Re: (solved) Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-11 Thread franiortiz hotmail
i write because i have not seen it in this topic, sorry if i'm wrong, i use 
xournal for a long time, very fast and light allows annotations, write on 
pdf,... 
works with .xoj format but allows export and import pdf.
thank you
regards



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-10 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:17:19 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> There are some pdf's that evince can't print, but okular hasn't failed
> me, yet.

+1 for okular



Re: (solved) Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-10 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-10, Long Wind  wrote:

> but i've just tested two pdf viewers, and they seem goodi needn't try
> a thi rd one, thanks anyway besides Zathura is a strange name
>
mupdf is excruciatingly fast, but that would make four. 

(BTW, Zathura was the polymorph goddess of document viewing chez the
Atlanteans in the platonic mythos. Of course, the island did sink so
maybe not a top choice.) 




Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-10 Thread Joe
On Wed, 9 May 2018 22:17:19 -0400
Gene Heskett  wrote:


> >  
> There are some pdf's that evince can't print, but okular hasn't
> failed me, yet.
> 

Not recently, because I don't use it for them, but I've had a number of
PDFs fail to render properly in Evince. Generally with drawing stuff in
them, I don't think I've seen it mess up a text-only file. Okular is
very slow to start up, but always works properly. It was generally
exports from LibreCAD and gschem, which probably weren't perfect PDFs
but which rendered fine in Acrobat on Windows. Sorry, that's the
reference standard, as it's what everyone sees my drawings with.

As always, this kind of problem occured in the middle of an urgent job,
so I did the bare minimum to get working again, (i.e. found another GUI
PDF reader) and didn't document anything. I believe I reported the bug
and attached a small example file. A quick glance at half a dozen
random old drawing PDFs with Evince doesn't show any obvious problem
(and they were) so maybe the fault has been fixed by now.

-- 
Joe



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Still an xpdf user after all these years.  But...  since I now have a
laptop that has a touchscreen, is there one that supports a swipe
interface (as in, I swipe left on the page I'm currently looking at and
it goes to the next page)?



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread rv riveravaldez
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Charlie Gibbs  wrote:
> On 09/05/18 06:37 PM, Long Wind wrote:
>
>> i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org
>>
>> as an example and for test purpose:introductiontomo00plet.pdf
>>
>> but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slowin displaying them
>>
>> which program can you recommend? Thanks!
>
>
> If all else fails, there's always good old xpdf.  A bit clunky perhaps, but
> it comes with the distro and works reasonably well.
>
> --
> cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
>

I've been using Zathura for a long time now, and it's really great, if
everything you want is a simple, clean, fast and lightweight
pdf-viewer.

In some cases, you can find yourself in front of a pdf that doesn't
get properly opened (or opened at all) by Zathura, and in that case,
Evince and even more Okular will fix your problem.

Regards, !



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 10/05/18 13:37, Long Wind wrote:

i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org
as an example and for test purpose: introductiontomo00plet.pdf
but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them
which program can you recommend? Thanks!


I use and recommend qpdfview. It is built with Qt but can be configured 
to use GTK themes and play nicely with Xfce with:

https://packages.debian.org/sid/qt5-style-plugins
and setting QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2 in my environment.

The default desktop launcher uses "qpdfview --unique", which is annoying 
if you want separate instances rather than one application with tabs, so 
I added a custom launcher in ~/.local/share/applications without this flag.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand



(solved) Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Long Wind
 Thank Gene Heskett, Celejar, Celejar and Ben Finney 

i've just installed evince
but i won't abandon acrobat reader
because i don't need advanced and latest feature

Thank Charlie Gibbs but i'm afraid xpdf is too old


On Thursday, May 10, 2018, 10:17:49 AM GMT+8, Gene Heskett 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wednesday 09 May 2018 21:58:12 Ben Finney wrote:

> Long Wind  writes:
> > but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying
> > them
>
> Acrobat Reader is non-free software, which means the GNU+Linux
> community cannot do anything to improve that software.
>
> What's more, even Adobe is no longer supporting that program on
> GNU+Linux . So whatever
> problems it has, will likely remain and get worse over time.
>
> So I am not too surprised that it performs badly :-)
>
> > which program can you recommend? Thanks!
>
> The catalogue at  can be useful.
>
> The Evince viewer  is clean
> and nice to use, and in the GNOME desktop environment, Evince is the
> default Document Viewer program for PDF and many other formats.
>
There are some pdf's that evince can't print, but okular hasn't failed 
me, yet.

> You can start with that; I have never needed anything else for PDF
> since I started using Evince :-)



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

  

Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Charlie Gibbs

On 09/05/18 06:37 PM, Long Wind wrote:


i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org

as an example and for test purpose:introductiontomo00plet.pdf

but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slowin displaying them

which program can you recommend? Thanks!


If all else fails, there's always good old xpdf.  A bit clunky perhaps, 
but it comes with the distro and works reasonably well.


--
cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 09 May 2018 21:58:12 Ben Finney wrote:

> Long Wind  writes:
> > but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying
> > them
>
> Acrobat Reader is non-free software, which means the GNU+Linux
> community cannot do anything to improve that software.
>
> What's more, even Adobe is no longer supporting that program on
> GNU+Linux . So whatever
> problems it has, will likely remain and get worse over time.
>
> So I am not too surprised that it performs badly :-)
>
> > which program can you recommend? Thanks!
>
> The catalogue at  can be useful.
>
> The Evince viewer  is clean
> and nice to use, and in the GNOME desktop environment, Evince is the
> default Document Viewer program for PDF and many other formats.
>
There are some pdf's that evince can't print, but okular hasn't failed 
me, yet.

> You can start with that; I have never needed anything else for PDF
> since I started using Evince :-)



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 10 May 2018 01:37:19 + (UTC)
Long Wind  wrote:

> i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org
> as an example and for test purpose: introductiontomo00plet.pdf
> 
> but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them
> 
> which program can you recommend? Thanks!

mupdf - very fast (although for some reason it
seems to be slower than it used to be, and it exhibits some really bad
screen tearing on some PDFs), with good key bindings, no unicode support

evince - more featureful and more modern and GUIish, includes native
printing support (useful for when you want to print a page range subset
of the PDF), good support for unicode

zathura (with zathura-pdf-poppler) - very fast, and vi-ish
 
Celejar



Re: which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Ben Finney
Long Wind  writes:

> but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them

Acrobat Reader is non-free software, which means the GNU+Linux community
cannot do anything to improve that software.

What's more, even Adobe is no longer supporting that program on
GNU+Linux . So whatever
problems it has, will likely remain and get worse over time.

So I am not too surprised that it performs badly :-)

> which program can you recommend? Thanks!

The catalogue at  can be useful.

The Evince viewer  is clean and
nice to use, and in the GNOME desktop environment, Evince is the default
Document Viewer program for PDF and many other formats.

You can start with that; I have never needed anything else for PDF since
I started using Evince :-)

-- 
 \  “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does |
  `\   knowledge.” —Charles Darwin, _The Descent of Man_, 1871 |
_o__)  |
Ben Finney



which program do you recommend to read pdf file

2018-05-09 Thread Long Wind
i download a lot of books in pdf form from archive.org
as an example and for test purpose: introductiontomo00plet.pdf

but my acrobat reader in stretch is painfully slow in displaying them

which program can you recommend? Thanks!