Re: zoom client for bullseye
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 08:15 +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote: > Last time (that time bullseye still on testing release) I tried with > they official deb, I getting dependencies issues too.. trying with > "apt-get -f install" solve the installation but somehow when I using > it, > it hang...and sometimes I can't close my camera properly. > > Then I switched to snap version. It work fine until now so I just > gonna > stick using snap version but honestly, I don't recommend you to use > snap > package because of it disturbing for someone who really care about > bandwidth, permission to run and storage size. It will be the last > options for me. I use the Flatpak for Zoom. It works fine, and since there's no .deb repo, with the Flatpak I get updates. Since I very seldomly use Zoom, it was always out of date when I did start it, so I'm happy to have the Flatpak.
Re: Jessie with ATI Radeon HD 4250 boots black screen after installing drivers...
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: I have a laptop which also has a 4000-series Radeon GPU, and I run it with the non-proprietary driver from the xserver-xorg-video-radeon package instead. It's not as performant as the proprietary FGLRX equivalent would probably be, if one were available, but it does work; the proprietary driver went away in testing some time last year, and I haven't had any particular problems with the free alternative. I used to have this ATI graphics chip, and it worked well then with the open Radeon driver. I'd try that. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3M8UF0DRvR3OQj6JA6=qfsexjmkbyeie9j4+jcx+ur...@mail.gmail.com
Re: XFCE upgrade wheezy-jessie feedback
I'd say file some bugs against the packages in Jessie. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com ste...@stevenrosenberg.net On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote: Today, I upgraded my system from wheezy to jessie (mostly because I wanted to install the steam client). This has had at least two issues so far: First, the XFCE panel at the bottom of my screen has materially increased its height (causing the bottom edges of my commonly used applications to now lie behind the task bar) without me taking any configuration action. This was a minor issue, easily remedied, but I don't think I should have had to remedy it in the first place. Second, the clock, the notification area, and the workspace selector have changed their positioning behaviour. Instead of sitting in a fixed position at the bottom right of the screen as they did under wheezy, their horizontal position fluctuates according to the size of the Window Buttons item (which changes every time I open or close an application). This strikes me as clearly suboptimal, and unlike the issue with the panel height (just tweak a slider in the panel properties), I cannot readily find a way to revert the positioning behaviour of these items to what it was under wheezy. Can anyone advise? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53442bce.7020...@zen.co.uk
Re: Suspend leads to black screen without sleep [Dell Latitude E6440]
I had success with suspend by adding resume=/path/to/swap to my GRUB bootline. To find your /path/to/swap, use: $ swapon -s And use that to create your own /resume=/dev/sda2 type of line (remember, yours will vary depending on your installation. Adding it to GRUB is another matter, but if you pause during boot and add this resume= line, then boot and then can successfully suspend and resume, you can then figure out how to permanently modify GRUB 2 to make the resume line persist in your GRUB. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com ste...@stevenrosenberg.net On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Ghislain Vaillant ghisv...@gmail.com wrote: Another issue with my Dell Latitude E6440 with AMD hybrid graphics is suspend not working. Suspend leads to a black screen, the system does not go to sleep and seems to be still running (power LED and fan are still on). I already tried different kernel: 3.5 (Ubuntu LTS), 3.12 and 3.13 (Debian sid/experimental) without success. I was wondering if you guys experienced similar behaviour with suspend and if there are workarounds or ways to debug that. Thanks, Ghislain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3M4Y0uUjsPQdLNnqUvMT=d5arnvnnbjdxtcn3acspm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Font Rendering in Debian Wheezy XFCE
To get better font rendering in Xfce in Settings - Appearance - Fonts: -- Check the box to enable anti-aliasing -- make it Hinting: Full -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com ste...@stevenrosenberg.net On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Muntasim-Ul-Haque tranjees...@inventati.org wrote: Hi, Fonts is Debian Wheezy XFCE does not look good. I'm not comparing the font rendering with other distros but I have to make it better and clearer. How to make fonts look great in Debian Wheezy XFCE? What's the way out? With thanks, Muntasim-Ul-Haque -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52b178b1.3000...@inventati.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3P0C0d20e2yGzX8X7DJV=qfi11s-w3mqhzuunr3vmj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............
I don't see well-used laptops lasting longer than 5 years. Something's bound to go wrong. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3m3pztfm5qxg_luyvfa5uukrbqz3b3gkoxnwv45pao...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Lenovo R61 Think Pad dead after fewer than five years
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Is it normal for any laptop to fail in fewer than five years, or is such a failure rate unique to Lenovo's laptops? My last laptop was a Lenovo, but not a Thinkpad. It died at just under three years of life. I was pretty hard on it, but I did expect more than three years. I'd say five years is the most you can expect from any laptop. Anything more is gravy.
