Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 02 Feb 2014 at 15:22:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: You hadn't specified from squeeze to qheezy and you were therefore implying that it was a general approach. In my own mind I thought I was responding to the previous post: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 ian 14, 15:25:18, Brian wrote: On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 20:51:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: I think we are doing our best avoid complications but the canonical place for the recommended way is the Release Notes. Nothing else. So as a baseline, process you described is fine. But

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-25 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:25:01AM +, Brian wrote: On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly documented in the Release Notes. Which is where I got what I wrote from: I bet it was only for the

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-25 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 20:51:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:25:01AM +, Brian wrote: On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly documented in the Release Notes. Which

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 ian 14, 23:47:11, Brian wrote: On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of squeeze with wheezy, and then running # apt-get update #

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly documented in the Release Notes. Which is where I got what I wrote from: If the system being upgraded provides critical services for your users or the network[2],

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of squeeze with wheezy, and then running #

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Brad Alexander
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Robin rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com wrote: Were those users using Debian stable? I use Sid so I usually dist-upgrade as long it isn't going obviously affect my system, i.e removing applications I want to keep. My process on sid is apt-get update apt-get

Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. Similarly, if I wanted to insure I had the latest versions of packages already installed (and any/all

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Shane Johnson
Bob, It was my understanding that dist-upgrade was only needed to resolve issues that couldn't be resolved by upgrade. I have moved from wheezy to jessie with a simple aptitude update and didn't need the dist-upgrade. If this is incorrect I would love to know cause I ran into some issues with my

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Robin
On 23 January 2014 20:51, Bob Bernstein poo...@ruptured-duck.com wrote: A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. Similarly, if I wanted to insure

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Klaus
On 23/01/14 20:51, Bob Bernstein wrote: A thread about dist-upgrade has me confused. In my experience I have only ever run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when I wanted to move from one release to the next, say, from squeeze to wheezy. Similarly, if I wanted to insure I had the latest versions of

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Bob Bernstein: But the thread currently underway about dist-upgrade suggests that users are running it rather routinely, and not at all necessarily to move from one release to the next. Can someone please point out what I am missing? What you are doing is generally the safe way. apt-get

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
Thanks to all who have chimed in! On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Klaus wrote: When for instance a new version of an already installed package depends on a previously not installed library, then apt-get update cannot update this pkg. You need dist-upgrade for that job. Aha. Thx for the RTFM; I had

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of squeeze with wheezy, and then running # apt-get update # apt-get dist-upgrade That as far as memory

Re: Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-23 Thread Clive Standbridge
At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of squeeze with wheezy, and then running # apt-get update # apt-get dist-upgrade It's not always that straightforward for upgrades between major releases. You might