Big problem computer not booting
I run Debian stretch on MacBook Air I did a restore backup from previous system[debian Jessie ] Now machine is not booting upon boot the machine gives the normal GRUB menu: Debian GNU/Linux Advanced options for Debian GNU/linux Click the 1st one saying Loading etc Loading initial ram disk then a list of checks [ 0.049346] DMAR-IR:[Firmware Bug] : ioapic 2 has no mappin iommu, interrupt remapping will be disabled /dev/sda2: clean, 348430/7118848 files, 7186186/28466432 blocks [ 3.895353] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found [ 3.895361] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write trhough [FAILED] Failed to start Network Manager Wait Online. See 'systemctl status NetwrokManager-wait-online.service' for details. then a list of things starting all [OK] and then nothing happens Switching the machine off and re-starting it into the advance option i get some root access and i see al my files.I am not able to connect to the internet When trying to do something like apt-get update the system returns that a shared library libapt-pkg.so.4.12 is not installed. but I have no internet access so I cannot either find the lib or install it. And so I cannot update the system and it feels like a catch 22 I could really do with some help -- kelsang sherab she...@fastmail.com
Macbook Air - Stretch - getting rather hot
The last few days my machine seems to be getting hot more than usual - any suggestion of what can i do? cheers -Computer- Processor : 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3317U CPU @ 1.70GHz Memory : 3955MB (1589MB used) Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 9.1 User Name : sherab Date/Time : Tue 08 Aug 2017 12:41:28 BST -Display- Resolution : 1366x768 pixels OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation -Multimedia- Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH -Input Devices- Lid Switch Power Button Sleep Button Power Button PC Speaker FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in) Video Bus bcm5974 Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad lircd-uinput HDA Intel PCH Headphone HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm : 3= HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm : 7= HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm : 8= Microsoft Wedge Mobile Keyboard -Printers- No printers found
alt ctrl T terminal not opening
Here's info about my system -Version- Kernel : Linux 4.9.0-3-amd64 (x86_64) Compiled: #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u2 (2017-06-26) C Library : Unknown Default C Compiler : GNU C Compiler version 6.3.0 20170516 (Debian 6.3.0-18) Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux 9.0 -Current Session- Computer Name : xxx User Name : sherab Home Directory : /home/sherab Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: GNOME Shell) -Misc- Uptime : 6 hours, 52 minutes Load Average: 0.13, 0.22, 0.24 I've tried the Tweak tool - couldnt find anything there Tried the Keyboard - managed to find a list of things that already have shortcuts assigned too but no option of opening terminal. most peculiar Hopefully this is enough to go on for those willing to help cheers
alt ctrl T - terminal not opening
Using Stretch with GNOME 3 I am unable to add shortcut to open terminal. suggestions are welcomed.
Make menuconfig errors
Hi there, I've just installed Etch from netinstall CD and I want to compile a custom build kernel, but I get the following errors. What am I doing wrong? I've the kernel source 2.6.18, libncures5-dev, kernel-package, fakeroot, debhelper installed. I am running the command in a root terminal. debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/conf.o HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/kxgettext.o HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/mconf.o SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.c SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/lex.zconf.c SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.hash.c HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/mconf HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o In file included from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:24: scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:31:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory In file included from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:24: scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:128: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'use_colors' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:129: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'use_shadow' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:131: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'attributes' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:143: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:146: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:147: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:148: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:149: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:151: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:31: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:59: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:95: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c: In function 'dialog_checklist': scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:117: error: 'WINDOW' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:117: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:117: error: for each function it appears in.) