On Monday 01 December 2008 12:39 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote:
Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the
kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in synaptic, so now I'm in
the position of rebooting between
* Mark Neidorff [081207 17:30 +0100]
[...]
Assuming that it is the wrong version of ALSA, where can I find
detailed instructions for downloading and compiling the newer ALSA
kernel(?)/modules(?) so that I can use sound and VirtualBox at the
same time?
apt-get install alsa-source
read
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 11:28:33 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
On Monday 01 December 2008 12:39 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote:
Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the
kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in
On Sunday 07 December 2008 17:28, Mark Neidorff wrote:
On Monday 01 December 2008 12:39 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote:
Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the
kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:26:49PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
lee writes:
But how do know that there is voltage when you cannot measure it or
otherwise make evident that there is? As far as I understand it, you
cannot do that without current flowing. You can do it for water pressure
On Saturday 29 November 2008 07:20 pm, Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 14:11, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Hi Kelly.
I did see the Etchnhalf 2.6.24 kernel when looking at synaptic. I only
suggested the musix one, as I have it installed, and know it uses alsa
On Monday 01 December 2008 11:19, Mark Neidorff wrote:
On Saturday 29 November 2008 07:20 pm, Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 14:11, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Hi Kelly.
I did see the Etchnhalf 2.6.24 kernel when looking at synaptic. I only
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote:
Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the kernel
source. Of course, it is not listed in synaptic, so now I'm in the position
of rebooting between configurations that use sound and one where I can use
On Monday 01 December 2008 18:39, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote:
Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the
kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in synaptic, so now I'm in
the position of rebooting between
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 19:19:49, Nigel Henry wrote:
I'm not complaining, as I do have the Musix kernel installed, which has the
sounds working (alsa driver 1.0.16), but it is a bit bizarre that Dapper has
sound using the alsa driver 1.0.15, but etchnhalf, using the same alsa
driver, does not
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:32:24PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
Which is why is is important to correct misinformation on the list.
You got all wrong: People will start thinking you're a twat when you
try to do that ...
No, I'm not the one being called a twat. That only happens when
1.0.16, and my sound on Etch works ok with this.
If you want go this way, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list
deb ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/ ./
Hi Mark.
I see that the thread that you started with the subject of.
ALSA sound recording frustration has now moved
see that the thread that you started with the subject of.
ALSA sound recording frustration has now moved into a discussion of
electrical theory, which is not helping you with your problem.
Even though your subject line stated you had a recording problem, your
first 2 paragraphs indicated
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 08:27:02AM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:32:24PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
Which is why is is important to correct misinformation on the list.
You got all wrong: People will start thinking you're a twat when you
try to do that ...
No,
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 14:11, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Hi Kelly.
I did see the Etchnhalf 2.6.24 kernel when looking at synaptic. I only
suggested the musix one, as I have it installed, and know it uses alsa driver
1.0.16. I'm on dialup, and didn't want to download the
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:11:47 -0600
lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello lee,
flowing. And you still have voltage at your outlet, even though
no current is flowing.
How do you know?
Have you never studied electrical theory? Voltage, or Potential
Difference as it's also known, is always
I just had a long struggle with Alsa and Lenny as I had sound from
playing a cd but nothing from input to the mobo sound card. I finally
learned to switch the alsamixer to capture (tab) and try different
capture choices (arrows, space bar) until I found the correct setting.
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Subject: Re: ALSA sound recording frustration
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:15:50 -0600
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:06:42PM +0200, Rob de Graaf wrote:
The headphone connector is for headphones
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:37:26PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
But how do know that there is voltage when you cannot measure it or
otherwise make evident that there is? As far as I understand it, you
cannot do that without current flowing. You can do it for water
pressure without water
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 09:16:02AM +, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:11:47 -0600
lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello lee,
flowing. And you still have voltage at your outlet, even though
no current is flowing.
How do you know?
Have you never studied electrical
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:43:41PM -0600, lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:37:26PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
But how do know that there is voltage when you cannot measure it or
otherwise make evident that there is? As far as I understand it, you
cannot do that without
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If you have a multimeter that can measure voltage or current, both
modes
lee escreveu:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If you have a multimeter that can measure voltage
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:45:39 -0600
lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello lee,
Hm, I'm not sure what you mean by electrical theory.
The study of electricity.
Voltage, or Potential Difference as it's also known, is always
there.
Still, how do you know that? :)
Oh, I see, you're being a
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 13:10:32 -0600, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If you have a
lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:37:26PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
But how do know that there is voltage when you cannot measure it or
otherwise make evident that there is? As far as I understand it, you
cannot do that without current flowing. You can do it for water
pressure
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If you have a multimeter that can measure voltage or current,
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If you have a multimeter
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:43:28PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Of course. That's what voltage is.
Hm, true, voltage is impossible without current flowing because of how
voltage is defined. No current -- no voltage, and voltage is
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 01:10:32PM -0600, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If you have a
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:13:21PM -0500, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
You mean, in principle? Of course.
Put your two wires of unknown potential difference at
opposite ends of an evacuated tube.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:19:13PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 01:10:32PM -0600, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:40:45PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
It's likely that voltage and water pressure exist even when you don't
measure them, but without measuring them (or otherwise observing their
effects), you don't know that they do. Not oberserving something
doesn't mean that
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:29:45PM +, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:45:39 -0600
lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm, I'm not sure what you mean by electrical theory.
The study of electricity.
No, I didn't really study that.
Voltage, or Potential Difference as it's also
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:43:28PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Of course. That's what voltage is.
