Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 03 Feb 2012, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 
 There is a bit more to this matter than the package lpr.  
 
 About a decade ago, the package lprng (ng meaning next generation)
 fixed most of the problems of the package lpr.  Most importantly, the
 author of lprng carefully documented the procedure for configuring the
 printing system.  And though lprng was carefully wrought and worked
 well, lprng nonetheless was an elaborate patch of a legacy printing
 system.  In those days, getting printing configured properly was a
 somewhat complex post-installation process.
 
 Then cups was designed, and getting printing working properly in Linux
 suddenly was a fairly simple matter.  Things went well until cups was
 purchased by Apple, since which event there have been some
 improvements in printing configuration and management and some
 regressions.  And I miss the marvelous detailed cups test page, which
 Apple replaced with a primitive and ugly version.
 
 Today, lpr simply is one of the commands which cups recognizes;
 that is, cups controls the printer, and lpr is an element of the
 command set of cups.  
 
 For example, I print a man page on the default laser printer with the
 command string man -t packagename | lpr.  And I print address labels
 on a dot-matrix printer with the command string lpr -Poki labels.
 
 RLH
 


Interesting: I didn't know about the purchase by Apple. I always
preferred lprng to cups but for some reason one of my laptops no longer
gave me /dev/lp0 so I was forced to use cups on that machine. I had some
problems with cups last summer (had to take the USB lead out and put it
back after each printing) but at present things seem to be more or less
all right. I still have lprng on my other machines and don't intend to
change unless I have to.

AC

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk [120203 11:21]:
 Interesting: I didn't know about the purchase by Apple. I always
 preferred lprng to cups but for some reason one of my laptops no longer
 gave me /dev/lp0 so I was forced to use cups on that machine. I had some
 problems with cups last summer (had to take the USB lead out and put it
 back after each printing) but at present things seem to be more or less
 all right. I still have lprng on my other machines and don't intend to
 change unless I have to.

I came to Linux as a result of a disaster caused by one of the few
genuine Y2K bugs, which caused M$ Word for M$-DO$ to write garbage to
the data files.  That event taught me the potential cost of running a
proprietary system, and, in particular, a system in which data is
stored in anything other than plain text.

At that relatively-early date in the history of Linux (my first system
was Potato), I was very glad to have lprng.  I never recall having
difficulty with lprng, and I was apprehensive about the switch to cups.
Indeed, upon the acquisition of cups by Apple, and in view of my
personal experience with several Macinto$h systems, I gave thought to
returning to lprng.  But as lprng loses popularity, maintenance
becomes an issue.  At this point, I think that if Apple ruins cups,
the best approach to recovery would be to branch cups from the
pre-Apple release, rather than to return to lprng.

RLH


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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-02-02 11:43:24 +0800, lina wrote:
 which package contains the lpr command for printing.

There are several ones:

$ apt-file -x search 'bin/lpr$'
cups-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr
cups-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lpr
gnuspool: /usr/bin/lpr
lpr: /usr/bin/lpr
lprng: /usr/bin/lpr

Not sure what's the best one. With remote print servers, recent CUPS
versions (as those in Debian/unstable) are unfortunately broken.

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread Klaus Jantzen

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2012-02-02 11:43:24 +0800, lina wrote:
  

which package contains the lpr command for printing.



There are several ones:

$ apt-file -x search 'bin/lpr$'
cups-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr
cups-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lpr
gnuspool: /usr/bin/lpr
lpr: /usr/bin/lpr
lprng: /usr/bin/lpr

Not sure what's the best one. With remote print servers, recent CUPS
versions (as those in Debian/unstable) are unfortunately broken.

  

Through this discussion I found out that lpr works in my system.
Only: I have to specify the printer with the option -P.
As I have only one printer I would like to set this as system default. 
Where can I do that?


Thanks.

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread lina

On Friday 03,February,2012 06:49 PM, Anthony Campbell wrote:

On 03 Feb 2012, Russell L. Harris wrote:


There is a bit more to this matter than the package lpr.