Re: Planning for Disk Encryption
Tighten up on your backups. I've been running encrypted partitions (and full disk encryption) for years, and I haven't had a disk problem. Had plenty of other problems (just had a motherboard go bad), and I'm glad I had the backups. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com ste...@stevenrosenberg.net On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:19 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 05/01/13 06:23, T o n g wrote: My understanding/impression is that with Full Disk Encryption, even a single bad sector will have a much larger impact than itself and might ruin the whole disk. ... So, what would you plan for normal home users on disk failure for Disk Encryption? How to cope with it? Hi, I guess what you are referring to can happen if you get bad sectors where the luks header resides. This is a single point of failure in luks whole disk encryption, to plan for this you must have current backups (but most likely on another encrypted media, so there is always a tiny probability that this is going to happen there too), and backup the luks headers (see command cryptsetup luksHeaderBackup). See cryptsetup man for security good practice regarding the headers backups. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.**debian.orgdebian-user-requ...@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**51821384.7000809@googlemail.**comhttp://lists.debian.org/51821384.7000...@googlemail.com
Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome
Until the motherboard died, I had both GNOME 3 and Xfce on my Wheezy laptop, and I'd go between one and the other. I got quite used to GNOME 3. When I started mousing into the hot-corner on non-GNOME systems, I knew that GNOME Shell had won me over. But I'm still using Xfce from time to time. It's nice to have the choice. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com ste...@stevenrosenberg.net On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le Mer 24 avril 2013 7:56, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 19:08 -0700, cletusjenkins wrote: xfce looks the best of the bunch to me. Xfce4 has got to many GNOME dependencies. I'm using it since years, but I don't like it, I just couldn't find a good DE until now. Things for Xfce4 are as often broken, as they are for GNOME, assumed you expect a GNOME2/Xfce4 workflow. What I call broken, others might call features. Maybe you could take a look at LXDE? There are still dependencies to GTK2 as XFCE, but those are not Gnome deps... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/03b18fda48e0fdaa020c7a5a67454b92.squir...@www.sud-ouest.org
Re: Installation failed
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: I don't dare fiddle with my hard disk. It's a Dell laptop that has WinXP preinstalled without a maintenance partition and I don't have a backup CD. If the current WinXP gets trashed, I'm hosed. If this is the case, I wouldn't go forward. I'd pull your current hard drive, put in a new one and install to the clean drive. That way you can experiment and get a feel for the installation procedure. That said, I've done many installs of Debian, Ubuntu and other Linux and BSD systems on hard drives with existing Windows installations (and I never use a maintenance partition for Windows), and it always works out fine. But don't commit to an installation of any kind without a full backup of your data. Clonezilla is your friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3OV2O=3r1nedjh4qxqp6bcf0ecxthpo439ojuswgv5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation failed
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Steven Rosenberg stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: I don't dare fiddle with my hard disk. It's a Dell laptop that has WinXP preinstalled without a maintenance partition and I don't have a backup CD. If the current WinXP gets trashed, I'm hosed. If this is the case, I wouldn't go forward. I'd pull your current hard drive, put in a new one and install to the clean drive. That way you can experiment and get a feel for the installation procedure. That said, I've done many installs of Debian, Ubuntu and other Linux and BSD systems on hard drives with existing Windows installations (and I never use a maintenance partition for Windows), and it always works out fine. But don't commit to an installation of any kind without a full backup of your data. Clonezilla is your friend. Now that I've seen the whole thread: -- Get a backup drive and use Clonezilla to back up your full hard disk with Windows on it -- Use Gparted with a live disc such as Parted Magic to shrink your Windows partition to a size you can live with -- Install Debian with the normal installer in the space you freed up -- Let Debian write the bootloader to the MBR -- Debian will find your Windows partition and account for it in the GRUB menu -- If any of this worries you, find a test machine somewhere -- they're not hard to find -- and do a bunch of installs. Once you do 20 or so, you'll know a lot more More than anything, don't run before you can crawl with confidence. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3Mz=3_r4y_ehnq+fw1klor3htomsjozws2_zfv+xdy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome classic theme for 7?
On 02/23/2013 02:40 AM, Harvey Kelly wrote: I have similar situation at home, and my partner uses Gnome Classic on Wheezy here. It is very much like Gnome 2 (without all the customisation options). You just need to select 'Gnome Classic' from the GDM menu the first time she logs in. Yes, the 'Gnome Classic' option has been removed from 3.8 onwards, but 3.4 is going to be in Debian for a very long time! The GNOME Classic option in Debian Wheezy (aka v.7) is a very sufficiently GNOME 2-like way to ride out this entire release cycle. I am pretty confident that GNOME will get its classic-like act together by the next Debian release. So for the next 2+ years, you'll be good with Wheezy and GNOME Classic/Fallback mode. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/512cead5.7010...@gmail.com
Re: openjdk version in testing is too old.
On 02/23/2013 02:06 AM, Roman V.Leon. wrote: Hi mates. Please advise, why openjdk-7 version is too old in testing? Debian testing repo: 7u3-2.1.3-1 0 Debian experimental repo: 7u15-2.3.7-1 0 Considering the fact that there were a few major vulnerabilities in JRE recently, I don't see other ways of installing JRE on Debian except for downloading it straight from oracle.com, because the version from testing should not be used due to security issues. Or did i miss something? OpenJDK is always going to lag behind in Debian. If this bothers you, go upstream. My solution: I dropping my last needs Java service, and I'll be dropping Java along with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/512cec4f.9090...@gmail.com
Re: printer-driver-foo2zjs and udev
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM, José Luis Segura Lucas josel.seg...@gmx.es wrote: Hi all. On Debian Testing I'm unable to make working an HP Laserjet 1018 after a big upgrade, after a lot of time without accessing the system. After a lot of tries, I just figured that, if I turn off the udev service when I power on the printer, then I can use the script hplj1018 to upload the proprietary firmware to it and then, make it working, but in the usual scenario, with all the services started and so on, I'm unable. After a little debug onto the hplj1018 script, I see that, when udev is started, the command usb_printerid doesn't return the expected output to the script, and it can't upload the firmware. In addition, I saw that printer-driver-foo2zjs package contains some udev rules. It's likely if the hplj1018 script will be run when the printer is detected at power up, but it doesn't work (or it doesn't work on the expected way). Has anyone experienced the same problem? In addition, I'm testing all that stuff from a remote location, so I don't have access to the printer to power it off and on, so the testing is difficult. Do you know some way to simulate the connection and disconnection of the USB device related to the printer? It will be nice to do it without calling by phone. Thaks in advance I'm using a HP LaserJet 1020, which I think is pretty similar, and I'm not doing anything special in Wheezy. It just works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3PNZ=2pt87itSYHqrkJSakD2wRDcUX=f_zvemgpz3h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: printer-driver-foo2zjs and udev
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Steven Rosenberg stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM, José Luis Segura Lucas josel.seg...@gmx.es wrote: Hi all. On Debian Testing I'm unable to make working an HP Laserjet 1018 after a big upgrade, after a lot of time without accessing the system. After a lot of tries, I just figured that, if I turn off the udev service when I power on the printer, then I can use the script hplj1018 to upload the proprietary firmware to it and then, make it working, but in the usual scenario, with all the services started and so on, I'm unable. After a little debug onto the hplj1018 script, I see that, when udev is started, the command usb_printerid doesn't return the expected output to the script, and it can't upload the firmware. In addition, I saw that printer-driver-foo2zjs package contains some udev rules. It's likely if the hplj1018 script will be run when the printer is detected at power up, but it doesn't work (or it doesn't work on the expected way). Has anyone experienced the same problem? In addition, I'm testing all that stuff from a remote location, so I don't have access to the printer to power it off and on, so the testing is difficult. Do you know some way to simulate the connection and disconnection of the USB device related to the printer? It will be nice to do it without calling by phone. Thaks in advance I'm using a HP LaserJet 1020, which I think is pretty similar, and I'm not doing anything special in Wheezy. It just works. Now that I think about it, I did have to reinstall the printer after I upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy, but once I did that, the printer worked normally and still does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3NjiM2icp991DEbeJTARjSzdF_agTsRN=evxz6tekw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Engineering Safety Organization engsaf...@engsafety.org wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any great suggestions for how to best post anonymously to web sites and how to create web sites and web servers to allow participants a reasonable expectation of anonymity so that they can freely post their concerns? I recommend Tails -- https://tails.boum.org/ -- a live distribution based on Debian with Tor and other privacy features enabled. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3MHDPRnMqeRxSo4MwnY9HoTn=05P=w9hyp0wwcgvjz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: icedove's auxiliary functions not working.
