Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Han Soo Chang wrote:
  Probably the upstream problem was resolved and this was then allowed.
  When external influences cause success and failure outside of your
  carefully designed experiment it can cause a lot of confusion.

 I would like to think so, too.  But, unfortunately, the error is still
 reproducible.
 I purge the package flashplugin-nonfree, and try to install it.
 Then, I still get the same error.
 So, the interpretation becomes difficult.
 Of course, the server may be still having some problem. :-)

That is really strange.  I can purge the package and install it
repeated with no problems.  I do not see any errors from it.

If you are motivated the update-flashplugin-nonfree is a script and
may be viewed and debugged fairly easily.  It might take a little bit
of effort but it isn't too hard.  I start with something like this:

  sh -x /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin-nonfree --install 21 | tee /tmp/fp.out

Then I look through the output and the script side by side.

  You can test this.  Type in:
 
$ sudo id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
 
$ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

 $ sudo id
 uid=0(root) gid=0(root) 所属グループ=0(root)

You are root with uid=0 and gid=0 so that is good and root won't have
any permission problems.

 $ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin

That is an okay PATH.  The X11R6 part is typical for Squeeze but is
dropped in Wheezy.  It was used in the older X Window System.  All
okay.  I had asked about PATH since in Wheezy the sudo PATH
configuration changes and the change has caused some trouble with
missing directories.  The above is good.

 Well, it has been a quite instructive week for me.
 Thank you everyone.
 I now want to close this case.

Good luck!

Bob


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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-05-03, Han Soo Chang hansoo7...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I wonder whether this is because
 (1)  I mishandled my set up of sudo

The experts would need, I should think, to see your sudoers file to
confirm the least fanciful of your hypotheses.


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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Han Soo Chang wrote:
 Here is what happened.
 
 $sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 then I typed my password.
 -
 ERROR: wget failed to download

This is unllkely to have anything to do with either sudo or su.  I
think this failure is unrelated.

 I checked the following
 $ LANG=en_US.utf8 wget -v
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
 --2012-04-30http://people.debian.org/%7Ebartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc--2012-04-3014:42:43--
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
 Resolving ns14... 10.1.1.12
 Connecting to ns14|10.1.1.12|:8080... connected.
 Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 1273 (1.2K) [text/plain]
 fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc: Permission denied

That permission denied came from the server.  If you do not have
permission to write the local file the error would have said one of
these depending upon locale and wget version.

  Cannot write to “fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc” (Permission denied).
Or:
  Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).

And of course if you are root then root always (in a normal typical
system ignoring selinux, filesystem attributes, and other less common
configurations) has permission to write to the local filesystem.

 Next, I did this
 
 $su
 Then I typed my password
 # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 
 And it succeeded.

Probably the upstream problem was resolved and this was then allowed.
When external influences cause success and failure outside of your
carefully designed experiment it can cause a lot of confusion.

 So, it seems that when I invoked the command under sudo, the script
 invoked by the command tried to write a file to a directory, but
 failed because of denied permission.  But when I invoked it under
 superuser, it succeeded.

Again, I think this was due to upstream failures on the web server and
not related to your use of sudo or su.

 So, I wonder whether this is because
 (1)  I mishandled my set up of sudo

You can test this.  Type in:

  $ sudo id
  uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)

  $ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
  /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

 (2) this is a subtle bug of packaging of flashplugin-nonfree,

Perhaps.  There are some liberties taken with setting HOME so as to
work in the typical case.  Could be a problem for you.  But I doubt it.

 (3) this is a feature of flashplugin-nonfree package unavoidable for some
 security reason

I don't think so.

 (4) Debian culture commands that I become superuser instead of using sudo.

No.  Definitely not.  I think sudo is strongly in the Debian culture.
I usually give instructions using sudo.  Your view may be clouded by
who is most vocal in responding to messages *this week*.  But on
average it has a strong following.

