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized | as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
I think there are definitely two threads that should be pulled out of here: 1) Hints and tips on using dselect 2) Improvements for dselect Personally I had few problems getting to grips with dselect, but as far as intuitive, user friendly interfaces are concerned its a pigs orphan. I know that Bill Gates isn't the most liked person on this list, but I definitely think that we can learn a few things from his trade. Menu based systems may not be a panacea, but they definitely make things easier. Seeing as I have developed menu based systems on VAX/VMS systems using VT100 screen control codes, it should be feasible to do the same on Linux using ncurses, or some such thing. The first thing that any new user sees when installing Debian Linux is dselect. I think we should make his first experience as pleasurable as possible. Even though I have not been using it for long, I think it is a great product, and a great concept, but let's make it pretty. A lot of good products have died through lack of beauty. Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Docs for cron.daily?
I remember seeing an entry for this in a normal crontab file. It must be in /etc or /var/spool/cron/root, or something like that. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- From: Lamar Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Docs for cron.daily? Date: 08 November 1996 11:16 I've been unable to locate any information on how to make changes to _when_ cron.daily runs. Can anyone point me to some documentation or tell me how to specify a specific time? Thanks, -- Lamar Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~fols9488 Life is wasted on the living. - The Master -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tail -f /var/adm/messages
You probably set the debug flag on diald. At least this is the output I got when I did that. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- From: Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: tail -f /var/adm/messages Date: 03 November 1996 07:00 What did I do to get the following output from tail -f /var/adm/messages? Nov 3 12:44:01 Johann last message repeated 65817 times Nov 3 12:45:01 Johann last message repeated 66331 times Nov 3 12:46:01 Johann last message repeated 66326 times Nov 3 12:47:01 Johann last message repeated 63128 times Nov 3 12:48:01 Johann last message repeated 50075 times Nov 3 12:49:01 Johann last message repeated 54363 times Nov 3 12:50:01 Johann last message repeated 61691 times At first it worked well while I was trying to debug my ppp-script (which btw I so far did not succceed with). I changed some file-permissions as a result of the output of the messages-file. At the moment the above output is all that I get. Can somebody help, please? Johann Spies -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DialD: Finally
Hi Daniel, Try using the ip-up/ip-down scripts. See the man page for more info Simon -- From: Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: DialD: Finally Date: 25 October 1996 23:08 Ok!! Don't need help on this anymore!! It works.. finally... BUT... does anyone know how to make it run a custom script that I have to produce a html file that gets uploaded to my ISP? (The script works already... just want diald to automatically do it when I get connected) TIA -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What does Debian mean?
Bruce answered this a while back. It stands for Deborah and Ian, the people who started off Debian. Over to you Bruce Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- From: Luis Francisco Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Linux Users List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: What does Debian mean? Date: 25 October 1996 09:03 Hi, I know this is not terribly important but I was wondering where the name debian came from. Maybe those that have been in the project long could share that with those of us that joined when debian had been underway for a long time already. Thanks, Luis. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
popclient and diald (fwd)
forwarded message: From smartin Tue Oct 15 14:38:30 1996 Message-Id: m0vDDRm-0005CzC@ From: smartin (Simon Martin) Subject: popclient and diald To: smartin (Simon Martin) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:38:30 -0300 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1450 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by huelen.reuna.cl (Smail3.1.25.1 / REUNA) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 15 Oct 96 01:55 SAT Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by love.dial.xs4all.nl (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01506; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:08:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:08:03 +0200 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: popclient and diald From: Vincent Zweije [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eric Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: aed415b2c7788b08a3105dfec6a4130c In response to mail from Vincent Zweije snip Simon now says: || I have a work around for now. Instead of using popclient in daemon mode I || have generated a script that forces diald to raise the link, waits for ppp || to be activated (/var/run/ppp0.pid is created) and then runs popclient. This || is called periodically by cron To me this sounds as if Simon has (a) a dynamically assigned IP address on dial-up, and (b) The POP server in /etc/hosts. snip Hope this helps. Vincent. Vincent: It did help. I did this and it now works correctly. Thank you very much. -- Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot All Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: popclient and diald (fwd)
Hi all, This is a message I sent to the Eric, popclient maintainer. I tend to agree with Eric, this does look more like a diald problem. I have added the following lines to my diald configuration files accept tcp 30 tcp.dest=tcp.pop-3 accept tcp 30 tcp.source=tcp.pop-3 accept udp 30 udp.dest=udp.pop-3 accept udp 30 udp.source=udp.pop-3 I am using pop3 and pop-3/tcp and pop-3/udp are defined in /etc/services I have a work around for now. Instead of using popclient in daemon mode I have generated a script that forces diald to raise the link, waits for ppp to be activated (/var/run/ppp0.pid is created) and then runs popclient. This is called periodically by cron If anyone wants this script, let me know Simon Forwarded message: From POPmail Fri Oct 11 19:09:55 1996 From: Eric S. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: popclient and diald To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Martin) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:16:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Simon Martin at Oct 10, 96 10:40:33 pm Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Content-Type: text X-UIDL: 5f9ef3c40e3cb25252161959ac80a484 I have just installed popclient 3.05-3 and got it working. I must admit, it was pretty harmless. Unfortunately I am having problems with popclient/diald. When my link is down and I invoke popclient, diald brings the link up, but as far as I can see the original POP3 request is lost. Once the link is up, if I interrupt popclient (ctrl-c and then invoke it again it connects directly to the server, no problems at all. Can you give some idea on how to solve this please. Unfortunately not. This sounds like a diald bug. -- a href=http://www.ccil.org/~esr/home.html;Eric S. Raymond/a -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail system