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gary Roach garyro...@verizon.net wrote: Debian wheezy Icedove 10.0.11 Recently Icedove quit following url's to the web browser and quit playing embedded videos. I can't seem to find the source of the problem. I've checked all of the settings on both iceweasel and icedove and couldn't fine anything wrong. Iceweasel works fine. Any suggestions. In icedove, go to Edit -- Preferences -- Attachments and check the content types and subsequent actions to make sure you have Iceweasel selected in the appropriate places. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3od5a6xvpk2ir8v2ks8ip64jm7zccwprmmprujxq4j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Audio not working : Intel C210 HD
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Flavien flavien-deb...@lebarbe.net writes: I'm having issues with audio : # lsmod | grep snd snd_pcm_oss32591 0 snd_pcm60487 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 6249 1 snd_pcm snd_mixer_oss 12606 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq42881 0 snd_timer 15598 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 4493 1 snd_seq snd46526 6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 4598 1 snd If I had new hardware right now, I'd be running Wheezy. Your chances of compatibility are much higher. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDrw3MBuqdUcBjxH=tp2=KFOGADr4ZrL=7fvmndmpy-w0z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories
It's nice to have the DVD images. You can do a lot with the first Debian DVD. If it's at all possible for your machine to boot from USB, I recommend loading the DVD image onto a USB thumb drive and booting/installing from it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3nprkuwqtsyuk3goatyzebv0kr7-siosmvpdphk9xu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fglrx driver
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:43:32PM +0400, Roman V.Leon. wrote: Gents and Ladies :-) please advise. I have an HP notebook with Ati Radeon 4200 GPU on board and sometimes i like to play old good windows games with help of wine while my little daughter is sleeping. But recently a real disaster had happened, ATI dropped a support of Radeon 4xxx cards and after update i was oblige to install a radeon driver instead of fglrx. Unfortunately this driver doesn't allow me to play Heroes of MM V. I tried to return to previous version of fglrx-driver(from snapshots.debian.org repo), but didn't succeed in it because driver depends on many packages including Xorg and so forth. I also tried fglrx-legacy-driver from experimental repository, but it hangs my system. Could you suggest please what steps i should do to manage my radeon working as it was before. My debian version is wheezy, current version of radeon driver which i see in the repo is 1:12-6+point-1. ^^ FYI, I don't see this version at http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-radeon Did you install the non-free firmware along with the radeon driver? Did Heroes of MM V report any errors or is performance simply lacking? I have this chip in my Lenovo G555 laptop, purchased in March 2010. When I first got the laptop, I was running Fedora 13, and I eventually tried the fglrx driver. The whole thing was a nightmare. It seemed to break with every kernel update. Trying to manage it outside the normal package management was not easy. (It didn't help that the maintainer of fglrx for RPM Fusion was months behind at that time.) I finally moved to Debian Squeeze using the open-source radeon driver, and things have been great ever since. I'm not a gamer, I grant you, but performance of the radeon driver has been excellent. I'm running Wheezy now, and it's still performing great. It is really important because i can't eat, i'm always in a bad mood, i'm bad with women and i'm suffering from insomnia without my old good games :-))) Thank you in advance. If it's that important to you, why not install Windows alongside Linux and boot into it to play the games? I second the other comment -- for big-time Windows games, keep a small Windows installation on your system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3ni2sx2szfa356zfz_ty5_jspga+20egqqf_rjetqw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fglrx driver
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: The open source drivers work better (in terms of integration with the X server) because the maintainers can adjust them to the latest changes in X and other graphic software. Unfortunately due to the problems noted above, they can't keep up with the proprietary drivers in terms of performance with the latest cards. It's possible this situation may change in the future for two reasons. One is that AMD is trying to open more of its source. The other is that the superior open source development model may eventually lead to drivers that are superior to the closed source ones providing that the licences follow the GPL which would prevent them from being included in proprietary software. One thing I'll never understand about graphics drivers in general and this ATI driver in particular is why they insist on having a single driver for the whole range of cards. This really bit me hard with the Intel driver a few years ago when kernel mode-setting came in and my chip couldn't handle it. Why didn't the X developers, Intel and, in this case the ATI/AMD developers keep a driver for the older cards, even if they never add a single new feature to it, and code a new driver for the newer cards. That way the new cards get what they need, and the old cards continue to run. I could half understand why my 10-year-old Intel chip was being thrown under the bus, but a two-year old ATI chip getting the same treatment? It's awful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3nyhu216bo8v1+kru8x51bpgeg0f+mx8r5b091zal2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java
On 08/14/2012 05:32 PM, Aidan Gauland wrote: Rob Owensrow...@ptd.net writes: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 08:29:41PM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Unfortunately, my internet baking does not recognize openjdk. Only sun-java seems to work. When calling technical support, the attendant insist I should upgrade to the last sun-java plugin. There is simply no alternatives for me. Did you install the icedtea plugin? That is the browser plugin that works with openjdk. Just make sure that doesn't work before you go through the trouble of installing sun/oracle java from squeeze or from source. I can vouch for the icedtea plugin. I have to run Java applets for some of my classes, and this has never given me any trouble. (Also using wheezy.) I made the switch from sun-java to icedtea while still in Squeeze and had a bit of trouble with one of my web apps. But when I upgraded to Wheezy, the new icedtea seemed to clear everything up, and now I'm having no problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502ec8a4.8000...@gmail.com
Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)