Bob


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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-03 Thread Han Soo Chang
Thank you very much for your very thoughtful comments, Bob.
I truly appreciate them.
Actually, I was about to unsubscribe from the list when I found them. :-)

 Probably the upstream problem was resolved and this was then allowed.
 When external influences cause success and failure outside of your
 carefully designed experiment it can cause a lot of confusion.

I would like to think so, too.  But, unfortunately, the error is still
reproducible.
I purge the package flashplugin-nonfree, and try to install it.
Then, I still get the same error.
So, the interpretation becomes difficult.
Of course, the server may be still having some problem. :-)

 You can test this.  Type in:

   $ sudo id
   uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)

   $ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
   /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

$ sudo id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) 所属グループ=0(root)
$ sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin

Well, it has been a quite instructive week for me.
Thank you everyone.
I now want to close this case.

Greetings,
Han Soo


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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-02 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 05:07:26PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:05:28PM +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:
  Thanks for your help.
  
  It was just that I needed to apt-get install as root, not sudo apt-get.
  
  The following command
  # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
  worked just fine.
  
  $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
  failed because the invoked script probably did not have the write permission
  for a certain directory.
  
  This is a little bit confusing for a newbie like me.
  But, anyway, I can now see the videos on youtube.
 
 Just remember Debian isn't Ubuntu. When you see sudo blah blah blah
 just run blah blah blah as root¹.
 
 Ubuntu specifically sets up sudo, they don't like you being root!
 whereas, in Debian, ***YOU*** would have to install sudo and configure
 it to get the desired result. 
 
 ¹ su -c blah blah blah is probably better.
 

?
I use sudo all the time, and have done so for years.
'Course you have to install it, add your user to the 
sudo group, and edit /etc/sudoers with the visudo 
command first. But all that is very easy.
Install sudo and read man sudo.
Feel free to ask me if you need further help with it.

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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-02 Thread Han Soo Chang
Thanks for your response.

Yes, I installed sudo, and edited the confiugration file using visudo.
That was easy.
And I have been using sudo in all the cases where I needed to be root.
I believed that it gives me better security.

However, in this particular case of installing flashplugin-nonfree,
sudo apt-get failed, but su apt-get succeeded.

What I'm trying to say is that this could be interpreted as a subtle bug,
because it confuses a user like me.


2012/5/2, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com:
 On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 05:07:26PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:05:28PM +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:
  Thanks for your help.
 
  It was just that I needed to apt-get install as root, not sudo apt-get.
 
  The following command
  # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
  worked just fine.
 
  $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
  failed because the invoked script probably did not have the write
  permission
  for a certain directory.
 
  This is a little bit confusing for a newbie like me.
  But, anyway, I can now see the videos on youtube.

 Just remember Debian isn't Ubuntu. When you see sudo blah blah blah
 just run blah blah blah as root¹.

 Ubuntu specifically sets up sudo, they don't like you being root!
 whereas, in Debian, ***YOU*** would have to install sudo and configure
 it to get the desired result.

 ¹ su -c blah blah blah is probably better.


 ?
 I use sudo all the time, and have done so for years.
 'Course you have to install it, add your user to the
 sudo group, and edit /etc/sudoers with the visudo
 command first. But all that is very easy.
 Install sudo and read man sudo.
 Feel free to ask me if you need further help with it.

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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-02 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 04:37:16PM +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:
 Thanks for your response.
 
 Yes, I installed sudo, and edited the confiugration file using visudo.
 That was easy.
 And I have been using sudo in all the cases where I needed to be root.
 I believed that it gives me better security.
 
 However, in this particular case of installing flashplugin-nonfree,
 sudo apt-get failed, but su apt-get succeeded.
 
 What I'm trying to say is that this could be interpreted as a subtle bug,
 because it confuses a user like me.
 
