Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread deloptes
stalled WIN98 system ? >> >> If the goal is just to experiment then you could run an older version of >> debian. (I think there's not enough memory for the current install >> routine.) OpenBSD or NetBSD or a linux distribution oriented toward >> small systems would run. Nothi

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread Davide Lombardo
e Files for every Locale in the World! It > took a while to clean this up! > > > On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Davide Lombardo wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 13:17:33 > > > From: Davide Lombardo > > > To: Debian-user List Debian > > > Subject: Very old hard

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread Davide Lombardo
On Friday, 3 July 2020 20:01:50 CEST Christian Groessler wrote: > 3000 Lire? > > Did you mean 3.000,000 Lire? > > regards, > chris > > On 2020-07-03 19:17, Davide Lombardo wrote: > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > > DRAM: 64 MB

Re: Computer Museum (was Re: Very old hardware...)

2020-07-04 Thread Ralph Katz
On 7/3/20 5:40 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > This is, actually something I would like to do.  Anyone know of good > Computer Museums in areas they've been in?  (I remember a good one, > South of San Francisco, but that's on the other side of the Country from > North Carolina). > > I have a couple

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread Davide Lombardo
On Friday, 3 July 2020 22:57:06 CEST Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:17:33 +0200 > > Davide Lombardo wrote: > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > > It might be useful to identify the manufacturer of the computer or

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread 0...@caiway.net
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:17:33 +0200 Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > DRAM: 64 MB SDDR > GPU: RIVA TNT-2 > HARDISK: 10 GB > FLOPPY DISK DRIVE > MODEM 56K > In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread deloptes
Davide Lombardo wrote: > Maybe I can just setup this PC as a Tor's Relay Perhaps you did not understand correctly. The old 386 architecture is not likely to be supported by recent kernels. The power consumptioned to processing power ratio is below reasonable value. It is not likely it makes

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread Davide Lombardo
run an older version of > debian. (I think there's not enough memory for the current install > routine.) OpenBSD or NetBSD or a linux distribution oriented toward > small systems would run. Nothing will give you a good experience with a > GUI and web browser on that hardware. For pra

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread deloptes
e you a good experience with a > GUI and web browser on that hardware. For practical purposes, you'd be > better off with a $35 raspberry PI. I was also thinking of this. It is so old, that it is not worth the electricity it consumes.

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-04 Thread songbird
W light bulb. > > +1 agreed with all those too. much easier to work with more memory and more recent processor/graphics. give it to the recycler and move on. i finally gave up a closet full of old hardware and a huge monitor that was taking up so much space on my desk that weighed abo

Re: Computer Museum (was Re: Very old hardware...)

2020-07-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/03/2020 06:40 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote: This is, actually something I would like to do. Anyone know of good Computer Museums in areas they've been in? (I remember a good one, South of San Francisco, but that's on the other side of the Country from North Carolina). I don't know of a

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-07-03 11:08, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 July 2020 13:17:33 Davide Lombardo wrote: Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: Donate it to the curbside pickup. +1 On 2020-07-03 11:58, Michael Stone wrote: > For practical purposes, you'd be better off

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Kenneth Parker
ardo wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 13:17:33 > > From: Davide Lombardo > > To: Debian-user List Debian > > Subject: Very old hardware... > > > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > >

Computer Museum (was Re: Very old hardware...)

2020-07-03 Thread Kenneth Parker
This is, actually something I would like to do. Anyone know of good Computer Museums in areas they've been in? (I remember a good one, South of San Francisco, but that's on the other side of the Country from North Carolina). I have a couple that I REALLY want to make work, in a Museum

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:17:33 +0200 Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; It might be useful to identify the manufacturer of the computer or motherboard, and search the Internet for documentation. You may want to

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
kett wrote: > Donate it to the curbside pickup. When the Big Entropy Re-Collector reboots you in the year 1,000,000 AD you will be accused of cruelty to hardware. Have a good excuse ready. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Michael Stone
small systems would run. Nothing will give you a good experience with a GUI and web browser on that hardware. For practical purposes, you'd be better off with a $35 raspberry PI.

