Re: [solved]Re: Converting text subtitles to vobsub
Hi, On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:10:49 +0100 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-06-24 11:32, Michael Lange wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:23:15 +0100 > > mick crane wrote: > > > > (...) > >> > which seems to work well here). > >> > The feature set this app offers looks rather impressive, obviously > >> > it's far superior to similar programs that come with debian. And it > >> > can create > >> > good looking vobsub subtitles in less than one minute. > > (...) > >> > >> That seems quick. > >> Any idea what this software does to "burn" text over video ? > >> extracting frames then combining with text for duration in .srt file > >> and putting them back would take ages I would imagine. > > > > it does not "burn" them, but creates separate vobsub subtitles (a .sub > > plus an .idx file), that's the point :) > > I can add these to an .mkv file along with an .srt or .ass subtitle > > track, so I can pick which one to use depending on the player. Or I > > can even turn them off. > > > > So it sort of merges the streams. > I thought you were supposed never to cross the streams. no, SubtitleEdit actually does not know about the video stream. You can just open the .srt or .ass or whatever subtitle file and then convert it to the vobsub .sub/.idx pair, just like you can convert an .srt file to .ass with gnome-subtitles or other similar programs. These can be added as optional subtitle stream in an .mkv container or just stored separately next to the video, just like .srt or other text subtitles. Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. [War] is instinctive. But the instinct can be fought. We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands! But we can stop it. We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! -- Kirk, "A Taste of Armageddon", stardate 3193.0
Re: [solved]Re: Converting text subtitles to vobsub
On 2019-06-24 11:32, Michael Lange wrote: Hi, On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:23:15 +0100 mick crane wrote: (...) > which seems to work well here). > The feature set this app offers looks rather impressive, obviously > it's far superior to similar programs that come with debian. And it > can create > good looking vobsub subtitles in less than one minute. (...) That seems quick. Any idea what this software does to "burn" text over video ? extracting frames then combining with text for duration in .srt file and putting them back would take ages I would imagine. it does not "burn" them, but creates separate vobsub subtitles (a .sub plus an .idx file), that's the point :) I can add these to an .mkv file along with an .srt or .ass subtitle track, so I can pick which one to use depending on the player. Or I can even turn them off. So it sort of merges the streams. I thought you were supposed never to cross the streams. Regards Michael P.S.: for the archives, in case someone looks here: I tried other versions of SubtitleEdit, v. 353 seems to be the latest one that works properly with Stretch. When exporting to vobsub, on linux for some reason the "Simple rendering" option in the dialog box needs to be checked (seems to be the case with any version). .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. "That unit is a woman." "A mass of conflicting impulses." -- Spock and Nomad, "The Changeling", stardate 3541.9 -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: [solved]Re: Converting text subtitles to vobsub
> I was finally able to find an app which does what I want > (https://www.nikse.dk/subtitleedit/) Any chance this can be packaged for Debian? Stefan
Re: [solved]Re: Converting text subtitles to vobsub
Hi, On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:23:15 +0100 mick crane wrote: (...) > > which seems to work well here). > > The feature set this app offers looks rather impressive, obviously > > it's far superior to similar programs that come with debian. And it > > can create > > good looking vobsub subtitles in less than one minute. (...) > > That seems quick. > Any idea what this software does to "burn" text over video ? > extracting frames then combining with text for duration in .srt file > and putting them back would take ages I would imagine. it does not "burn" them, but creates separate vobsub subtitles (a .sub plus an .idx file), that's the point :) I can add these to an .mkv file along with an .srt or .ass subtitle track, so I can pick which one to use depending on the player. Or I can even turn them off. Seems like there is no (or at least no easy) way to do this with debian tools. This program renders these subtitles so that they look good, similar to the optional subtitle streams that are sometimes used by TV stations, other windows programs I tried produced only more or less ugly ones. Plus it is open source :) Regards Michael P.S.: for the archives, in case someone looks here: I tried other versions of SubtitleEdit, v. 353 seems to be the latest one that works properly with Stretch. When exporting to vobsub, on linux for some reason the "Simple rendering" option in the dialog box needs to be checked (seems to be the case with any version). .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. "That unit is a woman." "A mass of conflicting impulses." -- Spock and Nomad, "The Changeling", stardate 3541.9
Re: [solved]Re: Converting text subtitles to vobsub
On 2019-06-23 15:31, Michael Lange wrote: Hi, On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 12:54:30 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: Michael Lange (12019-06-22): > I did investigate some more, now as far as I can see this is actually > not true. spumux only creates a .sub file but the .idx file is > missing. This seems to be no good except with DVDs. Besides, there > seems only to be the choice between 25.0 and 29,97 fps framerates > (PAL/NTSC) which is too bad if the video is 23.976 fps :( Indeed, because vobsub is a bastard format built on top of a crappy format. You need spumux to produce spu packets and mux them into a MPEG-PS stream, and then you need a DVD ripping tool to butcher the MPEG-PS stream and chop the pair of final files. I was finally able to find an app which does what I want (https://www.nikse.dk/subtitleedit/) It's a windows program, too, but it is GPL and can be run on debian with mono (the latest version 359 did not work perfectly here with Stretch for some reason, maybe Stretch's mono is too old or maybe it's something else; so I followed someone's suggestion and tried an older version (343) which seems to work well here). The feature set this app offers looks rather impressive, obviously it's far superior to similar programs that come with debian. And it can create good looking vobsub subtitles in less than one minute. Just in case someone comes here looking for help: you can download the zip file with the portable version, unpack it and then run # mono SubtitleEdit.exe which should launch the application window. To create vobsub files you can (once the original subtitles are opened) go to File -> Export -> VobSub (sub/idx)... which should open a dialog box where the properties of the vobsub file can be configured and finally press the "Export all lines..." button which will start the procedure. Regards Michael That seems quick. Any idea what this software does to "burn" text over video ? extracting frames then combining with text for duration in .srt file and putting them back would take ages I would imagine. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
[solved]Re: Converting text subtitles to vobsub
Hi, On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 12:54:30 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > Michael Lange (12019-06-22): > > I did investigate some more, now as far as I can see this is actually > > not true. spumux only creates a .sub file but the .idx file is > > missing. This seems to be no good except with DVDs. Besides, there > > seems only to be the choice between 25.0 and 29,97 fps framerates > > (PAL/NTSC) which is too bad if the video is 23.976 fps :( > > Indeed, because vobsub is a bastard format built on top of a crappy > format. You need spumux to produce spu packets and mux them into a > MPEG-PS stream, and then you need a DVD ripping tool to butcher the > MPEG-PS stream and chop the pair of final files. I was finally able to find an app which does what I want (https://www.nikse.dk/subtitleedit/) It's a windows program, too, but it is GPL and can be run on debian with mono (the latest version 359 did not work perfectly here with Stretch for some reason, maybe Stretch's mono is too old or maybe it's something else; so I followed someone's suggestion and tried an older version (343) which seems to work well here). The feature set this app offers looks rather impressive, obviously it's far superior to similar programs that come with debian. And it can create good looking vobsub subtitles in less than one minute. Just in case someone comes here looking for help: you can download the zip file with the portable version, unpack it and then run # mono SubtitleEdit.exe which should launch the application window. To create vobsub files you can (once the original subtitles are opened) go to File -> Export -> VobSub (sub/idx)... which should open a dialog box where the properties of the vobsub file can be configured and finally press the "Export all lines..." button which will start the procedure. Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. Men will always be men -- no matter where they are. -- Harry Mudd, "Mudd's Women", stardate 1329.8
