Re: [users] Unkillable process
also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. there is no way you can remove it without a reboot. the process is in uniterruptible sleep state (implying it's doing some kind of i/o), but it's definitely not interested in handling signals (even SIGKILL, which you're the kernel isn't supposed to let you ignore). had plenty of them, never succeeded without a reboot. but what do you care? just leave them? they aren't eating anything away. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- prepBut nI vrbLike adjHungarian! qWhat's artThe adjBig nProblem? -- alec flett @netscape
Re: [users] Unkillable process
%% MaD dUCK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: md also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin md this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead md process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. It's possible, under severe error conditions, to get processes which won't respond to kill -9 on any kernel. The KILL signal may not be blocked by the process in user space, but that doesn't mean that it can't be blocked by the kernel in kernel space, and it often is. Simply whacking a process within the kernel at the instant you kill -9 would leave all sorts of resources unreleased, etc. etc. Remember that when you kill a user process the kernel cleans up all its memory, open file descriptors, etc. after it. If you kill a process within the kernel, who cleans up after that? Thus, the kernel doesn't allow processes to just disappear no matter what state they may be in within the kernel itself. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]HASMAT--HA Software Methods Tools Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
Re: [users] Unkillable process
also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. there is no way you can remove it without a reboot. the process is in uniterruptible sleep state (implying it's doing some kind of i/o), but it's definitely not interested in handling signals (even SIGKILL, which you're the kernel isn't supposed to let you ignore). had plenty of them, never succeeded without a reboot. but what do you care? just leave them? they aren't eating anything away. Thanks. Problem is this: now that I have a dead mozilla process in the background, netscape doesnt want to run without manual interaction (when I run netscape as that user, I'll have to manually kill a process that pops up because netscape saw a mozilla process already running). It's not bad, but it gets kinda messy after a while. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 --
Re: [users] Unkillable process
On Wed, 23 May 2001, MaD dUCK wrote: also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead I believe this was corrected in kernel 2.4.4 as I got such process when running 2.4.3 on a SMP machine. BTW, only a reboot will kill such processes, as said bellow by MaD dUCK. process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. there is no way you can remove it without a reboot. the process is in uniterruptible sleep state (implying it's doing some kind of i/o), but it's definitely not interested in handling signals (even SIGKILL, which you're the kernel isn't supposed to let you ignore). had plenty of them, never succeeded without a reboot. but what do you care? just leave them? they aren't eating anything away. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- prepBut nI vrbLike adjHungarian! qWhat's artThe adjBig nProblem? -- alec flett @netscape -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
