Re: Package priority puzzlement
I hope the pointer to the matching priorities on the two different repositories was a helpful hint. -- The Wanderer Yes... i suppose that explains the behavior. Except this seems to mean that setting APT::Default-Release "stable" in apt.conf has no effect. Before my previous installation got corrupted, i had an /etc/apt/preferences file where i'd set the priorities for testing above sid above stable. Without that file, though, i don't see what effect the Default-Release is having. So i stuck some appropriate priorities in /etc/apt/preferences (stable above testing above sid) and it now behaves as i expect. *Except*... not when i use aptitude... only apt-get. Using aptitude (which i try to do exclusively) it behaves exactly the same way with or without: Explanation: This is a comment line Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 750 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 850 Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 900 Thanks for getting me past being fixed on thinking that specifying "stable" as the default release should do something. Now to figure out why aptitude seems to ignore this file. Also, yes, i usually use "shortcuts" for all those aptitude commands. And the package has a broken dependency (wrongly, it seems to me), because that's what the 'B' means in the flags output.
Package priority puzzlement
I just installed Bullseye after -- as a long-time Debian user -- having
had my hard drive corrupted by USB devices.
I used to run testing, so i thought i would get there, but first i
wanted to install the apps i wanted, get things working, and then
migrate to testing.
During the install, i also enabled security-updates. In fact, i added
both sid and testing to my sources.list (after booting into new install).
I'm seeing some strange behavior which i cannot figure out when i go to
upgrade or add packages... best demonstrated by the particular cases i
am puzzling over.
First:
cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Default-Release "stable";
And there are 9 pre-installed scripts in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d that i
don't believe are relevant to any of this.
So, when i do: "aptitude safe-upgrade":
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libbotan-2-18{a} libidn12{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libbotan-2-17{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
libgs9 libgs9-common libperl5.32 libssh-gcrypt-4 openssl perl perl-base
perl-modules-5.32 thunderbird
9 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 13.0 MB/57.1 MB of archives. After unpacking 252 kB will
be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
# aptitude why libidn12
i gimp Depends libgs9 (>= 8.61.dfsg.1)
p A libgs9 Depends libidn12 (>= 1.13)
# apt-cache policy libgs9
libgs9:
Installed: 9.53.3~dfsg-7+deb11u1
Candidate: 9.53.3~dfsg-8
Version table:
9.53.3~dfsg-8 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
*** 9.53.3~dfsg-7+deb11u1 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security
bullseye-security/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
9.53.3~dfsg-7+b1 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
9.53.3~dfsg-7 990
990 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages
# apt-cache policy gimp
gimp:
Installed: 2.10.22-4
Candidate: 2.10.22-4
Version table:
2.10.26-1 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
*** 2.10.22-4 990
990 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
# apt-cache show libgs9|egrep 'Version|libidn'
Version: 9.53.3~dfsg-8
Depends: libgs9-common (= 9.53.3~dfsg-8), poppler-data, libc6 (>=
2.29), libcups2 (>= 2.3~b6), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6), libfreetype6
(>= 2.10.1), *libidn12* (>= 1.13), libijs-0.35 (>= 0.35), libjbig2dec0
(>= 0.16+20190905), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), liblcms2-2 (>= 2.6),
libopenjp2-7 (>= 2.0.0), libpaper1, libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libtiff5
(>= 4.0.3), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0)
Version: 9.53.3~dfsg-7+deb11u1
Depends: libgs9-common (= 9.53.3~dfsg-7+deb11u1), poppler-data, libc6
(>= 2.29), libcups2 (>= 2.3~b6), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6),
libfreetype6 (>= 2.10.1), *libidn11* (>= 1.13), libijs-0.35 (>= 0.35),
libjbig2dec0 (>= 0.16+20190905), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1),
liblcms2-2 (>= 2.6), libopenjp2-7 (>= 2.0.0), libpaper1, libpng16-16
(>= 1.6.2-1), libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0)
Version: 9.53.3~dfsg-7+b1
Depends: libgs9-common (= 9.53.3~dfsg-7), poppler-data, libc6 (>=