About a decade ago, the package lprng (ng meaning next generation)
fixed most of the problems of the package lpr.  Most importantly, the
author of lprng carefully documented the procedure for configuring the
printing system.  And though lprng was carefully wrought and worked
well, lprng nonetheless was an elaborate patch of a legacy printing
system.  In those days, getting printing configured properly was a
somewhat complex post-installation process.

Then cups was designed, and getting printing working properly in Linux
suddenly was a fairly simple matter.  Things went well until cups was
purchased by Apple, since which event there have been some
improvements in printing configuration and management and some
regressions.  And I miss the marvelous detailed cups test page, which
Apple replaced with a primitive and ugly version.

Today, lpr simply is one of the commands which cups recognizes;
that is, cups controls the printer, and lpr is an element of the
command set of cups.

For example, I print a man page on the default laser printer with the
command string man -t packagename | lpr.  And I print address labels
on a dot-matrix printer with the command string lpr -Poki labels.

RLH




Interesting: I didn't know about the purchase by Apple. I always
preferred lprng to cups but for some reason one of my laptops no longer
gave me /dev/lp0 so I was forced to use cups on that machine. I had some
problems with cups last summer (had to take the USB lead out and put it
back after each printing) but at present things seem to be more or less


Why I have never thought of bring my laptop to the printer nearby and 
plug the cable to use it.


Thanks for reminding me this.


all right. I still have lprng on my other machines and don't intend to
change unless I have to.

AC




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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread lina

On Friday 03,February,2012 09:01 PM, lina wrote:

On Friday 03,February,2012 06:49 PM, Anthony Campbell wrote:

On 03 Feb 2012, Russell L. Harris wrote:


There is a bit more to this matter than the package lpr.

About a decade ago, the package lprng (ng meaning next generation)
fixed most of the problems of the package lpr. Most importantly, the
author of lprng carefully documented the procedure for configuring the
printing system. And though lprng was carefully wrought and worked
well, lprng nonetheless was an elaborate patch of a legacy printing
system. In those days, getting printing configured properly was a
somewhat complex post-installation process.

Then cups was designed, and getting printing working properly in Linux
suddenly was a fairly simple matter. Things went well until cups was
purchased by Apple, since which event there have been some
improvements in printing configuration and management and some
regressions. And I miss the marvelous detailed cups test page, which
Apple replaced with a primitive and ugly version.

Today, lpr simply is one of the commands which cups recognizes;
that is, cups controls the printer, and lpr is an element of the
command set of cups.

For example, I print a man page on the default laser printer with the
command string man -t packagename | lpr. And I print address labels
on a dot-matrix printer with the command string lpr -Poki labels.

RLH




Interesting: I didn't know about the purchase by Apple. I always
preferred lprng to cups but for some reason one of my laptops no longer
gave me /dev/lp0 so I was forced to use cups on that machine. I had some
problems with cups last summer (had to take the USB lead out and put it
back after each printing) but at present things seem to be more or less


Why I have never thought of bring my laptop to the printer nearby and
plug the cable to use it.

Thanks for reminding me this.


Happy so earlier, there is no output cable except one for power, one for 
internet.





all right. I still have lprng on my other machines and don't intend to
change unless I have to.

AC






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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread Dom

On 03/02/12 12:48, Klaus Jantzen wrote:

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2012-02-02 11:43:24 +0800, lina wrote:

which package contains the lpr command for printing.


There are several ones:

$ apt-file -x search 'bin/lpr$'
cups-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr
cups-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lpr
gnuspool: /usr/bin/lpr
lpr: /usr/bin/lpr
lprng: /usr/bin/lpr

Not sure what's the best one. With remote print servers, recent CUPS
versions (as those in Debian/unstable) are unfortunately broken.


Through this discussion I found out that lpr works in my system.
Only: I have to specify the printer with the option -P.
As I have only one printer I would like to set this as system default.
Where can I do that?

Thanks.



You can set the default printer to use for print jobs with:

lpadmin -d $printername

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-03 Thread Klaus Jantzen

Dom wrote:

On 03/02/12 12:48, Klaus Jantzen wrote:

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2012-02-02 11:43:24 +0800, lina wrote:

which package contains the lpr command for printing.