Hi all, I have decided to assume that my ipfwadm/diald configuration works, and will connect it to the internal network. Now onto another subject, I need to set up mail services. My internal network will have an eventual (dial-up) connection, so all mailboxes will be handled by my ISP (reuna.cl). All the people working on the internal net will have mail boxes with the ISP. Periodically (once an hour) the mail system must connect to the outside world and read the specified mailboxes. I have installed smail but I can't seem to find anything in the documentation that will allow me to do this. The network structure I have is as follows 1) ISP - reuna.cl 2) Linux host - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my own invention may not be correct) 3) Internal network - Ethernet 4) Internet connection - diald/ppp with ip masquerading 5) Test to run receive and dispatch mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the server Any bright ideas? TIA Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPFWADM and DIALD
Hi all, I sent a fairly long enquiry a couple of days ago but nothing happened. In this case I would like to know who are the DIALD and IPFWADM maintainers so that I can really get to grips with what is happening internally in these packages and see if I can solve my problems. Thanks. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipfwadm
From: Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Simon Martin wrote: 2) recompiled the kernel experimental, with the masquerade, firewall, etc enabled, ip forwarding, etc disabled, as per the instructions in the IP_MASQUERADE mini howto. (I can connect to my ISP without any problems) If I understand you right, you're saying you disabled IP forwarding? Are you sure the masq mini howto said to do this? I'm quite sure you need IP forwarding enabled to use masquerading. In fact, the latest kernels don't even allow you to enable masquerading unless IP forwarding is also enabled first. Gerry Sorry Gerry, I was misleading you. I just checked my config and CONFIG_IP_FORWARDING is enabled. In another mail: From: Giuseppe Vacanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip # Forward packets from ds3-net, masquerading as deselby.xs4all.nl. ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -V 192.168.1.1 ipfwadm -F -p deny I can see how this will masquerade/forward all messages coming in on network 192.168.1, going to any IP address via 192.168.1.1 (i.e. the server). Before I set this up on a running network I would like to be able to test IP masquerading/forwarding on the server in isolation first. As far as I can see diald should set up a static SLIP interface with a given IP address and, upon demand, dial out to an ISP, connect using PPP and generate a PPP interface, as follows SLIP: interface IP: 192.168.2.1 PPP: interface IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the dynamic ISP assigned IP address. If I turn reroute off in diald, some software must forward packets from the SLIP interface (which receives the original request) to the PPP interface which is connected to the real world. I was hoping to be able to use ipfw to do this. 1) Watching the changes that occur even with reroute turned off both the SLIP and PPP interfaces are modified when diald connects 2) In the following configuration:IP: -- | server | | 192.168.1.1| || -- PPP| | ^ | | V | net: 192.168.1.0 | SLIP -- Ethernet --- -- should the SLIP IP=Ethernet IP=192.168.1.1 3) Is there any way of testing forwarding/masquerading withount going live? Thanks already to Gerry and Giuseppe. Are there any more suggestions? Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipfwadm
Hi all, I have been trying to set up a firewall on my Debian box, but to no avail. The steps I have taken are as follows: 1) setup the dial connection to my ISP using diald with ppp. (I can connect to my ISP without any problems) 2) recompiled the kernel experimental, with the masquerade, firewall, etc enabled, ip forwarding, etc disabled, as per the instructions in the IP_MASQUERADE mini howto. (I can connect to my ISP without any problems) 3) disabled reroute in diald. I can no longer connect my ISP. This what I expect as I have to now specify the forwarding to be done from the SLIP to the PPP interface by hand (once I can do it by hand then I can automate it using the diald ip-up/ip-down scripts). When I try to do an ftp, diald connect to my ISP correctly, but after a while ftp fails saying: Host name lookup failure. When I do an ifconfig after connection to my ISP I see the following: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-Point Protocol inet addr:200.28.16.97 P-t-P:200.28.16.4 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1524 Metric:1 RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 sl0 Link encap:Serial Line IP inet addr:200.28.16.97 P-t-P:200.28.16.4 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:1524 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 What values must I sepcify in ipfwadm -I, ipfwadm -F, ipfwadm -O. I need to use masquerading because as soon as I get it up and running on my host box, then I have to set it up as an Internet router on a private network. I must restrict as far as possible all entries from the Internet to my Intranet, but still permit the Intranet all possible routes out to the Internet (mail, news, www, telnet, irc, to name but a few). I hope someone can help me as I am a bit lost at the moment. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Firewall
Hi all, My thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for his solution on setting up my PS/2 mouse. I eventually gave up on X11 though, never got more than a blank screen. I'll come back to it when I get a chance. Now for my next questions: 1) can anyone let me know there experiences with firewall software (SOCKS, TIS, ...) as I intend to setup an Internet firewall now 2) can anyone let me know where to find the above software. Thanks in advance Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners.
