Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-19 Thread Steven Rosenberg

On 07/11/2012 08:09 AM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 11/07/12 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

(please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )


Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade
Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg.

(...)

In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to
install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in this
Debian's forum thread):

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library) would
be better, though...

Greetings,


The problem with using AMD's drivers is that they aren't always current
with the latest X.org. That's probably why there is no fglrx-driver in
the current Wheezy repositories. Moreover, the driver will likely break
later as Wheezy evolves.

I've been down this route myself. Eventually I just settled on the open
source drivers. They work well and are kept updated. The proprietary
drivers are just too much work when running debian/testing.




+1 on this. I just don't think fglrx is worth the trouble.


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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-19 Thread Adrian Fita
On 11/07/12 18:23, Camaleón wrote:

[...]

 IIRC, the open source driver still has some problems with powersaving.

This ^. This is the reason I'm stuck with the xorg packets put on hold
for several months now and I can't upgrade them. Unfortunately I'm
having one of those ATi Radeon graphics chipsets that won't be supported
anymore with the new fglrx driver which is compatible with the xorg 1.12
ABI. I tried the open source radeon driver but it just doesn't cut it
for me. When I run the radeon driver the fan is spinning like mad,
making the machine very noisy; with fglrx the fan starts only when there
is high CPU/graphics activity. I tried all the sugestions regarding
slowing down the chip with the radeon driver (echo profile 
/sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method; echo low 
/sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile), but I couldn't bring down
the temperature enough so the fan would stop whining. So until the open
source radeon improves the power management I'll keep fglrx and xorg 1.11.

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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

(please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )

 Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
 propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade
 Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
 Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg.

(...)

In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to 
install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in this 
Debian's forum thread):

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library) would 
be better, though...

Greetings,

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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-11 Thread Gary Dale

On 11/07/12 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

(please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )


Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade
Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg.

(...)

In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to
install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in this
Debian's forum thread):

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library) would
be better, though...

Greetings,

The problem with using AMD's drivers is that they aren't always current 
with the latest X.org. That's probably why there is no fglrx-driver in 
the current Wheezy repositories. Moreover, the driver will likely break 
later as Wheezy evolves.


I've been down this route myself. Eventually I just settled on the open 
source drivers. They work well and are kept updated. The proprietary 
drivers are just too much work when running debian/testing.



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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-11 Thread lina
Today I tried the sid one fglrx-driver and the xserver-xorg* in wheezy box.

It's reported segmental fault.

Fixed by following the advice downgrading the xserver-xorg, at the
same time, the fglrx-driver is from wheezy-backports.
so it came as old days.


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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-11 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:09:49 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 On 11/07/12 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

 (please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )

 Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
 propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to
 downgrade Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
 Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new
 XOrg.
 (...)

 In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to
 install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in
 this Debian's forum thread):

 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

 Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library)
 would be better, though...


 The problem with using AMD's drivers is that they aren't always current
 with the latest X.org. That's probably why there is no fglrx-driver in
 the current Wheezy repositories. Moreover, the driver will likely break
 later as Wheezy evolves.

That's the usual thing to happen and not only for ATI but also nvidia 
closed source drivers. It shouldn't be a problem if these drivers were 
ready for the xorg version in place. OTOH, when using a rolling release 
(as can be testing when not freezed) recompiling the closed source 
driver installed from upstream sources is a must when a new kernel is 
installed.

 I've been down this route myself. Eventually I just settled on the open
 source drivers. They work well and are kept updated. The proprietary
 drivers are just too much work when running debian/testing.

IIRC, the open source driver still has some problems with powersaving.

Greetings,

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ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-10 Thread Ezequiel
Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI propietary
driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade Xserver to a
version prior to 1.12.
Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg.

### All credit belongs to negafon from linuxquestions.org, I just added a
last step that will be needed if you don't have your kernel development kit
installed and shared his solution 

1-First, you must add the repos to dowgrade Xorg

*deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120515T220710Z/ wheezy main
deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120515T220710Z/ wheezy
main*

Tat's a snapshot from May 15, 2012 at 10:07PM

2-Create the file /etc/apt/preferences.d/60xorg_rollback.pref

*Package: xserver-xorg*
Pin: origin snapshot.debian.org
Pin-Priority: 1001 *

This makes the priority of snapshot.debian.org repos for xserver-xorg
package higher than any other, so it will install the version desired

3- In order to prevent apt check the date in the repos (this mechanism
prevents accidental installation of older software), we create a file
called /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/60ignore_repo_date_check

*Acquire
{
Check-Valid-Until false;
} *

4- We make the changes and downgrade xserver-xorg package

as root:*

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade*

5- Finally, download the ati propietary driver from
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx and run

# sh ./amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run

If you don't have your kernel headers installed, you will need to install
them with the good old

*# aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)*

If the driver doesn't compile properly, you can have a look at /usr/share/*
ati*/fglrx-*install*.*log*

If you still have problems with kernel dependencies, the rude way to
install all necessary packages is
*
# aptitude install module-assistant
# m-a update
# m-a prepare

*I hope you find this useful as I did. The original post from
linuxquestions can be found at
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/how-do-i-get-my-fglrx-driver-back-946102/

I must apologize for my limited English writing, I hope you'll understand
this limitation. Please feel free to make any correction at my spelling or
grammar errors.

Saludos!

Zeke

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