Re: [Jetmail System ] Mail Error

1999-11-29 Thread John Pearson
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 09:34:25AM +1100, Brian May wrote
 
 Anyone knows what this error means?
 
 This message *was* posted to debian-user, despite the error. I
 got replies...
 
 Also, note that the address the bounced message was posted to
 an illegal address.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]doesn't exist, nor have I ever used it.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  missing 
 

You can tell that the post to debian-user was successful, by the 
Received: fields in the returned copy of your mail:
 Received: from murphy.debian.org([209.41.108.199]) by 21cn.com(JetMail 
 2.3.2.1)
   with SMTP id /aimcque/jmail.rcv/5/jm0383de3cf; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 
 22:18:17 -

It looks like the message you received was generated by a list
recipient in 21cn.com; a quick whois shows this to be somewhere 
in Guandong, China.

I'd guess they are running a poorly-configured end-user mail filtering 
tool, or perhaps a badly mangled/configured MTA, as:
 - The return address they have chosen is a composite of the fields
   in your own From and Sender fields:
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (best guess: take the first work from From:, and qualify it with
the Sender: domain).
 - They are objecting to the recipient as listed in the text of the
   message, not to the envelope recipient.

Further breakage at their end is evident in that they used murphy.debian.org
(the host that handed them your message) as a relay for snoopy.apana.org.au.

Depending on which web pages you read, JetMail is either a FidoNet-oriented
list manager for the Atari ST, or a powerful Internet standards-based
email server for small companies, businesses, and corporate remote offices. 
It is designed to be simple for the novice administrator to setup and
configure.  Sounds like one to avoid, in either event :-).

I'd guess that the message you got reflects either someone's badly broekn
attempt to prevent mail relaying, or a failure of their mail filtering
setup due to not being able to deal with To: fields that don't correspond
to known local addresses (perhaps it is a local unbundler, handling mail
as a gateway for a hidden domain, that requires recognisable To: addresses
to allow forwarding to appropriate recipients?).   

I wouldn't worry about it, unless it keeps happening; it looks like it is 
Someone Else's Problem.
 

John P.
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Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark


[Jetmail System ] Mail Error

1999-11-27 Thread Brian May

Anyone knows what this error means?

This message *was* posted to debian-user, despite the error. I
got replies...

Also, note that the address the bounced message was posted to
an illegal address.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]doesn't exist, nor have I ever used it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  missing 

---BeginMessage---
Your mail cannot be delivered to the following address(es):

debian-user@lists.debian.org, 553 From [EMAIL PROTECTED], message blocked.

Please check the above address(es) and then try again.

 Header of the source mail attached 

Received: from murphy.debian.org([209.41.108.199]) by 21cn.com(JetMail 2.3.2.1)
with SMTP id /aimcque/jmail.rcv/5/jm0383de3cf; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 
22:18:17 -
Received: (qmail 21585 invoked by uid 38); 25 Nov 1999 22:12:51 -
Resent-Date: 25 Nov 1999 22:12:50 -
Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ;
X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: NIS+ on debian and red-hat
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Home-Page: http://snoopy.apana.org.au/~bam/
Date: 26 Nov 1999 09:02:55 +1100
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of 25 Nov 99 21:02:06 GMT
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lines: 14
User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/73255
X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Precedence: list
Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---End Message---

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Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]