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 7/3/20 8:17 PM, Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > DRAM: 64 MB SDDR > GPU: RIVA TNT-2 > HARDISK: 10 GB > FLOPPY DISK DRIVE > MODEM 56K > In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today... > Do you

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Christian Groessler
3000 Lire? Did you mean 3.000,000 Lire? regards, chris On 2020-07-03 19:17, Davide Lombardo wrote: Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; DRAM: 64 MB SDDR GPU: RIVA TNT-2 HARDISK: 10 GB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE MODEM 56K In the receipt is

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, July 3, 2020 12:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 July 2020 13:17:33 Davide Lombardo wrote: > > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > > CPU: Pentium III 700

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Hans
! OpenGl-games might run, but the Riva TNT-2 is hardware accelerated, but compared to modern cards --slow! Problems might come in hardware, for example sound, but alsa should do it. If it runs pulseaudio? Do not know. I would give it a try. As I said above, LXDE would be my choice for a window

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 13:17:33 Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > DRAM: 64 MB SDDR > GPU: RIVA TNT-2 > HARDISK: 10 GB > FLOPPY DISK DRIVE > MODEM 56K > In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Debian with xfce or mate or cinnamon may install and run well. I don't recommend gnome. On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Davide Lombardo wrote: > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 13:17:33 > From: Davide Lombardo > To: Debian-user List Debian > Subject: Very old hardware... > > Good evening Debian

Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Davide Lombardo
Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; DRAM: 64 MB SDDR GPU: RIVA TNT-2 HARDISK: 10 GB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE MODEM 56K In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today... Do you think I can install something different than the already

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-07-01 Thread Dan Ritter
Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 7/1/20 7:04 AM, Reco wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:49:09PM +1000, elvis wrote: > > > On 1/7/20 4:51 am, Dan Ritter wrote: [attributions snipped] > > > > > No.. if you want to be pedantic, the proper terminology is "Linux > > > > > Raid" or > > > > > "md

RAID stuff [was Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center]

2020-07-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 7/1/20 8:15 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 7/1/20 7:04 AM, Reco wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:49:09PM +1000, elvis wrote: On 1/7/20 4:51 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 7:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-07-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 7/1/20 7:04 AM, Reco wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:49:09PM +1000, elvis wrote: On 1/7/20 4:51 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 7:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Now who's being

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-07-01 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:49:09PM +1000, elvis wrote: > > On 1/7/20 4:51 am, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > On 6/29/20 7:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > > > On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Miles Fidelman wrote: >

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-07-01 Thread elvis
On 1/7/20 4:51 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 7:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Now who's being pedantic? Precisely. And isn't this exactly what I said??? mdadm is an admin program, it

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 6/29/20 7:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > Now who's being pedantic? > > Precisely. > > > > > And isn't this exactly what I said??? mdadm is an admin program, it

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 6/29/20 7:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Now who's being pedantic? Precisely. And isn't this exactly what I said??? mdadm is an admin program, it doesn't perform the raid function. And it's OK to refer to the

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > Now who's being pedantic? Precisely. > And isn't this exactly what I said??? mdadm is an admin program, it doesn't > perform the raid function. And it's OK to refer to the whole thing as an mdadm RAID.