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:117: error: 'dialog' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:117: error: 'list' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:117: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:121: warning: implicit declaration of function 'endwin' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:122: warning: implicit declaration of function 'fprintf' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:122: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'fprintf' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:122: error: 'stderr' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:140: error: 'COLS' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:141: error: 'LINES' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:143: warning: implicit declaration of function 'draw_shadow' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:143: error: 'stdscr' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:145: warning: implicit declaration of function 'newwin' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:146: warning: implicit declaration of function 'keypad' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:146: error: 'TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:148: warning: implicit declaration of function 'draw_box' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:148: error: 'attributes' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:149: warning: implicit declaration of function 'wattrset' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:150: warning: implicit declaration of function 'mvwaddch' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:152: warning: implicit declaration of function 'waddch' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:156: warning: implicit declaration of function 'print_title' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:159: warning: implicit declaration of function 'print_autowrap' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:166: warning: implicit declaration of function 'subwin' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:191: warning: implicit declaration of function 'print_item' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:197: warning: implicit declaration of function 'print_arrows' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:200: warning: implicit declaration of function 'print_buttons' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:202: warning: implicit declaration of function 'wnoutrefresh' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:204: warning: implicit declaration of function 'doupdate' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:207:
gcc howto
Hi, My aim is to have a Debian system running gcc 3.0.4 and libc6 2.2.5 with kernel 2.4.18. (Was running potato r0 gcc 2.95.2 libc 2.1.3) First I've done the update by apt-get. Then I have manually compiled (against libc6-2.1.3) and installed gcc 3.0.4 with default directory (--prefix=/usr/local) and meet the requirements for a 2.4.18 kernel. Kernel was then upgraded to 2.4.18 Now I also compile and installed glibc-2.2.5 from tarball and installed by make install which puts them to /usr/local/lib and run ldconfig. When I try to re-compile gcc 3.0.4 against libc6 2.2.5, gcc refuses to run. How to get them work together ? Thanks. -- = (Optional) If you say Om Ma Ne Pad Mei Hung , The Avalokiteshvara Buddha blesses you. For more info on Buddhism please visit http://victorian.fortunecity.com/holbein/272/ = __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Blaster 16 PnP
Hi, Apart from alsa-config you need alsa-driver-0.5.10b.tar.bz2 alsa-lib-0.5.10b.tar.bz2 alsa-utils-0.5.10.tar.bz2 and install them in the same order. check out the ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/ for newer versions. regards, sherab On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 06:32:07PM -0700, Reza wrote: Hi anyone... I wonder if anyone would help me with my soundcard problem.. I use Sound Blaster 16 Pnp which is in ISA Slot, my friend told me to use ALSA instead of OSS, can anyone tell what packages do I need to install ALSA besides alsaconf ? Thank you very much Sincerely, Reza __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
Hi Vester, To use alsa-sound you don't need to configure the oss either as module or build-in while you build your kernel image. It was documented in the alsa-driver-0.5.10b.tar.bz2 package. Just configure the sound support in module or build-in, then compile your kernel as usual. If oss was build as module there will be a soundcore.o file in your /lib/modules/... directory. I don't know whether this helps or not. I am scared to provide infos', since I am still a newbie. yours, Sherab i'm using a vaio notebook with a yamaha ymf-754 soundcard on debian/testing. i compiled the kernel with CONFIG_SOUND CONFIG_SOUND_OSS and CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI as modules (i know that the last one is the correct module for my soundcard, because it worked with my old suse system) and succesfully loaded the modules -- however i didn't hear sound with xmms since i used alsa drivers in my old suse configuration i apt-get installed alsaconf...but alsa doesn't detect my soundcard automatically, so i selected it myself which didn't work either. the alsa script gives me the following output: Starting ALSA sound driver (version none):modprobe: Can't locate module snd no driver installed what can i do to make sound work? i don't particularly need to use alsa -- i just want to have the soundcard working anyway i can! thanks! vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Advertise with ZFREE - to find out more click below http://www.zfree.co.nz/about-us/advert.html
Re: how to recover damaged tar files?
For a file ending with tar use tar -xvf filename.tar gz use tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz bz2 use tar -xvIf filename.tar.bz2 the -p option can be used before f as well, such as tar -xvIpf filename.tar.bz2 Regards Sherab Erik Alvarez wrote: Hi, when trying to decompress a tar file I get this error. Can someone tell if there is a way to fix it or is the file lost? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -ixvf backup.tar Why the -i option ? Normally extracting a tar file can be done without it. I dont see why it should cause problems, but you might want to try without it. Happy Hacking, \Gandalf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Advertise with ZFREE - to find out more click below http://www.zfree.co.nz/about-us/advert.html
Make check error: binutils-2.11
Hi,
I am preparing to upgrade to glibc-2.2.2, so I compiled the binutils-2.11 from
source
with the following command;
../binutils-2.11/configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-gnu-ld
--with-included-gettext --mandir=/usr/share
make
make check
Part of the errors are:
...
EXPECT=expect ; export EXPECT ; \
if [ -f ./../expect/expect ]; then \
TCL_LIBRARY=`cd ../../binutils-2.11/gas/../tcl/library pwd`; \
export TCL_LIBRARY; \
fi; \
runtest=runtest; \
cd testsuite; \
if /bin/sh -c $runtest --version /dev/null 21; then \
$runtest --tool gas --srcdir ${srcdir}/testsuite \
; \
else echo WARNING: could not find \`runtest' 12; :;\
fi
WARNING: Couldn't find tool init file
Test Run By root on Tue May 22 04:35:11 2001
Native configuration is i586-pc-linux-gnu
=== gas tests ===
...