There are several ones:

$ apt-file -x search 'bin/lpr$'
cups-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr
cups-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lpr
gnuspool: /usr/bin/lpr
lpr: /usr/bin/lpr
lprng: /usr/bin/lpr

Not sure what's the best one. With remote print servers, recent CUPS
versions (as those in Debian/unstable) are unfortunately broken.


Through this discussion I found out that lpr works in my system.
Only: I have to specify the printer with the option -P.
As I have only one printer I would like to set this as system default.
Where can I do that?

Thanks.



You can set the default printer to use for print jobs with:

lpadmin -d $printername


Thanks, that did it.

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-02 Thread Wayne Topa

On 02/01/2012 11:39 PM, lina wrote:

Thanks,

Before I thought it's some hidden command in some package, did not
realize I should use aptitude show or dpkg -S or apt-cache search.
(actually I was not addicted to use those ways,  I used to go to
debian webpage and looking for package.)

well, I have a derived problem, after installing lpr,

$ lpr ProbSet_2.pdf
lpr: lp: unknown printer

$ lpstat
HP-LaserJet-P4015-225   lina156672   Thursday
02,February,2012 11:35:38 AM SGT

lp ProbSet_2.pdf
request id is HP-LaserJet-P4015-226 (1 file(s))

I don't know what's going on.

thanks,


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM,kei...@strucktower.com  wrote:

Hi,

which package contains the lpr command for printing.

Thanks,



I seem to recall from one of your posts that you are using cups.  If
you installed the cups-bsd package, then lpr is already installed.

The lpr package conflicts with the cups-bsd package

$apt-cache show cups-bsd
Package: cups-bsd
Source: cups
Version: 1.5.0-16
Installed-Size: 154
Maintainer: Debian CUPS Maintainers pkg-cups-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Architecture: amd64
Replaces: lpr
Provides: lpr
Depends: libc6 (= 2.4), libcups2 (= 1.4.0), debconf (= 0.5) | 
debconf-2.0, cups-client (= 1.5.0-16), update-inetd, cups-common

Suggests: cups
Conflicts: lpr, lprng
Description-en: Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands
 The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS(tm)) is a printing system and
 general replacement for lpr, lpd and the like.  It supports the
 Internet Printing Protocol (IPP), and has its own filtering driver
 model for handling various document types.
 .
 This package provides the BSD commands for interacting with CUPS.  It
 is provided separately to allow CUPS to coexist with other printing
 systems (to a small degree).


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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-02 Thread lee
lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:

 well, I have a derived problem, after installing lpr,

 $ lpr ProbSet_2.pdf
 lpr: lp: unknown printer

 $ lpstat
 HP-LaserJet-P4015-225   lina156672   Thursday
 02,February,2012 11:35:38 AM SGT

 lp ProbSet_2.pdf
 request id is HP-LaserJet-P4015-226 (1 file(s))

What happens when you try 'lpr -PHP-LaserJet-P4015-225 ProbeSet_2.pdf'?


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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-02 Thread lina
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:53 AM, lee l...@songoku.yagibdah.de wrote:
 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:

 well, I have a derived problem, after installing lpr,

 $ lpr ProbSet_2.pdf
 lpr: lp: unknown printer

 $ lpstat
 HP-LaserJet-P4015-225   lina            156672   Thursday
 02,February,2012 11:35:38 AM SGT

 lp ProbSet_2.pdf
 request id is HP-LaserJet-P4015-226 (1 file(s))

 What happens when you try 'lpr -PHP-LaserJet-P4015-225 ProbeSet_2.pdf'?

$ lpr -PHP-LaserJet-P4015 ProbSet_2.pdf

it showed me nothing,

In cups the job does not show.

thanks,



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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com [120203 05:40]:
 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 For whatever reason the folks around here seem to prefer lprng over
 lpr.  And of course the lpr command is also provided by cups-bsd /
 cups.  So there seem to be three flavors available.

There is a bit more to this matter than the package lpr.  

About a decade ago, the package lprng (ng meaning next generation)
fixed most of the problems of the package lpr.  Most importantly, the
author of lprng carefully documented the procedure for configuring the
printing system.  And though lprng was carefully wrought and worked
well, lprng nonetheless was an elaborate patch of a legacy printing
system.  In those days, getting printing configured properly was a
somewhat complex post-installation process.