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-06-29 10:40, echo test wrote: > On 2020-06-28 18:58, David Christensen wrote: ZFS requires a different way of thinking, At what level do we have to change our mind? Thus far, I have had to re-think operations, maintenance, and disaster recovery. As I develop software, I must

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Actually, he seems to be designing a central database to support 2000 retail restaurants. And based on most recent posts, seems to be pre-startup designing a product. My sense is that what he really needs is somebody on the team who understands distributed enterprise architectures. Miles

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 6/29/20 9:10 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Just to be clear... mdadm is NOT raid - it's an admin program for managing linux raid (md) devices.?? And then you need to worry about LVM (logical volume manager), and a network file system on top of them. Just to be clear, you are

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
: > > > > > > I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little > > > > > > experience with, enterprise hardware. Am I correct in my > > > > > > understanding > > > > > > that it is actually possible

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread David Christensen
for the relevant fields, and the query took a few minutes. Powerful hardware is nice, but using it efficiently is even better. ZFS beeing a filesystem and mdadm an utility software, I think I'll go for mdadm. I didn't know that Debian was supporting ZFS I always used Ext4. For ZFS on Debian, install

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 29 iun 20, 09:25:03, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > > Il 29/06/20 09:02, Andrei POPESCU ha scritto: > > On Du, 28 iun 20, 00:16:05, David Christensen wrote: > > > I have yet to > > > hear of an "enterprise" environment built on Debian, but you can tell us > > > about yours when you build it.

Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread echo test
roduct we are going to build will cover all those aspects a.k.a building this means our product is ready and we gained more experience on the subject. > I added indexes for the relevant fields, and the query took a few minutes. Powerful hardware is nice, but using it efficiently is even better Infi

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:32:40 +0200 MAS Jean-Louis wrote: ... > We have about 100 servers now, mostly Dell, and we are working with > Dell for about 17 years, without any troubles. We owned several hundred > Dell's servers during those years, mostly running on Debian. > > Everything work fine

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread MAS Jean-Louis
Le 29/06/2020 à 17:31, Reco a écrit : > I see nothing wrong with Dell servers per se. If one really needs > something relatively cheap and durable - there's nothing wrong with > Dell (or Supermicro, but that's politics again). But, it's Tier 2, not > 1. So - my quote at the top. We have about

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Reco
bout, and have little > > > > > experience with, enterprise hardware. Am I correct in my understanding > > > > > that it is actually possible to run (more-or-less) Debian on a switch > > > > > by using OpenSwitch (OPX) on an Open Networking switch. > > >

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:58:18 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:51:52AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little > > > > experience with, enterprise hardware.

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:51:52AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little > > > experience with, enterprise hardware. Am I correct in my understanding > > > that it is actually possible to run (more-

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
gt; All of those duties except the switch can reasonable be run on > > > Debian servers. > > > > I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little > > experience with, enterprise hardware. Am I correct in my understanding > > that it is actually possi

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
n reasonable be run on > > > Debian servers. > > > > I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little > > experience with, enterprise hardware. Am I correct in my understanding > > that it is actually possible to run (more-or-less) Debian on a switch > > by u

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:22:21AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > Anything else is at least one tier lower so why bother discussing it? > > What do you have against Dell? I have a troubled past with EMC :) > Everything I've read indicates that their enterprise gear is very > good, and

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:45:48 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 01:27:05AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > > I'll be original here. Try SunFire X-series (aka SunServer X). Somewhat > > > costly, and the hardware quality is a hit or miss in newer models, but >

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Reco
> 2 web servers > > a database server > > a mail server > > a general utility box with lots of storage to handle backups > > > > All of those duties except the switch can reasonable be run on > > Debian servers. > > I'm curious, although I don'

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Dan Ritter
t; a mail server > > a general utility box with lots of storage to handle backups > > > > All of those duties except the switch can reasonable be run on > > Debian servers. > > I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little > experience with, enterpris

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Celejar
ps > > All of those duties except the switch can reasonable be run on > Debian servers. I'm curious, although I don't know much about, and have little experience with, enterprise hardware. Am I correct in my understanding that it is actually possible to run (more-or-less) Debian on a switch

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Reco
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 01:27:05AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > I'll be original here. Try SunFire X-series (aka SunServer X). Somewhat > > costly, and the hardware quality is a hit or miss in newer models, but > > runs Debian stable like it was designed for it. > > I