On 07/11/2012 08:09 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 11/07/12 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote: (please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) ) Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade Xserver to a version prior to 1.12. Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg. (...) In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in this Debian's forum thread): http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494 Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library) would be better, though... Greetings, The problem with using AMD's drivers is that they aren't always current with the latest X.org. That's probably why there is no fglrx-driver in the current Wheezy repositories. Moreover, the driver will likely break later as Wheezy evolves. I've been down this route myself. Eventually I just settled on the open source drivers. They work well and are kept updated. The proprietary drivers are just too much work when running debian/testing. +1 on this. I just don't think fglrx is worth the trouble. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50086484.90...@gmail.com
Re: Debian backup
On 07/17/2012 03:39 AM, Mostafa Hashemi wrote: hi guys hope u all be OK :D i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a dump (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian i checked out luckybackup , but it just copies files (backs them up) I use rsync on all Linux/Unix platforms. I have little shell scripts set up so I don't have to remember every little command switch every time. I generally rsync to a USB-connected hard drive. Rsync is well worth learning and using. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5008657d@gmail.com
Re: Backports on Squeeze
On 07/01/2012 05:15 PM, Mark Panen wrote: Is it safe to have backports enabled on a stable Squeeze 6.05 system? I had Backports enabled on my Squeeze desktop system for quite some time. I'd say only use Backports if you need it. In my case, I had audio problems with the 2.6.32 kernel that were solved in 2.6.35, so I used the kernels from Backports and did very well with them. I also got LibreOffice from there, as Squeeze offers OpenOffice. The version of Icedove in Backports is still too old to be useful. For Icedove and Iceweasel, I recommend the Debian Mozilla APT archive: http://mozilla.debian.net/ Other than kernels and LibreOffice, I don't think I was using very much from Backports, though it is a great resource if you want to keep a Stable system but have use for what's in the archive at any given time. It was very nice, in particular to be able to make an early transition to LibreOffice. I did disable Backports, plus the Debian Mozilla team APT Archive AND Debian Multimedia, when I did my in-place Squeeze-to-Wheezy upgrade. I might need them in the future, but for now Wheezy is complete as far as my needs are concerned. Still, I do recommend Backports for Stable systems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff33c34.9000...@gmail.com
Re: Filezilla a security risk
On 06/27/2012 04:58 PM, francis picabia wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 27 iun 12, 16:26:48, francis picabia wrote: I've just learned Filezilla is a security risk. It stores saved passwords and the last used password in a plain text file. As do many other programs. Huh. None that I run. Perhaps your standards are, uh, different. Malware commonly scoops up this info and hacks web sites or shell accounts. Sure. The developer refuses to incorporate a solution such as master password and encryption into filezilla. It's his prerogative to decide what to do with his spare time :) That, wasn't the point. The point is, waiting for a solution upstream isn't what we should do next. His responses in numerous bug reports and feature requests are: 1. encryption: that's the file system's job 2. don't get the malware in the first place In my opinion, people should avoid filezilla. Once your account has been compromised you must assume that any sensitive or confidential information accessible through that account has been compromised as well. Even if the passwords are stored encrypted on disc, at some point they have to be decrypted anyway, at which point they become vulnerable. Hope this explains, If you read some of the discussions about this vulnerability, there are many stories of accounts being compromised. I'm not talking theory, but something happening right now on many systems. The Filezilla application is popular, and therefore a common target of malware. As some of us have to guard systems which have many users on them, this is of interest. It isn't my account I'm worried about. We have to do what ever possible to reduce the size of the target to the hacker. In this case we advise users to uninstall Filezilla and use something else. Not all Windows users of FTP tools are IT savvy. They need warnings and guidance frequently. I passed this on so others can reduce their threat potential. Hope this explains... So what do you recommend as an FTP client? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4feba789.1090...@gmail.com
Re: free software mini pc
On 02/15/2012 11:01 AM, green wrote: So to recap my original post, the basic requirements are: - fanless mini PC - it will run Debian - production environment (reliability is important) - good Linux support to facilitate fast deployment and low maintenance, - avoiding non-free software (non-free firmware, out-of-tree kernel modules, ndiswrapper) and I mentioned also: - many devices with only partial mainline Linux support - unable to find itemized information about Linux kernel support - some devices ship with Linux (often Ubuntu) and use a custom kernel My original post did not mention this explicitly, but I would be pleased to find a manufacturer/vendor that is interested in supporting Linux users, and provides devices with 100% functionality using 100% free software. Perhaps that sounds a bit less demanding, while still being very closely related to the original. Somebody else mentioned Logic Supply - http://www.logicsupply.com/ - They do build-and-test with Ubuntu on some of their mini-ITX systems, and I don't think they'd be offering that service if things didn't work well: http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/ubuntu_linux_systems I bet if you called them they'd let you know in detail what they do in terms of testing a system with Ubuntu. You might want to ask if they'll build and test a system for you with Debian. Couldn't hurt to ask, and they might just do it. My uneducated look at the market now says that fanless Intel Atom is a better bet than ARM in terms of actually finding hardware you can load up and use. Eracks is another vendor than might work for you. Here is an Eracks Atom-based system that they'll ship with a variety of distros (not sure if it's fanless): http://eracks.com/products/Desktops/LEAF This fanless Eracks system ships with Ubuntu, but they say they'll do it with other OSes as well (and they offer them in the dropdowns for most of the boxes on their site): http://eracks.com/products/Shallow%20Depth/FLAT From what I can see, these smaller vendors (i.e. they're not Dell), especially those that specialize in Linux and BSD systems (like Eracks, ZaReason and System76) are willing to work with you to get you the right box, and they will be there to support you after the sale. But we all know that this is Linux (and/or BSD, if that's your pleasure), and it's hard to find guarantees in terms of one distro or other working with the hardware (and continuing to work years into the future). There's bound to be a degree of chance involved in purchasing hardware -- hell, I have computers that ship with Windows that can barely run it (and have terrible drivers), and I've had plenty of problems with an iMac that shipped with OS X 10.7. Accept that there may be some fiddling involved, and you'll be closer to getting this problem solved. Here is a ZaReason system that is not fanless, but is closer: http://zareason.com/shop/Ion-Breeze-5660.html The fanless requirement is tough, but I think something from Logic Supply will work for your use case. Might as well call/e-mail them and get some detailed answers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f4bc54c.7030...@gmail.com
