Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:47:29PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote: The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Davies
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: You don't need to remove NM. I have it managing my wifi and 3G connections, but manage eth0 via ifupdown (and attach it to a bridge). That's what I have at the moment, and NM gets itself in a tizzy when I want to use eth0 as my primary connection and borks my

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
I'm sorry for the tardy response - IceDove hid a load of Debian list mail in Junk. On 29/06/12 18:06, Camaleón wrote: Maybe is time now for you to tell us more about the kind of VM you are planning to use... Testing on the same subnet :) I still don't see the relation of using N-M and the

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
On 29/06/12 17:34, Neal Murphy wrote: (...) another program running whose sole purpose is to slurp CPU cycles, take up screen real estate I'm all for machine efficiency, but I don't find NM to do either of those. On a laptop, I find it sacrifices my human efficiency to /not/ have it. and

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-02 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:14:02 +0100, Steve Dowe wrote: I'm sorry for the tardy response - IceDove hid a load of Debian list mail in Junk. On 29/06/12 18:06, Camaleón wrote: Maybe is time now for you to tell us more about the kind of VM you are planning to use... Testing on the same

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
On 29/06/12 23:47, Chris Davies wrote: Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote: The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection.

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
On 02/07/12 17:34, Camaleón wrote: Testing on the same subnet :) Yes but what solution? KVM, VMware, Xen, VirtualBox... Oh heck, sorry. It's KVM. I thought I'd mentioned that. Oops. Basically, you need eth0 bridged (using br0) to allow other virtual machines to pick up an IP address on

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 02 July 2012 12:30:32 Steve Dowe wrote: On 29/06/12 17:34, Neal Murphy wrote: The bridge device (e.g. br0) is a network interface. The NIC is a network interface. The tap device (e.g. tap0) appears as a network interface to the VM. A bridge device doesn't need a real NIC to

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-30 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote: Hello, I have absolutely no doubt that someone reading this list knows more than I do on this.. :) The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Arun Khan a écrit : When you use bridge: To the best of my knowledge - the IP is assigned to the bridge and *not* eth0 the physical interface. eth0 should *not* have any IP assigned to it. Except in some very specific situations. Exemple : you want the box act as a bridge with some

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote: The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection. If I

Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Steve Dowe
Hello, I have absolutely no doubt that someone reading this list knows more than I do on this.. :) The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:02:57 +0100, Steve Dowe wrote: (...) If I edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and change [ifupdown] managed=false to [ifupdown] managed=true then eth0 and br0 both pick up the same IP address. Mmm... and what's what you want to bridge? Remember

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Steve Dowe
On 29/06/12 15:34, Camaleón wrote: If I edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and change [ifupdown] managed=false to [ifupdown] managed=true then eth0 and br0 both pick up the same IP address. Mmm... and what's what you want to bridge? Remember that any bridge needs at

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:08:26 +0100, Steve Dowe wrote: On 29/06/12 15:34, Camaleón wrote: Mmm... and what's what you want to bridge? Remember that any bridge needs at least two end points. My intention is allow my ethernet interface to be allocated as many IPs on my local network as

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Steve Dowe
On 29/06/12 16:54, Camaleón wrote: Ah, then maybe you don't need a bridge but a virtual addressing layout: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface But that fixes the IP addresses both to my local network. The intended NM approach was to allow the

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Steve Dowe
On 29/06/12 17:19, Steve Dowe wrote: On 29/06/12 16:54, Camaleón wrote: Ah, then maybe you don't need a bridge but a virtual addressing layout: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface But that fixes the IP addresses both to my local network. The

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 29 June 2012 10:02:57 Steve Dowe wrote: Hello, I have absolutely no doubt that someone reading this list knows more than I do on this.. :) The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:19:27 +0100, Steve Dowe wrote: On 29/06/12 16:54, Camaleón wrote: Ah, then maybe you don't need a bridge but a virtual addressing layout: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface But that fixes the IP addresses both to my

Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-29 Thread Chris Davies
Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote: The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection. You can't do that :-( If you need a