Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-07-20 00:07, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 16:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: I did. Well, Use PGP/MIME for This Message is always checked now. I wonder what's going wrong, since what you see is not what we're getting for some reason. For what it's worth: it seems to work for test mails I send to myself or other 'private' e-mail adresses, but it just does not work for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've no idea what could be wrong... Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiEbN4ACgkQC1NzPRl9qEUvSQCfXrT2fdBLFvvqERR2HdmyOD4D NsUAniD/JC0TyHO8W2ymIuicDRNhefIV =MArM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/21/08 06:02, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-20 00:07, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 16:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: I did. Well, Use PGP/MIME for This Message is always checked now. I wonder what's going wrong, since what you see is not what we're getting for some reason. For what it's worth: it seems to work for test mails I send to myself or other 'private' e-mail adresses, but it just does not work for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've no idea what could be wrong... It might be part and parcel with the bug that makes Enigmail sometimes sign mails even when I unclick the relevant icon. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiEb0oACgkQS9HxQb37XmcPYwCeLT8EIYX8OwR1wd5cZfNbM4KL fIwAnRbXWjwCO2T/DxIofPNv7dp9Lj3S =WjzT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/08 14:50, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options You might want to switch from inline to MIME yourself, Ron. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/19/08 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/08 14:50, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options You might want to switch from inline to MIME yourself, Ron. I did. Well, Use PGP/MIME for This Message is always checked now. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiCYJcACgkQS9HxQb37XmeoIACdGHVacAVAzTLxkENHAXP6JVzq r20AoMGgXnDFRIUnf/6Mmbmx3ff5ZVGq =pnCn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/19/08 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/08 14:50, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options You might want to switch from inline to MIME yourself, Ron. I did. Well, Use PGP/MIME for This Message is always checked now. But letter which I now answer to contains inline PGP ;) -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 16:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/19/08 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/08 14:50, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options You might want to switch from inline to MIME yourself, Ron. I did. Well, Use PGP/MIME for This Message is always checked now. I wonder what's going wrong, since what you see is not what we're getting for some reason. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users, please stop using inline pgp: this is deprecated. I know this is the default, because some ancient braindead mailclients from Redmond refuse to be stadard compliant. But who *cares* in here? So go to to your enigmail preferences and turn this annoying traditional pgp *OFF*. To the rest: Sorry for the noise. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpzV9rYWlM6d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 07:34:18PM +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote: I know this is the default, because some ancient braindead mailclients from Redmond refuse to be stadard compliant. But who *cares* in here? Uhm, actually, every enigmail setup I've used in the past 2 years has defaulted to PGP/MIME. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
On Friday 18 July 2008 01:34:18 pm Sebastian Günther wrote: Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users, please stop using inline pgp: this is deprecated. I know this is the default, because some ancient braindead mailclients from Redmond refuse to be stadard compliant. But who *cares* in here? So go to to your enigmail preferences and turn this annoying traditional pgp *OFF*. To the rest: Sorry for the noise. Sebastian I wish I could say I knew of what you are talking about, but I don't have a clue. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
Sebastian Günther wrote: Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users, please stop using inline pgp: this is deprecated. I know this is the default, because some ancient braindead mailclients from Redmond refuse to be stadard compliant. But who *cares* in here? So go to to your enigmail preferences and turn this annoying traditional pgp *OFF*. There are many procmail recipes floating around that convert inline pgp into mime. I see that you're a mutt user, so the closest example to hand is presumably /usr/share/doc/mutt/PGP-Notes.txt.gz. Or google will find numerous others, including others that have been posted to this very list. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 02:29:57PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: There are many procmail recipes floating around that convert inline pgp into mime. I see that you're a mutt user, so the closest example to hand is presumably /usr/share/doc/mutt/PGP-Notes.txt.gz. Or google will find numerous others, including others that have been posted to this very list. Not to mention given the choice of inline PGP and no PGP give me inline. At least the person is 1/2 way there. :D -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-07-18 19:34, Sebastian Günther wrote: Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users, please stop using inline pgp: this is deprecated. I know this is the default, because some ancient braindead mailclients from Redmond refuse to be stadard compliant. But who *cares* in here? So go to to your enigmail preferences and turn this annoying traditional pgp *OFF*. How would I do this? I think there used to be an option, but with my current icedove from lenny, I just can't find. it. [I know I shouldn't use such bloatware, but I'm so much used to it that it's really difficult to switch...] Ok, it seems (??) I found the trick: It is not in OpenPGP - Preferences. Instead write a new message; only this window appears to have the config option: OpenPGP - Default composition options - Signing/Encryption options finally check Always use PGP/Mime ...not exactly obvious. Maybe this explains. Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. Thanks, HTH, Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiA8kEACgkQC1NzPRl9qEUcfACeOljGwNkBqyr51PySuyocp+ve IUgAn0hZbAqTH5R5aOp2tfCzvpFAfUgn =dx+6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiA9BoACgkQC1NzPRl9qEW4rwCeLUhRdT18+mBwste3Nm5AwfSj 2UcAnR5BDCqMtZfCP95xgFcpekeXDmbn =MFob -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [18.07.08 20:30]: There are many procmail recipes floating around that convert inline pgp into mime. I see that you're a mutt user, so the closest example to hand is presumably /usr/share/doc/mutt/PGP-Notes.txt.gz. Or google will find numerous others, including others that have been posted to this very list. I don't use promail, and don't need to: mutt has an option, for not showing it: Also note that using the old-style PGP message format is strongly deprecated. (PGP only) pgp_auto_decode Type: boolean Default: no If set, mutt will automatically attempt to decrypt traditional PGP messages whenever the user performs an operation which ordinarily would result in the contents of the message being operated on. For example, if the user displays a pgp-traditional message which has not been manually checked with the check-traditional-pgp function, mutt will automatically check the message for traditional pgp. And I'm capable of typing ESC shift p. But I intentionally copied the last sentence of the option before. I think the most GUI Clients silently check for inline pgp, Thunderbird for sure. Since the most users, don't realize that they are using the old format, I thought I should make them aware of that. OK, I could blame enigmail for using this default, but I stated before, why it seems to be that way. But as the users intentionally choose to sign their messages, they could check the options, before using it. Most of all, it annoys me that all DSA messages are signed inline, therefor the rant. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpEW5TuEgc5O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/08 14:50, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiBGmYACgkQS9HxQb37XmdEiQCfYI3i0/nLbxbWp1g0H0kQRG7R WNwAoLvEwK/aYZJGH2L9+jKhXwAUucKM =HpQq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [19.07.08 00:34]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/08 14:50, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-07-18 21:42, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Since I am not really sure if this will work now, I'd appreciate a short feed back. I guess, I should have restarted thunderbird in order for this to take effect... gbbblll Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options Using it neither, SCNR. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiBGmYACgkQS9HxQb37XmdEiQCfYI3i0/nLbxbWp1g0H0kQRG7R WNwAoLvEwK/aYZJGH2L9+jKhXwAUucKM =HpQq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpZ7iTo6zKRn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [rant] Dear Thunderbird/Enigmail users
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:34:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Finding the button to turn on PGP/MIME is no easy feat. For anyone looking, it's: Compose Window-OpenPGP-Default Composition Options- Signing/Encryption Options Or Edit-Account DefaultsOpenPGP-Always use PGP/MIME. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