Re: free software mini pc
On 02/17/2012 12:14 PM, green wrote: green wrote: The Fit-PC3 requires non-free fglrx for radeon hardware? Stefan Monnier wrote at 2012-02-17 10:10 -0600: No. The Free `radeon' driver should work just fine for those AMD Fusion GPUs. Hey, that is great news; thanks. I was not aware of the free radeon driver. I have found the support matrix page: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature and will do some more research on the Fit-PC3. After a very unsatisfactory few months using fglrx, I went back to the free radeon driver for my ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] chip. It's been working great for at least a year and a half. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f4bc75b.60...@gmail.com
Re: Bad news for Epson Perfection v330 - SOLVED
On 02/15/2012 02:29 PM, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 15 Feb 2012, Anthony Campbell wrote: Sorry to follow up to myself but I found a solution. The missing dependency was libltdl3, which is no longer available. But after more googling I found libltdl3_1.5.26-4+lenny1_i386.deb. This allows me to install iscan. Panic over - apologies for over-reaction. I have this same scanner, and I was surprised to find out that it wouldn't work out of the box with Debian Squeeze. I eventually found this same solution (using iscan), including grabbing libtld3 from the Lenny archive. It should be easier than this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f484896.6060...@gmail.com
Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:10:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 06 ian 12, 12:11:36, Camaleón wrote: Sure (this was also discussed in this same list, time ago...). The possibility of jumping from Lenny to Wheezy was oficially mentioned here: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg9.html And this announcement was not corrected nor modified afterwards (unless I missed something), so I managed the installation on my Lenny systems having in mind such statement which it finally turned out to be not possible :-) You probably missed http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00010.html , | In the light of these goals and also in consideration of the Debian | community's feedback to the release team's initial announcement during | the keynote of this year's DebConf in Caceres, Spain, the Release Team | has additionally decided to revisit its decision on December 2009 as the | proposed freeze date. A new timeline will be announced by the Debian | Release Team in early September. ` Yup, I did read it, but it does not say a word about the possibility of a direct jump (lenny → wheezy) nor if the first decission was going to be retired. The official upgrade process for Lenny to Squeeze was not as easy as a simple dist-upgrade, and I wonder if Lenny-to-Wheezy would be too difficult to work out. I can't imagine that those with Lenny aren't encouraged to go Lenny-Squeeze-Wheezy. Truth be told, I'd just do a reinstall of Wheezy when the time comes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3pmpqftasjuhbdu9ec7dh4o3wu1o2ytbitkyi_t0t-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Full Disk Encryption
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:15 PM, J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), but what makes me stop is the thinking of performance lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( i5 + 4 GB ) with full disk encryption and it is performing normal, haven't found any lag... I've been running Debian with encrypted LVM for a long time, from Lenny through Squeeze, and I don't detect any performance lag. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldrw3m99ez96e3yffp+gq2vzqbnkpto3-kg9pnrhujng28...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive yes*very* pretty. It's not all that. Ubuntu 11.10 and even GNOME 3 in Fedora look just as good (haven't seen GNOME 3 in Debian since I run Stable). Whether you like how Unity and GNOME Shell work is another thing, but they do look pretty good. It took GNOME Shell in Fedora a while to grow on me, but I'm beginning to appreciate the design more and more as time goes on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1322091350.15549.2.camel@lenovo
Re: iceweasel based on firefox 6.0 for squeeze
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter, On 25 September 2011 10:04, Peter Tenenbaum peter.g.tenenb...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to migrate to firefox 6.0, but I'd like to do it using the debian iceweasel distribution. Can anyone tell me how to go about setting that up? Try the following: http://mozilla.debian.net/ I used it and found it very helpful. I also use the Mozilla Debian APT archive in Stable for both Iceweasel and Icedove. This is exactly what I want: The stable base that works with my hardware plus newer versions of what for me are critical applications (web browser, mail client). I also have LibreOffice from Backports.
Re: [OT] advice re Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Disk Drive
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote: From: Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net Subject: Re: [OT] advice re Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Disk Drive To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 6:22 PM On Monday 26 September 2011 06:32:24 am Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hi, Lisi wrote: Is the Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Disk Drive worth the extra money over the Blue ranges? And would you recommend it? I don't want to cause myself complications with another dud drive. :-( Of all the options from WD, I would definitely go with the Black ones -- they have longer warranty and are a much safer bet. But as with all HDDs, they will fail one day you are much more likely to get longer service from a WD BLACK though. Here's a fair summary page: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/desktop/ NB: The warranty is longer for a good reason and you're likely to have larger cache on the drive as well. +1, all drives fail, having a longer warranty period usually means a better quality drive, but in real life, it just means that the vendor provides new drives for a while longer, if needed. I go by warranty period and try to Divine, somehow, the vendors service record. I have 5 Caviar black drives though not the one mentioned here. One of them failed earlier this year. One partition wouldn't mount due to some some bad blocks according to fsck. Fortunately it wasn't a critical one. It cost me $5 to send off to WD (after carefully wiping the drive) and I had a replacement within a few days. I had a WD Blue laptop drive that was running fine but was too small. I replaced with a larger WD Caviar Black. The drive failed within a week. I RMA'd it to WD, got a new drive in another week, and it's been smooth sailing since then -- no problems with the 320 GB WD Caviar Black. Like everybody who's used a lot of computers, I've had some drives go bad, others seemingly last forever. There's no substitute for good, frequent and multiple backups.
