Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:59:39 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message jkq08r$4vf$5...@dough.gmane.org: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:41:35 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 24 mar 12, 16:41:00, Camaleón wrote: But if you feel better having sex than gender I'm not going to object to that.

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-29 Thread Charles Kroeger
,[ man fstab ] | noauto do not mount when mount -a is given (e.g., at boot time) ` Hope this explains, Andrei ahh... man fstab -- Thanks, CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:34:52PM +, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2012 15:09:57 Ken Heard wrote:  Nouns and adjectives have gender, but people have sex. The latest strident feminist PC requires gender. (It came up recently on Debian Women.) I share your objection. But then I

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-28 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 28/03/12 04:01, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:40:02 +0200 Andrei POPESCUandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mar 12, 14:26:22, Charles Kroeger wrote: Thanks for the suggestion..however if the SD card happens to be in the camera and not in the card reader during the

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 mar 12, 22:01:22, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:40:02 +0200 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mar 12, 14:26:22, Charles Kroeger wrote: Thanks for the suggestion..however if the SD card happens to be in the camera and not in the card

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-27 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:40:02 +0200 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mar 12, 14:26:22, Charles Kroeger wrote: Thanks for the suggestion..however if the SD card happens to be in the camera and not in the card reader during the boot fstab can't find 'sde1' (because

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 mar 12, 14:26:22, Charles Kroeger wrote: Thanks for the suggestion..however if the SD card happens to be in the camera and not in the card reader during the boot fstab can't find 'sde1' (because it's not there) then I get to see the 'not found' warning. That's the reason for not

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 24 mar 12, 16:41:00, Camaleón wrote: But if you feel better having sex than gender I'm not going to object to that. Mmm... no, I'd better not say anything about this on a public mailing list :p Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-26 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:41:35 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 24 mar 12, 16:41:00, Camaleón wrote: But if you feel better having sex than gender I'm not going to object to that. Mmm... no, I'd better not say anything about this on a public mailing list :p C'mon, don't be shy. We're

Re: Logs normalization (was: Can no longer mount SDHC card)

2012-03-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:54:35 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: Well, it's far more simpler than that: I was only whining for not having the same log files, located in the same place and holding the same information between the different distributions

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-24 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón wrote: But don't worry; linear thinking is not linked to a particular gender. Don't you mean sex? Nouns and adjectives have gender, but people have sex. Ken -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:59:56 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On 03/22/12 10:47, Camaleón wrote: To be sincere, I'm still unsure about what log file holds what information. In openSUSE, the main log was /var/log/messages and you had to look there to

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:09:57 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: Camaleón wrote: But don't worry; linear thinking is not linked to a particular gender. Don't you mean sex? Nouns and adjectives have gender, but people have sex. Nope, I meant gender which also applies to human beings, AFAIK. But if

Logs normalization (was: Can no longer mount SDHC card)

2012-03-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 11:32:55 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: Take a look at /etc/rsyslog.conf Nothing of interest (for the matter) here. and man rsyslog.conf rsyslogd Still no way to know where messages are being dropped. I would like to see

Re: Logs normalization (was: Can no longer mount SDHC card)

2012-03-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: Well, it's far more simpler than that: I was only whining for not having the same log files, located in the same place and holding the same information between the different distributions :-) Ahhh... The joy of Linux! /-; Linux is all about

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-24 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 24 March 2012 15:09:57 Ken Heard wrote:  Nouns and adjectives have gender, but people have sex. The latest strident feminist PC requires gender. (It came up recently on Debian Women.) I share your objection. But then I never burnt my bra, I just got on and did a male

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-23 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón wrote: You can grab a LiveCD for a distribution of your choice (with an updated kernel) and try your embedded multimedia card reader from there. In fact, that's one of the uses for LiveCDs: testing your hardware without messing up your

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:59:56 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On 03/22/12 10:47, Camaleón wrote: To be sincere, I'm still unsure about what log file holds what information. In openSUSE, the main log was /var/log/messages and you had to look there to see the most relevant information, but here

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2012 schrieb Keith McKenzie: On 20/03/12 23:23, Charles Kroeger wrote: Before you suggest, I didn't put the mount -t vfat etc command in fstab because I don't want to see a message every time I boot the computer without the SD card in the reader saying sde1 can't be

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2012 schrieb Ken Heard: Camaléon's latest suggestions are worth trying to determine whether the cause is a software malfunction rather than a hardware failure. To do so however I would have to wait until I upgrade the laptop from Lenny to Squeeze, as he suggests I use an

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 23. März 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2012 schrieb Ken Heard: Camaléon's latest suggestions are worth trying to determine whether the cause is a software malfunction rather than a hardware failure. To do so however I would have to wait until I upgrade

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:42:06 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: Camaleón wrote: You can grab a LiveCD for a distribution of your choice (with an updated kernel) and try your embedded multimedia card reader from there. In fact, that's one of the uses for LiveCDs: testing your hardware without messing up

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:17:06 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Camaleón wrote: Wilko Fokken wrote: Camaleón wrote: Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see what's going on. Should'nt it be written: run dmesg | tail -f ? I only wanted to print the last few

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:07:08 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: (...) Camaléon's latest suggestions are worth trying to determine whether the cause is a software malfunction rather than a hardware failure. To do so however I would have to wait until I upgrade the laptop from Lenny to Squeeze, as he

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On 03/22/12 10:47, Camaleón wrote: To be sincere, I'm still unsure about what log file holds what information. In openSUSE, the main log was /var/log/messages and you had to look there to see the most relevant information, but here (Debian) seems to be /var/log/syslog. Then there are

