Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Sep 2017 at 08:34:25 (-0300), Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 2017, David Wright wrote: > > "RPC portmapper replacement" needs to be shut down cleanly however > > long it takes. Likewise the "Color Profiles" manager which, while > > Because if it didn't exit, it most

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-09-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017, David Wright wrote: > "RPC portmapper replacement" needs to be shut down cleanly however > long it takes. Likewise the "Color Profiles" manager which, while Because if it didn't exit, it most likely means an NFS partition is still unmounting and you could incur data loss if

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-09-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 04:27:32PM +0200, Dan wrote: Hi, I have a NFS4 server with ext4. I'm moving to Debian Stretch. I wonder if I should switch to Btrfs. I like the checksum feature to prevent silent corruption. Lacking this feature in the filesystems I use for data storage (ext4 and

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Aug 2017 at 19:13:47 (+0200), Christian Seiler wrote: > Hi there, > > On 08/11/2017 06:29 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote: > > On 11-08-17, Christian Seiler wrote: > >> You can also set DefaultTimeoutStopSec= in /etc/systemd/system.conf > >> to alter the default for all units (though individual

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-12 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, August 11, 2017 11:03:38 PM Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 07:04:09AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 03:03:38AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 07:04:09AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > >

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 07:04:09AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Also, my use case is at home where the power can and *does* fail. I also >

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-11 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi there, On 08/11/2017 06:29 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 11-08-17, Christian Seiler wrote: >> You can also set DefaultTimeoutStopSec= in /etc/systemd/system.conf >> to alter the default for all units (though individual settings for >> units will still override that). >> > Thank you for

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-11 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 11-08-17, Christian Seiler wrote: > Am 2017-08-10 16:02, schrieb Dejan Jocic: > > On 10-08-17, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 10 Aug 2017 at 07:04:09 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + >

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-11 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2017-08-10 16:02, schrieb Dejan Jocic: On 10-08-17, David Wright wrote: On Thu 10 Aug 2017 at 07:04:09 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Also,

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 10/08/17 09:44 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 10 Aug 2017 at 07:04:09 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + Andy Smith wrote: Also, my use case is at home where the power can and

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 08:44:33AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 10 Aug 2017 at 07:04:09 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > > Also, my

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-10 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 10-08-17, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 10 Aug 2017 at 07:04:09 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > > Also, my use case is at home where the

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-10 Thread David Wright
On Thu 10 Aug 2017 at 07:04:09 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Also, my use case is at home where the power can and *does* fail. I also > > find

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:46:09PM -0400, David Niklas wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > Also, my use case is at home where the power can and *does* fail. I also > find myself using the latest kernel and oftentimes an experimental driver >

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-08-09 Thread David Niklas
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:59:40 + Andy Smith wrote: > > My understanding is that the only thing that prevents silent > > corruption in ext4 is the hard drive CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check > > Error). Is that enough for a server? > > No, not with multi-terabyte devices.

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-07-29 Thread Dan
Dear Andy, Thanks a lot for your answer. On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 04:27:32PM +0200, Dan wrote: >> I have a NFS4 server with ext4. I'm moving to Debian Stretch. I wonder if I >> should switch to Btrfs. > > I

Re: Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 04:27:32PM +0200, Dan wrote: > I have a NFS4 server with ext4. I'm moving to Debian Stretch. I wonder if I > should switch to Btrfs. I personally wouldn't. I do use btrfs at home and wish I didn't, will be moving away from it soon. Take a look at the archives of

Btrs vs ext4. Which one is more reliable?

2017-07-28 Thread Dan
Hi, I have a NFS4 server with ext4. I'm moving to Debian Stretch. I wonder if I should switch to Btrfs. I like the checksum feature to prevent silent corruption. My understanding is that the only thing that prevents silent corruption in ext4 is the hard drive CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check