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Richard Hector
ion that they support Debian. > I'll be original here. Try SunFire X-series (aka SunServer X). Somewhat > costly, and the hardware quality is a hit or miss in newer models, but > runs Debian stable like it was designed for it. I'm a little unclear what you're suggesting here - Sun Fire

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Miles Fidelman wrote: > Just to be clear... mdadm is NOT raid - it's an admin program for managing > linux raid (md) devices.?? And then you need to worry about LVM (logical > volume manager), and a network file system on top of them. Just to be clear, you are being pedantic bordering on wrong

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Dan Ritter
D. R. Evans wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote on 6/26/20 1:41 PM: > > echo test wrote: > > > >> Note: I will need some RAID solution hard or soft. > > > > We are firmly of the opinion that mdadm or ZFS are the best > > solutions here. > > > > Absolutely. > > Actually I'd go further and differentiate

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-06-29 00:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 28 iun 20, 00:16:05, David Christensen wrote: I have yet to hear of an "enterprise" environment built on Debian, but you can tell us about yours when you build it. (URL's for examples of such are welcome.) Maybe some of the deployments here

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 29/06/20 09:02, Andrei POPESCU ha scritto: On Du, 28 iun 20, 00:16:05, David Christensen wrote: I have yet to hear of an "enterprise" environment built on Debian, but you can tell us about yours when you build it. (URL's for examples of such are welcome.) Maybe some of the deployments

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 iun 20, 00:16:05, David Christensen wrote: > I have yet to > hear of an "enterprise" environment built on Debian, but you can tell us > about yours when you build it. (URL's for examples of such are welcome.) Maybe some of the deployments here fit your definition of "enterprise".

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
rt beyond security updates for its packages and this list. You either do it yourself or you hire a third-party (see https://www.debian.org/consultants). 2. Hardware vendors don't certify their products with Debian (there is no incentive to do so). This matters if you want / must use specialized prod

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-29 Thread Leslie Rhorer
Not necessarily, and in particular not given his needs, if I recall them correctly. LVM is fine for many purposes, but it is not required, nor is a network file system. My servers at home have no partitions and no LVM, and I have the RAID system for the data volume formatted as XFS. I use

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-06-28 19:19, David Christensen wrote: On 2020-06-28 11:24, Miles Fidelman wrote: RAID is easy - Debian supports a number of software RAID options, and most motherboards support some form of hardware RAID (as to many external drive enclosures). Yes.  I avoid them. Correction -- I

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread David Christensen
king in the wrong place.  Look at the Debian site, for the list of supported hardware.  Look at the installation documents for driver installation (which is more an issue for peripheral support - is there a driver for every device that you plan to install?). I looked for certified hardware. De

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 6/28/20 3:58 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: Dan Ritter wrote on 6/26/20 1:41 PM: echo test wrote: Note: I will need some RAID solution hard or soft. We are firmly of the opinion that mdadm or ZFS are the best solutions here. Absolutely. Actually I'd go further and differentiate the two by

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread D. R. Evans
Dan Ritter wrote on 6/26/20 1:41 PM: > echo test wrote: > >> Note: I will need some RAID solution hard or soft. > > We are firmly of the opinion that mdadm or ZFS are the best > solutions here. > Absolutely. Actually I'd go further and differentiate the two by suggesting that if you use ECC

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
ng with a dozen or more other file systems. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, are you saying that Debian  cannot scale in a bigger enterprise ? Can you tell me what happened with hardware RAID solutions? > small" could be anything from 10 to 1000 users. Mentioning some numbers >

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
in the last ~20 years. (But, it is common for the "stable" version not to work on recently designed hardware.)  I also have a Ubiquitti Networks Unifi Controller application stack running on a Debian VPS on the Internet ($5/month).  I am the only user and it has never failed. Other peopl

Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread echo test
upporting ZFS I always used Ext4. > Well, this might be heresy, but at that size, consider a Raspberry Pi running Raspian > I use a 3+ because I want to give the 4 a couple years to get its hardware and software debugged. I already have some raspberry pi running at home and even if I found

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread deloptes
David Christensen wrote: > There have been 16 responses to your post in the past 36+ hours.  You > should reply to at least some of them. > > > David Excellent reading (at least for me) even if OP does not reply, it is not wasted. regards

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-28 Thread David Christensen
center for my company for hosting a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware for this. Please specify the architecture of your services, your current development/ test/ staging/ production infrastructure and facilities, your current workload for each service

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Hello, >>> >>> First of all, please don't ask me why I simply don't want to use aws >>> or gcp. >>> >>> Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting >>> a web app and a mail server. It's the first ti

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Kenneth Parker
't want to use aws > >>> or gcp. > >>> > >>> Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting > >>> a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy > >>> some hardware for this. I tried looking for it on the we

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Fred
or gcp. Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware for this. I tried looking for it on the web in order to compare them but it seems that hardware vendors never want to talk abou

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Dan Ritter
Miles Fidelman wrote: > One other alternative: A lot of people seem to swear by Mac Minis as > servers.?? They're already BSD under the hood, and I've run all kinds of > Linux distros on Macs, under virtualization.?? You should be able to run > Debian directly, though I've never tried it. I

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
all data center for my company for hosting a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware for this. I tried looking for it on the web in order to compare them but it seems that hardware vendors never want to talk about Debian on their websites. Seriously, I prefer

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
hosting a web > > app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware > > for this. I tried looking for it on the web in order to compare them but it > > seems that hardware vendors never want to talk about Debian on their > > websites. > > &

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 26 iun 20, 20:34:07, echo test wrote: > Hello, > > First of all, please don't ask me why I simply don't want to use aws or gcp. > > Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a web > app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-27 Thread Leslie Rhorer
mode and then create and manage the array with mdadm. I have been burned more than once with hardware RAID solutions. On 6/26/2020 1:34 PM, echo test wrote: Hello, First of all, please don't ask me why I simply don't want to use aws or gcp. Then, I want to build a small data center for my

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread ghe
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 26, 2020 12:34 PM, echo test wrote: > Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware for this. I tried looking for it on the web in or

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 04:43:15PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Note: I will need some RAID solution hard or soft. > > > > Anything that's made by LSI if you need a hardware RAID controller. > > Mdraid if whatever they sold you is not made by LSI. >

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread Dan Ritter
r mention that they support Debian. > > I'll be original here. Try SunFire X-series (aka SunServer X). Somewhat > costly, and the hardware quality is a hit or miss in newer models, but > runs Debian stable like it was designed for it. > > > > Note: I will need some RAID solu

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 26, 2020 12:34 PM, echo test wrote: > Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a web > app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some ha

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread Reco
original here. Try SunFire X-series (aka SunServer X). Somewhat costly, and the hardware quality is a hit or miss in newer models, but runs Debian stable like it was designed for it. > Note: I will need some RAID solution hard or soft. Anything that's made by LSI if you need a hardware RAI

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 2:41 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > echo test wrote: > > Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a > web > > app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware > > for this. I tried looking for it on the

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread deloptes
at > kind of issues can I encounter with such hardwares except simple cases > like having to install missing drivers with some already available > firmwares. > I decided to not spend money on server hardware (data volume and load are really minimal), because this hardware is a) more e

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread Dan Ritter
echo test wrote: > Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a web > app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware > for this. I tried looking for it on the web in order to compare them but it > seems that hardware vendors never

Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

2020-06-26 Thread echo test
Hello, First of all, please don't ask me why I simply don't want to use aws or gcp. Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy some hardware for this. I tried looking for it on the web in order to compare