Then cups was designed, and getting printing working properly in Linux
suddenly was a fairly simple matter.  Things went well until cups was
purchased by Apple, since which event there have been some
improvements in printing configuration and management and some
regressions.  And I miss the marvelous detailed cups test page, which
Apple replaced with a primitive and ugly version.

Today, lpr simply is one of the commands which cups recognizes;
that is, cups controls the printer, and lpr is an element of the
command set of cups.  

For example, I print a man page on the default laser printer with the
command string man -t packagename | lpr.  And I print address labels
on a dot-matrix printer with the command string lpr -Poki labels.

RLH


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lpr command not found

2012-02-01 Thread lina
Hi,

which package contains the lpr command for printing.

Thanks,


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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 2/1/2012 9:43 PM, lina wrote:

 which package contains the lpr command for printing.

Surprisingly... lpr

$ aptitude show lpr
Package: lpr
State: not installed
Version: 1:2008.05.17
Priority: optional
Section: net
Maintainer: Adam Majer ad...@zombino.com
Uncompressed Size: 410 k
Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-1), netbase
Suggests: magicfilter | apsfilter, gs
Conflicts: suidmanager ( 0.50)
Replaces: logcheck-database
Provided by: cups-bsd, lprng
Description: BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system
 This is the BSD printer spooler and associated utilities. You can use
this for local and remote printers.

 If you install magicfilter or apsfilter (along with ghostscript), lpr
will be able to automatically handle special file types (such
 as Postscript and PDF files).

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-01 Thread lina
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
 On 2/1/2012 9:43 PM, lina wrote:

 which package contains the lpr command for printing.

 Surprisingly... lpr

aha ... thanks,


 $ aptitude show lpr
 Package: lpr
 State: not installed
 Version: 1:2008.05.17
 Priority: optional
 Section: net
 Maintainer: Adam Majer ad...@zombino.com
 Uncompressed Size: 410 k
 Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-1), netbase
 Suggests: magicfilter | apsfilter, gs
 Conflicts: suidmanager ( 0.50)
 Replaces: logcheck-database
 Provided by: cups-bsd, lprng
 Description: BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system
  This is the BSD printer spooler and associated utilities. You can use
 this for local and remote printers.

  If you install magicfilter or apsfilter (along with ghostscript), lpr
 will be able to automatically handle special file types (such
  as Postscript and PDF files).

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-01 Thread lina
Thanks,

Before I thought it's some hidden command in some package, did not
realize I should use aptitude show or dpkg -S or apt-cache search.
(actually I was not addicted to use those ways,  I used to go to
debian webpage and looking for package.)

well, I have a derived problem, after installing lpr,

$ lpr ProbSet_2.pdf
lpr: lp: unknown printer

$ lpstat
HP-LaserJet-P4015-225   lina156672   Thursday
02,February,2012 11:35:38 AM SGT

lp ProbSet_2.pdf
request id is HP-LaserJet-P4015-226 (1 file(s))

I don't know what's going on.

thanks,


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM,  kei...@strucktower.com wrote:
 Hi,

 which package contains the lpr command for printing.

 Thanks,


 lpr is the name of the package.

 If a progam is installed, you can use:

 dpkg -S program_name

 to find the package name. If it is not installed you can use:

 apt-cache search program_name

 Depending on your setup you may want to look up lp as well.

 Keith Ostertag



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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-01 Thread keitho
 Hi,

 which package contains the lpr command for printing.

 Thanks,


lpr is the name of the package.

If a progam is installed, you can use:

dpkg -S program_name

to find the package name. If it is not installed you can use:

apt-cache search program_name

Depending on your setup you may want to look up lp as well.

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Re: lpr command not found

2012-02-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 lina wrote:
  which package contains the lpr command for printing.
 
 Surprisingly... lpr
 Provided by: cups-bsd, lprng
 Description: BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system

For whatever reason the folks around here seem to prefer lprng over
lpr.  And of course the lpr command is also provided by cups-bsd / cups.
So there seem to be three flavors available.

Bob


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