...
WARNING: Couldn't find tool init file
Test Run By root on Tue May 22 04:35:26 2001
Native configuration is i586-pc-linux-gnu
=== ld tests ===
...
...
# of expected passes94
# of unexpected failures1
# of expected failures 11
/home/alan/src/binutils-build/ld/ld-new 2.11
make[3]: *** [check-DEJAGNU] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/alan/src/binutils-build/ld'
make[2]: *** [check-am] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/alan/src/binutils-build/ld'
make[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/alan/src/binutils-build/ld'
make: *** [check-ld] Error 2
My system is Debian 2.2r3 with
gcc-2.95.2
glibc-2.1.13
x-windows 4.0.2
kernel 2.2.18
binutils-2.9.5
expect5.31_5.31.8-3_i386.deb and
dejagnu_1.3-19990614-4_all.deb installed by apt-get
Any ideas please ?
Sherab
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Re: Compiling mc-4.5.44 [no:command not found]
Hi Fracesco, Thanks for your reply. No you are not wrong, according to another source of email message posted on : http://www.gnome.org:65348/mc/maillist/100-07/ 14175.964261019.332231733.html It also mentions about gettext. Then I checked my system, there is no gettext installed. So I installed gettext-0.10.35 and re-configured mc-4.5.44, make yields no error this time and finally installed mc. Thanks for your help. BTW, the old config.log do not mention about msgfmt but an error to xpm.h which is concerning X windows. I havn't installed that package yet. Cheers. Alan Francesco Bochicchio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 02:34:29AM -0700, Sherab Puntsok wrote: Hi debs, I have a problem on compiling mc-4.5.44.tar.gz no: command not found Details: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/download/mc-4.5.44/po' file=./`echo nl | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ rm -f $file PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file nl.po make[1]:***[nl.gmo]Error 127 I've tried dpkg -S no, but couldn't find it. Any hints appreciated. Thank you. Alan From a quick look to my version of the Makefile ( mc-4.5.50/po/Makefile ), I believe that the rule which failed is : .po.gmo: file=$(srcdir)/`echo $* | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ rm -f $$file $(GMSGFMT) -o $$file $ In the same Makefile, the variable GMSGFMT was set as follows : GMSGFMT = PATH=../src:$$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt From the little I know, I understand your system is missing 'msgfmt'. 'no' is probably the substitution string taht 'configure' used when it didn't find this program ( the configure script should have failed; check your config.log if you still have it ) Finally, dpkg -S msgfmt says : MyDesktop:~$ dpkg -S msgfmt gettext: /usr/bin/msgfmt So, try intalling gettext package and compiling again. Of course, if you have it already, I'm completely wrong :-) -- FB -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null = (Optional) If you say Om Ma Ne Pad Mei Hung , The Avalokiteshvara Buddha blesses you. For more info on Buddhism please visit http://victorian.fortunecity.com/holbein/272/ = Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Compiling mc-4.5.44 [no:command not found]
Hi debs, I have a problem on compiling mc-4.5.44.tar.gz no: command not found Details: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/download/mc-4.5.44/po' file=./`echo nl | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ rm -f $file PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file nl.po make[1]:***[nl.gmo]Error 127 I've tried dpkg -S no, but couldn't find it. Any hints appreciated. Thank you. Alan = (Optional) If you say Om Ma Ne Pad Mei Hung , The Avalokiteshvara Buddha blesses you. For more info on Buddhism please visit http://victorian.fortunecity.com/holbein/272/ = Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
For general information on kernel visit http://linuxdoc.org/ For articles about kernel visit Taking the Plunge: Compiling the Kernel http://www.linux.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=60aid-8841 Compiling the Kernel: Part 2 http://www.linux.com/firststep/newsitem.phtml?sid=60aid=8931 Kernel Basics http://www.linuxpapers.org/print_article.html?KERNEL_BASICS Quest for a Leaner and Meaner Kernel http://www.linuxcare.com/viewpoints/tales/04-12-00.epl Alan Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that under Windows or whatever I don't have to recompile the kernel just to add a new driver? Is it a protection thing? Or an optimization thing? Or something else? -chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null = (Optional) If you say Om Ma Ne Pad Mei Hung , The Avalokiteshvara Buddha blesses you. For more info on Buddhism please visit http://victorian.fortunecity.com/holbein/272/ = Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
compiling teTeX-src-1.0.7
