Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 20:12 -0400, Doug wrote: It occurs to me that you may be asking the wrong question. The noise from a computer comes almost entirely from fans. One fan is in the power supply, a fairly stoochy fan is on the CPU, and there may or may not be a fan at the front of the case.

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-05 Thread istimsak abdulbasir
Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-05 Thread Doug
On 06/05/2012 06:44 PM, istimsak abdulbasir wrote: Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me

Re: Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
. However, if your audio rack has a back panel you cannot use an RM case, as the hot exhaust air would get trapped inside the cabinet and overheat the PC. OTOH just small sidewalls (equivalent to a tower's base and top) are surrounded by the cabinet/rack walls. Above and below the 19 computer case

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
for 19 wide cases at the moment. Most of my music gear is 19 too. I placed the gear on shelfs, but I tend to switch to a 19 cabinet, to get rid of the wide and lengthy shelfs. A tower could be 26 high, if I would get rid of the shelfs. The only issue, a 19 or a new tower computer case + a 19

Re: Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/1/2012 11:47 AM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Hello Ralf, * From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net * Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:03:15 +0200 ... cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, ... For industrial grade equipment, look

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
. I placed the gear on shelfs, but I tend to switch to a 19 cabinet, to get rid of the wide and lengthy shelfs. A tower could be 26 high, if I would get rid of the shelfs. The only issue, a 19 or a new tower computer case + a 19 cabinet is above my financial scope. If a huge case is nearly empty

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 10:02 -0400, Christopher Judd wrote: Seriously, one could probably design a case for minimal vibration and good airflow without all of the eye candy shown here. Perhaps http://static.neatorama.com/case-mod/bender.jpg does cause less noisy vibrations and a good airflow, but

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 09:59 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Acoustic damping materials A friend successfully used damping material for one of his cases. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 13:28 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: I always just go with the cheapest case That's what I needed to do and I suspect that the case is the weak point of most home PCs. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 17:35 +, ACro wrote: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product.php Anti-vibration mounting kits for HDDs are included. I experienced the HDDs and the DVD drive causing the sidewalls to vibrate and making noise. Unfortunately space becomes an issue, when I try to

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 13:42 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: While any case can be used, there are some considerations: - cooling - larger fans are generally quieter - do you want liquid cooling? - extra fans in front for RAID array? No extra fans are needed. The PSU has got a large fan, the

Re: Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 01:12 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Keep the discussion grounded in reality folks. He's asking for information on workstation (desktop/side) PC cases. Anything in the cPCI/industrial realm will quadruple the price and noise level, and limit choice of mobos, expansion

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/1/2012 6:21 PM, Weaver wrote: In reference to vertically mounted boards, in any size case, I have yet to open a case to find cards drooping and melting all over the place and I've built a few systems. It's a safe bet then that you've never owned a high end nVidia/ATI board w/large/heavy

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Again thanks to everybody, I guess I shouldn't reply to each and every reply. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread keith
If you're still looking for a case,these people supply some, see if any of them suit you. www.novatech.com -- keith km3...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/2/2012 2:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 01:12 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Keep the discussion grounded in reality folks. He's asking for information on workstation (desktop/side) PC cases. Anything in the cPCI/industrial realm will quadruple the price and noise level,

Re: Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
be to small. Perhaps a 19 case idea isn't good due to the cooling, OTOH just small sidewalls (equivalent to a tower's base and top) are surrounded by the cabinet/rack walls. Above and below the 19 computer case I could keep many units empty, which also might be needed regarding to shielding issues, when

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
or a new tower computer case + a 19 cabinet is above my financial scope. You can build your own wooden 19-inch rack in three or four hours. Use hardwood if it is available at low cost; otherwise use plywood or pine. Not including the front and back (if any), you need six pieces of wood (three pairs

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Thank you :) I'll read the howto later. I guess I'll buy a 19 cabinet from a German music gear dealer, since a friend bought an elCheapo, but high quality rack there sometime ago. It's as stable as an expensive rack, but cost less than building one myself [1]. For example

Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net [120603 02:51]: [1] I still need to check the current prices for wood etc.. Of course, building a rack made of wood from the bulk garbage still would be less expensive. FWIW I don't need something as stable as a flight case. I still own one

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 07:53 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: On 01/06/2012 07:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_1220 http://www.google.de/search?hl=deq=WingRS +200bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbbiw=1152bih=662um=1ie=UTF-8tbm=ischsource=ogsa=Ntab=wiei=3WLIT92DNszSsgbT94TxDg Those cases seems to be consumer, gamer cases similar to the elCheapo

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Chris
The GT Battle edition in green has my vote ! Keep well, Chris - Reply message - From: Mark Panen mark.pa...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 12:53 am Subject: Computer case To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On 01/06/2012 07:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) any recommendation

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Weaver
Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/1/2012 12:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical stability

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi all, hi Patrick, On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 00:55 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: Unfortunately, the case has been discontinued When I visit people and note that they've got good cases, I usually don't have the money to order a case. As soon as I've got the money, the case I wish to order always has

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Friday 01 June 2012 1:03:15 am Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Go Linux
--- On Fri, 6/1/12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Subject: Computer case To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 12:03 AM Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Christopher Judd
On Friday 01 June 2012 06:52:21 Mark Neidorff wrote: Hello, Choosing a computer case is a design decision. First, thing, choose what is most important for you. Here are some suggestions (in no particular order): Style of case Air flow noise physical size of case color type

[OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:03:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? AFAIK, computer cases are non-OS dependant :-) Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. No prob, already tagged as such. However, experiences with cases

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/1/2012 9:02 AM, Christopher Judd wrote: Seriously, one could probably design a case for minimal vibration and good airflow without all of the eye candy shown here. Panel vibration induced by fans mounted to panels isn't the main noise problem except in the very cheapest of cases. It's

Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread peter
Hello Ralf, * From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net * Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:03:15 +0200 ... cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, ... For industrial grade equipment, look at Compact PCI.

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread shawn wilson
On Jun 1, 2012 10:02 AM, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: Or you could roll your own: www.neatorama.com/case-mod Now, that's pretty cool. However, when I buy a new computer, I always just go with the cheapest case. I mean, I've got a thermaltake case here because newegg or

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread ACro
experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical stability) Hi, I found that Lian-Li's cases are carefully built, silent, with good airflow and beautiful design (it's brushed aluminium).

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/06/12 01:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might

Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Weaver
experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical stability) Hi, I found that Lian-Li's cases are carefully built, silent, with good airflow and beautiful design (it's brushed

Computer case

2012-05-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical

Re: Computer case

2012-05-31 Thread Mark Panen
On 01/06/2012 07:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian stable ;)? Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might

Re: computer case; was Re: Accessing a TV adapter via my network

2008-02-07 Thread Barry Samuels
On 05/02/08 17:44:26, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: Barry, At Feb 5, 2008, at 2:26 AM you wrote, ... buying a case until I know that the whole setup works. So many computers are discarded these days; few people really need to buy a computer let alone a case. The problem is finding people who

computer case; was Re: Accessing a TV adapter via my network

2008-02-05 Thread PETER EASTHOPE
Barry, At Feb 5, 2008, at 2:26 AM you wrote, ... buying a case until I know that the whole setup works. So many computers are discarded these days; few people really need to buy a computer let alone a case. If friends haven't offered you several, there should be a steady supply on various