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-14 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-05-14 12:22, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 13/05/2020 à 02:30, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-12 08:04, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 12/05/2020 à 03:37, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-11 10:28, Yvan Masson wrote: What is the model/ part number of your computer? It is an Acer

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-14 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 14/05/2020 à 21:22, Yvan Masson a écrit : Le 13/05/2020 à 02:30, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-12 08:04, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 12/05/2020 à 03:37, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-11 10:28, Yvan Masson wrote: Was the memory in your computer installed by Acer? I believe

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-14 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 13/05/2020 à 02:30, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-12 08:04, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 12/05/2020 à 03:37, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-11 10:28, Yvan Masson wrote: Was the memory in your computer installed by Acer? I believe so. Okay. Have you removed or inserted any

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-05-12 08:04, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 12/05/2020 à 03:37, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-11 10:28, Yvan Masson wrote: Was the memory in your computer installed by Acer? I believe so. Okay. Have you removed or inserted any memory modules? Not before the issue arose.

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-12 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 12/05/2020 à 03:37, David Christensen a écrit : On 2020-05-11 10:28, Yvan Masson wrote: Hi, I installed Debian 10 on a Acer AspireOne (32 bits processor, 1GB RAM). Installation failed two times with corrupted packages, each time on same package (tcllib). I finally manage to re-download and

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-05-11 10:28, Yvan Masson wrote: Hi, I installed Debian 10 on a Acer AspireOne (32 bits processor, 1GB RAM). Installation failed two times with corrupted packages, each time on same package (tcllib). I finally manage to re-download and install it by hand in another TTY so that the

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-11 Thread didier gaumet
I do not know well the subject but RAM problems can be a nightmare and I suppose yours could be -for example- caused by a particular area of the RAM that does not systematically fail under workload (transiant fault) and thus is not detected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_tester

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-11 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 11/05/2020 à 20:03, didier gaumet a écrit : Hello, perhaps try to install in text mode and lowmem: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.en.html perhaps you have a RAM problem in a particular area that is not reported by the RAM verifying tool you used. If the installation

Re: Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-11 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, perhaps try to install in text mode and lowmem: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.en.html perhaps you have a RAM problem in a particular area that is not reported by the RAM verifying tool you used. If the installation succeeds, it could mean you have to replace the

Suggestion on hardware issue?

2020-05-11 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi, I installed Debian 10 on a Acer AspireOne (32 bits processor, 1GB RAM). Installation failed two times with corrupted packages, each time on same package (tcllib). I finally manage to re-download and install it by hand in another TTY so that the installer could finish. However, after the

Re: Hardware Accelerated Video Playback in Chromium

2020-04-25 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:00:58 -0700 "Neil E. Hodges" <47hasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Does anybody know the status of hardware-accelerated video playback in > Chromium on Debian as of 2020? There's a lot of outdated information > out there, and

Hardware Accelerated Video Playback in Chromium

2020-04-25 Thread Neil E. Hodges
Hello everyone, Does anybody know the status of hardware-accelerated video playback in Chromium on Debian as of 2020? There's a lot of outdated information out there, and the only recent stuff I've seen has involved a PPA on Ubuntu. Thank you, - Neil

Re: USB-OTG hardware 5Volt parallel so far so good

2020-03-15 Thread Richard Lucassen
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:04:09 +0100 Geert Stappers wrote: > > Ik vermoed dat het geen probleem is, maar voor service en garantie > > is Richard op vakantie. > > Kort: Het bleek inderdaad geen probleem te zijn. > > Schema van het developmentboard laat zien dat er een > stroombegrenzerchip zit

Re: USB-OTG hardware 5Volt parallel so far so good

2020-03-15 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 03:11:12PM +0100, Richard Lucassen wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 13:59:18 +0100 Geert Stappers wrote: > > > Een developmentboard met 5Volt voeding op eigen connector, > > dat ook een USB-OTG connector met 5Volt heeft, > > durf ik niet beide tegelijk aansluiten. > > > > Hoe

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