2.29), libcups2 (>= 2.3~b6), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6), libfreetype6
(>= 2.10.1), *libidn12* (>= 1.13), libijs-0.35 (>= 0.35), libjbig2dec0
(>= 0.16+20190905), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), liblcms2-2 (>= 2.6),
libopenjp2-7 (>= 2.0.0), libpaper1, libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libtiff5
(>= 4.0.3), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0)
Version: 9.53.3~dfsg-7
Depends: libgs9-common (= 9.53.3~dfsg-7), poppler-data, libc6 (>=
2.29), libcups2 (>= 2.3~b6), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6), libfreetype6
(>= 2.10.1), *libidn11* (>= 1.13), libijs-0.35 (>= 0.35), libjbig2dec0
(>= 0.16+20190905), libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1.3.1), liblcms2-2 (>= 2.6),
libopenjp2-7 (>= 2.0.0), libpaper1, libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libtiff5
(>= 4.0.3), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0)
dpkg -l 'libidn1*'|grep '^i'
ii libidn11:amd64 1.33-3 amd64 GNU Libidn library,
implementation of IETF IDN specifications
So, libidn11 is currently installed as a dependency of libgs9 from the
security source. But it wants to install libidn12, because it's going
to install libgs9 from sid!
The other package it wanted to "upgrade" shows a similar issue:
# why libbotan-2-18
___
aptitude why...
i lxde Suggests libreoffice
p libreoffice Suggests firefox-esr | thunderbird | firefox
p thunderbird Depends libbotan-2-18 (>= 2.18.1+dfsg)
# why libbotan-2-17
___
aptitude why...
iB thunderbird Depends libbotan-2-17 (>= 2.17.3+dfsg)
Why is this broken? I installed thunderbird from testing, it was
broken, reinstalled what had been originally installed, from security...
all broken.
It *works* perfectly fine.
# apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
Installed: 1:78.14.0-1~deb11u1
Re: scripting
martin f krafft wrote: [snip] ... to get into scripting, i suggest you play around with bash scripts and learn all the tools that come with UNIX, such as: sed, tr, cut, grep, cat, tac, sort, uniq to name just a few. then you might want to start looking at awk, or you might want to head for perl, which is the ultimate scripting language. I can't let calling perl the ultimate scripting language pass without comment. In fact, imo, both python and ruby are better (although if you really need an enormous library of stuff like CPAN, then perl does beat out the others there). But if you don't need that mass of thousands of support modules for virtually anything you might want to do (without having to code it yourself) then you might want to check out ruby, a very neat scripting language, and maybe a better starting point for a beginner to learn some more advanced stuff, like object-oriented programming... which is a syntactic headache in perl. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on Walmart's systemless computers
Elizabeth Barham writes: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:11:38PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: But then again, do you *really* want to buy a computer from the evil empire? snip But there might be a warranty - if the hard disk drive crashes or gives you any problems within 90 days (I'm guessing) take it back and walk out with a brand new machine. I just looked at the Athalon machine for $498 and I think it's a pretty good deal, especially if a warranty is involed. Even if you build one from scratch the pricing is about the same. I recently priced components for a new system and it ended up being about $500 without monitor. It would make a nice server. Elizabeth Plus you'll be giving a job to some teenager in a Maquiladora or some slave-laborer in China and be putting a big $2 / week in their pocket (the former only) with which to buy some beans for their family to eat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: vm vs mutt (was Re: Someone tell me the secret of mutt)
David Turetsky writes: Mutt is great. Read enough of the handbook or info to get started, then add to your knowledge as situations require. I started using it a year or two ago and find it a real treat -- David I just recently dumped Netscape mail in favor of vm (in emacs). I'm a _long_ time emacs user and although i've heard a lot of good things about mutt, when i was trying to figure out what to replace Netscape mail with, i decided upon vm because i'd also heard good things about it and i could see a lot of benefits from reading my mail from within emacs where i have available all the editing capabilities that i've spent so many years mastering. So i've been using vm for a few weeks and . . . it's not bad. The benefits because of the vm/emacs connection are definitely valid. But i'd probably give vm itself only a B. I'm sure there's a lot more i can do in terms of customizing it (i _hate_ the fact that i can't delete a message until it's been opened ... which when its an html message is _way_ too slow, because it insists on rendering the html before it will make that message the current message so that it can then be deleted). The slowness of its rendering of html is a big strike against it, i guess (any part of vm coded in elisp probably isn't going to win any prizes for speed) , although text-only is pretty much all i need or want (just unsubscribed from an mp3 user group because over half the traffic was either html, gibberish to my mailer or both... and that without ever complaining to anyone about it... construe that for good or ill as you will). So, i'm wondering if anyone has any experience with mutt and vm on which to base a comparison. My reticence in not trying mutt earlier is the idea that i have to then go _into_ an editor to do stuff that i frequently do (not only reply but also snip bits and pieces out for saving). My editor is emacs. I don't want to use anything else and i can't quite comprehend how mutt and emacs could integrate very well. One last thing. With vm, yesterday, it progressively became unable to get mail from my ISP's pop server (unknown name or service error). It failed sporadically, then finally ceased to be able to retrieve mail at all (error occurring every attempt). I even called up my ISP but what fixed it was _restarting_ emacs. A! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How is my network-card module getting loaded?
I've been running a 2.2.19 kernel for a while (every brief foray into 2.4 land caused me to immediately go back to 2.2). Once again, i'm giving it a try, though (2.4.18). I booted into it and there's no module loaded for my network card (which i didn't even remember what it was). So, while in 2.4, i looked around my 2.2 configuration for some sign of what i was loading there and couldn't find anything. Reboot back into 2.2.19, do an lsmod and i see 'via-rhine'. No idea what is loading it though (it doesn't appear in /etc/modutils). I've grepped everything in /etc/modutils and all the rc#.d directories and i can't find a clue as to how that module is getting loaded. How?? (I've got mostly a woody/sid system). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.1.0-15 broke my display
Anthony DeRobertis writes: On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 04:19 PM, Craig Duncan wrote: Jeffrey W. Baker writes: Well, I use apt-get clean on occasion. The -14 release of XFree86 was several months ago. Would be nice if there was apt-get clean-except-last-version i supposed. apt-get autoclean unless the manpage lies, that is not what autoclean does. Manpage says it erases debs that are not downloadable anymore (not in Packages.gz, I suppose) Sorry. My mistake. You're right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.1.0-15 broke my display
Jeffrey W. Baker writes: Well, I use apt-get clean on occasion. The -14 release of XFree86 was several months ago. Would be nice if there was apt-get clean-except-last-version i supposed. apt-get autoclean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86 4.1.0-15 broke my display
Jeffrey W. Baker writes: Well, I use apt-get clean on occasion. The -14 release of XFree86 was several months ago. Would be nice if there was apt-get clean-except-last-version i supposed. apt-get autoclean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: atx shutdown
I'm running into some problems trying to get an ATX box to really shut off during a shutdown. Originally with 2.2.19 2.4.10, it would reboot with 'shutdown -h now' command. Odd and irritating. I built a new kernel with 2.4.17 and now I can get it to actually halt and not reboot, but it doesn't send the ATX the command to shut off the power. Windows however is working fine on the same box. Do you have the following in your lilo.conf? append=apm=on
Re: atx shutdown
You need to have APM support in the kernel or loaded as a module before there could be any hope of enabling it. The kernel option to enable APM at boot sounds like it does the same thing as the lilo line. Try it and see if it works. :-) craig Do you have the following in your lilo.conf? craig append=apm=on Is that necessary of APM is built into the kernel vs built as a module ? Also there is an option during kernel build process about enabling APM at boot, is that the same thing ? It's amazing how common this problem is... Brian
BSD inet services?
