Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:09:52 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Done. > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625128 Uh? They have closed the bug because it's a Firefox problem. Indeed, I was in doubt in who to "blame" here. Well, going to Mozilla bugzilla, it seems there is a bug¹ (still?) open since... year 2000! How nice >>:-) ¹ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56662 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.25.11.34...@gmail.com
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Johan Grönqvist wrote: > 2010-07-23 12:11, Merciadri Luca skrev: >> Camaleón wrote: >>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:25:15 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: >>> >>> You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no >>> problem with that. >>> >> Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! > > Are you aware that pressing ctrl+l (for location, I assume) in that > dialog box opens an address field (input box) with autocompletion such > that you can (e.g.) type "/usr/bin/ki" and make a choice between all > binaries that start with "ki"? No. I learnt something. Thanks for pointing this out. This might be useful to other persons as well. > (I still agree that your suggestion would be simpler.) Yes, sure. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Pure love and suspicion cannot dwell together: at the door where the latter enters, the former makes its exit. (Alexandre Dumas) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Op 23-07-10 18:26, Erwan David schreef: > > What about kile? The question of the OP was the "Save as..." option in > iceweasel/icedove, which indeed opens the gnome "save file"-box (or > whatever it is named). This box is not so convenient, as the OP has > explained. It is certainly not the KDE "Save file"-box, as that one does > have the options sought after by the OP. So yes, it's gnome and the > choice by Debian/iceweasel to use the gnome "Save file"-box Sure, there's no link with Kile! This was only an example. I did not understand Mr. Erwan David's message. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Do all the good you can, By all the means you can, In all the ways you can, In all the places you can, At all the times you can, To all the people you can, As long as ever you can. (John Wesley) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Op 23-07-10 18:26, Erwan David schreef: > Le Fri 23/07/2010, Sjoerd Hardeman disait >> Merciadri Luca schreef: >>> ... You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no problem with that. >>> Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! >> True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve >> it. Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might. >> > gnome or rather the software used by OP. I do not see it is gnome related (and > kile sounds to me rather kedish than gnomish.) What about kile? The question of the OP was the "Save as..." option in iceweasel/icedove, which indeed opens the gnome "save file"-box (or whatever it is named). This box is not so convenient, as the OP has explained. It is certainly not the KDE "Save file"-box, as that one does have the options sought after by the OP. So yes, it's gnome and the choice by Debian/iceweasel to use the gnome "Save file"-box. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
2010-07-23 12:11, Merciadri Luca skrev: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:25:15 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no problem with that. Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! Are you aware that pressing ctrl+l (for location, I assume) in that dialog box opens an address field (input box) with autocompletion such that you can (e.g.) type "/usr/bin/ki" and make a choice between all binaries that start with "ki"? (I still agree that your suggestion would be simpler.) Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2e1i0$9e...@dough.gmane.org
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Le Fri 23/07/2010, Sjoerd Hardeman disait > Merciadri Luca schreef: > >... > >>You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I > >>have no problem with that. > >Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! > True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve > it. Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might. > gnome or rather the software used by OP. I do not see it is gnome related (and kile sounds to me rather kedish than gnomish.) -- Erwan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100723162615.gd35...@rail.eu.org
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Done. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625128 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> >> >> >>> Camaleón wrote: >>> >>> >> >> >> You can fill an "Enhancement" bug. Here is the list of the possible severity fields you can use: *** https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#severity (...) EnhancementRequest for a new feature or functionality. *** >>> Thanks. And which package should it belong to? (I don't know GNOME >>> sufficiently to guess what to choose in the list.) >>> >>> >> I'd use "Desktop → Nautilus" or something under "Usability" (whether >> available). >> >> But do not care much about the correct classification. If you put it >> wrong, a devel (or person in the know) will "reclassify" it. >> >> > Thanks. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure about Nautilus. > > -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. (Abraham Lincoln) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> Camaleón wrote: >> > > >>> You can fill an "Enhancement" bug. >>> >>> Here is the list of the possible severity fields you can use: >>> >>> *** >>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#severity >>> >>> (...) >>> Enhancement Request for a new feature or functionality. *** >>> >>> >> Thanks. And which package should it belong to? (I don't know GNOME >> sufficiently to guess what to choose in the list.) >> > > I'd use "Desktop → Nautilus" or something under "Usability" (whether > available). > > But do not care much about the correct classification. If you put it > wrong, a devel (or person in the know) will "reclassify" it. > Thanks. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure about Nautilus. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> You can fill an "Enhancement" bug. >> >> Here is the list of the possible severity fields you can use: >> >> *** >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#severity >> >> (...) >> Enhancement Request for a new feature or functionality. *** >> > Thanks. And which package should it belong to? (I don't know GNOME > sufficiently to guess what to choose in the list.) I'd use "Desktop → Nautilus" or something under "Usability" (whether available). But do not care much about the correct classification. If you put it wrong, a devel (or person in the know) will "reclassify" it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.23.14.05...@gmail.com
