solved, followup: deb for audacity 2.0 for Debian 5.0? (was Re: Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?)
(Top posting this general reply which is pretty much a thank you--a few responses to specific suggestions are interspersed below.) Thanks to all who replied! I've now found audacity and figured out how to use it (some problems learning because the manual is for version 2.0, and the latest version I could find for Debian 5.0 is version 1.3.5 beta--some differences in terminology and screen layout). For now, audacity 1.3.5 is doing the job. For some future things I want to do (capturing some tracks from vinyl), audacity 2.0 has some additional features which may be useful (e.g., normalizing tracks individually instead of in common, the latter potentially inadvertently changing the balance between tracks). If anybody knows of a place to apt-get audacity 2.0 for Debian 5.0, that would be a help! On Monday 25 June 2012 08:11:10 am Darac Marjal wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 01:28:37PM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote: I want to capture some audio from a web page. I think I would start by looking at how the web page is playing the audio. If it's a simple background audio file (e.g. an embed or object tag), then you should be able to simply fetch the file yourself. If, however, the audio is being streamed by a flash/java/silverlight/etc player, then you will need to look deeper. AFAICT, the audio was being streamed. (The particular web pages were available only last week and are now gone.) Even answering (or telling me how to answer) some simple questions, like: * is my system using aRts or ALSA? Conceivably, it could be using both. ALSA is the set of sound drivers that the kernel uses to talk to your sound card; aRts, esd and nowadays pulse are all audio managers that sit on top of OSS or ALSA. You can probably see what sound systems you have by playing a wav file through play (OSS), aplay (ALSA), artsplay (aRts), esdplay (ESounD) and paplay (Pulse). If any commands don't exist, or don't play the wav, then you're not using that system. ... I would suggest using OSS (play, record etc). IIRC, Debian 5.0 would have been around the time that ALSA was supplanting OSS, so either you're still using OSS or you'll have ALSA with OSS compatibility enabled. Per your suggestion, I tried those, and only play and aplay work, so I'm guessing that you're right, I have ALSA with OSS compatibility enabled. Thanks again to all! Randy Kramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206261008.00305.rhkra...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 01:28:37PM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote: I'm (still) using Debian 5.0 (Lenny, iirc). I want to capture some audio from a web page. Is there an application typically installed in Debian 5.0 that will help me do that. (krec does not seem to work--maybe Debian is using ALSA rather than aRts?) OTOH, I started to try to use ffmpeg, but the instructions I was following say I need a version of ffmpeg compiled with ALSA support, and the version of ffmpeg that is installed does not have ALSA support. Can somebody point me in the right (simple) direction? I think I would start by looking at how the web page is playing the audio. If it's a simple background audio file (e.g. an embed or object tag), then you should be able to simply fetch the file yourself. If, however, the audio is being streamed by a flash/java/silverlight/etc player, then you will need to look deeper. Even answering (or telling me how to answer) some simple questions, like: * is my system using aRts or ALSA? Conceivably, it could be using both. ALSA is the set of sound drivers that the kernel uses to talk to your sound card; aRts, esd and nowadays pulse are all audio managers that sit on top of OSS or ALSA. You can probably see what sound systems you have by playing a wav file through play (OSS), aplay (ALSA), artsplay (aRts), esdplay (ESounD) and paplay (Pulse). If any commands don't exist, or don't play the wav, then you're not using that system. * is my system using gstreamer or pulseaudio? * is there a precompiled (binary) version of ffmpeg for Debian 5.0 with ALSA support compiled in? I would suggest using OSS (play, record etc). IIRC, Debian 5.0 would have been around the time that ALSA was supplanting OSS, so either you're still using OSS or you'll have ALSA with OSS compatibility enabled. * ??? Thanks! Randy Kramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206241328.37979.rhkra...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120625121110.ga3...@darac.org.uk
Re: Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?