Re: OT - stitching together 2 pdf files
On 07/12/2011 09:59 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Me again. Maybe pdfshuffler might work as well. It was the tool, I used that time for my own purposes. I installed and used pdfshuffler a few weeks ago. It gets the job done. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e1c8bf4.70...@gmail.com
Re: (Solved) Re: Disabling GNOME loud beep at shutting down
On 07/08/2011 08:44 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:09:36 +, Camaleón wrote: Since some days I'm hearing a very (I mean very) loud beep when I shutdown (or was it when restarting?) GNOME in Wheezy. Is it possible to disable it? It's so loud that even hurts. I finally could solved it by reducing the beep volume level from gnome volume control applet so it seems coming from here (if I mute the beep I hear nothing at all but that's not what I want). It should be nice to completely disable that beep sound when restarting without disturbing the beep volume level, if someone has a clue, please tell :-) Greetings, This is how I dealt with the annoying system bell in Squeeze: With rootly powers I opened up /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and added this line: blacklist pcspkr That took care of the annoyingly loud beep that isn't the sort of thing you want to hear when others in the house are, say, sleeping. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e173fa2.5020...@gmail.com
Re: How do I start up services in Fvwm without killing Debian-created configuration
On 07/07/2011 06:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 07/07/11 at 06:11pm, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Hopkinswe.hopk...@gmail.comwrote: On 07/07/11 at 05:35pm, Steven Rosenberg wrote: Here's my problem: I generally run GNOME but want to run Fvwm on occasion. In Debian, the Fvwm configuration is auto-generated. If I create my own config file for Fvwm, all the menus generated by Debian go away. I want to start some services specifically in Fvwm, not in any (or every) other window manager. Where (and how) do I start services/daemons in Fvwm without disabling the Debian-generated Fvwm configuration? Can you give me an example of what you mean? Usually you use your .fvwm/config file and you can optionally source the system-wide stuff from there. When I create ~.fvwm/config, all the Debian menus go away. How can I have a config file AND the auto-generated configuration and menus from Debian ... AND preserve my config change when I log out and in again? [corrected top-posting] You include the debian menu in your local menu someplace, usually. Try: 'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' That sounds like a pretty good solution. I will give it a try. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e17450c.8070...@gmail.com
How do I start up services in Fvwm without killing Debian-created configuration
Here's my problem: I generally run GNOME but want to run Fvwm on occasion. In Debian, the Fvwm configuration is auto-generated. If I create my own config file for Fvwm, all the menus generated by Debian go away. I want to start some services specifically in Fvwm, not in any (or every) other window manager. Where (and how) do I start services/daemons in Fvwm without disabling the Debian-generated Fvwm configuration? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e1650db.6030...@gmail.com
Re: How do I start up services in Fvwm without killing Debian-created configuration
When I create ~.fvwm/config, all the Debian menus go away. How can I have a config file AND the auto-generated configuration and menus from Debian ... AND preserve my config change when I log out and in again? On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.comwrote: On 07/07/11 at 05:35pm, Steven Rosenberg wrote: Here's my problem: I generally run GNOME but want to run Fvwm on occasion. In Debian, the Fvwm configuration is auto-generated. If I create my own config file for Fvwm, all the menus generated by Debian go away. I want to start some services specifically in Fvwm, not in any (or every) other window manager. Where (and how) do I start services/daemons in Fvwm without disabling the Debian-generated Fvwm configuration? Can you give me an example of what you mean? Usually you use your .fvwm/config file and you can optionally source the system-wide stuff from there. -- Liam -- Steven Rosenberg Online Editor Daily News http://dailynews.com http://blogs.dailynews.com/click steven.rosenb...@dailynews.com 818-713-3752
Re: Copying a bootable CD
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.eduwrote: William Hopkins writes: $ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso bs=2048 conv=notrunc then burn the ISO using your tool of choice (wodim, etc.) This worked perfectly. Thank you. Interestingly, I tried the dd command with the parameters above and without and got the same bytes in the image both times. The CDR works flawlessly. I did this just the other day using Brasero. Worked perfectly.
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On 06/01/2011 04:07 PM, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? I'd stick with Squeeze in sources.list. That way you can upgrade to the next Stable release at your convenience. If you use stable instead of squeeze, your system will be less stable because the upgrade procedure is more complicated than changing sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade, and you could risk breakage when Stable switches from Squeeze to Wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de7e304.7040...@gmail.com
Re: Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better performance than Ubuntu
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: Hi all :) until now switching to Debian is worth the effort. The GNOME2 performance of Debian stable is much better than of Ubuntu. Pulse Audio is not installed by default :). What repositories should I use to set up a stable DAW? Btw. my list is attached. Is there a repository including JACK2 from svn? Until now it's an upgraded, minimal system, just a stable install, excepted of Evolution and dependencies, those are from testing. At 16:40 my RME HDSPe AIO, KORG NANOKONTROL, an ADAT device and some other stuff was delivered :), now, more than two hours later, neither the new gear is unpacked, nor Debian stable is set up as an audio/MIDI workstation. But the only really annoying thing is, that I had to reboot Ubuntu Natty, because I wasn't able to adopt the Evolution files for Debian's Evolution. Going through all of this just to move a user's Evolution files from one installation to another? There must be an easier way. (My way is to use IMAP and not to depend solely on Evolution).
Re: Speakers Do Not Mute with Headphones
On 05/07/2011 12:14 PM, Noah Duffy wrote: I just finished loading Debian 6.0 on my brand new Lenovo SL410. I love this computer and so far everything seems to have worked out of the box, however I am having one little issue: When I plug headphone into the computer, the main speakers do not mute. I had a similar issue with the Lenovo G555 (with Conexant 5069 sound chip), and while modifying /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf worked for me in Fedora 13 with 2.6.34, it only did so with an updated ALSA drivers package that provided version 1.0.23 of the drivers instead of the 1.0.21 in the kernel. I haven't been able to find this package in .deb -- If I understand this correctly, ALSA drivers are generally part of the kernel and are not available in a separate package (even though I was able to get such a package from a third-party repo for Fedora). Yep, even though I was running ALSA 1.0.23 at the time, it was with version 1.0.21 of the drivers in the kernel (again, if my understanding of the situation is correct). To see which version of the ALSA drivers my system was using, I ran: $ cat /proc/asound/version Output was Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21. It needs to be: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23. I solved this problem by upgrading to from the stock Squeeze 2.6.32 kernel to 2.6.37 (I'm using a Liquorix kernel, I'm pretty sure 2.6.38 in squeeze-backports will do this as well). Now I don't have to do anything to make sound work properly: Plugging in headphones mutes the speakers with no additional configuration necessary. So a newer kernel very well may solve this issue for you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dc9d1e3.1060...@gmail.com