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:28:53 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >> >>> Merciadri Luca schreef: >>> > > I could not find where to post it. http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo >>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi >>> > > >> Thanks. I looked for `gnome-upstream', that's why I never found this. >> Right, but this is not a bug and there seems to be no way to post >> something else than a bug report (the first page does not offer you this >> option too). >> > > You can fill an "Enhancement" bug. > > Here is the list of the possible severity fields you can use: > > *** > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#severity > > (...) > Enhancement Request for a new feature or functionality. > *** > Thanks. And which package should it belong to? (I don't know GNOME sufficiently to guess what to choose in the list.) -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. The love that lasts the longer is the one which is never returned. (William Somerset Maugham) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:28:53 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >> Merciadri Luca schreef: >>> I could not find where to post it. >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi > Thanks. I looked for `gnome-upstream', that's why I never found this. > Right, but this is not a bug and there seems to be no way to post > something else than a bug report (the first page does not offer you this > option too). You can fill an "Enhancement" bug. Here is the list of the possible severity fields you can use: *** https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#severity (...) Enhancement Request for a new feature or functionality. *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.23.13.40...@gmail.com
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Merciadri Luca schreef: >> Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >>> Merciadri Luca schreef: ... > You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have > no problem with that. > Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! >>> True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve it. >>> Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might. >>> >> I could not find where to post it. >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi Thanks. I looked for `gnome-upstream', that's why I never found this. Right, but this is not a bug and there seems to be no way to post something else than a bug report (the first page does not offer you this option too). -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. (Conficius) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Merciadri Luca schreef: Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Merciadri Luca schreef: ... You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no problem with that. Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve it. Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might. I could not find where to post it. http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Merciadri Luca schreef: >> ... >>> You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have >>> no problem with that. >>> >> Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! > True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve it. > Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might. > I could not find where to post it. http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today. (Abraham Lincoln) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:11:53 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> Are you saying that when you select "Open with..." and choose an >> application the file gets downloaded to "/tmp" and does not get opened? >> > No, it gets opened, but this is actually also a `file saving.' > (Everybody knows it, but, strictly speaking, `Open' is error-prone.) Okay then. (...) >> You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no >> problem with that. >> > Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! I agree. It should be desirable to have such "auto-binary-search" option. But I dunno who to "blame" here (GNOME file browser could indeed add that option but it will require a UI redesign -it is already there, but in other place, not in file browser UI-, and Firefox/Iceweasel could also improve the current status of the" Open with" window manager...). Mmm... hard choice. Let's blame both :-P (just kidding) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.23.11.13...@gmail.com
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Merciadri Luca schreef: ... You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no problem with that. Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve it. Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:25:15 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> When opening a (downloaded) file, the Debian user is often (if not >> always) asked if he wants to open it, or to save it. Well, actually, >> opening it saves it in /tmp/, but that's not a problem. >> > > Are you saying that when you select "Open with..." and choose an > application the file gets downloaded to "/tmp" and does not get opened? > No, it gets opened, but this is actually also a `file saving.' (Everybody knows it, but, strictly speaking, `Open' is error-prone.) >> :-? >> ? >> The problem is that ticking `Open with' only gives you a list of >> choices. >> > > The ones that are recognized by the OS in the "mimetype" database. > Yes. >> You can choose `Other' and it directly opens ~/ so that you can >> select the binary which can render the related file. >> > > Yep, in GNOME it opens the standard "file browse" menu. > > >> The problem is that >> it's >> * basically easier to write a command, i.e. at the place of `Open with >> ... Other', it could be interesting to have a box where you can write >> e.g. `kile' if you want the file to be opened with `kile', etc.; >> > > Sure. > > >> * not >> often possible for the user to select a binary which is not in his >> directories. >> > > You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no > problem with that. > Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box! > For commom application extensions (.pdf, .tiff, etc...), it is useful to > add them in Icewesel (programs) in order to get the right applications > displayed when you select "Open with...". > Yes. I did it. ;) -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: `Open with ...' -> Use command too
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:25:15 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > When opening a (downloaded) file, the Debian user is often (if not > always) asked if he wants to open it, or to save it. Well, actually, > opening it saves it in /tmp/, but that's not a problem. Are you saying that when you select "Open with..." and choose an application the file gets downloaded to "/tmp" and does not get opened? >:-? > The problem is that ticking `Open with' only gives you a list of > choices. The ones that are recognized by the OS in the "mimetype" database. > You can choose `Other' and it directly opens ~/ so that you can > select the binary which can render the related file. Yep, in GNOME it opens the standard "file browse" menu. > The problem is that > it's > * basically easier to write a command, i.e. at the place of `Open with > ... Other', it could be interesting to have a box where you can write > e.g. `kile' if you want the file to be opened with `kile', etc.; Sure. > * not > often possible for the user to select a binary which is not in his > directories. You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no problem with that. For commom application extensions (.pdf, .tiff, etc...), it is useful to add them in Icewesel (programs) in order to get the right applications displayed when you select "Open with...". Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.23.08.58...@gmail.com
`Open with ...' -> Use command too
Hi, When opening a (downloaded) file, the Debian user is often (if not always) asked if he wants to open it, or to save it. Well, actually, opening it saves it in /tmp/, but that's not a problem. The problem is that ticking `Open with' only gives you a list of choices. You can choose `Other' and it directly opens ~/ so that you can select the binary which can render the related file. The problem is that it's * basically easier to write a command, i.e. at the place of `Open with ... Other', it could be interesting to have a box where you can write e.g. `kile' if you want the file to be opened with `kile', etc.; * not often possible for the user to select a binary which is not in his directories. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