I want to enable rlogin/rcp etc on a debian box i have running woody/2.2.19. This should be very easy, thinks i, but going to inetd.conf i find: #:BSD: Shell, login, exec and talk are BSD protocols. and that is all. I make my way to the man pages on update-inetd and see that i could (although i haven't tried it) do an: update-inetd --add ENTRY Is manually adding an entry for e.g. rlogin what i need to do? Doesn't seem very convenient (out of the box).
Re: BSD inet services?
I wonder what you'd find if you looked in your current /etc/inetd.conf? What you describe is what i expected to do except my inetd.conf _has_ no lines for that stuff anymore. It's been removed. All that's there is the #:BSD: line i mentioned. I know this #: notation allows the line to be uncommented by a tool automatically so i was thinking that maybe there's another file that provides the BSD-specific services. I couldn't find anything like that, though. Frederico.S.Muñoz wrote: I want to enable rlogin/rcp etc on a debian box i have running woody/2.2.19. This should be very easy, thinks i, but going to inetd.conf i find: #:BSD: Shell, login, exec and talk are BSD protocols. and that is all. I make my way to the man pages on update-inetd and see that i could (although i haven't tried it) do an: update-inetd --add ENTRY Is manually adding an entry for e.g. rlogin what i need to do? Doesn't seem very convenient (out of the box). I'm may be totally lost here but IIRC last time I needed rsh-like services I simply uncommented the entries in inetd.onf and installed rshd (also be advised that the rcp in Debian is more than likely a link to scp...); the rsh deamon was started and added to the init logins by the package scripts and after that I only needed to edit /etc/hosts.equiv for my full insecure r-services frenzy. I probably didn't understood your doubt though, so feel free to ignore this message :) cheers, fsm -- Frederico S. Muñoz Cap Gemini Ernst Young : [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIES : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Project: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ever noticed something? Unix comes with compilers. Windows comes with Solitaire. ** -Adep
Re: BSD inet services?
I already have rsh-client package installed, which provides rsh, rcp rlogin. That's a thought, though. I'll take a look at the postinstall script and see if reconfiguring is all that's needed. Frederico.S.Muñoz wrote: -Original Message- From: craig duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: segunda-feira, 26 de Novembro de 2001 16:05 To: Frederico.S.Muñoz; debian-user Subject: Re: BSD inet services? I wonder what you'd find if you looked in your current /etc/inetd.conf? What you describe is what i expected to do except my inetd.conf _has_ no lines for that stuff anymore. It's been removed. All that's there is the #:BSD: line i mentioned. I know this #: notation allows the line to be uncommented by a tool automatically so i was thinking that maybe there's another file that provides the BSD-specific services. I couldn't find anything like that, though. Oh, sorry, I didn't understood that that was the only line there :) I would instalar the package that contains rsh (rlogind or something like that IIRC). It's highly likely that it willl run the script for you with the correct arguments. cheers, fsm -- Frederico S. Muñoz Cap Gemini Ernst Young : [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIES : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Project: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ever noticed something? Unix comes with compilers. Windows comes with Solitaire. ** -Adep
Re: BSD inet services?
Exactly right (i got confused). I don't have rsh-server installed. I do have ssh-nonfree installed, though. I installed that quite a while ago and then it seems like ssh stuff got removed from the distribution i had installed then. Can someone provide a synopsis of what the story with ssh was, where it stands now, and what the best debianized ssh package to use is? Also, does any ssh version have the capability of falling-back to rlogin compatibility? (I doubt it but it would be nice. . . and potentially insecure of course). My main quandary is that i'm working on an internal network where i don't at all need ssh. Sometimes (when going external), i do, though. Frederico.S.Muñoz wrote: -- -Original Message- From: craig duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: segunda-feira, 26 de Novembro de 2001 16:15 To: Frederico.S.Muñoz Cc: debian-user Subject: Re: BSD inet services? I already have rsh-client package installed, which provides rsh, rcp rlogin. That's a thought, though. I'll take a look at the postinstall script and see if reconfiguring is all that's needed. Well... if you only need the clients in that box than there is no need for further configuration; only if you need to allow r-services from other boxes to that one will you need the rlogin server (and the apropriate entries in init and inetd.conf created by the script) cheers,