Re: file systems
On 04/21/2011 12:14 PM, prad wrote: Stan Hoeppners...@hardwarefreak.com writes: prad put forth on 4/20/2011 11:43 PM: we want to run our servers through virtual box off usb drives which is a total departure from what we've done over the years. so might as well throw in a new fs too. :D Why USB? since our volume is pretty small we only require around 10G. the idea is to keep bkps on usb drives, so that if one fails, it's just a simple plug-in to get things going again. we were thinking that we avoid any possibility of hd failure/replacement this way and likely reduce power requirements too. This doesn't sound like a great idea. I'm not sure about USB speeds, but I wouldn't rely on this until you benchmark a traditionally connected SATA drive vs. USB 3. I've run systems booting off of USB 2, and performance is poor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4db5ec38.9000...@gmail.com
Re: Ubuntu Crossgrade
On 04/21/2011 03:14 AM, David Sanders wrote: Hello List, I'm just returning to Debian after a long absence over in Ubuntu land. The upcoming train-crash that is the Unity UI, and some over-political decision making in the community has led me to jump back to a more sensible and technology-led distro where, I hope, one man's pride isn't going to force horrid decisions on users. So, a small question - How suicidal is crossgrading back to Debian by altering my APT sources? I've seen a few blogs saying it works, and I do have a lot of customised stuff on my main laptop which I'd prefer not to have to recompile. I'm pretty technically-adept and don't mind fixing a few issues, but I'd just like to get any horror stories or otherwise that anyone has. To be honest, it sounds like you're looking for trouble. I would back up the data and then do a complete reinstall of Debian. Changing the sources would probably cause some packages to upgrade, and then you'd have custom-compiled packages that might not work as well (or at all). I personally would never do this. Reinstall, I say. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4db5f231.3020...@gmail.com
Re: New to Linux
On 04/15/2011 12:49 PM, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: FWIW: O'Reilly published a Special Edition book LEARNING DEBIAN GNU/LINUX (c. 1999). It was a very good introduction and step-by-step guide to installing and using Debian. I got it for free from the Debian booth at Las Vegas COMDEX 1999. This was the first year Linux had a major presence at COMDEX. Having the Linux people all in one exhibit hall greatly simplified my investigations of making the switch from the Amiga. I still have the book. However, ultimately, I chose Mandrake 7 as my first distro. Debian was not a distro for the noobie, either then or now. I wouldn't agree. I started with Debian being a complete noob and I manage somehow. Actually some of my first experiences were with compiling the kernel because the one bundled with stable (Lenny) didn't have the module for my wireless interface :). And I managed to get it to work then although I suppose the process must've looked funny. I wouldn't try that today though... Nowadays just about any distro is noob-friendly enough, perhaps excluding Gentoo and Slackware. KTB I did my first installation of Debian right when Etch came out in April 2007, and I had only been playing around with Knoppix, Puppy and Ubuntu for a couple of months before that. Debian isn't any harder for a noob than Ubuntu, and the more welcoming we are as current users of Debian to newer users, the better. -- Steven Rosenberg Life, the Universe and Debian http://debian.stevenrosenberg.net Click http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dacd026.9000...@gmail.com
Re: New to Linux
On 04/16/2011 11:05 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Actually, if a new user reads the contents of debian-reference before doing much else with Debian they'll solve that problem. The problem behind that is that debian-reference doesn't install by default on systems. A question like Are you new to Linux (y/n)? in the install script might not only install that package by default but also configure boot up sequence such that once all was finished booting the user would land inside the debian-reference application. I can't really predict what amount of pain would be reduced by such steps so am not recommending them unless testing gets done with a significant sample size of users new to Linux first. If follow up study shows these users progress faster on their learning curves, then I'd recommend making these modifications. The bsd system has a learn utility that teaches several topics once set up correctly using computer-assisted instruction and if that were ever successfully ported to Linux (maybe some on this list remember using it), that might also be a good utility to use to get more knowledge in areas where debian-reference is missing or goes lightly through. I know I certainly got lots from it back in late '80's and it's command line too. On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, shawn wilson wrote: On Apr 16, 2011 11:18 AM,foldingst...@theowned.org wrote: Like I said, A Lot has changed in 12 years. Debian is more friendly today than yesterday as are most distros, but there are others that are friendlier, a lot friendlier. So, I stand by my initial statement that Debian is not suitable for the Linux firsttimer. I would never recommend it to a noobie. With Debian, you need to know, at least somewhat, what you're doing. B I think if someone is capable of reading and comprehending the excellent documentation available, there should be no problem using Debian. This is how many people have learned. The debian documentation is among the best (along with gentoo and FreeBSD). That said, when I want to get something done this isn't the first place I look - I google and what I find there. I don't suppose I could consider myself 'new' anymore and it did take me a year to figure out how to find things on the net. I think that any distro that doesn't do quirky things is good for beginners (ie, sles having aliases and definitions for everything is just stupid). If a distro keeps its etc pretty standard, puts things in the right place in the directory tree, and has a good user base, it should be good to learn on. (the first and second reason are why I hate mandrake) There is also the issue of how you use linux. If you want a free OS that just works, you can install debian or ubuntu (or maybe fedora - idk) and most things should pretty much work. You can use this environment and that's great. However I don't think you really learn linux like this. Otoh, you can run mac or windows and just access linux through putty or terminal.app and get tons of experience. In the end, I suppose it just depends what you want to get out of it. Users in general, and unfortunately new users as well don't want to read the documentation before they jump right in. The installation of just about any Unix/Linux system goes better if you read the documentation first, and that is true of Debian. I've botched my share of upgrades when I didn't read the docs, and my last Lenny-to-Squeeze upgrade went very well only because I read the release notes and followed the instructions in them. Practicing installing the system and doing it a bunch of times also helps a lot. -- Steven Rosenberg Life, the Universe and Debian http://debian.stevenrosenberg.net Click http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dacd20f.2060...@gmail.com
Re: best labtop for debian