Hm, true, voltage is impossible without current flowing because of how
voltage is defined. No current -- no voltage, and
Ken Irving wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 01:10:32PM -0600, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two connectors and shows the potential differences
between them.
This is unlike an Ampermeter that shows the current flowing through it.
If
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:48:59PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:43:28PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Of course. That's what voltage is.
Hm, true, voltage is impossible without current flowing because of
On Friday 2008 November 28 15:28, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:13:21PM -0500, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
You mean, in principle? Of course.
It takes energy to defect particles or to change
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:48:59PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:43:28PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Of course. That's what voltage is.
Hm, true,
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:14:16PM -0600, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:48:59PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:43:28PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Of course. That's what voltage is.
Hm,
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Subject: Re: OT: volt and current (ALSA sound recording frustration)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:16:47 -0200
lee escreveu:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:59:06PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
A voltmeter has two
. Problems can arise when you use repo pick and mix.
If you still have no sound, post back.
All the best.
Nigel.
Hi Mark.
I see that the thread that you started with the subject of.
ALSA sound recording frustration has now moved into a discussion of
electrical theory, which is not helping you
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:24:18PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
I'm no EE, and I may be wrong about this, but I think you're confusing
voltage (difference in potential) with volt (a specific amount of
difference in potential).
You are right, I confused that, sorry.
--
Don't let them, daddy.
lee writes:
But how do know that there is voltage when you cannot measure it or
otherwise make evident that there is? As far as I understand it, you
cannot do that without current flowing. You can do it for water pressure
without water flowing, but I don't see how you could do it for voltage
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:01:01AM -0600, lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
also want to be able to record sound from the stereo headphones jack of my
radio and the stereo audio out from my XM radio.
The headphone connector is for headphones, it
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:48:59PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:43:28PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Of course. That's what voltage is.
Hm, true, voltage is impossible without current flowing
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Friday 2008 November 28 15:28, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:13:21PM -0500, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
You mean, in principle? Of course.
It takes energy to
On Friday 2008 November 28 17:36, Napoleon wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Friday 2008 November 28 15:28, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:13:21PM -0500, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
You
On Friday 28 November 2008 16:28, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:13:21PM -0500, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
You mean, in principle? Of course.
Put your two wires of unknown potential
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:36:58PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Friday 2008 November 28 15:28, lee wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:13:21PM -0500, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 14:10, lee wrote:
Is it even possible to measure a mere potential?
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:01:01AM -0600, lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
also want to be able to record sound from the stereo headphones jack of my
radio and the stereo audio out from my XM radio.
The headphone connector is for
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:10:17PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote:
BTW, I agree a bit with an earlier poster that you a being a bit of a
twat. This mailing list isn't really appropriate for epistemological
discussions.
Me, three.
One more.
Hm, it's interesting to see how unfriendly this
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:32:24PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
Which is why is is important to correct misinformation on the list.
You got all wrong: People will start thinking you're a twat when you
try to do that ...
--
Don't let them, daddy. Don't let the stars run down.
Hi All,
In case I have to say it, I'm very frustrated trying to get ALSA sound working
on my Debian ETCH (up to date) box.
My motherboard has built-in sound. Needless to say, I want to hear sound. I
also want to be able to record sound from the stereo headphones jack of my
radio and the
On Thursday 27 November 2008 15:38, Mark Neidorff wrote:
Hi All,
In case I have to say it, I'm very frustrated trying to get ALSA sound
working on my Debian ETCH (up to date) box.
My motherboard has built-in sound. Needless to say, I want to hear sound.
I also want to be able to record
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
also want to be able to record sound from the stereo headphones jack of my
radio and the stereo audio out from my XM radio.
The headphone connector is for headphones, it is not for connecting
recording devices: If the voltage
Mark Neidorff wrote:
Is there anything else you need to know about my system to help me get sound
working?
PLEASE HELP me get sound working.
To list the recording devices on your system use the command:
$ arecord -l
..snip..
card 1: M2496 [M Audio Audiophile 24/96], device 0: ICE1712
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 18:01 +0100, lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
also want to be able to record sound from the stereo headphones jack
of my
radio and the stereo audio out from my XM radio.
The headphone connector is for headphones, it is not
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:06:42PM +0200, Rob de Graaf wrote:
The headphone connector is for headphones, it is not for connecting
recording devices: If the voltage and/or current are too high/much,
you can damage the soundcard.
An input which measures voltages (here the microphone input)
lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:06:42PM +0200, Rob de Graaf wrote:
The headphone connector is for headphones, it is not for connecting
recording devices: If the voltage and/or current are too high/much,
you can damage the soundcard.
An input which measures voltages (here the microphone
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:11:31PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:06:42PM +0200, Rob de Graaf wrote:
An input which measures voltages (here the microphone input) has
infinite large impedance, hence no current will flow.
How can there be voltage (or voltage
Napoleon writes:
Without getting into the more technical stuff, for correct operation
impedances need to match. Any mismatch lower performance. A small
mismatch probably won't be noticed but a larger one will.
You need an impedance match for maximum power transfer but that is rarely
what is
John Hasler wrote:
Napoleon writes:
Without getting into the more technical stuff, for correct operation
impedances need to match. Any mismatch lower performance. A small
mismatch probably won't be noticed but a larger one will.
You need an impedance match for maximum power transfer but
lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:11:31PM -0500, Napoleon wrote:
lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:06:42PM +0200, Rob de Graaf wrote:
An input which measures voltages (here the microphone input) has
infinite large impedance, hence no current will flow.
How can there be voltage (or
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