Re: Swap partition and fdisk
Hi all, I might not be a UNIX (Linux) guru yet (if ever), but I do know a thing or two about OS handling. As someone (sorry I dumped the mail so I can't use your name) pointed out correctly: Swap partition=Total memory requirements - Available memory Now if anyone can tell me the correct value for Total memory requirements I would be very pleased because I also need to know the length of a piece of string. For quite a few systems, the recommended size of the swap partition (AKA virtual memory) is 1.5 - 2 times the available memory. This is not because of some magical relationship between the amount of memory required and the amount of money spent on memory, but rather due to 2 basic concepts: 1) If you have an active system and you need a large amount of virtual memory, then the probability that the memory required being swapped out is fairly high. This means that the time that the system spends swapping can become more that the time spent on useful processing (all depending on the access speed on the swap device, transfer rates, etc.). When this becomes acute the system starts thrashing at which time, for all intents and purposes, the system is unavailable and must be rebooted. If the virtual memory is capped then the system will just say no way before a dangerous swap level is reached. Given the typical physical constraints on low end devices such as those we find in a UNIX, Windoze, DOS box 2 is about good enough a ratio to use for the swap partition. 2) Whatever people say Apple, IBM, etc. employ some pretty clever people. Originally Apple said we only needed about 64 KB memory, IBM said 640 KB (Why back in the good old days I worked on a DEC System-10 which served about 80 users with 128KB RAM, but fast swap devices). If these people can get it wrong, I'm not even going to try. Now given the cost of a hard disk (1GB=US$500 I suppose, which means about 1.5 cents per 32 KB swap partition) and the cost of bringing down a server to repartition and reinstall (say about an hour of a systems administrator, plus an hour for everyone who cannot access the server...) and I think people will agree that it may be a good idea to install a swap partition, even though I don't think I need it, because tomorrow... Sorry I got so long winded but I think that this is a very important subject and I have fairly flame-retardant skin. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners.
Mouse
Hi, I've just installed the X11 distribution (xbase, xserver-s3 and xfntbase). When I try startx it comes back with no mouse found or a message to that effect. I am using a Dell P120t with a bus mouse connected to the on board interface. I see quit a few mouse devices in /dev. Which one is active? How can I extract this information without having to turn to the experts? A minor observation on the Web sites I have looked at so far with respect Linux and Debian. From my point of view as a UNIX user, DOS/Windows/Embedded programmer there is very little on-line information available that I can make sense of. Probably in 6 months time I'll understand about half of it Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, maybe the philosophy is only those who know can learn, maybe I don't have the right IQ, but the fact is that up till now I have come up to a brick wall. The information available in the HOWTOs is very good, but from an initial startup point of view, if things go wrong I need to browse through a couple of MB of data, not very productive. As I said, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, please any advice that may be advantageous. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners.
First time installation
Hi all, Thanks for all the replies on elf-x11r6lib. To avoid just dribbling enquiries out I think it would be better to let you know what I'm doing and see if you can help me. I am installing a Debian-Linux server for the first time in order to comply with the following criteria (in chronological order): 1) Setup as an Internet client. I will be the only person using it. Connected to an ISP using SLIP or PPP. The ISP will assign my IP address at connection. It must dial/disconnect on demand. I need all the normal access (ftp, telnet, http, news, gopher, mail) 2) Setup as a firewall. This server will become a Proxy server to supply Internet access to an internal organization. Again all normal Internet access must be available. 3) Setup as an Intranet server. Serve our own internal news, mail, http requirements 4) Setup as a dedicates Internet server. 24 hour leased line Internet server. In parallel I will start developing software on this UNIX kernel. I work principally in control and MMI (man machine interfaces). Up till now I have only designed and implemented on DOS, Windows 3.1, Windows 95 (32 bit-multi threaded) and proprietary Embedded and Stand alone controllers. If anyone could help me by sending any kind of instructions, links to Web sites, or other information that might be helpful I would be much obliged. Thanks, in advance, for any help. Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners.
elf-x11r6lib
Hi all, Whilst trying to install tk40 I get a dependency error on elf-x11r6lib. I've checked the Debian Web and ftp sites and haven't been able to find it. Can anyone tell me where to access this file? Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners.