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 20/03/12 23:23, Charles Kroeger wrote: Before you suggest, I didn't put the mount -t vfat etc command in fstab because I don't want to see a message every time I boot the computer without the SD card in the reader saying sde1 can't be found and doesn't exist. I've got a feeling if you put

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 21/03/12 03:34, Ken Heard wrote: Mar 20 17:39:11 R61 kernel: [4.756112] mmcblk0:3mmc0: Card removed during transfer! That looks bad... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 21/03/12 03:48, John Jason Jordan wrote: Let me know what kind of n-in-one card reader you find. I could use one as well. I have a (www.)Novatech(.co.uk) reader that is 'cheap' works OK, but is slow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 21/03/12 03:34, Ken Heard wrote: Mar 20 18:22:03 R61 kernel: [4.632233] mmcblk0:3mmc0: Card removed during transfer! You might want to check if the sd card is still readable; if it isn't, it was corrupted by being removed whilst the system was still writing data to it; will need to be

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:57:38PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: .. Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see what's going on. Should'nt it be written: run dmesg | tail -f ? Gruß Wilko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Wilko Fokken wrote: Camaleón wrote: Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see what's going on. Should'nt it be written: run dmesg | tail -f ? Try: tail -f /var/log/syslog Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Jochen Spieker
Wilko Fokken: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:57:38PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: .. Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see what's going on. Should'nt it be written: run dmesg | tail -f ? Neither one will

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:52:37 +0100, Wilko Fokken wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:57:38PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: .. Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see what's going on. Should'nt it be written:

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:34:31 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Jason Jordan wrote: This is beginning to sound like hardware failure. The SD card reader in my T61 failed shortly after the three year warranty ended. I think you may be right.

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith McKenzie wrote: You might want to check if the sd card is still readable; Yes it is; all the photos are still on it, and I was able to write new photos to it. Ken -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I said in my post of 2012-03-21 at 10:34 (UTP +7): I suppose my solution now is to invest in an external n-in-1 card reader with the capacity to read the high capacity SD cards and use it instead of the internal reader. I did so today. For Keith

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 March 2012 17:07:08 Ken Heard wrote: Camaléon's [snip], as he suggests I use an updated kernel. ... SHE suggests .. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:40:03 +0100 Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/03/12 23:23, Charles Kroeger wrote: Before you suggest, I didn't put the mount -t vfat etc command in fstab because I don't want to see a message every time I boot the computer without the SD card in the reader

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote: Wilko Fokken wrote: Camaleón wrote: Open a terminal, run dmesg | tail and then insert the card to see what's going on. Should'nt it be written: run dmesg | tail -f ? I only wanted to print the last few line from dmesg, nothing interactive. The issue

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:48:21 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:34:31 +0700 Ken Heard k...@heard.name dijo: If I interpreted correctly the text below the OS may detect the presence of the card but no longer will read it. I suppose my solution now is

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:40:10 -0400 Celejar cele...@gmail.com dijo: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:48:21 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: I should add that mine is a Ricoh also. Also that the Linux Thinkpad thinkwiki page and the listserve are full of problems with hardware failures

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:59:46 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:40:10 -0400 Celejar cele...@gmail.com dijo: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:48:21 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: I should add that mine is a Ricoh also. Also that the Linux

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 21 March 2012 17:07:08 Ken Heard wrote: Camaléon's [snip], as he suggests I use an updated kernel. ... SHE suggests .. Ouch! From now on, unless the sex of a poster is patently obvious from the name, I must

Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a Lenovo R61 laptop which has a built-in SD card slot. The operating system is Lenny. Ever since I bought this laptop in May 2008 I have been able to mount in it SDHC cards from my Canon 60D digital camera. The relevant line in fstab is and

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: I have a Lenovo R61 laptop which has a built-in SD card slot. The operating system is Lenny. Ever since I bought this laptop in May 2008 I have been able to mount in it SDHC cards from my Canon 60D digital camera. The relevant line in

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: I have a Lenovo R61 laptop which has a built-in SD card slot. The operating system is Lenny. Ever since I bought this laptop in May 2008 I have been able to mount in it SDHC

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:45:58 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: Camaleón wrote: If you're using a DE, I would let it to mount external devices automatically, that is, by commenting (#) the above line in /etc/fstab. Then, as soon as you attache the card it should be recognized, detected and mounted

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:45:58 +0700 Ken Heard k...@heard.name dijo: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: I have a Lenovo R61 laptop which has a built-in SD card slot. The operating system is Lenny. Ever since I

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Frank McCormick
On 20/03/12 01:01 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:45:58 +0700 Ken Heardk...@heard.name dijo: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:29:28 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: I have a Lenovo R61 laptop which has a built-in SD card slot.

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Charles Kroeger
I find where the SD card is by checking the list on: # /dev/disk/by-id without fail the card reader will be assigned a disk number like sde. If the reader is sde then the SD card stuck in the reader will be sde1 # mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/ (I made a directory here) I use the mount

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Jason Jordan wrote: This is beginning to sound like hardware failure. The SD card reader in my T61 failed shortly after the three year warranty ended. I think you may be right. Further investigation revealed the text at the end of this post

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:34:31 +0700 Ken Heard k...@heard.name dijo: If I interpreted correctly the text below the OS may detect the presence of the card but no longer will read it. I suppose my solution now is to invest in an external n-in-1 card reader with the capacity to read the high capacity