On 25/06/12 08:11 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 01:28:37PM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote: I'm (still) using Debian 5.0 (Lenny, iirc). I want to capture some audio from a web page. Is there an application typically installed in Debian 5.0 that will help me do that. (krec does not seem to work--maybe Debian is using ALSA rather than aRts?) OTOH, I started to try to use ffmpeg, but the instructions I was following say I need a version of ffmpeg compiled with ALSA support, and the version of ffmpeg that is installed does not have ALSA support. Can somebody point me in the right (simple) direction? I think I would start by looking at how the web page is playing the audio. If it's a simple background audio file (e.g. anembed or object tag), then you should be able to simply fetch the file yourself. If, however, the audio is being streamed by a flash/java/silverlight/etc player, then you will need to look deeper. Even answering (or telling me how to answer) some simple questions, like: * is my system using aRts or ALSA? Conceivably, it could be using both. ALSA is the set of sound drivers that the kernel uses to talk to your sound card; aRts, esd and nowadays pulse are all audio managers that sit on top of OSS or ALSA. You can probably see what sound systems you have by playing a wav file through play (OSS), aplay (ALSA), artsplay (aRts), esdplay (ESounD) and paplay (Pulse). If any commands don't exist, or don't play the wav, then you're not using that system. * is my system using gstreamer or pulseaudio? * is there a precompiled (binary) version of ffmpeg for Debian 5.0 with ALSA support compiled in? I would suggest using OSS (play, record etc). IIRC, Debian 5.0 would have been around the time that ALSA was supplanting OSS, so either you're still using OSS or you'll have ALSA with OSS compatibility enabled. * ??? Thanks! Randy Kramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206241328.37979.rhkra...@gmail.com Back to basics. The web page is viewed through a browser. FlashGot is a Firefox/Iceweasel plug-in that captures multimedia content from web pages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe85ea5.6030...@rogers.com
Re: Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?
I don't use jack for stuff like this, but I suspect it will do this job too: http://jackaudio.org/routing_flash http://jackaudio.org/gstreamer_via_jack http://jackaudio.org/routing_phonon http://jackaudio.org/faq There indeed are several ways to get sound from flash, but I like to introduce jack ;p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340631614.1349.31.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 13:11 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: You can probably see what sound systems you have by playing a wav file through play (OSS), aplay (ALSA), artsplay (aRts), esdplay (ESounD) and paplay (Pulse). If any commands don't exist, or don't play the wav, then you're not using that system. Thank you that you didn't mention jackd ;), 'cause jackd is professional and easy to use, while all the other sound servers are consumer crap and you need to read tons of manuals to use them ... many people experience stuff like pulseaudio as not working with their sound devices, so they drop Linux and use Windoof instead. I'm not talking about the pro-audio Linux users, our cards don't work with pulseaudio, but we know what to do. Pulseaudio is one of Linux serious issues, that cause that folks who are Windoof users, testing Linux, will drop Linux forever and instead they'll follow Windoof. I would suggest using OSS (play, record etc). IIRC, Debian 5.0 would have been around the time that ALSA was supplanting OSS, so either you're still using OSS or you'll have ALSA with OSS compatibility enabled. For Lenny OSS already should be obsolete. The backend always should be ALSA and not OSS. And please use ALSA directly or jackd only. Btw. Jack2 seems to be more reliable on some machines. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340632681.1349.40.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 15:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: For Lenny OSS already should be obsolete. The backend always should be ALSA and not OSS. And please use ALSA directly or jackd only. Btw. Jack2 seems to be more reliable on some machines. PS: I don't have Lenny installed anymore and the Internet doesn't inform about the state regarding to jackd packages for Lenny. It might be that by packages only jack1 or only jack2 is available and there might be no way to choose which jack should be used, when installing packages from regular repositories. I can't remember. However, that time 64 Studio was based on Lenny and assumed the 64 Studio repositories still should exist, jack2 should be available as package and perhaps all that link flash etc. to jackd-stuff too. Note that 64 Studio is a serious repository, IIRC at least Robin from the crew does work for Debian Multimedia today. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340634260.1349.50.camel@localhost.localdomain
Debian 5.0: Capturing audio from a web page?
I'm (still) using Debian 5.0 (Lenny, iirc). I want to capture some audio from a web page. Is there an application typically installed in Debian 5.0 that will help me do that. (krec does not seem to work--maybe Debian is using ALSA rather than aRts?) OTOH, I started to try to use ffmpeg, but the instructions I was following say I need a version of ffmpeg compiled with ALSA support, and the version of ffmpeg that is installed does not have ALSA support. Can somebody point me in the right (simple) direction? Even answering (or telling me how to answer) some simple questions, like: * is my system using aRts or ALSA? * is my system using gstreamer or pulseaudio? * is there a precompiled (binary) version of ffmpeg for Debian 5.0 with ALSA support compiled in? * ??? Thanks! Randy Kramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206241328.37979.rhkra...@gmail.com