On 02/08/2011 10:47 PM, Bob wrote: I was liking the look of the G555 for my farther. Anyone tried one? on the plus side nice big screen, on the down its only 1366x768 I also like the full keyboard etc.. The integrated webcam is only VGA, but is there any real advantage to higher resolution webcams? I have a Lenovo G555. I bought it because it was cheap - about $329. For that money you're not getting a Thinkpad. Thinkpad is nowhere in the name, and that's for a reason. I sort of thought that I'd get some of the Thinkpad vibe with the G555, but that didn't really happen. It looks nice, the keyboard is great, the screen is short and wide like most laptops these days. The webcam is pretty awful. The Alps touchpad is REALLY awful. Windows users have it way worse than Linux users because the drivers in Windows 7 don't allow you to turn off tap to click like you can in most Linux distros. As a result, the cursor is erratic. You can totally turn off the touchpad on the G555 in any OS with Fn-F8. Yep, they have a key combination to completely turn off the touchpad but no way in their OS of choice, Windows 7, of turning off tap-to-click. So the experience in Debian Squeeze is way better than in Windows 7, I'll say that. There are 3 USB ports, which work great, But there's no Cardbus slot - I guess they're eliminating those in many laptops. It has nice memory-card slot that works well in Linux. There are sound-muting issues when you plug in headphones that are solved either with slight configuration changes, or in my case with Debian Squeeze by using the 2.6.37 Liquorix kernel. The wireless is pretty good. Both the wireless and wired Ethernet interfaces are Atheros, and it took awhile for most Linux and BSD system to catch up with the wired interface, which you should know is 10/100 mb and not gigabit speed. I really don't believe in spending $700+ for a laptop, but after using this bargain model for about eight months, I'd recommend spending $500-$600 for a theoretically better combination of hardware. There is a newer Lenovo for $499 that includes an Intel i3 CPU, more memory and a bigger hard drive. But I don't know if the other liabilities hardware-wise, especially the dodgy touchpad have been dealth with. The short version: Unless it says Thinkpad in the name, it's not a Thinkpad. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5eea19.8000...@gmail.com
Re: help
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:37:05AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20110131040038.GA3315@fischer, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 02:40:01PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: If you do an expert install you are offered the choice to disable root logins and use sudo instead. Yes, this is on Debian, squeeze installer. Oh! ok. Then again, expert does imply that you know what you are doing, which seems a bit backwards. I maintain that experts will be more likely to use sudo than su. It provides better granularity and helps avoid password sharing. A password shared is a password compromised. Right. But being the expert you probably won't be asking questions where the answer is something like sudo whatever But as is more likely someone asking for advice where the answer is sudo whatever are either not experts, and hence it wouldn't have been configured when they installed squeeze, and therefore the answer sudo whatever won't work, or, they are running Ubuntu where it would work BUT as we all know (all together now) Ubuntu is NOT Debian. Am I misunderstanding something? I'm pretty sure that Debian ships with sudo, or at least it did in my recent Squeeze desktop installation (late November 2010). Sudo wasn't configured (I ran visudo as root to set it up), but I didn't have to add the package (which I usually do in any Unix/Linux I use). I use OpenBSD as well, and it also ships with sudo (again, it needs to be configured by root with visudo). Whether you like or hate Ubuntu, it does get one in the habit of using sudo, and I've continued doing so on all my systems, not just those running Ubuntu (of which I still have one box).
Re: Backlight off or dimmed in Squeeze after upgrade
On 01/31/2011 11:30 PM, Remco Rijnders wrote: Hi, Yesterday I upgraded my Samsung netbook running Squeeze. I got all updates released for installed packages since last thursday. After this upgrade, my desktop in X looks very dark as if the backlight is not on or strongly dimmed. I do not recall making any changes to my setup that would have caused this other than upgrading those packages above. Unfortunately I have no idea where to start to fix this issue. Any pointers on where to look or commands to try? Thanks, Remco I've had the backlight fail on three laptops in the past year (I have a LOT of near-dead laptops; they don't last forever, that's for sure). It was hardware every time (two LCD inverters, one bad power brick). Are you sure it's software and not hardware failure? If so, what happens when you try to increase the backlight brightness in the settings? If you're running GNOME, you can adjust brightness via System - Preferences - Power Management with the Set Display Brightness to slider. Does that do anything? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d48782e.4030...@gmail.com
Re: Backlight off or dimmed in Squeeze after upgrade
On 02/01/2011 09:56 PM, Remco Rijnders wrote: On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 01:16:30PM -0800, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On 01/31/2011 11:30 PM, Remco Rijnders wrote: Hi, Yesterday I upgraded my Samsung netbook running Squeeze. I got all updates released for installed packages since last thursday. After this upgrade, my desktop in X looks very dark as if the backlight is not on or strongly dimmed. I do not recall making any changes to my setup that would have caused this other than upgrading those packages above. Unfortunately I have no idea where to start to fix this issue. Any pointers on where to look or commands to try? I've had the backlight fail on three laptops in the past year (I have a LOT of near-dead laptops; they don't last forever, that's for sure). It was hardware every time (two LCD inverters, one bad power brick). Are you sure it's software and not hardware failure? Hi Steven, Thanks for responding to my call for help. Pretty sure it's software... though it might be hardware related even when it's not hardware failure. The BIOS and Grub screen show in full brightness. That said, the problem is fixed for now. When I installed on monday night, I had my netbook at home and ran it withouth the adapter plugged in. While the backlight was on then, some sort of energy saving must have kicked in that turned the backlight off when I resumed it from sleep yesterday morning. I see no setting to control this anywhere and having googled further, this seems to be a common problem with Samsung netbooks. Some suggestions are offered, and I'll look into these next. Shutting the netbook down intsead of pausing or sleeping it is what did the trick in the end. When I booted back on with the power plugged in, the backlight was on again (pheew, I wouldn't like to have it die on me after just one month). If so, what happens when you try to increase the backlight brightness in the settings? If you're running GNOME, you can adjust brightness via System - Preferences - Power Management with the Set Display Brightness to slider. Does that do anything? Funny enough, I see no such slider and this might provide a clue in solving this issue permanently for me. Thanks again for your help and suggestions. Sincerely, Remco I've never had a laptop that did well enough with suspend/resume to rely on it in any way. I've had brightness problems with suspend/resume in Squeeze; I just avoid using that feature. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d48f2ce.5060...@gmail.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: Just for reference I gave up on icedove/thunderbird, it would simply sit, do nothing and fill up 38% of my 4Gb memory for downloading a folder of ~4000 messages. I gave up on firefox/iceweasel a couple of weeks ago for chromium for the exact same reason. I need to deal with a very dodgy IMAP server for one of my mail accounts, and I tried Icedove, Evolution and Claws in Debian Squeeze. I expected Claws to do the best, but Icedove seems to handle this terrible server better than the other two by far.
Re: Remove nvidia driver and reinstall nouveau
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Joe Riel j...@san.rr.com wrote: Is there a nice way to remove the nvidia driver and replace it with the nouveau driver (which was originally installed with Debian squeeze)? I tried modifying xorg.conf and removing /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-common.conf; that partially worked, however, glx didn't work because of the different kernel installed when nvidia was installed. I did this a number of times in Fedora recently. My method was: 1) remove package for proprietary driver 2) delete xorg.conf 3) reboot I could be wrong, but the Nouveau driver should still be there.
