Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,20.Jun.09, 22:38:17, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 15.06.09 09:36, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Doing the former allows me to open new tabs as root, doing the latter (with 'su') requires that I provide my root password every time; using 'sudo' requires that I provide 'sudo command'

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomasuh...@fantomas.sk wrote: On 13.06.09 09:32, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports 'Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.'  How do I fix this?  Is it some idiotic security

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:59:56AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: ... This is a design restriction in D-Bus. [http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518390]  Well, that's just stupid, especially for experienced users like myself; I NEED to be able to use gnome-terminal as root.  I

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Osamu Aokios...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:59:56AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: ... This is a design restriction in D-Bus. [http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518390]  Well, that's just stupid, especially for experienced

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.06.09 09:32, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports 'Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.' How do I fix this? Is it some idiotic security feature? (I get really steamed when fear overrides function!) why do you want to sun

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomasuh...@fantomas.sk wrote: On 13.06.09 09:32, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports 'Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.'  How do I fix this?  Is it some idiotic security feature?  (I

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Osamu Aokios...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:59:59AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this limitation is a feature not a bug, and so it's unlikely to get fixed. I am not the right person

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Tony Baldwinphotodha...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomasuh...@fantomas.sk wrote: On 13.06.09 09:32, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:59:59AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this limitation is a feature not a bug, and so it's unlikely to get fixed. I am not the right person to judge this. It may be a right decision and it is a feature. But

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:12:08AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Osamu Aokios...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:59:59AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this limitation is a feature not a

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 09:36:34AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com was heard to say: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomasuh...@fantomas.sk wrote: why do you want to sun gnome-terminal under sudo, instead of running su/sudo in gnome terminal? Doing the former

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,15.Jun.09, 08:59:59, Patrick Wiseman wrote: The problem is, I think, that someone upstream thinks that this limitation is a feature not a bug, and so it's unlikely to get fixed. Writing an app to be run as root is not a trivial thing. Too many things can go wrong. Did you investigate

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,13.Jun.09, 09:32:52, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports How do you know that? I thought gksu was used for that. Try: gksu gnome-terminal Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-14 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat,13.Jun.09, 09:32:52, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports How do you know that? I thought gksu was used for that. Try: gksu gnome-terminal That yields: **

Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-14 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Patrick Wisemanpwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat,13.Jun.09, 09:32:52, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports How do you know that? I

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 08:16:26AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat,13.Jun.09, 09:32:52, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports How do you know that? I

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-14 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Osamu Aokios...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:27:56AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Patrick Wisemanpwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:27:56AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Patrick Wisemanpwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat,13.Jun.09, 09:32:52, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Running 'sudo

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas
Bug reported as Bug#533089 Sadly, if your diagnosis is correct, it may not be fixable... Oh well, I guess that's what sudo -i in a normal terminal is for... Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-14 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rick Thomasrbthoma...@pobox.com wrote: Bug reported as Bug#533089 Sadly, if your diagnosis is correct, it may not be fixable... Oh well, I guess that's what sudo -i in a normal terminal is for... 'sudo -l' you mean? That (or just 'su' alone) gives me root

Re: Paternalistic D-Bus Restrictions (was Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently)

2009-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 14, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rick Thomasrbthoma...@pobox.com wrote: Bug reported as Bug#533089 Sadly, if your diagnosis is correct, it may not be fixable... Oh well, I guess that's what sudo -i in a normal terminal is for... 'sudo

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
Patrick Wiseman ha scritto: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports 'Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.' How do I fix this? Is it some idiotic security feature? (I get really steamed when fear overrides function!) Patrick Workaround: launch a terminal

Re: 'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
Patrick Wiseman ha scritto: Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports 'Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.' How do I fix this? Is it some idiotic security feature? (I get really steamed when fear overrides function!) Patrick A solution that really solves

'Applications, Accessories, Root Terminal' fails silently

2009-06-13 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Running 'sudo gnome-terminal' (which is the equivalent) reports 'Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.' How do I fix this? Is it some idiotic security feature? (I get really steamed when fear overrides function!) Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to