 
I don't think it's a bug...
If you add your user to the sudo group and use the line:

yourusername   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

in /etc/sudoers, everything should work and you'll 
get no password prompt. Of course, replace youusername 
with your actual username. :) 

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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-02 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:

 I don't think it's a bug...
 If you add your user to the sudo group and use the line:

 yourusername   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

 in /etc/sudoers, everything should work and you'll
 get no password prompt. Of course, replace youusername
 with your actual username. :)

If you add your user account to /etc/sudoers, there's no need to be in
the sudo group.  The configuration in the default /etc/sudoers is
this:

# Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
# (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move
# it further down)
%sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL

You can just add the NOPASSWORD directive to that line (which I'd not
recommend) if you put the user in the sudo group thusly:

# usermod -G sudo -a username

My recommendation would be to simply use usermod to add your username
to the sudo group and call it done (do not edit /etc/sudoers at all).
You'll then get the same behavior that you see in Ubuntu (with the
exception that root still has a real password).

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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-02 Thread Han Soo Chang
I thank you all for your help.  But there seems to be a big
misunderstanding.

The issue is not how to use sudo or how to set up no-password.

If you could see my original report, it would be clear.  But it seems to
have fallen off the thread.

Here is what happened.

$sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
then I typed my password.
-
ERROR: wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
More information might be available at:
 http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer

I checked the following
$ LANG=en_US.utf8 wget -v
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
--2012-04-30http://people.debian.org/%7Ebartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc--2012-04-3014:42:43--
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
Resolving ns14... 10.1.1.12
Connecting to ns14|10.1.1.12|:8080... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1273 (1.2K) [text/plain]
fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc: Permission denied


Next, I did this

$su
Then I typed my password
# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

And it succeeded.

So, it seems that when I invoked the command under sudo,
the script invoked by the command tried to write a file to a directory, but
failed
because of denied permission.
But when I invoked it under superuser, it succeeded.

So, I wonder whether this is because
(1)  I mishandled my set up of sudo
(2) this is a subtle bug of packaging of flashplugin-nonfree,
(3) this is a feature of flashplugin-nonfree package unavoidable for some
security reason
(4) Debian culture commands that I become superuser instead of using sudo.

Cheers,
Han Soo


Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-01 Thread Han Soo Chang
Thanks for your help.

It was just that I needed to apt-get install as root, not sudo apt-get.

The following command
# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
worked just fine.

$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
failed because the invoked script probably did not have the write permission
for a certain directory.

This is a little bit confusing for a newbie like me.
But, anyway, I can now see the videos on youtube.

I appreciate the help by everyone.

Han Soo
2012/4/30, Johan Grönqvist johan.gronqv...@gmail.com:
 2012-04-30 07:46, Han Soo Chang skrev:
 If you try fetching it with wget:
 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;
 does it produce an error message?

 This is the message I get.
 I am inside a corporate LAN with a proxy server whose address is
 ns14:8080.


 Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).


 As Curt wrote, it seems that you can not write the output file.

 To verify that it is not network related:

 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;

 tries tio fetch and write to file, which does not work, as you tried
 before.

 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc

 -O - will try to fetch the file and print it to standard output, so
 that you see it on screen. I expect that to work without problems.

 Is this a special setup with special write permissions?

 My interpretation is that the installation scripts fails to write a file
 that it wants to save to disc for later use.

 Regards

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Re: Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:05:28PM +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:
 Thanks for your help.
 
 It was just that I needed to apt-get install as root, not sudo apt-get.
 
 The following command
 # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 worked just fine.
 
 $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 failed because the invoked script probably did not have the write permission
 for a certain directory.
 
 This is a little bit confusing for a newbie like me.
 But, anyway, I can now see the videos on youtube.

Just remember Debian isn't Ubuntu. When you see sudo blah blah blah
just run blah blah blah as root¹.

Ubuntu specifically sets up sudo, they don't like you being root!
whereas, in Debian, ***YOU*** would have to install sudo and configure
it to get the desired result. 

¹ su -c blah blah blah is probably better.