Hi, I am building my own linux based on Debian 2.1 Now I come across to install gpm-1.19.0. Gpm requires tex, so I get the teTeX-src-1.0.7.tar.gz and teTeX-texmf-1.0.2.tar.gz. The ./configure goes ok but errors in make world as follows: make[2]: Entering directory `/home/download/src/teTeX-1.0/texk/web2c' cd window make x_cppflags='' -w CC='gcc' CFLAGS='-g -O2 ' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/download/src/teTeX-1.0/texk/web2c/window' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I.. -I./.. -g -O2 -c x11.c x11.c:19: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory x11.c:20: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory x11.c:21: X11/StringDefs.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [x11.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/download/src/teTeX-1.0/texk/web2c/window' make[2]: *** [window/window.a] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/download/src/teTeX-1.0/texk/web2c' make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/download/src/teTeX-1.0/texk' make: *** [all] Error 1 Where do I get the xlib.h, intrinsic.h, and stringdefs.h files ? Please help. Thanks in advance. Alan = (Optional) If you say Om Ma Ne Pad Mei Hung , The Avalokiteshvara Buddha blesses you. For more info on Buddhism please visit http://victorian.fortunecity.com/holbein/272/ = Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ---BeginMessage--- Damon Muller wrote: Quoth Ed Cogburn, The registration is a PITA, and they provide no help when an internet connection goes bad, you have to start the download all over again. They don't allow ftp access which would have allowed me to resume the download. The only other option was special plugins for IE/Netscape browsers, but only Windoze versions. I had to download the thing using the multiple files: 10 megabytes at a time. I have seen SO52 on at least one mirror FTP site (mirror.aarnet.edu.au, which, I believe, is only accessably to .au's), so there is a good possibility that you'll also find it on others. This lets you avoid registration (hey, it's free anyway), and also may allow you to resume. From where I am, your URL is nonexistant. I'm surprised Sun would allow mirrors, as it clearly wants all users to go through the registration process to get all that customer info. Sun never mentions any mirrors on their site. That mirror in .au may be unoffical 8-). Ahh, doesn't matter now anyway. Thanks. -- It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire Ed C. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ---End Message---
Re: [Re: StarOffice 5.1a]
Hi, Many thanks to Eric G. Miller and Karsten M.Self for your lightning reply. Thank you. Alan Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [Re: gIDE make error]
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thanks very much for your kind informative link to code-crusader. I've visited the site and found the powerfull features it provides. Then I downloaded and installed it. But more questions are coming. 1. From ftp://ftp.its.caltech.edu/pub/jafl/programs/jcc/Linux-Intel it advices to do a ls -l /lib/libc* if I don't know which version of glibc I've installed. Here is my libc* result /lib/libc-2.0.7.so /lib/libc.so.5 - libc.so.5.4.46 /lib/libc.so.5.4.46 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.0.7.so /lib/libcom_err.so.2 - libcom_err.so.2.0 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 /lib/libcrypt-2.0.7.so /lib/libcrypt.so.1 - libcrypt-2.0.7.so Which of the above libc is referring to glibc 2.0 or 2.1 or none ? So, I haven't installed the Linux-Intel_glibc_kit as adviced. 2. When I bring up the xterm in X-windows and typed jcc as root jcc said: Assertion failed: its Stream - good() code/JFileArray.cc:267 Aborted. When I read the FAQ.gz that comes with code-crusader, it saids delete the file ~/.jxcb.pref The problem is I can't find the file. Where is it ? Your help is much appreciated. Thank you. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also been trying to get gIDE to work. But, no luck! It still seems to be in alpha stage... If you want a development system with graphical support (IDE). Then, take a look at Code Crusader http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc/ I know that this doesn't solve your problem. But, I have been feed up with gIDE! Try Code Crusader instead. The author of Code Crusader has been inspired of Metrowerks Code Warrior (www.metrowerks.com). And, Metrowerks has released Code Warrior for Linux as well. But, Code Crusader is more close to a final product. Check it out! Christian Ericsson At 17:07 1999-05-25 +1200, you wrote: Hi all, I have installed the necessary files for gIDE-0.1.1 (they are glib-1.2.0, gtk+1.2.0 and guile-1.3). When I go to make, it compliants about cd . aclocal -I macros aclocal : configure.in: 9: macro 'AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library make: ***[aclocal.m4] Error 1 What does that mean ? Any pointers ? or links to FAQ about gIDE ? Thanks. Alan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