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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:58:35 +0900, Han wrote in message 
cadz+jbr4v0rcu8x6okhpegqlyj7+ej0qx-uxo_ftn1-h6k6...@mail.gmail.com:

 Hi,
 
 I recently installed debian squeeze, but I can't see youtube videos on
 iceweasel.
 
 $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

..I prefer aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree, it solves things
slightly differently.

..when sites whines about too old flash, I go aptitude remove \
flashplugin-nonfree aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree

..note that you'll need your deb* lines in /etc/apt/sources.list 
to end with main contrib non-free.

 Above command ends with a following error message. (My sources.list
 has non-free included)
 
 ERROR: wget failed to download

..tried aptitude install wget?

 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
 More information might be available at:
   http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
 
 I consulted the webpage, and googled, but could not get useful
 information.
 
 I appreciate any help.
 
 Thanks,
 Han Soo
 
 


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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-30 Thread Curt
On 2012-04-30, Han Soo Chang hansoo7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).

This would mean you do not have the permission to write to the directory
into which you are downloading the file.


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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-30 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2012-04-30 07:46, Han Soo Chang skrev:

If you try fetching it with wget:
wget
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;
does it produce an error message?


This is the message I get.
I am inside a corporate LAN with a proxy server whose address is ns14:8080.


Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).



As Curt wrote, it seems that you can not write the output file.

To verify that it is not network related:

wget 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc; 
tries tio fetch and write to file, which does not work, as you tried before.


wget 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc 
-O - will try to fetch the file and print it to standard output, so 
that you see it on screen. I expect that to work without problems.


Is this a special setup with special write permissions?

My interpretation is that the installation scripts fails to write a file 
that it wants to save to disc for later use.


Regards

Johan


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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:58:35 +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:

 I recently installed debian squeeze, but I can't see youtube videos on
 iceweasel.
 
 $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 
 Above command ends with a following error message. (My sources.list has
 non-free included)
 
 ERROR: wget failed to download
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
 More information might be available at:
   http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
 
 I consulted the webpage, and googled, but could not get useful
 information.
 
 I appreciate any help.

You can get the .so flash plugin directly from Adobe's site:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

You select your linux arch (32 or 64 bits) and then choose the 
*.tar.gz, extract the *.so library into the Iceweasel plugins 
directory and you're done.

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Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-29 Thread Han Soo Chang
Hi,

I recently installed debian squeeze, but I can't see youtube videos on
iceweasel.

$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Above command ends with a following error message. (My sources.list has non-free
included)

ERROR: wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
More information might be available at:
  http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer

I consulted the webpage, and googled, but could not get useful information.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks,
Han Soo


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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-29 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2012-04-30 06:58, Han Soo Chang skrev:


$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

ERROR: wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
More information might be available at:
   http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer



Works for me.

If you run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install again, does it work now?

Otherwise:

If you paste the URL: 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc 
into a web-browser, do you see the (rahter short) file [0] containing a 
hash-key?


If that worked:

If you try fetching it with wget:
wget 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;

does it produce an error message?

You can add -v to the command lines for both undate-flasplugin-nofree 
and wget to get verbose output that you can paste here, if you want to.


Regards

Johan


[0] the file is a text file, some 20 lines long, starting with 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and ends with -BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED MESSAGE-



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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-29 Thread Han Soo Chang
Thanks for your help.

 If you run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install again, does it work now?


It gives me the same error.

 Otherwise:

 If you paste the URL:
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc

 into a web-browser, do you see the (rahter short) file [0] containing a
 hash-key?

Yes, I can see the page on my browser.


 If you try fetching it with wget:
 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;
 does it produce an error message?

This is the message I get.
I am inside a corporate LAN with a proxy server whose address is ns14:8080.

$ LANG=en_US.utf8 wget -v
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
--2012-04-30 14:42:43--
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
Resolving ns14... 10.1.1.12
Connecting to ns14|10.1.1.12|:8080... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1273 (1.2K) [text/plain]
fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc: Permission denied

Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).

Is this a problem related to my proxy server?

Greetings,
Han Soo


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